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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 22 2020, 5:43am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@NikNak Salamat.
The internet phrases what you say this way: " *ng* connects words ". From my fragmentary contacts with Indonesian I guess it is like the Indonesian *yang* .
If I am not mistaken there is no indefinite article "a" like in English "a man" (?) Perhaps *isang* replaces it (?)
For *tao* I found "people". Is it both singular and plural?
How does Tagalog make the plural? Bahasa Indonesia repeats the word, at least for the nouns: anak (child), anak-anak (children). Reminds me of a beautiful song:
youtu.be/ibmh64itn1M ☺️.
 
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Author Photo NikNak
Sep 22 2020, 6:30am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@Sometimes
 
Yes isang can be used to avoid ambiguity and mean an indefinite article. I read this again 2 days ago. Am sure of this. Tagalog is deceptive. It is so different from European languages ... it takes getting used to the wierd back to front VSO system and the huge use of passive voice.
 
To make plural in Tagalog use "mga"
 
Ang manok = chicken.
Ang mga manok = some chickens or chickens.
 
However sometimes they put ang and sometimes "-ng" before the pluraliser "mga".
 
I have the book Essential Tagalog Grammar by Fiona de Vos. Really useful.
 
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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 22 2020, 7:37am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@NikNak Salamat.
Please let me get this straight: is *ang* the same as *isang* ?
In that case, why is it used in the plural? I obviously am missing something.
Thanks also for suggesting the book by Fiona de Vos ☺️.
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Sep 22 2020, 8:18am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@Aiza Ako is singular, not plural, as it refers to only one person.
 
More Info:
en.wikipedia.org/wik i/Tagalog_grammar
 
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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 22 2020, 9:48pm CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 22 2020, 9:50pm CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@Bituingmaykinang
I have opened the two sites you linked in, but each time I get the alert with exclamation mark in a triangle: "unsafe/ dangerous/avoid using".
Does that happen also to you?
Do you know who the author of the site is?
(Salamat πŸ€”.)
 
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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 22 2020, 9:53pm CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@AMBoy Thank you, also for the link.
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
Sep 23 2020, 10:55am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
Are you using a public internet? The links I sent yoy are from an educational institution. It's your connection that might not be safe
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
Sep 23 2020, 10:57am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@Sometimes just a friendly suggestion. Avoid comparing Tagalog to Indonesian. There may be similarities but there are many differences
 
Example: Tagalog has the complex Austronesian alignment while Indonesian does not. Indoensian is also Subject-initial, while Tagalog is usually verb-initial.
 
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Author Photo jkos Badge: AdminBadge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
Sep 23 2020, 10:59am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@Sometimes @Bituingmaykinang
 
The website is pretty safe. Some browsers have started giving that warning for all websites that don't use SSL (i.e., the web address doesn't start with "https://"). The SEASite website is pretty old, created back when SSL wasn't so common, and it doesn't use SSL...it makes the website less secure than others...but since you won't be using the site to do something sensitive (like banking), you should be OK.
 
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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 23 2020, 11:03am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@Bituingmaykinang
You may be right. I sure hope to resolve the problem: the info you sent is very valuable.
 
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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 23 2020, 11:06am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@jkos Salamat.
Yes I only use it for having my mind boggled... Never seen anything like the Tagalog verb...😱😱😱😱.
 
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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 23 2020, 11:18am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@Bituingmaykinang
Thank you for the friendly suggestion. I won't compare aloud anymore.
Funny, when I was in the USA a highly educated (native) Filippino told me that the two languages were almost mutually understandable and I said I did not think so. I have always had a hunch Tagalog was tough. Now I know I was not wrong about that (unfortunately) 😒😁.
 
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Author Photo Sometimes
Sep 23 2020, 11:20am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
@Bituingmaykinang
What is (Austronesian) alignment?
 
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Author Photo Bituingmaykinang
Sep 23 2020, 11:37am CST ~ 3 years, 7 mos ago. 
Austronesian alignment is complex. You'll need a grammar book to fully understand it.
 
You can check also google it.
 
As an example: the proper pronoun to be used will depend on the conjugation based on focus, then you also have to be careful with the ang/ng marker and "its" pronouns
 
There's a subtle difference between KINAIN KO ANG ISDA and KUMAIN AKO NG ISDA.
 
KINAIN AKO NG ISDA has a different meaning entirely.
 
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