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How Nico David WON Against MAKAGAGO and JONAH RENZ JACOB 's LAWSUIT | Part 1: HUMILIATION
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00:00.0
So, yung doon sa case, lipat man tayo.
00:04.4
Gusto mo naman pag-usapan yun?
00:05.9
Ano gusto mo?
00:07.1
Actually yun na, nangpisa na natin e.
00:08.6
Alright, sige.
00:09.6
Sige, sige.
00:10.4
So, nangyari yun December, di ba?
00:12.8
Around 2 years ago?
00:14.2
Ganito kasi yun e. It happened nung kasagsagan ng pandemic.
00:18.8
So, siguro muna, I'll give you a brief background kasi.
00:23.4
Me and MG were friends.
00:25.2
We were really good friends.
00:26.8
Kasi tropa talaga na parang tayo.
00:31.6
Ang iba lang, ano kami, video call.
00:34.6
Nag-usap kami sa phone.
00:37.6
Tapos nag-usap kami about sa buhay niya.
00:39.6
Tapos, I remember nung laban niya sa Sunugan.
00:42.6
Nagpapatulong siya magsulat ng bar sa akin kasi he doesn't know the rappers.
00:48.6
Kaya ako noon talaga, bago pa ako pumasok ng YouTube, nanonood na talaga ako ng fliptop noon.
00:54.2
Sabi ko, so ito yung kay, si Price Tag mahilig yan sa gun bars.
01:02.2
Okay, so sa gun bars ka magfocus diyan.
01:04.2
Si Apex, ito yung pangasar sa kanya.
01:07.2
Si Anigma, ito yung pangasar sa kanya.
01:09.2
Si Luni, ito yung pangasar sa kanya.
01:12.2
So, alam mo yun.
01:13.2
Tapos nung dumating sa Sunugan, tangina nagkalat pare.
01:17.2
I was...
01:18.2
Ginamit niya yung mga sinabi mo?
01:21.2
Iba kasi pag nandun ka na sa moment eh.
01:25.2
You need to have stage presence.
01:26.2
That's why yung mga rappers sa fliptop, sa Sunugan, saludo ako sa kanila.
01:33.2
Kasi not everyone can do this, tung rap battle na to.
01:37.2
It takes skills, real skills.
01:39.2
Si MG kasi all he has is fame.
01:42.2
That's about it.
01:43.2
Alam mo yun, nakakahiya.
01:45.2
He doesn't have the talent to do rap battle.
01:48.2
Alam mo yun, madali lang. Madali lang magbigkas-bigkas ng bars.
01:52.2
Pero magbigkas ka ng bars ng 3 rounds, tapos kakabisaduin mo 100 line or 200 line.
02:00.2
It's really tough.
02:01.2
It's basically parang nag-open mic.
02:04.2
Kasi sa stand-up comedy, it's basically stand-up comedy rin eh.
02:09.2
May bars lang yung nakabara lang.
02:11.2
Pero yung mga nagpo-frontliner.
02:15.2
Erinbawa, katulad din na Alex Calleja. Taon yan, bago nila nag-abot yun.
02:19.2
Yung mga unang salta, open micer ang tawag dun.
02:22.2
Tapos parang first open mic mo, sa pinakamalaking stage ka agad sinabap.
02:28.2
Anong nangyari kay MG?
02:30.2
Tapos ang kinalaban niya pa, someone who is very competent.
02:34.2
Na literal na binuhat yung laro.
02:37.2
Kaya ko saludo ko dyan kay Pricetag eh.
02:40.2
Kasi talagang, alam mo yun, kahit na hindi marunong yung kalaban niya,
02:46.2
he was so professional about it.
02:48.2
Tapos kasama ko pa nun yung ex ko.
02:51.2
Papakilala ko sana kay MG, buti na lang hindi niya nakilala.
02:54.2
Talaga?
02:56.2
Hindi ko na lang babanggitan yung, kasi my ex has moved on eh.
03:01.2
Pero we're still friends.
03:03.2
Ibang ex to, hindi yung nanay ng anak ko.
03:05.2
Kasi yun yung iniisip din ng internet na I'm such a simp.
03:10.2
Sure, okay lang.
03:11.2
Pero kasama ko siya nun, nung sunugan.
03:13.2
Papakilala ko sana kay MG.
03:15.2
So buti na lang hindi.
03:17.2
I remember when we were calling each other,
03:20.2
nakatabi ko lagi yung si ex ko.
03:23.2
Tapos naririnig niya si MG.
03:24.2
Miskin nung nagpodcast kami nun.
03:26.2
They remember that, 2018.
03:28.2
Kasi sila team Sawyer.
03:30.2
After nun, naging okay kami.
03:35.2
Kasi nun, during that time talaga, he really wanted the fame.
03:39.2
Ako kasi, I don't understand. Why do you need the fame?
03:42.2
Sinabi niya yun? Sinabi niya talaga yun?
03:44.2
Verbatim?
03:46.2
Hindi, hindi. Hindi verbatim niya sinabi yun.
03:48.2
Pero in a way, parang nakikita ko kasi yung galawan niya.
03:51.2
He really wants the attention.
03:53.2
Nagtataka ko, why?
03:55.2
Ito yung hindi maintindihan ng tao.
03:57.2
Sinasabi nila sakin, nagka-cloud chase ako.
04:00.2
Kaya ako sumasaw-saw.
04:01.2
Bro, hindi.
04:02.2
I cloud, ginagawa ko yung cloud chasing na yan
04:05.2
because I need the money.
04:06.2
Kasi pag sumasaw ako sa issue, may pera ako.
04:09.2
Hindi ko ginagawa yun to get views.
04:12.2
To get followers, fame.
04:14.2
Hindi. Iba yung gagawin ko kung gusto ko ng fame.
04:17.2
Aayusin ko yung branding ko siguro.
04:19.2
Basically, if you, you can,
04:22.2
as long as you get the money,
04:24.2
it doesn't matter kung famous ka o hindi.
04:26.2
Pero if you're famous and you're not getting the money,
04:30.2
di bali na.
04:31.2
Like for example, sa TikTok.
04:32.2
Why don't I post sa TikTok?
04:33.2
Kasi sa TikTok ako maraming views.
04:35.2
Like for example,
04:36.2
meron ako dung 200,000 views.
04:38.2
Meron ako dung 100,000 views.
04:40.2
Meron ako dung 80,000, 50,000 views.
04:42.2
Why don't I post there?
04:43.2
Kasi dun yung views.
04:44.2
I don't get paid there.
04:46.2
So why would I post there?
04:47.2
Tapos sa Facebook,
04:48.2
bakit hindi ako masyadong nagpo-post sa Facebook?
04:50.2
Kasi there's no money in Facebook.
04:52.2
Ang kita ko lang sa YouTube.
04:54.2
So sa YouTube lang ako.
04:56.2
At saka sa YouTube,
04:57.2
lenient siya sa policies niya
05:00.2
pagdating sa mga content ko.
05:02.2
Ibig sabihin,
05:03.2
hindi niya ako masyadong pinupulis.
05:05.2
Sa TikTok, pak pulis agad.
05:07.2
Sa Facebook, 30-day ban.
05:09.2
What the fuck, man?
05:11.2
Ay, sorry.
05:12.2
Hindi ako pwede magmura
05:13.2
kasi nasa Facebook tayo.
05:14.2
Okay lang, okay lang.
05:15.2
So alam niyo...
05:16.2
Sige ko, shadow ban nga tong channel na to.
05:19.2
Kasi nagko-content ako dati
05:22.2
tungkol sa COVID.
05:23.2
Ayaw nila yun.
05:25.2
Exactly.
05:26.2
So that's why
05:27.2
ang focus ko talaga
05:29.2
is to make money sa social media.
05:31.2
People really don't understand.
05:32.2
Kala ko ba, Nico,
05:33.2
hindi mo to ginagawa sa pera?
05:35.2
Well, what would I do this for?
05:37.2
For fame?
05:38.2
Well, maybe before.
05:40.2
Maybe before,
05:41.2
pero not now.
05:42.2
Now kasi parang, alam niyo,
05:44.2
you have to be practical about life.
05:46.2
Why would I fight someone
05:48.2
na I don't even know this guy.
05:50.2
I don't have beef with you, bro.
05:52.2
Like, alam niyo,
05:54.2
lalo nung political era,
05:57.2
there were so many people
05:59.2
na nagtatag sa akin,
06:00.2
Oh, Nico, eto yung sagot.
06:02.2
Ito yung sagot sa...
06:04.2
Kay BBM, eto yung...
06:06.2
debatihin mo si ganito,
06:08.2
yung nurse, may nurse pa dun eh.
06:10.2
Or si yung batanda na mg,
06:13.2
remember that guy?
06:15.2
Ah, oo, yung may otohan, parang ganun.
06:18.2
Oo, yan, yan, that guy.
06:19.2
Gusto nila, debatihin ko din yun.
06:21.2
Meron pa yung isa,
06:23.2
yung coach naman.
06:24.2
Otohan naman.
06:26.2
Alam niyo yun,
06:28.2
the box has to stop somewhere.
06:31.2
Kasi I don't want to be...
06:33.2
I understand, kasi nga,
06:35.2
debunk-debunk ako.
06:36.2
Pero, hindi yung...
06:38.2
The purpose of the debunks
06:39.2
is just to criticize,
06:41.2
not to be adversarial with someone.
06:43.2
Pero inevitable yun eh.
06:45.2
Siyempre, kasi yung mga...
06:47.2
yung mga tao na yan,
06:48.2
may ego na pa...
06:49.2
Yeah, I understand.
06:51.2
I understand it's inevitable.
06:53.2
Pero you don't have to be
06:54.2
adversarial about it.
06:55.2
Naintindihan mo yung difference dun.
06:57.2
Like for example, we talk,
06:59.2
we have disagreements.
07:00.2
You and I, we have disagreements
07:01.2
over the past year.
07:02.2
Lalo nun nung nagpa-podcast tayo
07:03.2
ng 2020...
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Last year yata.
07:06.2
Hindi, hindi yun.
07:07.2
Nung tayo-tayo pa nila Gerald,
07:09.2
and nila Gerald, nila Joffel.
07:11.2
Tsaka nila, di ba?
07:13.2
We have so much disagreement dun.
07:15.2
Pero after nun, we're friends.
07:17.2
Di ba?
07:19.2
Naalala ko nun, yung...
07:21.2
Ano yung pinagdebatean natin nun?
07:23.2
Yung one of the famous one,
07:25.2
yung...
07:27.2
COVID?
07:28.2
No, no, no, no, no.
07:29.2
Not the COVID.
07:30.2
Pero yung COVID last year yun.
07:31.2
Di ba?
07:33.2
Yung saying yata,
07:35.2
naalala mo yun?
07:37.2
Doon ka na Joffel ba yun?
07:38.2
Oo.
07:39.2
Parang vaguely.
07:41.2
Vaguely, di ba?
07:42.2
Ang haba natin pinag-usapan yun, di ba?
07:44.2
Hayo kong magpatalo.
07:46.2
Pero ending, hindi naman tayo
07:48.2
hindi naman tayo
07:50.2
magkaaway, di ba?
07:52.2
Yung hindi nila maintindihan yun.
07:54.2
We can have a discussion without being adversarial.
07:56.2
The thing kasi is ano eh,
07:58.2
ito parang
08:00.2
analog lang.
08:02.2
Pwede mo siyang i-compare sa
08:04.2
MMA.
08:06.2
Sa MMA kasi,
08:08.2
sa sport ng MMA,
08:10.2
may mga, syempre parang
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lalo na sa martial arts,
08:14.2
merong tradition nung
08:16.2
martial arts tradition na parang bowing
08:18.2
tradition, di ba? Na honor,
08:20.2
ganyan. Tapos sa sports din,
08:22.2
may ganun, na parang integrity
08:24.2
as a sportsman. Pero
08:26.2
there comes, which is, we all
08:28.2
appreciate, di ba? Pero then
08:30.2
here comes Conor McGregor,
08:32.2
na parang flamboyant na kupal,
08:34.2
di ba? Tapos sya yung makikita,
08:36.2
people reward him with fame,
08:38.2
di ba? Tapos,
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kung bagay, he diverts away
08:42.2
from the norm.
08:44.2
From the, ano eh,
08:46.2
from the honorable
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figure ng, di ba?
08:50.2
Kasi drama creates
08:52.2
content, di ba? Drama eh.
08:54.2
Hindi gets nung ibang
08:56.2
mga fans,
08:58.2
that was deliberate.
09:00.2
He's creating
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a show, di ba? He's not,
09:04.2
he knows he's a professional fighter,
09:06.2
pero he's also in the entertainment
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business. So ganun din yung,
09:10.2
there's honor and
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integrity in creating content,
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pero you need to be entertaining.
09:16.2
Exactly. Kaya nga yung Axie Infinity
09:18.2
was the most toxic thing
09:20.2
na nangyari sa career ko eh.
09:22.2
O nga, bakit?
09:24.2
Sige, we'll get there.
09:26.2
Ano muna eh, naka-MG pa tayo.
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So alam mo yun,
09:30.2
si MG kasi, he's really good at delivering
09:32.2
yung mga sinasabi niya.
09:34.2
Yung, pag nag-add homonyms
09:36.2
na siya, tuwan-tuan na yung mga fans niya.
09:38.2
Tapos ano, problema lang kasi,
09:40.2
yung pag-add homonyms mo,
09:42.2
basically that's libel eh.
09:44.2
Pag may tinawag kang pangit,
09:46.2
libel agad yun. Eto, I'll give you a
09:48.2
an idea of how
09:50.2
libel works.
09:52.2
Steep, hindi, hindi steep eh.
09:54.2
Yung manipis, how thin libel
09:56.2
laws here in the Philippines.
09:58.2
Kilala mo si ano, si Franco
10:00.2
Mabanta. You know Franco
10:02.2
Mabanta? You know
10:04.2
yung...
10:06.2
You know Franco Mabanta?
10:08.2
Dinemanda siya ni...
10:10.2
Sino ba yung nag-demanda sa kanya?
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Ako yung Pinoy Vlogs.
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You know
10:16.2
what the...
10:18.2
Alam mo yung isang point nung libel,
10:20.2
tinawag niyang...
10:22.2
Pangit. Yeah, yung babae.
10:24.2
Si Jovi...
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Tinawag niyang word na yun.
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See, I'm very careful
10:30.2
now.
10:32.2
And it's a point sa libel. You know why?
10:34.2
Kasi you cannot
10:36.2
impute defect
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sa tao. Calling someone
10:40.2
ugly is a defect.
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So you cannot do that.
10:44.2
So everyone who calls someone
10:46.2
ugly is making
10:48.2
a libelous statement. Kunyari,
10:50.2
tinawag mo, kunyari yung
10:52.2
kahit sino,
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kahit biro lang,
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it's a point in libel.
10:58.2
Of course, you have to prove malice.
11:00.2
But the thing is, if one of
11:02.2
those points is pasok,
11:04.2
pwede na agad umakyat yung
11:06.2
kaso mo. Kailangan mo na
11:08.2
mag-lawyer up agad. And do you know how much
11:10.2
a lawyer costs dito sa Pilipinas?
11:12.2
Minimum 50,000 pesos
11:14.2
for calling someone
11:16.2
ugly. What the fuck, man?
11:18.2
This is how stupid the laws
11:20.2
here in our country is. Diba?
11:22.2
And ang masakit pa dito,
11:26.2
public figures tong mga to eh,
11:28.2
pero nagdedemandahan sila.
11:30.2
I could, ang sabi sa batas
11:32.2
natin, yung public figures,
11:34.2
mas mataas
11:36.2
yung ano mo dapat sa libel
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sa kanila. Mas mataas yung
11:40.2
yung ano, yung
11:42.2
threshold. Kaso hindi eh.
11:44.2
Pumapasok pa rin eh. Why?
11:46.2
Diba? Tangina, Tol.
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Sobrang mind-blown
11:50.2
ako talaga sa ano.
11:52.2
Parang yung pagtawag ng
11:54.2
pangit, ano eh, panong pangit naman
11:56.2
talaga? Atsaka, diba?
11:58.2
Tol! Sige, pupunta tayo
12:00.2
dito sa law. So, nangyari na tayo.
12:02.2
I've watched
12:04.2
a tour ni Libayan enough
12:06.2
na parang kahit totoo,
12:08.2
kahit totoo, ano talaga, parang
12:10.2
Hindi mo pwedeng sabihin?
12:12.2
Pwede pa rin maging libelous,
12:14.2
basta may malicious yung intent mo.
12:16.2
Hindi.
12:18.2
Hindi, kasi ganito eh,
12:20.2
pag dinemanda ka ng
12:22.2
libel, papatunayan
12:24.2
nila yung apat na points ng libel sa'yo.
12:26.2
Pero the thing is,
12:28.2
may libel case ka na.
12:30.2
Yun yung hassle eh.
12:32.2
Hindi naman yung
12:34.2
kung hahatulan ka.
12:36.2
Kasi, bro,
12:38.2
statistics, 95% of
12:40.2
libel cases here in the country gets thrown out.
12:42.2
95%.
12:44.2
Or I think mas mataas pa.
12:46.2
So, 5% lang yung
12:48.2
pumapasok. And sino yung mga
12:50.2
nahatulan ng libel? Si Marie Reza.
12:52.2
You know why? Because he's
12:54.2
fucking with the government.
12:56.2
That's why you don't fuck with this government.
12:58.2
Kaya kita mo, nung
13:00.2
inaasak nila akong pro-Duterte ako,
13:02.2
hindi na akong salita.
13:04.2
Kasi ayokong makasunulin ang libel
13:06.2
ng mga senador na nandun eh.
13:08.2
Ayokong nga.
13:10.2
What's the point?
13:12.2
Kayo na lang. Gusto niyong
13:14.2
maghinisan? Kayo na lang.
13:16.2
Kaya nga nung
13:18.2
election,
13:20.2
nung Marcos magnanakaw,
13:22.2
yung talaga, parang ano yun eh, parang
13:24.2
ahahaha.
13:26.2
Kasi hindi, kasi nga,
13:28.2
everyone is calling him magnanakaw.
13:30.2
He cannot pinpoint it to anyone.
13:32.2
So, open na open yung magnanakaw
13:34.2
na pangasar sa kanya. And you know what?
13:36.2
Guess what? Maharlika fan, mananakawan
13:38.2
uli kayo.
13:42.2
Go!
13:44.2
So, going back to
13:46.2
MG,
13:48.2
lahat ng live ni MG nun, specially nung
13:50.2
ex-Batalyon era,
13:52.2
was libelous. Libelous dun sa mga
13:54.2
sinasabi niya. Alam mo yun.
13:56.2
And
13:58.2
ang swerte si MG,
14:00.2
kasi no one really
14:02.2
sa ex-Batalyon, walang nagdemanda sa kanya dun
14:04.2
si Lascasta. Hindi, hindi siya pinatuloy.
14:06.2
Pinadala siya demand letter siguro.
14:08.2
Pero, kinukwento sa akin ni
14:10.2
Lascasta, pinadala nung
14:12.2
yung nanay niya, nagpadala kay MG
14:14.2
ng demand letter kasi ayaw tumigil.
14:16.2
Pero that's it.
14:18.2
Hindi siya kinasuwan or something.
14:20.2
Swerte pa siya eh. Pero sabi ni MG,
14:22.2
dami million daw ginastos niya para mag
14:24.2
para dun sa mga
14:26.2
sinetel niya. I don't know eh.
14:28.2
Kasi...
14:30.2
At least parang, hindi ko alam kung parang
14:32.2
may napanood akong
14:34.2
ganun na sinabi niya. Yeah.
14:36.2
Pero, at this point, do you believe the guy?
14:38.2
Yeah. It's really hard to believe
14:40.2
him nowadays. Madaling nang sabihin, diba?
14:42.2
Madaling sabihin eh. It can be true, it can be not.
14:44.2
Pakita niya yung sapina, mga sapina niya.
14:46.2
Yung mga ano. Kasi pwede mo naman
14:48.2
pakita yung header ng sapina mo.
14:50.2
People of the Philippines versus ganyan.
14:52.2
Pwede mong pakita yun eh. Tatakpan mo lang
14:54.2
yung nagdemanda siya. Pero you can show.
14:56.2
You can show a retracted
14:58.2
kasi yun yung
15:00.2
ang point, pwede mong pakita
15:02.2
yung mga yun eh. Just show.
15:04.2
Pakita mo kung saan
15:06.2
kinasuwan. Pwede mong pakita yun kasi general
15:08.2
knowledge yun eh. Pero
15:10.2
hanggat wala ka siyang pinapakita.
15:12.2
Pero, I don't know man.
15:14.2
Pero going back to the
15:16.2
actual case, ano yung
15:18.2
pinakang
15:20.2
kinaputok ng butsi niya basically?
15:22.2
Na sinabi mo and
15:24.2
which particular video?
15:26.2
Kasi tapos na to. So we can talk
15:28.2
about it now.
15:30.2
Alam kasi nung
15:32.2
judge, alam nila
15:34.2
na sa social media kami so
15:36.2
one way or another lalabas na to.
15:38.2
So,
15:40.2
nung pandemic
15:42.2
era, ang dami kong debunk
15:44.2
kay Jonah at siya.
15:46.2
Nagalit, kasi
15:48.2
si Jonah never liked me
15:50.2
from the get go. Kasi parang
15:52.2
ginagaya ko daw si MG. Si MG
15:54.2
naging okay kami. Kaso nung
15:56.2
diniss ko si Jonah,
15:58.2
kasi naglabas ako ng
16:00.2
meron siyang ginawa kay Merc
16:02.2
yung isang kagrupo niya. Tapos
16:04.2
nagreply ako. Parang ito yung reaction
16:06.2
video ko. Yung ginagawa ko, nagreaction ako.
16:08.2
Hindi niya gustuhan ni MG yun.
16:10.2
So nag
16:12.2
live sa akin si Jonah. Hindi naman, gumawa siya
16:14.2
ng content sa akin. Tapos tinatawag akong baboy.
16:16.2
Baboy, ganyan,
16:18.2
ginaganon ako. Tapos
16:20.2
basta ang dami niyang mahirap,
16:22.2
hampas lupa, ganyan. Pasta gano'n.
16:26.2
Slopsoil ka rin pala eh.
16:28.2
Mayama naman si Jonah eh.
16:30.2
That's where it
16:32.2
started. Tapos tumigil
16:34.2
ako nun sa kanila eh. Kasi
16:36.2
ah, tawag dito, um,
16:40.2
ah,
16:42.2
tawag dito,
16:44.2
nawala tuloy ako, ah,
16:46.2
tumigil ako sa kanila nun. Tapos bumalik uli ako
16:48.2
nung pandemic. Nung
16:50.2
pandemic na, gumagawa na ako ng debunk sa kanila.
16:52.2
Ang problema nun, sa Facebook ko
16:54.2
pinopost. Sa Facebook nagvaviral siya na
16:56.2
nagvaviral. So parang,
16:58.2
ah, alam mo kasi mahirap
17:00.2
talaga pigilan magreact ang tao sa'yo.
17:02.2
Especially if you're a public figure.
17:04.2
Kaya nakikita mo yung mga gumagawa sa akin ng video,
17:06.2
hinahayaan ko na lang. Kasi I know, wala ko magagawa
17:08.2
dun talaga. It's like, ah,
17:10.2
pag nagalit ako dun sa isa,
17:12.2
ano, manganganak pa
17:14.2
ng manganganak yun. So hayaan mo na lang.
17:16.2
Anong magagawa ko kung, kung
17:18.2
may gumawa sa akin ng sampung video about me?
17:20.2
Ano, sasagutin ko lahat yun?
17:22.2
I would waste my time pagka gano'n.
17:24.2
At saka, hindi lang yun. I would,
17:26.2
ah, I would, um,
17:28.2
stress myself in listening to
17:30.2
someone that I don't want to listen to.
17:32.2
Imagine that, ah,
17:34.2
kunyari, kailangan sa, eh, yung ibang, yung
17:36.2
rabid fanbase na
17:38.2
galit sa akin. Meron na nun
17:40.2
talaga, eh, ah, na yung
17:42.2
haters talaga sila, eh, na galit
17:44.2
talaga sila sa ginagawa ko for some odd reason.
17:46.2
They don't know who I am, they don't know
17:48.2
where I live, they don't know, ah,
17:50.2
they don't know, ah, who
17:52.2
I date, pero they are so angry
17:54.2
sa akin, sa mga sinasabi ko.
17:56.2
Hindi lang nila, hindi nilang natrip ang ano, ang video mo
17:58.2
tsaka ikaw, parang gano'n.
18:00.2
I owe them, I owe them
18:02.2
supposed to be, I owe them an explanation
18:04.2
kapag may nag-debunk sa akin.
18:06.2
I owe a reply sa kanila. No.
18:08.2
No, of course not. Ah,
18:10.2
kung ayaw ko, ayaw ko. Yun yung hindi
18:12.2
maintindihan ng internet, ah,
18:14.2
o yung mga tao na yun. Kasi you can always
18:16.2
refuse to do drama.
18:18.2
Yes, yes. That's why I'm, what I'm
18:20.2
doing. Kaya ako, stick lang ako dun sa
18:22.2
gusto ng tao sa akin, which is,
18:24.2
you know, yung mga nagte-trendjack
18:26.2
na video, diba?
18:28.2
Imagine, ah, merong isang TikToker
18:30.2
nung, nung
18:32.2
eleksyon, millions of views.
18:34.2
Ngayon wala na siyang views kasi
18:36.2
panalo na si Marcos eh.
18:38.2
Pero they want me to answer that guy.
18:40.2
Sabi ko, ayaw ko. Kasi bubuhatin
18:42.2
ko yung pangalan niya sa YouTube eh.
18:44.2
Gumawa siya sa akin. Nakita ko
18:46.2
2 hours video about me?
18:48.2
What the fuck?
18:50.2
Sabi ko, why would
18:52.2
I listen to this? I would
18:54.2
spend, um,
18:56.2
1 twelfth of my day listening
18:58.2
to this guy debunking
19:00.2
me. Why? Why would I do that?
19:02.2
Alam mo ba yun? Kasi you are not
19:04.2
This is what is
19:06.2
mind-boggling sa akin eh.
19:08.2
People don't realize
19:10.2
that you are, if you don't want to answer
19:12.2
someone, you are not compelled
19:14.2
to answer him. Diba?
19:16.2
Kaya ka nga humaarap sa korte
19:18.2
para ma, para ano eh, diba?
19:20.2
And also, it's a, it's a
19:22.2
chess match din eh.
19:24.2
Na parang, yung sinabi mo, parang
19:26.2
bibigyan mo siya ng, ng clout, parang
19:28.2
magiging, magiging
19:30.2
magiging gagamitin
19:32.2
kampanya. Diba? Exactly. Kasi
19:34.2
walang upside sa akin to. Yes.
19:36.2
Kung hindi si Tinking Pinoy yung kalaban ko
19:38.2
or si, ah,
19:40.2
sino ba? Si Mocha.
19:42.2
Si Mocha, yan. Or si Banat
19:44.2
Bay. Walang upside sa akin yan
19:46.2
kung yung mga ano. Pero
19:48.2
sila, may upside sila kasi papatulan
19:50.2
ko sila eh, diba?
19:52.2
Ah, do, do, eto yung
19:54.2
ane, ah, at
19:56.2
one point in time kasi, mas sikatawo
19:58.2
kay Atty. Libayan.
20:00.2
Would you agree with that? Yes, yes. Facts yun, diba?
20:02.2
Oo. Pero kasi si Atty.
20:04.2
Libayan, nakikita ko kasi yung
20:06.2
ginagawa niya sa internet.
20:08.2
Ah,
20:10.2
kada magkakamali ako about sa look,
20:12.2
kinokorek niya ako para
20:14.2
itama ako next live.
20:16.2
So I know the guy's intention is not
20:18.2
to be, to clout chase.
20:20.2
His intention is to educate
20:22.2
the Pilipino. Kaya ako siya pinatulan.
20:24.2
Ah,
20:26.2
ang, ang makaganda
20:28.2
isa pa dun,
20:30.2
he gave,
20:32.2
linibre niya yung acceptance fee
20:34.2
kailang makagago. Libre yun.
20:36.2
Dalawang case yun ah.
20:38.2
You can imagine that, that's around
20:40.2
150,000 na libre. So I really
20:42.2
owe the guy a lot. That's why
20:44.2
nung tinitiran niya ako sa Axie,
20:46.2
relax lang ako.
20:48.2
Alam ko kasi, his intentions
20:50.2
was not really to malign me.
20:52.2
Diba? Baka mabago niya yung
20:54.2
perspective ko, which he did. Actually, he
20:56.2
did, diba? Pero
20:58.2
the fans, ah,
21:00.2
really came down on me. Hanggang ngayon nga,
21:02.2
merong nagde-debate, dusa
21:04.2
parang two year, parang
21:06.2
almost, one year na, diba?
21:08.2
One year ago. O, kailan yung
21:10.2
tuwing may news
21:12.2
about Axie, o ano masasabi niyo?
21:14.2
O, diba?
21:16.2
Nakakatawa eh. So,
21:18.2
tapos minsan, gusto lang
21:20.2
pagharapin kayo.
21:22.2
Kailangang magde-debate si Nico at si Atorne.
21:24.2
Una, una kasi, they don't realize
21:26.2
how good a lawyer is
21:28.2
pagdating sa arguments.
21:30.2
Any lawyer would destroy
21:32.2
me. It's like, ganito kasi,
21:34.2
marunong ako sa suntukan,
21:36.2
pero hindi ako magaling sa boxing.
21:38.2
Sila, Atorne Libayan,
21:40.2
yung level nila, mga professional
21:42.2
boxing, boxingero yan, talo agad
21:44.2
ako dun, diba?
21:46.2
Ay, syempre yung mga nagahamon sa akin,
21:48.2
yun lang yung level ko.
21:50.2
Feeling mo lang kaya mo, usually ganun.
21:52.2
Parang martial arts nga. O, diba?
21:54.2
Pero when you, alam ko naman yung
21:56.2
mangyayari dun, of course he would not
21:58.2
relent sa akin. And ang problema
22:00.2
pa, pag binigyan mo ng
22:02.2
open space, yung abugado
22:04.2
na mag-argue sa'yo,
22:06.2
rararatin ka nyan.
22:08.2
Kaya nga ako, ang pinaka-highlight
22:10.2
ko sa buhay ko, hindi naman sa
22:12.2
buhay, sa karyer ko sa, sa ano?
22:14.2
Sa YouTube. Sa, hindi,
22:16.2
sa buong pag-youtube ko,
22:18.2
isa sa mga pinaka-highlight ko.
22:20.2
Yung nakipag-argue ako,
22:22.2
sa abugado nila makagago.
22:24.2
Off court and on court. Mamaya kukwento ko sa'yo.
22:26.2
That was really the highlight of my
22:28.2
my YouTube
22:30.2
career, kung meron man. Kasi...
22:32.2
Sa YouTube mo ginawa? Hindi. Ibig
22:34.2
ko sabihin, kasi, of course battle of
22:36.2
the YouTubers yun eh. And I was
22:38.2
faced with their lawyers.
22:40.2
Buti na lang, nag-debate kami
22:42.2
ni Atty. Libayan. So
22:44.2
malakas na yung loob ko, na kapag
22:46.2
alam ko ang isang bagay,
22:48.2
kailangan panindigan ko. Imagine mo,
22:50.2
ginigisa ka ng abugado, anda may judge,
22:52.2
may interpreter, pero you
22:54.2
can argue with the lawyer. Putangina pare.
22:56.2
Sobrang proud moment ko yun.
22:58.2
Pero, sige,
23:00.2
wala pa tayo dun. May naririnig kang ano, parang
23:02.2
background music.
23:04.2
Sa utak mo lang, no?
23:06.2
Oo.
23:08.2
So,
23:10.2
teka, balik tayo ulit
23:12.2
dun sa
23:14.2
actual experience
23:16.2
mo. Kasi I think yun ang magiging
23:18.2
interesado
23:20.2
ang mga taong eh. Parang...
23:22.2
Kasi you
23:24.2
mentioned
23:26.2
nung dumating yung
23:28.2
demand letter sa PINA. So ganito
23:30.2
yung nangyari. After nung
23:32.2
after nung...
23:34.2
Kasi ang last content ko
23:36.2
sa Brusco nun was yung...
23:38.2
Diba parang nag-iwahiwalay sila?
23:40.2
Tapos bumalik sila.
23:42.2
Nung bumalik sila, na-review ko yun. Tapos
23:44.2
nag-announce ako nun sa mga
23:46.2
nakikinig sakin. Kasi ang laki ng
23:48.2
views ko nun, 90,000, 100,000.
23:50.2
Sabi ko, pass na ako sa Brusco.
23:52.2
Siguro naman na-gets ko na.
23:54.2
Tapos I was in the process of moving
23:56.2
on away sa kanila.
23:58.2
Kaso the thing is, pag dating ng
24:00.2
July, birthday ko, putangina, dumating
24:02.2
yung sa PINA pare. Birthday mo nga pala,
24:04.2
nakakapanan eh. Diba? Ganyang
24:06.2
kakapal yung sa PINA. It was
24:08.2
really frightening at first.
24:10.2
Tangina, parang binagsakan ng mundo.
24:12.2
Kasi dinimanda ka. For what?
24:14.2
So, eto, eto.
24:16.2
I want to
24:18.2
get exactly
24:20.2
na yung
24:22.2
pagkabaffle mo.
24:24.2
You said, you dinimanda ka for what?
24:26.2
Hindi, kasi ganito yun eh.
24:30.2
Alam mo yung sa Game of Thrones,
24:32.2
yung si Olenna Tyrell.
24:34.2
Alam mo yun?
24:36.2
Nung mamamatay na si Olenna Tyrell,
24:38.2
sabi niya kay
24:40.2
Jaime Lannister noon,
24:42.2
yung failure,
24:44.2
kaya siya,
24:46.2
yung pinaka
24:48.2
kasalanan niya doon, yung failure
24:50.2
to realize how evil
24:52.2
Cersei Lannister is.
24:54.2
Hindi niya na-imagine na eto yung
24:56.2
capability ni
24:58.2
Cersei.
25:00.2
This was the most petty thing
25:02.2
na ginawa sakin ng tao.
25:04.2
Kasi this is just an internet squabble.
25:06.2
Alam mo yun?
25:08.2
You could have just replied,
25:10.2
and then tapos ako doon.
25:12.2
Kasi pag dinumuga ko, every day,
25:14.2
nung pandemic lalo,
25:16.2
araw-araw may nagmumura sakin.
25:18.2
Yung sa isang page ko, araw-araw,
25:20.2
every hour, may lima
25:22.2
or sampu
25:24.2
na messages, five to ten messages,
25:26.2
na minumura ko. Putangin mo, pilay, pilay, pilay.
25:28.2
Not cripple, pero yun yung
25:30.2
pinagkalat niya. That's a libelous statement.
25:32.2
Hindi naman totoo yun.
25:34.2
Pero, alam mo yun,
25:36.2
ang dami nun,
25:38.2
almost every day,
25:40.2
hanggang,
25:42.2
kasi after two to three weeks,
25:44.2
or a month, titigil din yun.
25:46.2
Pero hanggang ngayon,
25:48.2
meron isa o dalawa pa rin
25:50.2
na magmumura sakin sa comment section
25:52.2
na tatawag sakin, pilay, pag hindi nila
25:54.2
nagustuhan yun. Alam mo yun?
25:56.2
So,
25:58.2
nung ano, sabi ko,
26:00.2
gusto ko na mag-move on sa toxicity.
26:02.2
And I was really planning to quit
26:04.2
YouTube nun. As in, ayoko na.
26:06.2
Kasi after nung
26:08.2
binabash na ako sa
26:10.2
DDS, tapos,
26:12.2
I was, ano ne,
26:14.2
parang gusto ko na mag-sign off.
26:16.2
Kasi, ano ne, gusto ko na mag-exit
26:18.2
muna, or at least tumigil ng
26:20.2
hiatus para
26:22.2
bumalik uli yung
26:24.2
passion ko. I wanted to work
26:26.2
on my health kasi it was my birthday
26:28.2
nun e. Tapos, kasi alam ko, sobrang
26:30.2
laki ko nun e. Gusto ko muna, ano.
26:32.2
Tapos, ano,
26:34.2
may girlfriend daw.
26:36.2
Nakilala mo siya, di ba?
26:38.2
Papakilala ko. Teka lang. Papakita ko lang siya sa'yo.
26:40.2
Sige, sige.
26:42.2
Para lang alam mo.
26:44.2
Ito.
26:46.2
Siya, o. Teka, huwag mong pakita
26:48.2
sa camera.
26:50.2
Yan nakikita mo.
26:52.2
Siya yung
26:54.2
girlfriend ko nun during that time.
26:56.2
May girlfriend ako, kaso,
26:58.2
wala na kami ngayon, of course. Pero,
27:00.2
teka,
27:02.2
so, ang nangyari nun,
27:04.2
sabi kong ganun,
27:06.2
I wanted to, like,
27:08.2
take a break from
27:10.2
YouTube, tapos,
27:12.2
mag-workout ako, kasi I have,
27:14.2
tapos yung poker kasi
27:16.2
nun, ang lakas talaga nung pandemic.
27:18.2
It was, kaso nga lang
27:20.2
yung pera ko nasa labas. Kasi,
27:22.2
hindi kasi alam ng tao
27:24.2
yung racket ko sa poker nun eh.
27:26.2
Before I was a YouTuber, I was a professional
27:28.2
poker player. And,
27:30.2
meron na kong network nun mga players
27:32.2
that they, na imi-stake ko.
27:34.2
And they were really killing it.
27:36.2
Kaso nga lang talaga, wala pa yung pera.
27:38.2
The money will come
27:40.2
in increments. So, may pera
27:42.2
ako nun, kaso nasa labas.
27:44.2
So, ang problema nun, nagka-pandemic.
27:46.2
My guys couldn't get the money.
27:48.2
Okay, fuck. Magkano yun?
27:50.2
400,000 pesos nasa labas.
27:52.2
All I have with me then
27:54.2
was, what, 30,000 pesos
27:56.2
to my name. Sabi ko,
27:58.2
I just need to take a break. Kasi nga,
28:00.2
ang dami kong stress eh. And my dad was sick.
28:04.2
Sabi ni mommy sakin,
28:06.2
may sakit yung tatay mo.
28:08.2
You need to save up.
28:10.2
Okay, sige, sabi ko. And you need to stop
28:12.2
yung ginagawa mo sa YouTube. Kasi, it's very stressful
28:14.2
sa kanya pag pinanonood ka nya.
28:16.2
Pagkipag-away ka. Alam mo yun?
28:18.2
So, that's why I don't want to be
28:20.2
adversarial anymore. Kasi my dad
28:22.2
watches me. And my daughter
28:24.2
also watches me. And ayaw
28:26.2
kong maging adversarial sa kanila. Sabi kong gano'n,
28:28.2
okay, focus muna tayo
28:30.2
dito. Tapos siguro, yung sa relationship ko
28:32.2
din dun sa babaeng pinakita ko sa'yo,
28:34.2
I wanted to work it out. Kasi, ano eh,
28:36.2
she's younger sa akin eh.
28:38.2
So, alam mo yun, kailangan kong maging pasensyoso
28:40.2
kapag ka...
28:42.2
You know, ewan ko lang kung if you dated
28:44.2
someone younger. Pero, it's really
28:46.2
work. So,
28:48.2
eto na. Sa
28:50.2
birthday ko at siya-announce ko sa YouTube ko
28:52.2
that I'm taking a sabbatical.
28:54.2
Yun yung iniisip ko eh. Kasi,
28:56.2
ginawa ko yan after nung
28:58.2
Luni interview eh. By the way, dun sa mga nagtatanong,
29:00.2
Luni interview is in the Armada section.
29:02.2
All Jonah and MG content
29:04.2
is... Everything is in the Armada section.
29:06.2
Wala na sila sa public.
29:08.2
Yung iba, tinanggal ko. Kasi,
29:10.2
ayaw ko na rin...
29:12.2
Kaila MG kasi, kaila Jonah. Gusto ko na
29:14.2
mag-move on. Pero, the thing is, hindi ko sila
29:16.2
pwedeng tanggalin. Kasi, part sila ng history
29:18.2
ng channel ko. So, kung gusto mong panoorin
29:20.2
yun, you can pay 79 pesos
29:22.2
a month for it. Diba? So, yun yung
29:24.2
exclusive vod ko. Yung kay Luni din.
29:26.2
Kasi, very controversial
29:28.2
din yun eh. Nasa Armada section
29:30.2
din yun. Kung gusto mong mapanood, it's for 79 pesos.
29:32.2
Sorry if in-lag ko.
29:34.2
So, ayun na.
29:36.2
Ang daming pressure
29:38.2
sa akin nun. And then,
29:40.2
yun yun yan. Kasi, hindi ako sanay
29:42.2
kasi, nang
29:44.2
ito lang yung pera ko. Gusto ko may
29:46.2
extra pa ako, just in case.
29:48.2
Ang problema nun, it would come
29:50.2
in increments. Ang sabi nila sa akin,
29:52.2
Boss, baka mga mabuo natin
29:54.2
yung pera ng one year. Sabi ko, sige, okay lang.
29:56.2
May pera naman sa YouTube eh.
29:58.2
May pera naman galing sa
30:00.2
negosyo eh. So, intay lang tayo.
30:02.2
Tiisin lang natin yung pandemic.
30:04.2
Biglang dumating.
30:06.2
Biglang dumating yung ano.
30:08.2
Tang ina. Oh my God.
30:10.2
Sorry ha.
30:12.2
Alam mo yun, biglang dumating yung demanda.
30:14.2
Putang ina. Parang timing
30:16.2
na timing. Everything was not
30:18.2
going well. Tapos, dumating
30:20.2
yung demanda. Tang ina.
30:22.2
What the fuck? Hindi na ako pwedeng
30:24.2
mangingi sa tatay ko nun. Kasi may sakit
30:26.2
na yung tatay ko eh. I mean, he's sick already.
30:28.2
And ayun mga kapatid ko,
30:30.2
kagagraduate lang. So, magtatrabaho
30:32.2
pa lang sila. There was no one
30:34.2
there for me. Kasi ako lang mag-isa.
30:36.2
Nanginginig ako
30:38.2
ng tang ina. I mean, hanggang
30:40.2
ngayon siguro, I'm so emotional about
30:42.2
it. Kasi, parang nasaklo ba
30:44.2
ng langit nun? Sabi ko, what
30:46.2
the fuck? Anong g-
30:48.2
Akala ko bad boy ka tsaka
30:50.2
makagago ka. Pero bakit kayo
30:52.2
may ganito? Diba?
30:54.2
This is why I don't want
30:56.2
to be in a...
30:58.2
Kaya ayokong
31:00.2
maging... Kaya ayokong
31:02.2
maging...
31:04.2
yung makipag-away
31:06.2
sa social media. Kasi,
31:08.2
there would come a time na
31:10.2
baka...
31:12.2
baka
31:14.2
idemanda ka uli.
31:16.2
Kasi may mali kang sinabi. That's why
31:18.2
I don't want an adversarial
31:20.2
argument with someone.
31:22.2
Diba? Gusto ko,
31:24.2
ano lang, we can have an argument. Nang hindi
31:26.2
tayo mag-aaway, if I criticize you,
31:28.2
hindi dahil galit ako
31:30.2
sa'yo, I just want you to change a behavior
31:32.2
na hindi maganda.
31:34.2
Or at least, kasi you can't
31:36.2
really change someone. At least, parang
31:38.2
bagano ka lang ng... just express.
31:40.2
Eto, eto. I'll give you
31:42.2
an example. Kilala mo sila,
31:44.2
Maxi Presco, tsaka sila...
31:46.2
yung si Crazy Nights, yung
31:48.2
kantutan vlogs. Hindi eh.
31:50.2
Pero nakita mo sa
31:52.2
post ko. Siguro, siguro. After nun,
31:54.2
min-message ako nung dalawa.
31:56.2
Actually, si Maxi lang eh. Nagpapasalamat
31:58.2
sila sa akin, parang tinapick ko lang
32:00.2
sila. Sabi ko, pare, eto yung
32:02.2
sinabi ko sa inyo,
32:04.2
hindi ako galit sa inyo. Pero ang
32:06.2
sinasabi ko lang, ma-affect pa mon yung branding
32:08.2
niyo niyan. Kumbaga, long term,
32:10.2
ang maaalala sa inyo, hindi yung music, yung kantutan
32:12.2
vlogs. Kasi diyan kayo sumikat eh.
32:14.2
Gets mo? Baka hindi kayo makita.
32:16.2
Sabi niya, dekoys, mayroon kami ginagawa. Siguro,
32:18.2
sa live ko sa susunod, yun ang
32:20.2
pag-uusapan namin. So,
32:22.2
so after nun,
32:24.2
ayun, parang kasi
32:26.2
nakluban ng langit talaga. Kasi wala kang...
32:28.2
there was no one with me there.
32:30.2
Tapos, ang kasama ko lang nun,
32:32.2
mga aso ko, si ate,
32:34.2
tsaka yung mga
32:36.2
tenants namin,
32:38.2
the tenants could not pay.
32:40.2
Kasi nawalan sila
32:42.2
lahat ng trabaho. Tapos,
32:44.2
yung isa, kasi meron
32:46.2
akong kabusiness,
32:48.2
meron akong
32:50.2
kanegosyo nun na
32:52.2
tenant,
32:54.2
yung mga trabahador niya sa
32:56.2
akin tumitira. Tangina,
32:58.2
hindi na rin sila makabayad kasi
33:00.2
nawalan sila bigla ng kliyente
33:02.2
because of COVID-19. So, sabay-sabay
33:04.2
yun to. Kaya siya mahirap
33:06.2
sakin eh. If isa lang yun,
33:08.2
if si MG lang yung nag-demanda sakin, okay lang eh.
33:10.2
Kaso nandun pa si Jonah.
33:14.2
So alam mo yun,
33:16.2
So talagang, ano yung...
33:18.2
So after
33:20.2
the shock, anong...
33:22.2
Describe the
33:24.2
first three hours
33:26.2
after getting...
33:28.2
Nanginginig ako. Hindi ako
33:30.2
makapagsalita. As in,
33:32.2
alam mo yung ano...
33:34.2
Paano yung birthday celebration mo? Anong nangyari?
33:36.2
Wala. Chinicheer up ako nung ex ko nun.
33:38.2
Hindi, okay lang yan. Kaya mo yan. Tapos nakikita
33:40.2
niya ano. Buti nga nandun siya eh.
33:42.2
Kasi para i-comfort ako.
33:44.2
Pero, alam mo yun,
33:46.2
hindi namin
33:48.2
inimagine na
33:50.2
aabot dun. For some reason,
33:52.2
fuck man, inaano ko ba kayo?
33:54.2
I mean, eto rin yung ginagawa nyo
33:56.2
essentially. Sumasagot lang ako sa inyo.
33:58.2
Diba? Ano yung pinaka...
34:00.2
Ano yung pinaka...
34:02.2
Pinaka kinagalit nila to
34:04.2
push them into... What exactly
34:06.2
was it? Kasi ano yan.
34:08.2
Siguro, i-explain ko sa'yo yung
34:10.2
points nung dinemanda nila.
34:12.2
So after nun,
34:14.2
kasi ang nakakatakot pa dun,
34:16.2
pag bukas ko nung sabi na,
34:18.2
nakamiss na ako ng hearings.
34:20.2
Dalawa na.
34:22.2
So, pag hindi ako nag-lawyer up
34:24.2
nun,
34:26.2
pag hindi ako nag-lawyer up
34:28.2
nun,
34:30.2
aakyat yung libel. Yung cyber libel.
34:32.2
Yun kasi yung pinakadelikade.
34:34.2
Kasi dalawa yung kinaso nila sa'kin.
34:36.2
So, apat na kaso yun
34:38.2
for each of them. Sorry,
34:40.2
si cyber libel at saka
34:42.2
unjust vixation. Kung si MG
34:44.2
lang yun, okay lang. I can
34:46.2
accept. Pero kay Joe na
34:48.2
ako gulat na gulat.
34:50.2
Why?
34:52.2
Kasi hindi naman ikaw yung focus
34:54.2
nung mga debunks ko. Si MG, kami
34:56.2
dalawa yung naglalaban.
34:58.2
Kahit hanggang ngayon,
35:00.2
pag pinag-usapan to,
35:02.2
parang MG case talaga.
35:04.2
It's an MG case.
35:06.2
Nalilimutan si Jonah.
35:08.2
Kasi hindi naman ako galit kay Jonah.
35:10.2
Actually, totoo lang,
35:14.2
I was never,
35:16.2
never akong nagalit sa kanya.
35:18.2
Natatawa ko sa kanya, pero never akong
35:20.2
nagalit kay Jonah.
35:22.2
If he does not do drama,
35:24.2
hindi ko siya papansinin. Do what you want.
35:26.2
Do your pranks,
35:28.2
do your MVs,
35:30.2
do your
35:32.2
flex ng kotse. I don't care.
35:34.2
Do your shit, man. Kasi kung tang creator ka,
35:36.2
nagingintindihan kita. At one point
35:38.2
in time, I was
35:40.2
passionate enough to understand you.
35:42.2
Ngayon kasi, I don't anymore.
35:44.2
Parang nakita ko siya na parang
35:46.2
sunod-sunuran lang ng mga
35:48.2
sa ginagawa ni MG.
35:50.2
Which is
35:52.2
sobrang nakakadisappointing.
35:54.2
I'm telling you, if isang
35:56.2
kaso lang yun, okay lang. Kaming dalawa
35:58.2
ni MG, hanggang sa dulo ng walang hanggang.
36:00.2
Pero hindi eh. Kasama si Jonah
36:02.2
doon sa kaso.
36:04.2
So ang tigin mo kay Jonah, parang
36:06.2
almost parang saling
36:08.2
ketket. Bakit nandyan ka?
36:10.2
Parang tag team.
36:12.2
Oo, yung ginawa sa akin.
36:14.2
That's why people don't really realize
36:16.2
kung gano'ng kabigat yung ginawa nila sa akin.
36:18.2
Essentially, it's damming someone
36:20.2
for half a million pesos.
36:22.2
Yung kailangan kong ilabas noon.
36:24.2
Which is wala sa akin noong mga panahon na yun, Tol.
36:26.2
Kailangan kong kumuha ng
36:28.2
abogado noon. Where would I get the money
36:30.2
to get private lawyers?
36:32.2
Was there ever
36:34.2
a chance na parang
36:36.2
mag-settle kayo?
36:38.2
Gusto niya 4 million pesos eh.
36:40.2
What the f**k?
36:41.0
4 million to settle the case?
36:43.0
Gumawa ba siya ng video doon?
36:46.0
Meron, oo.
36:46.8
Kay Kit Talens, na kasama niya si Kit Talens,
36:49.8
gusto niya daw nabayaran niya yung mga nagasto sa akin.
36:53.0
Kasi apparently, the guy was spying on me.
36:56.0
Sino?
36:57.0
Apparently, parang meron niya ata siyang mga,
37:01.0
parang yung mga,
37:03.0
kasi kilala niya yung ex ko eh, yung pangalan ng ex ko eh.
37:06.5
Nagulat ako eh, kasi I've never mentioned the name of my ex.
37:10.0
Or the name of my daughter.
37:12.0
Never.
37:13.0
Never kong sinabi yun sa kahit anong videos ko.
37:15.0
Nagulat ako, alam niya kung saan nakatira.
37:17.0
Wow.
37:18.0
Alam niya kung ano kung...
37:19.0
Nagulat ako eh.
37:21.0
Alam niya kung saan ako exactly nakatira, kung saan street.
37:25.0
Nagulat ako.
37:26.0
So pagkasabi ko, what the f**k man, alam niya yung poker history ko noon.
37:29.0
At during that time, hindi pa ako open sa pagpo-poker ko noon eh.
37:33.0
Parang it was sideline eh.
37:35.0
Kasi yung branding ko noon was just, you know, the debunks lang.
37:39.0
I'm the debunking guy eh.
37:41.0
I'm the guy na pag may trend man, de-debunk ako.
37:43.0
That's it.
37:44.0
Pero never, wala yung personal life ko.
37:47.0
He included that.
37:48.0
Yung iniwan ng asawa.
37:50.0
Nagulat din ako doon tol.
37:52.0
Kasi never akong kinasal.
37:53.0
Pero totoo, naghiwalay kami.
37:55.0
I was really surprised na alam niya lahat yun.
37:58.0
Baka may nakilala siyang kaibigan mo?
38:01.0
Yeah.
38:02.0
Miski nga yung si ano, si...
38:04.0
Si ano, si...
38:06.0
Yung matanda noon.
38:07.0
Nagulat din ako kasi he knows the ex of my ex.
38:10.0
Nagulat ako, how did this guy know?
38:13.0
Bakit?
38:14.0
Paano nila nalaman to?
38:16.0
Kasi nung nagpa-viral ako,
38:18.0
the first thing I did was I hid everything from the public.
38:22.0
Yung from 2018 onwards, pababa.
38:26.0
Pinago ko lahat yun.
38:27.0
Naka-private lahat yun.
38:29.0
Yung pictures ng anak ko, naka-private lahat.
38:31.0
Pero somehow he knows.
38:33.0
Nagulat ako eh.
38:34.0
Nagulat, nagulat ako doon eh.
38:35.0
May mga, madali naman kasing ano,
38:37.0
syempre may mga kakilalak ha, may mga taong kilalak.
38:40.0
Bahala mo, yung kapit-bahay mo.
38:42.0
O nga.
38:43.0
Mg, kapit-bahay ako dito, dito na kasi rin eh.
38:45.0
Siguro, siguro meron nag-feed sa kanya.
38:48.0
O.
38:49.0
Tapos yung pilay din eh.
38:50.0
Hindi ko rin alam kung saan niya na ano.
38:52.0
Kasi, look man, nung sobrang taba ako,
38:55.0
nahirapan ako maglakad.
38:57.0
Kasi mataba ako.
38:58.0
Not because pilay ako.
38:59.0
Kasi mataba ako.
39:00.0
Yes, yes.
39:01.0
Diba, so...
39:02.0
Nagulat ako talaga.
39:04.0
So, where is this all coming from?
39:06.0
Tapos, alam mo yun,
39:08.0
nung lumabas yung demanda,
39:11.0
doon na siya nagsalita na nagsalita eh.
39:13.0
Talagang rinatrat niya ako ng live,
39:15.0
rinatrat niya ako ng post noon.
39:17.0
Ah, wala akong magawa eh.
39:19.0
Kasi, gulat na gulat ako eh.
39:21.0
Shocked ako noon eh.
39:22.0
Parang akong nasuntok sa likod ng ulo.
39:24.0
Tapos, ah, after na,
39:26.0
siguro after three days,
39:28.0
umupo na ako.
39:29.0
Sabi ko, I need to lawyer up.
39:30.0
So, dumating yung unang set ng abugado ko.
39:33.0
Eto yung kailangan namin.
39:34.0
Magkano?
39:35.0
So, nakatawad pa ako.
39:37.0
Tapos, ayan na,
39:38.0
dito, dito,
39:39.0
ang unang unang tumulong sa akin,
39:41.0
si Doc Adam.
39:43.0
Si Doc Adam talaga.
39:45.0
As in from...
39:46.0
Doc Adam, oo.
39:47.0
Ah, siya lagi yung kausap ko for about a week.
39:49.0
Araw-araw tinatawagan niya ako, bro.
39:51.0
As in, pagkagising ko,
39:53.0
Niko, kamusta?
39:54.0
Tapos tatawagan niya ako.
39:56.0
Alam mo kung bakit?
39:57.0
Bakit?
39:58.0
Sabi niya sa akin,
39:59.0
Niko, you're, you're showing,
40:01.0
you're showing signs of a,
40:04.0
of something wrong.
40:06.0
Kasi siyempre, doktor siya.
40:07.0
Eto yung dinaranasan mo, Niko.
40:09.0
So, alam niya,
40:11.0
tinutulungan niya ako dun sa proseso.
40:13.0
So, alam mo yun,
40:14.0
dahan-dahan yun eh.
40:15.0
Dahan-dahan yung proseso na yun eh.
40:16.0
Tapos, of course, ako nun,
40:18.0
I wasn't getting better dun sa health ko.
40:21.0
I was eating more.
40:23.0
Kasi yun yung ano ko eh,
40:24.0
yung fixation ko eh.
40:25.0
Pag stress ako,
40:26.0
stress eating ako agad.
40:27.0
Kain na ako marami.
40:29.0
So, lumaki pa ako lalo.
40:30.0
Diba?
40:31.0
Nakita mo naman yun, diba?
40:32.0
Lumaki pa ako lalo.
40:33.0
Tapos,
40:34.0
I needed the money then.
40:36.0
So, paano gagawin ko?
40:37.0
All I have right now there
40:39.0
is yung poker ko,
40:40.0
which is matagal ko pa
40:41.0
makukuha yung pera.
40:42.0
And yung,
40:43.0
wala akong tenant nun.
40:45.0
Tapos,
40:47.0
the only thing I have going for me,
40:49.0
ironically, was YouTube.
40:51.0
Yun lang eh.
40:52.0
Wala nang iba, pare.
40:53.0
So, what do I do?
40:54.0
So, yun nga,
40:55.0
sabi ko,
40:56.0
kailangan ko na yata
40:57.0
gumawa ng paraan.
40:58.0
That's when the,
41:00.0
the work started.
41:02.0
Kada may issue, pasok.
41:04.0
Kada issue, pasok.
41:05.0
Issue, pasok.
41:06.0
Issue, pasok.
41:07.0
Para consistent yung kinikita ko.
41:09.0
Kailang,
41:10.0
I was even thinking of
41:12.0
applying sa trabaho eh.
41:14.0
Para dalawa yung income ko.
41:16.0
Para mabayaran ko yung abogado ko.
41:18.0
Kasi, people don't realize how much,
41:21.0
kung gaano kahirap yung abogado.
41:23.0
Kung gaano kamahal yung mga abogado.
41:26.0
Sabi ko,
41:28.0
sabi nila sa akin ganoon,
41:29.0
hindi ka pwedeng makakuha
41:30.0
ng private lawyer,
41:31.0
ah, ng public defendant.
41:32.0
Kasi hindi ka tatanggapin.
41:33.0
Alam kasi na
41:34.0
nag-YouTube ka.
41:35.0
So,
41:36.0
or matatagalan pa yan.
41:37.0
So,
41:38.0
sa amin na.
41:39.0
So, I have to come up with the money.
41:41.0
Swerte ako,
41:42.0
si Kong, pare.
41:43.0
Min-message ako ni Kong,
41:44.0
ah,
41:45.0
Boss Nico, ano yung BDO account mo?
41:47.0
Send me 50,000 pesos.
41:49.0
Tangina, tol.
41:50.0
I was really crying din.
41:52.0
Naiyak ako eh.
41:53.0
Sabi ko, tangina,
41:54.0
bubait pala na tao sa YouTube.
41:56.0
So, it was Doc Adam and Kong.
41:58.0
Sila lang yung parang naging ano ko.
42:00.0
Ang sabi lang sa akin ni Kong noon,
42:02.0
Boss, ah,
42:03.0
ah,
42:04.0
huwag mo na lang.
42:05.0
Actually, I broke my promise eh.
42:07.0
Pero, ah,
42:08.0
kasi tapos na.
42:09.0
Huwag mo nang banggitin sa ano.
42:10.0
So, for two years,
42:11.0
hindi ko binanggit yun.
42:12.0
Ngayon ko lang binabanggit.
42:13.0
Diba?
42:14.0
Natumulong sa akin si Kong.
42:15.0
Kasi si MG,
42:16.0
kasi sinasabi niya na
42:17.0
in-unfriend daw ako ni Kong.
42:18.0
Hindi totoo yun, tol.
42:19.0
Kong was really there for me.
42:21.0
Yung Team Payaman,
42:22.0
sila-sila,
42:23.0
they were really,
42:24.0
alam mo yun,
42:25.0
pag nag-message ako sa kanila,
42:26.0
sasagot sila.
42:27.0
Sila Josh Pint,
42:28.0
diba?
42:29.0
Alam mo yan.
42:30.0
Yun, tapos,
42:31.0
ah,
42:32.0
slow, slow yung process eh.
42:33.0
So, eto yung tatlong points
42:35.0
noong case na ginawa nila sa akin.
42:37.0
I made a lot of videos sa kanila.
42:39.0
Pero yung tatlong ginamit nila sa akin,
42:42.0
kay Jonah,
42:43.0
ah,
42:44.0
yung online,
42:45.0
on, ah,
42:46.0
death of online rambulan,
42:48.0
isa yun yun,
42:49.0
ah,
42:50.0
yung Jonah Rins debunk,
42:51.0
at saka isang post.
42:52.0
Sa Facebook.
42:53.0
So, dalawang video kay Jonah,
42:55.0
ah,
42:56.0
yung Jonah Rins Jacob debunk,
42:58.0
at saka yung online,
42:59.0
ah,
43:00.0
the death of online rambulan.
43:01.0
Anong,
43:02.0
ibig,
43:03.0
anong, ah,
43:04.0
tungkol,
43:05.0
ano yung mga nasabi mo doon
43:06.0
sa video na yun?
43:07.0
Ah,
43:08.0
sa rambulan muna?
43:09.0
Sa rambulan muna,
43:10.0
doon yung may pangit.
43:11.0
Ah.
43:12.0
Yung mention na pangit.
43:13.0
Okay.
43:14.0
Yung word na yun.
43:15.0
Ah,
43:16.0
kinover namin yun sa,
43:17.0
sa,
43:18.0
sa kaso.
43:19.0
I'm not,
43:20.0
ah,
43:21.0
I'm not to quote here na
43:22.0
hindi ko sinasabi yung
43:23.0
pangit si Jonah.
43:24.0
Ah.
43:25.0
Ngayon,
43:26.0
hindi ko sinasabi yun.
43:27.0
Kinoquote ko yung sa kaso.
43:28.0
Ah.
43:29.0
Just to be clear.
43:30.0
Okay.
43:31.0
Just to be legal about it.
43:32.0
Tapos yung isa naman,
43:33.0
yung,
43:34.0
ah,
43:35.0
kasi isang point ng label,
43:36.0
you cannot accuse someone of
43:37.0
something criminal.
43:38.0
Ah.
43:39.0
Kunyari,
43:40.0
ah,
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even yung allusion of murder,
43:43.0
you murdered,
43:44.0
ah,
43:45.0
you murdered the something.
43:46.0
Ah.
43:47.0
Hindi rin pwede.
43:48.0
Ganon kahikpit yung,
43:49.0
ganon kanipis.
43:50.0
Mm-hmm.
43:51.0
Yung label loss dito sa Pilipinas.
43:52.0
Mm-hmm.
43:53.0
Tapos yung isa naman,
43:54.0
yung minura ko siya
43:55.0
about kay Carla,
43:56.0
ah,
43:57.0
yung sa,
43:58.0
yung sa asawa niya.
43:59.0
Parang,
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kasi nga,
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kung meron kasi siyang video
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na ginawa,
44:03.0
na parang ina-accuse nyo
44:04.0
si Carla na,
44:05.0
na,
44:06.0
ano,
44:07.0
na basta pinaprank niya
44:08.0
yung magnanakaw prank.
44:09.0
Mm-hmm.
44:10.0
Tapos umiyak si Carla.
44:11.0
Yung,
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ginawan ko ng post yun.
44:13.0
So yun yung tatlong points
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nung kay,
44:15.0
ano,
44:16.0
kay Jonah.
44:17.0
Mm-hmm.
44:18.0
And,
44:19.0
everything na sinabi nila,
44:20.0
I am just,
44:21.0
ah,
44:22.0
reacting to it.
44:23.0
Keds.
44:24.0
Mm-hmm.
44:25.0
Hindi ko sila ginawa ng storya.
44:26.0
There wasn't any malicious intent.
44:28.0
Mm-hmm.
44:29.0
So,
44:30.0
ah,
44:31.0
yun yung napag-usapan namin
44:32.0
ng mga abogado.
44:33.0
So, goods na yun.
44:34.0
So,
44:35.0
eto na yung,
44:36.0
ano,
44:37.0
eto na yung,
44:38.0
ah,
44:39.0
ah,
44:40.0
ang tawag doon?
44:41.0
Defense.
44:42.0
Eh,
44:43.0
sinet na yung defense namin.
44:44.0
Mm-hmm.
44:45.0
Kasi ito lang mahal talaga.
44:46.0
Mm-hmm.
44:47.0
And mamaya sasabihin ko sa iyo
44:48.0
yung,
44:49.0
grand makagago,
44:50.0
di ba?
44:51.0
Dalawang point doon,
44:52.0
at saka isang,
44:53.0
ah,
44:54.0
dalawang Facebook post.
44:55.0
Mm-hmm.
44:56.0
So,
44:57.0
kay Jonah,
44:58.0
dalawang video,
44:59.0
isang Facebook post.
45:00.0
Kay,
45:01.0
kay MG naman,
45:02.0
isang Facebook,
45:03.0
ah,
45:04.0
isang Facebook,
45:05.0
ah,
45:06.0
dalawang,
45:07.0
isang video may dalawang post,
45:08.0
at saka dalawang Facebook post.
45:09.0
Mm-hmm.
45:10.0
So,
45:11.0
bale,
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six in total
45:13.0
lahat ng points
45:14.0
ng labels nila sakin.
45:15.0
So,
45:16.0
for each point,
45:17.0
ah,
45:18.0
12,
45:19.0
ah,
45:20.0
18,
45:21.0
plus 18.
45:22.0
So,
45:23.0
18 times,
45:24.0
ah,
45:25.0
times 3,
45:26.0
ah,
45:27.0
times 2.
45:28.0
So,
45:29.0
we're looking at 36 years
45:30.0
in prison
45:31.0
kapag ka,
45:32.0
hindi ko,
45:33.0
ano,
45:34.0
ano.
45:35.0
Talaga?
45:36.0
Oo!
45:37.0
Kasi kada point,
45:38.0
isa eh.
45:39.0
Mm-hmm.
45:40.0
Kung,
45:41.0
kung yung isa.
45:42.0
Ad-ad doon,
45:43.0
di ba?
45:44.0
Ad-ad doon.
45:45.0
Parang si,
45:46.0
mga pope
45:47.0
itong mga to eh,
45:48.0
or mga,
45:49.0
ah,
45:50.0
alam mo,
45:51.0
active member
45:52.0
ng El Shaddai,
45:53.0
or ng,
45:54.0
ah,
45:55.0
mga mababa.
45:56.0
Mayorman lang,
45:57.0
di ba?
45:58.0
Oo,
45:59.0
mga banal na tao.
46:00.0
Ah,
46:01.0
I see.
46:02.0
Or,
46:03.0
yung mga may,
46:04.0
yung mga may moral,
46:05.0
yung,
46:06.0
yung mataas yung moralidad nila.
46:07.0
Oo,
46:08.0
I see.
46:09.0
Kaso,
46:10.0
hindi naman ganun eh.
46:11.0
May mga ginagawa din silang
46:12.0
morally questionable eh,