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Author Photo by: Mimi
May 16 2021, 7:11am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Question: how do pilipinos react if a foreigner wants to learn about their culture and be part of it? Do they see it as cringy, weird or are they happy about it?
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
May 16 2021, 11:00am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Depends how the foreigner integrates. If it's genuine or not. Also depends on the generation - "second generation foreigners"(since the PH does not follow jus soli amd naturalization is very expensive) are treated like natives because they act like natives.
 
Unfortunately, some try to learn Tagalog not because they want to integrate but because they are suspicious of Filipinos (they don't want not understanding what people are saying, lol). Some also do it for the vlog money. Filipinos will click any video that will flatter us (Filipinos)
 
But if you are down to earth and not mean to people, people will appreciate you.
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 16 2021, 12:02pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
@Mimi
 
Filipinos are generally almost too excited to see it to an extent, but many do get over it quickly and are perhaps a little suspicious especially if you are a little too in to it. In dating, some women begin to wonder why you are trying so hard (if learning) or why you already know so much (WHO taught you??),
 
But, there is another type of Filipino who just doesn't respect a foreigner learning it at all, they will always respond in English, and will basically treat the attempts with disgust. It feels to me like they are saying why on earth would you be wasting your time on this. This can be disheartening lol.
 
However, it's the rest of us foreigners who cringe watching other foreigners generally just try too hard to pinoy bait for some type of gain money or otherwise.
 
If you are going to live in the Philippines, learning Filipino will probably be rewarding and worth it. If you are just trying to show interest in a man or woman I'd suggest there are better ways to gain respect and favor. Learning Filipino/Tagalog is a huge investment of time and effort, most learners don't realize this, if they did they never would have started (and most fail anyway).
 
Probably more than you were asking, but perhaps helpful for others too.
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
May 16 2021, 1:20pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
^^ There's also a subset of foreigners who learn Tagalog to feel superior towards other foreigners, and they will think they're in an advanced level when they're closer to beginner level (they're just good at memorizing phrases) and then there's another subset that will have disdain towards colloquial Tagalog because they find it hard to adjust to colloquial speak and then just blame the natives for not speaking "proper Tagalog" (text book,.very formal and literary Tagalog ala "o ilaw, sa gabing madilim")
 
Then there's the kind of foreigner (real story, from the Learn Tagalog group in FB) who thinks that Filipinized loanwords are "wrong spelling", yet boondocks get all the excuses for being wrong spelling, wrong pronunciation and wrong meaning. Lol
 
The bigger issue would more likely be attitudes towards locals than the ability to speak Tagalog.
 
That said, I think the benchmark for foreigners learning Tagalog will be Rafe Bartholomew and the two Mormons who used to live in Isabela. The Mormons became famous for the "taxi video". This was way back then Youtube was not yet monetized.
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 16 2021, 6:44pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
@Bituingmaykinang LOL this reminds me of some guy on reddit who has been studying 3 hours a day for 15 years and thinks hes a native speaker now.
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
May 17 2021, 11:48am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
This thread makes me want to to quit.😂
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
May 17 2021, 11:53am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Bituingmaykinang LOL this reminds me of some guy on reddit who has been studying 3 hours a day for 15 years and thinks hes a native speaker now.
 
@AMBoy was this the same dude who said to "not trust native speakers" and then eventually insisted that he is "near native"? But then, when you clicked his audio, he sounded so much like a beginner. As in beginner beginner who was reading a Tagalog script.
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
May 17 2021, 11:57am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
@Bituingmaykinang Link or it didn’t happen.
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 17 2021, 12:10pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
AMBoy was this the same dude who said to "not trust native speakers" and then eventually insisted that he is "near native"? But then, when you clicked his audio, he sounded so much like a beginner. As in beginner beginner who was reading a Tagalog script.
 
@Bituingmaykinang
 
I think so, it was insanity. I guess some natives were really blowing smoke. LMAO
 
Bituingmaykinang Link or it didn’t happen.
 
@PinoyTaj
 
It's very real, don't have time to scour through reddit for it tho, hopefully Bituingmaykinang can find it.
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
May 17 2021, 3:16pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
I wish I could find that thread again (I'm lazy) as well as the Facebook post, but I'm lazy @PinoyTaj, feel free to dig in the Tagalog subreddit
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 17 2021, 7:06pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Bituingmaykinang Link or it didn’t happen.
 
@PinoyTaj
I wish I could find that thread again (I'm lazy) as well as the Facebook post, but I'm lazy PinoyTaj, feel free to dig in the Tagalog subreddit
 
@Bituingmaykinang

Ok I wasted a few minutes, the key to finding it was "near native" lmao.
 
www.reddit.com/r/Tag alog/comments/gksvvz /hows_my_tagalog_100 _honest_feedbac
 
@PinoyTaj you are welcome
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
May 17 2021, 10:58pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
^^ You really did some "mining". For someone who has been "learning" Tagalog for 15 years, his Tagalog is pretty bad. Lol
 
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May 17 2021, 11:03pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
@AMBoy Bruh , I watched his YouTube Channel before😂. I thought he had been speaking for a few months. Ya hes like High A1 low A2. Ya there is no way I believe he’s been learning for 15 years BS. I’m better than him now and I’ve been studying for 1 year and 3 months 😂.
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
May 17 2021, 11:13pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 18 2021, 2:34pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Man in 15 years, call me crazy but I really do kinda think I'll be seen as native by most non language geek Filipinos. That's a really long time. In 15 years I will have been living in the Philippines for like 24 years (but I just really started Tagalog last year). And I hope I sound nothing like that and hopefully a lot more humble LOL. I think it could be reached in 5 years with some hard work. I've been slacking lately tho, just coasting but I feel I'm just learning by being right now.
 
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Author Photo jkos Badge: AdminBadge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 18 2021, 3:06pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
@AMBoy I've done a lot of coasting over the years... ; ) Consistency is key though, I think...by at least maintaining your skills by doing a little here and there, then you'll be prepared when you're ready to go full blast.
 
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