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Question: What is there an apostrophe in "kaya't"?

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Apr 13 2021, 11:11am CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
Question: What is there an apostrophe in "kaya't"?
It doesn't make sense to me that it is "kaya + at" because when expanded, it doesn't feel right in a sentence. However, when taking it as just "kaya", it does make sense.
The same goes for the conjunctions "datapuwa't", "bagama't", and even "sapagka't".
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Apr 13 2021, 12:42pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
I don't think datapwat, bagamat and sapagkat are contractions like kaya't.
 
Not all -at are contractions like alamat, salamat, atat...
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
Apr 13 2021, 8:36pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
Could you give us the sentence?
 
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Author Photo quarter
Apr 15 2021, 8:16am CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
@PinoyTaj
Here are some with just "kaya't":
1) Sa masamang kapalaran ang kabayo niya’y namatay, kaya’t naglakad na lamang siya.
2) Iisa lang ang wika noong unang panahon kaya’t walang suliranin sa pakikipagtalastasan ang tao.
3) Nauna ang habag ko kaya’t sinabi kong ako na ang bahala.
 
There's also some with "kung kaya't" pala:
1) Pangunahing pangangailangan din ng tao ang wika kung kaya’t naimbento ito ng tao.
2) Nakikipagsalaparan ang tao kung kaya’t nabuo ang wika
 
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Author Photo quarter
Apr 15 2021, 8:21am CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
@Bituingmaykinang Then how come when used formally, there is an apostrophe? Even the official examples here on Tagalog.com use apostrophes.
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
Apr 15 2021, 3:54pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
That's just the KWF rules and not all KWF rules make sense like how they think loan words make "Filipino" a different language from Tagalog.
 
But it boils down to this, are datapwa, bagama words on their own to warrant the use of 't?
 
Kaya + at actually makes sense grammatically. Most people are just not used to it because kaya't is used almost always.
 
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Apr 15 2021, 4:01pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
@quarter Sapagka’t = Sapagka+at
Kaya’t = Kaya + at
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
Apr 15 2021, 4:07pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
Question: What is there an apostrophe in "kaya't"? It doesn't make sense to me that it is "kaya + at" because when expanded, it doesn't feel right in a sentence. However, when taking it as just "kaya", it does make sense. The same goes for the conjunctions "datapuwa't", "bagama't", and even "sapagka't".
 
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@quarter Yes , the ones you mentioned here are “word”+ at
 
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Author Photo akosikoneho Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Apr 15 2021, 5:43pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
@PinoyTaj is right here. The at is obligatory in these cases. "At" functions to connect two clauses, and as it so happens "at" tends to get modified by other words it fuses like this. Words like "ngunit, bagamat, kayat, bawat" are not readily seen as word + "at". This is a case of rebracketing. Natives tend not to see these as word + "at" and thinking of them that way may come across as pedantic. A lot of opaque changes have happened in Tagalog. Very few speakers think of counting in terms of "pu". Isa na pu -> Isang pu -> sampu. So on and so forth.
 
I agree with @Bituingmaykinang that "Kaya + at actually makes sense grammatically. Most people are just not used to it because kaya't is used almost always." In a lot of cases if you drop the word the "at" is attached to, it still ends up being a valid sentence.
 
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Author Photo quarter
Apr 15 2021, 8:45pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
Ohh I think I'm getting it now. Salamat talaga guys for your answers!
 
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Author Photo quarter
Apr 15 2021, 8:47pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
Since you had a very insightful answer @akosikoneho, I was wondering if you could answer this too. Is "kaya + at" like saying "and so"? I think that's where the confusion came. I was thinking of it as "so and" - something you don't hear in English.
 
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Author Photo quarter
Apr 15 2021, 8:59pm CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
Also, what's the purpose of kung in "kung kaya't"?
 
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Author Photo Edgarebro Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
Apr 17 2021, 11:34am CST ~ 2 years, 12 mos ago. 
Kaya't is one qord
But this is probably 2 words kaya + t = kaya't
Here is another sa
Pke
Batya at palupalo = 3 words
You can shorten this.by combininh batya at paloo will become batya't palopalo
 
Here is anothet sam@PinoyTaj
 
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Author Photo quarter
Apr 27 2021, 12:54am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
How are kaya, kaya't, and kung kaya't used differently then? (Also what's the purpose of kung in "kung kaya't?)
 
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