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Question: What is the meaning of 'di' in 'Di umano'?

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May 17 2021, 11:55am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Question: What is the meaning of 'di' in 'Di umano'?
The Word of the Day entry for umano ('apparently') provided an example sentence:
"Di umano, nagpunta ang anak sa kanyang ina na nasa ospital."
"Apparently, the son went to his mother who was in the hospital."
What is 'Di' adding to the meaning? None of the definitions for 'di', including 'not', seem to apply. Is this an example of the initial adverb 'di' vs the negator 'di'?
A. From S&O's TRG section 6.12 Initial adverbs, class (4) : "Tagalog has a number of adverbs that always occur in sentence-initial or clause-initial position. (4) Initial adverbs that are immediately followed by the rest of the sentence include: ... di ('then') ... . The adverb di (which is a different word from the negator di) ...
TRG example: "Di gagawin ko agad. 'Then I'll do it right away.' "
B. From TRG section 1.27 IV.2 : " responses in statement or command form that are assumed to express something obvious or self-evident. Often such responses are preceded by di ' why . . . (of course)' ". "for follow-up statements expressing the obvious and for mild admonitions" TRG example: "(Di) si Ben. '(Why,) Ben (of course)' "
Any help is appreciated.
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Author Photo quarter
May 17 2021, 12:01pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
forum.wordreference. com/threads/umano.22 71739/
u/niernier formed the distinction between "'di umano" and "umano". But what they said doesn't make sense with the sentence you provided, so idk.
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
May 17 2021, 12:06pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Di umano / umano are just formal versions Daw/raw , that is the best way to explain it(in my opinion).
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
May 17 2021, 12:09pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Di umano / umano are just formal versions Daw/raw , that is the best way to explain it(in my opinion).
 
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@PinoyTaj Just checked the dictionary lol, there you go.
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 17 2021, 12:14pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Haha, that's interesting, I knew both words, daw from real life and umano from the news but I never realized they really mean the same thing.
 
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Author Photo repolyo Badge: Supporter
May 17 2021, 12:49pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Haha, the responders to umano on that forum were all over the place... I also just checked the older "A Grammar of the Tagalog Language" and it includes 'di umano' meaning 'they say, it is said', interestingly under idioms that verbalize ano e.g., umano. The statement in the forum that said 'di' is an older form of 'sa' is curious, too. Thanks.
 
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Author Photo quarter
Oct 15 2021, 2:44am CST ~ 2 years, 6 mos ago. 
I know this thread is old, but I was just thinking that the difference between 'umano' and 'di umano' could just be like the difference between the English words 'regardless' and 'irregardless'. They mean virtually the same thing even though it sounds like they should be opposites.
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
Oct 15 2021, 3:11am CST ~ 2 years, 6 mos ago. 
I know this thread is old, but I was just thinking that the difference between 'umano' and 'di umano' could just be like the difference between the English words 'regardless' and 'irregardless'. They mean virtually the same thing even though it sounds like they should be opposites.
 
@quarter
 
Good Example.
 
Haha , Di Umano/Umano doesn’t change the meaning and is the same as Umano. It means Daw/raw or Allegedly, said , reported , they say. in English
 
There are a few older Tagalog words like this . The Di just frozen with the word.
 
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Author Photo preciouspearl Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
Oct 15 2021, 5:42am CST ~ 2 years, 6 mos ago. 
@repolyo the meaning of di umano is
 
thats happening
 
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Author Photo sabertooth
Oct 15 2021, 9:25am CST ~ 2 years, 5 mos ago. 
allegedly
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
Oct 15 2021, 10:40am CST ~ 2 years, 5 mos ago. 
repolyo the meaning of di umano is thats happening
 
@preciouspearl
 
How did you come up with this translation?
 
It’s definitely incorrect. Could you explain your thinking.
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
Oct 15 2021, 2:20pm CST ~ 2 years, 5 mos ago. 
'Di is short for hindi
 
Di umano is not apparently. It is like raw/daw to indicate that the information is second hand/chismis
 
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Author Photo SiAko Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
Oct 16 2021, 3:50pm CST ~ 2 years, 5 mos ago. 
@ repolyo, the 'di meaning then and why... of course is actually a short form of eh di, which is another fixed expression that should be taken as a unit. For example, 1) kung ayaw mo, (eh) di wag.( If you don't like (it), then don't; 2) Sino'ng gagawa nito? Sino pa? (eh) di si Ben! ( Who's going to do this? Who else? (It's) Ben, of course!)
Now, with regard to UMANO, it is generally used a) to fill in for a verb forgotten when speaking, similar to "you know" in English, for example: Hindi siya makatulog kasi masyado siyang umano ng kape kanina. ( He couldn't sleep because he you know too much coffee earlier.); b) to mean allegedly/ many are saying = (di) umano, for example: Batiin natin si Efren. Siya ang (di) umanong nanalo sa Bilyard Open 9 Ball kahapon. ( Let's congratulate Efren. He is the one who allegedly won the Billard Open 9 Ball yesterday.) c) to mean allegedly/ for no apparent reason when di umano is in the beginning of the sentence & di cannot be omitted, for example: Nagulat ang lahat. Bigla na lang, di umanong nagsisisigaw ang bata sa labas. ( Everybody were startled. Suddenly, for no apparent reason, the child just kept on screaming outside.)
 
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