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May 16 2021, 2:57pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Question: Formal rules for commas with conjunctions/clauses like in English?
Like, comma or no comma for the following sentences?:
 
"Kaso, may pasok ako."
"Sumubok siya, at nagawa niya."
"Ayaw kong aminin ito, pero nabigo ako."
"Mananatili ka ba sa trabahong iyon, o aalis ka na?"
"Sundan ang puso mo, kasi hindi ito nagsisinungaling"
"Kahit hindi ako uminom ng gamot, gumagaling ako"
"Dahil nagsisisi ka, patatawarin kita."
 
Seen it both ways. Been searching tho for rules, but seems there ain't any.
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Author Photo repolyo Badge: Supporter
May 16 2021, 9:40pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Hopefully someone else can provide more... It seems that the use of the comma is tied to speech patterns. A Tagalog Reference Grammar addresses many cases for a pause for which it states that a pause is represented in conventional writing by a comma. A search for "comma" only yields a couple of occurrences while a search for "pause" or "intonation phrase" results in a longer list.
In section 1.23 Intonation: introduction - "Every intonation phrase is bounded by pauses. Pauses occur quite consistently at the end of major grammatical units: e.g., clauses of certain types, and sentences. (The writing system of Tagalog, like that of English, reflects the position of such pauses in the placement of punctuation marks like commas, semicolons, colons, periods, question marks, exclamation points, etc.) Pauses of this kind may be called OBLIGATORY PAUSES. Apart from obligatory pauses, utterances may include OPTIONAL PAUSES at the boundaries of certain lesser grammatical units: e.g., the boundary between predicate and topic in basic sentences (sec ยง2.2)." (TRG mentions some generalizations about optional pauses which do not appear to involve a comma.) [bolding is mine]
An example rule found in the TRG, states "If the adverbial clause precedes the main clause, it normally constitutes a separate intonation phrase, and is followed by a pause (represented in conventional writing by a comma)". It also covers direct-address phrases which involve use of comma(s).
You may get more out of reviewing the TRG itself but maybe there is a more concise list that someone can provide.
One of my favorite riddles : what is the difference between a cat and a comma? A cat has claws at the end of its paws; a comma is a pause at the end of a clause.
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
May 17 2021, 11:44am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Sa katunayan,
Siyanga pala,
Sa palagay ko,
Akala ko,
Sa totoo lang,
 
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Author Photo quarter
May 17 2021, 11:58am CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
@PinoyTaj How about "Sa tingin ko"? You normally don't see that with a comma.
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: Supporter
May 17 2021, 12:04pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
@quarter
PinoyTaj How about "Sa tingin ko"? You normally don't see that with a comma.
 
I was able to find many instances in the TDC corpuse tool with a comma being used with it. (disclaimer: there were also many not using a comma).
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 17 2021, 12:18pm CST ~ 2 years, 11 mos ago. 
Isnt the the , or pause, in Sa tingin ko, etc, actually in place of what would normally be "ay"
 
Sa tingin ko, aalis na ako. = Sa tingin ko ay aalis na ako.
 
Not sure, but I thought this is what I learned on Discord.
 
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