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Author Photo by: Diegocorry Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 7:16am CST ~ 1 mo., 5 days ago. 
Question: Syntax question:
I read the following sentence in a story: "Hindi ko siya lola." I presume that it means, "She is not my grandmother," but the word order seems strange. I would think it would be, "Hindi siya lola ko," or "Hindi lola ko siya."
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 9:12am CST ~ 1 mo., 5 days ago. 
Seems standard.Hindi ko siya lola is correct.
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 9:19am CST ~ 1 mo., 5 days ago. 
@Diegocorry
 
edit: not sure of my translation there
 
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Author Photo Diegocorry Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 10:50am CST ~ 1 mo., 5 days ago. 
@PinoyTaj, @AMBoy Thanks for your responses. "I am not his/her grandmother," doesn't seem to make sense in the context. Here is more; the speaker is a young boy: "Hindi ko siya lola, at hindi siya lola ng mga kaibigan ko. Pero dahil matanda na siya at puti ang buhok, 'lola' siya ng lahat ng bata sa aming kalye."
"I am not his/her grandmother," would mean a little boy is saying he is not an old woman's grandmother. I think I'm missing something. Any further thoughts?
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 10:57am CST ~ 1 mo., 5 days ago. 
PinoyTaj, AMBoy Thanks for your responses. "I am not his/her grandmother," doesn't seem to make sense in the context. Here is more; the speaker is a young boy: "Hindi ko siya lola, at hindi siya lola ng mga kaibigan ko. Pero dahil matanda na siya at puti ang buhok, 'lola' siya ng lahat ng bata sa aming kalye." "I am not his/her grandmother," would mean a little boy is saying he is not an old woman's grandmother. I think I'm missing something. Any further thoughts?
 
@Diegocorry
 
Where did you get this from?
 
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Author Photo Diegocorry Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 11:00am CST ~ 1 mo., 5 days ago. 
@PinoyTaj It’s a story from Rosetta Stone.
 
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Author Photo PinoyTaj Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 11:01am CST ~ 1 mo., 5 days ago. 
PinoyTaj It’s a story from Rosetta Stone.
 
@Diegocorry
 
Explains everything lol
 
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Author Photo Diegocorry Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 11:05am CST ~ 1 mo., 5 days ago. 
@PinoyTaj Yeah. I went through the RS course a few years ago, and was underwhelmed to say the least!
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Sep 20 2021, 3:02pm CST ~ 1 mo., 4 days ago. 
I think the text is whacky, I think it's missing some angs:
 
"Hindi siya ang lola ko, at hindi siya ang lola ng mga kaibigan ko. Pero dahil matanda na siya at puti ang buhok niya, 'lola' siya ang lahat ng bata sa aming kalye."
 
Even after , feels weird.
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
Sep 20 2021, 5:38pm CST ~ 1 mo., 4 days ago. 
Hindi ko siya lola. -> she is not my grandmother
 
Hindi siya ANG/YUNG lola ko -> She is not my grandmother
 
Hindi lola ko siya. -> No, she is my grandmother
 
To say this: . "I am not his/her grandmother,"
 
Hindi ako ang lola niya
 
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Author Photo landaspantas
Sep 20 2021, 8:16pm CST ~ 1 mo., 4 days ago. 
Syntax correct.
 
"Hindi ko siya lola" is literally "she is not a grandmother(/grand aunt) of mine." but is usually meant and understood as "she is not my grandmother."
 
"at hindi siya lola ng mga kaibigan ko."
> "and she is not a grandmother(/grand aunt) of my friends'."
 
"Pero dahil matanda na siya at puti ang buhok, 'lola' siya ng lahat ng bata sa aming kalye."
> "But because she is old and her hair is gray, she is a "grandma" for all the children in our street."
 
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Author Photo landaspantas
Sep 20 2021, 8:47pm CST ~ 1 mo., 4 days ago. 
"Hindi siya lola ko."
Passable as an IM or chat, or informal talk. Do not speak or write this way unless you have reached advanced level Tagalog.
 
"Hindi lola ko siya." Ungrammatical.
 
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