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Jul 20 2021, 7:19am CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

Lets say i wanted to say “you should have gone to the market yesterday”, is “dapat mong pumunta sa tiangge kahapon” acceptable? Or does something have to be added to dapat to mark out a statement about the theoretical past?

Jul 20 2021, 8:21am CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

Dapat pumunta ka sana sa palengke/tiangge kahapon

Jul 20 2021, 10:08am CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

Dapat pumunta ka sana sa palengke/tiangge kahapon

I'm not a native, and I could be wrong but this doesn't seem right. I'm open to correction but to me I think I would go with:

Dapat kang pumunta sa palengke kahapon.

Jul 20 2021, 12:53pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

Dapat nagpunta/pumunta ka sa palengke kahapon

Jul 20 2021, 12:55pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

I'm not a native, and I could be wrong but this doesn't seem right. I'm open to correction but to me I think I would go with: Dapat kang pumunta sa palengke kahapon.

@AMBoy yeah. Having dapat and sana together in one sentence makes the sentence redundant

Jul 20 2021, 12:57pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

Should have sentences? Lets say i wanted to say “you should have gone to the market yesterday”, is “dapat mong pumunta sa tiangge kahapon” acceptable? Or does something have to be added to dapat to mark out a statement about the theoretical past?

@Kersheys the error in this sentence is the use of mo. -um- is barely used with mo

Jul 20 2021, 1:05pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

@Bituingmaykinang is dapat kang pumunta also acceptable like dapat pumunta ka?

Jul 20 2021, 4:06pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

@Bituingmaykinang yeah thats what was throwing me off, but also is it common or something to go dapat <verb> vs dapat pronoun (like we would with other psuedo verbs)? I notice both of you natives both did that.

Jul 20 2021, 5:37pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

Bituingmaykinang is dapat kang pumunta also acceptable like dapat pumunta ka?

@Kersheys they're different in the sense that dapat kang pumunta is an incomplete sentence while dapat pumunta ka is a complete sentence.

Jul 20 2021, 5:41pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

Bituingmaykinang yeah thats what was throwing me off, but also is it common or something to go dapat <verb> vs dapat pronoun (like we would with other psuedo verbs)? I notice both of you natives both did that.

@AMBoy dapat + pronoun(-ng or na) + verb without additional info is incomplete while dapat + verb + pronoun is a complete sentence

Dapat kang pumunta...but where?

Dapat pumunta ka. Okay, noted. Next time I will go.

Jul 20 2021, 7:23pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

@Bituingmaykinang Sure thats good to know but you still used Dapat + verb even when you specified more information.

Dapat nagpunta/pumunta ka sa palengke kahapon

Any reason why ?

Is Dapat kang pumunta sa palengke kahapon not valid?

Jul 20 2021, 8:42pm CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

Bituingmaykinang Sure thats good to know but you still used Dapat + verb even when you specified more information. Any reason why ? Is Dapat kang pumunta sa palengke kahapon not valid?

@AMBoy it's *still* not "very complete". The crux in this order is the na/-ng. More often than not, that sentence will be followed up with a "bakit". As opposed to "dapat pumunta ka", in which a lot of times, is enough to end the conversation.

The first sentence can be thought as "you should go..." While the second one "you should have gone"

Jul 21 2021, 8:14am CST ~ 2 years, 9 mos ago.

@Kersheys remember verb, actor, object,location.
Dapat ay napunta ako sa mercado ngayon

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