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Author Photo by: TomBaguio21
Sep 06 2022, 5:00am CST ~ 3 weeks, 3 days ago. 
I haven't posted here in a long time, but I need to talk to more folks who are trying to learn Tagalog. I have been in the Philippines about 2 1/2 months now, living in Baguio, and the problem I am facing is in practicing. Everyone understands English (though not everyone speaks equally well!). When I try to use Tagalog, many will respond in English. I was pleased, however, when I took a noontime walk and greeting people, "Magandang tanghali," I received a couple smiles and a reply, "Tanghali!" I'm just not greatly challenged to use the language when everyone knows English.
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Sep 06 2022, 2:08pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 3 days ago. 
Welcome to the Philippines, that's just how it goes. All that time spent yet unneeded.
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Sep 06 2022, 2:12pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 3 days ago. 
Tagalog isn't even really the language of Baguio. They natively speak Ilocano there. Filipino was just something forced on them during school that they probably don't speak that well but consume media in.
 
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Author Photo Juantutri Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
Sep 07 2022, 12:20am CST ~ 3 weeks, 2 days ago. 
@TomBaguio21
 
If you’d start a conversation with Filipinos in Tagalog, you would most likely see an expression of surprise or disbelief on their faces. That’s because most Filipinos would normally assume that a foreigner does not know how to speak Tagalog. For that reason, they would not talk to you in Tagalog unless you’d ask them to. Also, even if they have difficulty expressing themselves in English, they would bear that inconvenience rather than impose it on you.
 
As AMBoy mentioned, Ilocano is the main language in Baguio; although many of them are able to speak and understand Tagalog. Just to be sure, you might have to ask them "marunong ka bang mag-Tagalog?" first.
 
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Author Photo WileyCoyote
Sep 08 2022, 9:35am CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
Is there a place here to listen to Tagalog and speak and have your Tagalog speech rated, graded?
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
Sep 08 2022, 2:55pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
While Tagalog is spoken in Baguio, the city's lingua franca is Ilocano.
 
You may get more help and enthusiasm and maybe discount price, hehe) if you'll learn Ilocano.
 
Not everyone in Baguio and from Baguio are proficient in Tagalog either. Some Ilocano speakers (esp native Igorots) are more able to express themselves in English than Tagalog.
 
Just go the the market, jeepney stops and you'll notice that most people speak with each other in Ilocano.
 
I remember having a conversation with a "sekyu". His spoken Tagalog was poor, and my spoken Ilocano was poor. He spoke to me in Ilocano, I responded to him in Tagalog. We still understood each other though.
 
You'll just have to adjust your expectations and "strategy"
 
I have to add, the Tagalog spoken in Baguio is slightly different than standard Filipino given that locals use a lot of Ilocano words and sometimes Ibaloy and Kankanaey words like ngay, ngarod, adi, piman, ta, kwa, gamin, etc..in their Tagalog
 
So yeah, temper your expectations
 
Next time, say "Naimbag nga aldaw" instead of Magandang Tanghali. People will be more thrilled. No one even uses magandang tanghali in Baguio. It's always the accented "gudapternun mamsir" or naimbag nga aldaw (formal occasions, usually)
 
If you want to truly practice Tagalog, moving to Batangas/Cavite/Laguna/Rizal might be more ideal since these are the "core Tagalog territories".
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
Sep 08 2022, 3:08pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
That’s because most Filipinos would normally assume that a foreigner does not know how to speak Tagalog. For that reason, they would not talk to you in Tagalog unless you’d ask them to. Also, even if they have difficulty expressing themselves in English, they would bear that inconvenience rather than impose it on you. .
 
@Juantutri
 
I think this is largely because foreigners learning Tagalog is a new phenomenon. For a long time, it's always that foreigners expect Filipinos to speak to them in English.
 
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