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This is the Powerful Comics Man Podcast
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and I am with the very powerful
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Hello, hello, hello, Gerald. Wow.
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I've never been called powerful ever in my life.
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So I feel empowered.
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Thank you, Gerald. Thank you.
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Yo, so to everybody.
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Well, Reb is an actor.
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Actually, like probably most people
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I have known about you because of
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Ang Huling El Bimbo, right?
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When it was shown on YouTube
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during the pandemic, right?
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So you starred in Ang Huling El Bimbo.
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But I really became a fan of him
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when I started seeing him on TikTok.
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So I'm really loving the content that you do there
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being somebody who also tries to
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make an effort to create content
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that's a little bit more deep
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and not afraid to be serious sometimes.
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And still try to be entertaining, right?
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So I don't even know where to start.
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So maybe we can start on you being an actor first.
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You know, the funny thing is
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a lot of the things that I do
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on TikTok or social media
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I get from the discipline I learned as an actor.
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I'm a theater actor, so my training is different.
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The schedules are very, very different.
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I go to rehearsals every single day.
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And then, you know, you'd rehearse
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and do the same thing over and over and over again
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until you get it show-ready, right?
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And then once you're doing the show already
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that's the gift that you have for the audience, right?
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So you work on something over and over again
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You continue chipping away at it
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continuously until one day
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you're done, you're ready, right?
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And then move on to the next one
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and then repeat the process over and over again.
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That's the same mentality that I have
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with creating content.
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You know, it's a process
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that I have to do over and over again
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to get better and better at it.
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So yeah, that's pretty much it.
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I started doing this also very early.
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Not very early compared to other people.
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I started acting at 17.
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Yeah, I started acting at 17.
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And it's been quite a ride.
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I've been doing it for almost half my life now.
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And I started it on a dare.
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Really? How? Tell us about that.
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Okay, so I was in college
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and there's recruitment week
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for orgs in school, in college.
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And then I was told...
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It's looking at all the booths, right?
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I was a sophomore.
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And my friend was like,
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I dare you to sign up.
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And I go, yeah, okay.
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But what the hell is this?
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Which college is this again?
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I was like, what the hell is this?
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And then he goes,
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you sing, I know you sing.
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So yeah, just do it.
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It's called musical theater.
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I literally just took three seconds
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to look at him and go,
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I signed up and the rest is history.
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I fell in love with it.
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So you've always been a performer
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Yeah, I've always been
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in front of a crowd
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for more than half my...
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for half my life.
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So yeah, but early on,
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the beginnings of my life,
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I was very, very shy.
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You couldn't get me to sing
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or talk in front of people.
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So it's a development
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that happened later on,
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you know, when I gained confidence.
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Do you have a pivotal moment
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Because I was also
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And then when I was
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in third year high school,
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I became part of the band,
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of a high school band.
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That's pretty much it for me too.
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you know, my story is
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because we were already playing,
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it was the freshman orientation thing.
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when the intro is playing,
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you know, I was really listening.
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You know, I don't know.
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I was also somewhat,
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like, just there,
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Because their vocalist
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had already graduated, right?
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So I was going to replace him, right?
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So now, it's like, wow.
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Now, what happened,
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after the first line,
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after I sang the first line of the song,
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you know, I literally felt something
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like something was pulling me
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It's like a veil being lifted.
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100% ready to learn
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is don't do it on guitar.
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And I said, okay, so this is fun.
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And then one day,
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I'll never forget that.
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I was in third-year high school.
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I was 15 years old.
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And my AP teacher,
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my haraling palimpunan teacher said,
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Balita ako tumutugtog ka
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tsaka kumakanta ka.
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And she made me sing in front of class.
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something just happened.
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I just said yes for some reason.
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I just won the haraling panlipunan
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quizbee earlier that day.
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when I went to class,
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hapon yung period namin ng AP,
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So I remember singing
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That's what I sang
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in front of everybody.
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all the nervousness,
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it's still there,
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but it was bringing me
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And throughout my entire career,
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that nervousness has been
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a friend of mine,
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that nervous energy is something
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that I've been able to harness
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other performances.
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officially get into
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In the real theater.
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I started performing
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professional acting job,
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in this play called
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that was my debut,
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Philippine theater.
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that's how it started.
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it's been going on since.
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Ang Huling El Bimbo,
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in that production?
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kasi I think this is,
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kasi I think this is,
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probably one of the most
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in the mainstream,
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Ang Huling El Bimbo is one.
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mas alam pa nga natin yung,
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productions from,
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like Miss Saigon,
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we have actors playing,
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parts in those productions.
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Pero yung locally made,
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you are part of it.
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can you tell us about that project?
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That will forever be a blessing,
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because that's the most successful thing,
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that I've ever been a part of,
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a lot of original Filipino material,
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especially when it comes to theater,
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mainstream success,
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and we were blessed enough,
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the discography of the Eraserheads,
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to be able to use that discography,
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I always have some,
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moments in my life,
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when it comes to like,
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a production also,
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with the same company,
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a production called,
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Chitty Chitty Bang Bang,
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and one afternoon,
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you guys want to read a script?
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We're trying to develop,
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I found out it was Eraserheads,
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it went on the shelf,
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me to read again.
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and a couple of other people,
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we were invited to read.
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what does it mean to read?
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you are given the script,
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you do the scenes,
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you read the play,
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you read through the play.
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I read for the part of Hector.
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one more reading after that,
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it became the reading audition na.
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the people in that room,
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lahat ng nag-audition sa kwartong yun,
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they were already familiar,
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with those people.
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we were already working in the same industry,
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and things like that.
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the lead characters,
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Kung ano yung gusto nilang look,
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After that reading audition,
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and this is where the pivotal moment is,
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the day I ended my six-year-long relationship,
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is the same day that I got the role.
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it's like a pivotal moment,
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over a pivotal moment,
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over a pivotal moment.
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that's how I got the role.
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I got the call after,
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that's how I got to do Ang Huling El Bimbo.
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the commercial success that we owe to,
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the creators of the show,
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and the brilliant discography of the Eraserheads.
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it's a once-in-a-lifetime ride
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that I will forever enjoy.
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one thing about the
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yung Huling El Bimbo kasi,
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yung spoilers siguro,
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spoiler alert siguro,
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I really loved it.
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the best thing about Huling El Bimbo is,
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yung emotions na mararamdaman ko
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I would have to say,
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parang yung criticism ko dun is,
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I wasn't really happy with the ending.
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pero the brilliant,
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the brilliant part
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nung Huling El Bimbo,
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You hear the soundtrack of your life,
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and then you see a lot of optimism.
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being in college.
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people from my generation,
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those are my college and high school days.
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biglang meron isang
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malipit na twist.
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where the hell did that come from?
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dun sa mga hindi nanonood na mga play,
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merong parang magpapahinga muna.
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so that's what it's called.
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yung intermission nga,
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we don't know what's gonna happen,
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We don't know what's gonna happen.
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parang you were taken,
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parang ansaya-saya mo,
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bigla kang sinapak,
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tapos knock out ka.
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giving way too much
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ang pinakang di ko na gusto,
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siguro dun sa ending is,
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You didn't get the,
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you didn't get the,
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what would you call it?
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hindi basyadong na-redeem yung character,
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walang comeuppance.
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and that's the statement
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that it's trying to make as well.
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there are so many things
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that are unresolved,
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those are the things that happen.
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there are a lot of things
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that happen out there,
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that's the statement
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that it's trying to make.
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may kwento rin yan.
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it's also part of society.
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It's the ugly part of society.
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it's part of society.
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we can look at it,
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So that this doesn't happen again.
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That's exactly what it's trying to say.
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so you think it's,
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and the creators?
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When we were creating the show,
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we were all pretty much involved in it.
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the actors were very involved
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with the characters as well.
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when we were developing the show,
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that's the thing.
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it's catharsis by way of,
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catharsis by way of catharting,
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with those who are left.
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it's the ones we leave behind.
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what we can salvage.
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you have that in mind,
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when you were playing the,
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when we were creating the characters,
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we couldn't judge the characters.
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that's a no in acting.
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You can't judge your,
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your character as you're portraying your character.
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Because if you do,
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that would be suicide.
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you'd already be judging the character,
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which means you'll play him evil,
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or you'll play him like an asshole.
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evil people don't think they're evil.
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They're just assholes.
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it should be an involved process,
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where you really take in,
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kung anuman yung iniisip ng taong yun,
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kung anuman yung motivations nya.
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that's precisely what,
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what we had to do.
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I lost my camera.
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medyo ginalaw ko kasi eh.
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I'll try to fix it as we,
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what else about Huling El Bimbo?
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let's leave it at that.
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let's just leave,
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the people to watch it.
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kasi ngayon may bagong ano eh,
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they're looking for,
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It's coming back,
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it's coming back next year.
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And they have auditions.
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if you go to Full House Theater Manila,
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or Newport World Resorts,
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which is the new name of
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Resorts World Manila,
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Newport World Resorts.
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If you go to their site,
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their page on Facebook,
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the audition announcement is there.
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if you want to audition for
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Ang Huling El Bimbo 2023,
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I highly suggest you do it.
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being in that show is life-changing.
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the process that you have to go through
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to be able to come up with it,
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that's a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
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would you have any
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for your audition,
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you gotta know your songs,
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you gotta prepare yourself to dance.
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that's a very big part of the show
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most importantly,
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that you're about to experience,
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and these issues that you're about to tackle.
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about having an open mind
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and developing empathy
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as you go through the process.
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maybe one more question about,
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related to that is,
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after Huling El Bimbo,
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after the success
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the Rock Up AGs came first,
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the Rock Up AGs came first.
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the Rock Up AGs came first.
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I think they're writing something,
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it's very exciting,
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it's a very exciting time,
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the more Filipino content,
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that's out there,
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I suppose that's fine,
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It will all depend,
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at the end of the day,
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it will all depend on the story
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and the execution,
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which I think is,
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the Filipinos are quite,
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because I watched the others,
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the ones I only watched that were played,
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because admittedly,
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I'm not really a,
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a good videographer,
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to watch the other films there before.
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the productions in the fellows there,
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production I've seen,
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the one where I've seen,
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when they came here,
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When I saw the Lion King video on YouTube before,
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it's ano eh, parang wow, ang ganda naman ito, di ba?
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So when they came over, parang I really made it a point to watch it.
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I want to experience.
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Yun nga lang, nandu kami sa taas kasi ang mahal ng tickets eh.
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So hindi mo makikita.
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That's okay, ganon din ako.
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So di ba, kasi yung entrance scene nun, yung Lion King, was really something else.
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It's the best. It's the best opening of anything.
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Any movie or musical, it's just the best opening.
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No question. It's the hands down circle of life.
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Yes. Ang ganda, basta, pero nung nandu ka sa taas eh, liit na lang.
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But still, but still, but still, it was still an amazing experience for me.
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So let's move on to TikTok naman.
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Kasi actually, yun talaga yung pinakang, yung mga pinag-uusapan mo dun,
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those are the really things that I also talk about, di ba?
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And with my guest, although, kasi di ano eh,
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I tried doing this podcast solo before,
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and then I immediately found I wasn't that interesting alone.
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Well, at least back then.
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Kasi siguro ngayon, I'd be a little bit more interesting.
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I'd give myself that naman.
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Pero back then, back in mga three, four years ago, parang, parang,
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I wasn't, masyada pa akong hilaw.
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So what I did was, kasi ang template ko talaga before
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yung kay Joe Rogan Experience eh.
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May kausap ka, di ba? May kausap.
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And yung mga kausap mo would be different kinds of people
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from different disciplines.
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May kabatuhan ka.
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So I can do that. I can do that.
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So that's what I went for.
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And my ideal guest would be people like you, mga intellectuals, di ba?
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Actually, nagulat din ako the first time I was called that, di ba?
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And the same person who told me that I was an intellectual
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was Professor Xiao Chua, di ba?
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Wow. That's awesome.
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Intellectual pala ako.
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Well, kasi parang we are doing this,
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and I'm not saying it to grandstanders
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or parang lift my own chair or anything.
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It's just that it made me realize that you can be an intellectual
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Kasi intellectual is sometimes relate...
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Yeah, make a scholar or something.
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Or to elitism, di ba?
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You can intellectualize things
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without even having to go to universities and earn diplomas for it.
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As long as you're willing to...
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They did that during Greek times.
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People would just listen to these philosophers talk on the street
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and open their minds to it.
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As long as you're willing to listen
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and as long as you have your ego in check,
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you can learn forever and ever and ever.
27:28.8
Yun yung ego in check.
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That's what's important.
27:34.8
Parang, what's it called?
27:41.8
It's about being able to say,
27:47.8
That's the Socratic method, di ba?
27:49.8
Being able to admit that you don't know everything.
27:51.8
You don't know anything.
27:52.8
Always assume that you don't know anything.
27:57.8
That's the starting point, I think,
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of learning, di ba?
28:04.8
And you can say that you don't know, di ba?
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And when you say you don't know,
28:11.8
you're always correct, di ba?
28:14.8
Di ko talaga alam, eh.
28:17.8
True wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
28:22.8
I subscribe to that.
28:24.8
That's what they said about...
28:27.8
Kaya daw laging panalo sa debate si Socrates
28:35.8
Yes, because pag hindi niya alams,
28:38.8
While his opponent would keep claiming things
28:41.8
na hindi naman talaga niya sure.
28:43.8
And it's always questions, questions, questions.
28:46.8
You make them question their assumptions.
28:51.8
Well, there's nothing wrong about pursuing
28:53.8
and assuming things, di ba?
28:55.8
But there would also come a time that you need to admit
28:59.8
na maybe hindi ko talaga alam, di ba?
29:03.8
It's healthy to question your assumptions.
29:05.8
It's healthy to question your worldview sometimes.
29:08.8
It's very healthy.
29:09.8
You know, to be skeptical.
29:13.8
That's different.
29:14.8
To be skeptical, di ba?
29:17.8
Kasi skeptical, if you're skeptical about something,
29:20.8
di ba, you're wondering,
29:25.8
And then you research on it.
29:26.8
And then you find material on it.
29:29.8
And then you can actually say that,
29:31.8
okay, I was proven wrong.
29:33.8
If you're cynical, no matter what the evidence is,
29:36.8
you're going to keep saying you're right.
29:38.8
So that's the difference.
29:41.8
So it's healthy to be skeptical from time to time.
29:46.8
Especially with how today's information is spread, di ba?
29:53.8
We always have to keep an eye on our biases.
29:59.8
Let me just try to fix my camera real quick.
30:04.8
Guys, let me just...
30:06.8
Parang nanghihinayang kasi ako that I do not have the camera.
30:11.8
Let me just fix it real quick on Discord.
30:14.8
For some reason, kasi...
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I bought this fancy camera,
30:20.8
and yun nga lang, it's too early.
30:31.8
I got it from a Kickstarter.
30:37.8
What number is it?
30:38.8
Lumina something, Lumina.
30:47.8
No, I can see you.
30:49.8
I saw your sample because I'm looking at your Discord,
30:52.8
but it's not broadcasting.
30:54.8
Let me try again.
30:56.8
Let me try again.
30:59.8
Nadasalan natin yan.
31:01.8
Nadasalan natin yan.
31:03.8
We're going to call on the gods of technology.
31:07.8
The gods of podcasting.
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Yes, and Discord.
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The gods of Discord.
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I can see your face.
31:15.8
Kailangan natin ng...
31:22.8
Yes, exactly that.
31:28.8
Yes, Lumina camera.
31:29.8
It's still not working, man.
31:31.8
Teka, I'm going to...
31:33.8
Pag umalis ako dito, ano mangyayari?
31:37.8
I think mag-end yung live.
31:40.8
Let me just try this once again.
31:44.8
I can entertain you.
31:47.8
I can juggle if you want.
31:51.8
Yan, yan, yan, yan.
31:58.8
We're back in business.
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Let's resume the...
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Uy, pumunta dito sa kabila.
32:09.8
Kaya nakakahinayang, e.
32:10.8
Diba? Sa ano ba yan?
32:12.8
Parang palpak yung ginawa.
32:13.8
Kasi I have guests nga in the studio.
32:17.8
Anyway, we are back.
32:22.8
You mentioned kanina that...
32:27.8
Parang TikTok has become a battleground, e.
32:34.8
Ideas and now ideologies.
32:40.8
It's actually quite fascinating and at the same time terrifying
32:46.8
how it has become a battleground.
32:48.8
You know, you have people who claim to know something
32:53.8
and if some people don't agree with it,
32:57.8
out comes the demons that are within.
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It's just a battle of I know better than you
33:05.8
and you're an idiot.
33:07.8
It's very frustrating.
33:09.8
I'll be honest with you.
33:10.8
It's very frustrating.
33:11.8
But also, the reason why I do it is
33:14.8
for kahit isang comment lang out of those millions
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or thousands of comments that you see on TikTok,
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if there's like one comment that's for me
33:22.8
and they're saying thank you that they learned something new,
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that's why I do it.
33:27.8
That's the mission that I have anyway.
33:30.8
That's what I wanted to do when I started it.
33:34.8
What do you think about...
33:37.8
Ang isang nakikita ko kasing problema especially in our society is
33:43.8
actually nabangkit ko na nga kanina parang
33:46.8
even people who are in the position to
33:51.8
yung mga celebrities natin,
33:54.8
sometimes yung mga even those who are
33:57.8
who people think na parang matalina tong taong to, di ba?
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Parang they're so...
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I would call even...
34:07.8
di ko alam if they're afraid or just really hesitant
34:10.8
na parang every good idea gets dumbed down a little bit
34:18.8
para parang they have this notion,
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at least to me, ganoon nang dating sa akin,
34:22.8
na parang you'll have to dump things down a little bit
34:30.8
tawag dito magbigay ka ng...
34:33.8
to talk about something.
34:35.8
For the idea to come across.
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Hindi naman dapat i-dumb down.
34:40.8
Kasi may iba, di ba?
34:47.8
I totally get that.
34:49.8
But then, I also have to embrace the fact
34:52.8
as a content creator,
34:53.8
I also have to embrace the fact that
34:56.8
I also have to speak the audience's language.
34:59.8
So, it's a matter of compromising with that.
35:03.8
Without compromising, of course,
35:05.8
Ba there's a skill.
35:08.8
I like to say you know...
35:12.8
Trying to personalize content for me is really a challenge.
35:27.8
For me personalization is a challenge
35:29.8
because it's more of a touch.
35:31.8
But, yeah, most of the time,
35:33.8
Para makuha yung concept.
35:35.8
So it's not really dumbing it down for me.
35:38.8
It's just speaking the language that might aid in understanding.
35:44.8
But the concepts are still Socrates.
35:46.8
The concepts are still World War II.
35:48.8
So it's a matter of give and take.
35:51.8
And if, and this is my favorite part,
35:53.8
when somebody doesn't understand something, for example,
35:58.8
And that's my favorite thing.
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Because ang dahilan naman kung bakit ako nag-start
36:03.8
is to spark curiosity, to spark questions.
36:07.8
That's precisely it.
36:09.8
Because I want people to start thinking for themselves
36:12.8
and to start thinking in general.
36:15.8
So when they ask questions
36:17.8
and I provoke that question through my content,
36:20.8
that's a good day in the office.
36:22.8
So yeah, that's how I see it.
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I think there's a difference naman in dumbing down
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and also being entertaining.
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Putting an effort to make it entertaining.
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Diba? Magkaiba naman yan.
36:36.8
We can be entertaining without.
36:39.8
Kasi minsan lalagyan mo ng jokes na,
36:41.8
yung nakikita ko kasi parang lalagyan nilang jokes na.
36:45.8
I can't come up with an example right now
36:48.8
but I see it most of the time.
36:51.8
And sometimes babarahin ka.
36:53.8
Makikita mo dati sa mga live talk shows dati.
36:57.8
I remember a host before
36:59.8
na parang meron siyang intellectual take.
37:02.8
Showbiz talk show to eh.
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Nung uso pa yung mga showbiz talk show.
37:06.8
May intellectual take si Boy Abunda eh.
37:08.8
Diba? Ang ganda nung punto niya eh.
37:10.8
And then yung kasama niya,
37:12.8
hindi ko na maalala kung sino.
37:16.8
Parang teka, nagsasalita ng mayroong punto na maganda siya.
37:21.8
And it was so, it was so parang too smart for that situation.
37:26.8
This show is not that smart parang ganun.
37:29.8
Either hindi niya naiintindihan talaga
37:32.8
or alam mo yun? I don't know.
37:34.8
It's all about not making it about you.
37:38.8
You are the presenter
37:40.8
but you are not the complete topic.
37:43.8
That's what you have to marry.
37:46.8
Yun yung timpla na tinatawag.
37:50.8
For example, if you want to be entertaining,
37:53.8
you can be entertaining without being offensive.
37:58.8
You can be entertaining while educating.
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And how do you do that?
38:04.8
For example, me, I put on an accent.
38:07.8
Or I put on a really dumb headband.
38:11.8
But still, these things are all about timpla.
38:17.8
Because at the end,
38:19.8
your antics cannot go in front of the message
38:23.8
that you're trying to say.
38:30.8
What is your process when you go doing these videos?
38:35.8
You said headbands pa.
38:38.8
So everything, how you look,
38:40.8
is pre-planned or at least thought about?
38:44.8
The educational videos,
38:46.8
I don't think about it that much.
38:48.8
The videos that I do, for example,
38:50.8
the collaborations and then I have to do a skit,
38:53.8
yun, mga pinag-iisipan ko yun.
38:55.8
Or sometimes, it's just a spur-of-the-moment thing.
38:57.8
Most of the time, if it's the content that's educational,
39:05.8
I write down everything.
39:08.8
But when it's, for example,
39:10.8
I have a script or something like that,
39:14.8
I still ad-lib a lot.
39:16.8
Especially when the moment calls for it,
39:19.8
na parang I say a word,
39:21.8
and then immediately I think of,
39:23.8
hey, that sounds like a funny word.
39:25.8
So I'll make a joke about it.
39:27.8
I'll make a pun out of it.
39:29.8
So the creative process,
39:34.8
Kahit na meron kang template,
39:36.8
you can still play around with it.
39:38.8
So that's what I do when I create content.
39:41.8
What do you think hooked up your audience
39:48.8
That's a great question.
39:50.8
So how I started kasi,
39:52.8
the reason why I started TikTok is this.
39:54.8
Again, I was being dared.
39:56.8
Do TikTok! Do TikTok!
39:57.8
And I don't dance.
39:59.8
The first thing I said, di ako sumasayaw.
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I can when I want to,
40:05.8
but I don't do it to...
40:09.8
I don't ever see myself doing that.
40:11.8
Not that that's degrading for me,
40:15.8
I don't think that's degrading.
40:17.8
People are just having fun.
40:19.8
It's just not me.
40:21.8
So that's what I was saying.
40:25.8
Because of that whole thing,
40:28.8
I looked at TikTok for fun,
40:30.8
and then I saw a video of a person singing,
40:33.8
and then there's another person singing.
40:35.8
So it's a duet video.
40:37.8
So I was like, I can do that.
40:39.8
Now that I'm in the middle of the pandemic
40:41.8
and I'm not doing anything creative,
40:43.8
I don't have a creative outlet,
40:45.8
maybe I can do that.
40:46.8
So that's how I started.
40:48.8
And then one day,
40:49.8
I was also doing live streams back then.
40:52.8
One day, I was doing live,
40:53.8
and most of my audience,
40:55.8
along with my fiance,
40:57.8
And I asked them,
41:00.8
Yung ito yung kalagitnaan ng modules-modules.
41:04.8
And every single time I ask it,
41:06.8
everybody just goes,
41:08.8
I'm so sick of it.
41:10.8
I don't want to do it anymore.
41:11.8
I'm not learning anything.
41:12.8
Sayang lang yung binabayad.
41:14.8
And that's when it happened in my head.
41:20.8
So what if I used
41:22.8
my presentation skills that I picked up
41:24.8
from years of performing and hosting
41:26.8
and motivational speaking,
41:28.8
what if I use those skills
41:29.8
to make learning fun again?
41:31.8
Make learning fun
41:33.8
because it's only for the sake of learning.
41:35.8
It's not for a grade.
41:36.8
It's not to impress anybody.
41:37.8
It's really just,
41:38.8
hey, did you know?
41:42.8
And have people pick up new knowledge
41:49.8
within five minutes at the most.
41:52.8
If I could do that
41:54.8
and somehow that adds value
41:56.8
to somebody's day or somebody's life,
41:59.8
then that's fantastic.
42:01.8
So that's how it came about.
42:03.8
Yeah, so that's why I also
42:08.8
I think you are a unique
42:11.8
individual who, one,
42:15.8
to communicate the ideas,
42:17.8
the stories in a creative way,
42:19.8
and you also have
42:21.8
the innate interest
42:27.8
So you can't do...
42:29.8
You can't be effective
42:34.8
So you have all of the things
42:36.8
that would make you successful
42:39.8
in this and effective.
42:40.8
Not just successful.
42:41.8
And also, mas importante yung effective.
42:44.8
And well, your followers
42:48.8
And yeah, so that's why
42:52.8
there are people like you who...
42:55.8
Thank you very much.
42:56.8
And well, not that there's none.
42:59.8
Meron namang iba.
43:01.8
Pero you have a very unique way
43:03.8
of presenting it.
43:08.8
na may mga natututo.
43:13.8
And it makes me very happy
43:14.8
when people say that
43:16.8
they picked up something that day.
43:18.8
For me, that's a good thing.
43:20.8
Kasi like you said,
43:22.8
it's something that I picked up
43:24.8
early on and something
43:26.8
that I had to train to understand
43:28.8
to get to be able to present
43:29.8
and stuff like that.
43:31.8
I think that's also
43:33.8
a higher purpose for me.
43:35.8
To be able to do that
43:37.8
and to be able to
43:41.8
or to be able to give new knowledge
43:43.8
and using all of those things.
43:45.8
I've never been the guy
43:47.8
to pick up on a trend.
43:49.8
It's never been me.
43:53.8
It's not something
43:55.8
that I have ever done
43:58.8
If anything, I'm a very
44:02.8
I played The Witcher 3, which is my favorite
44:04.8
video game of all time.
44:05.8
I played The Witcher 3
44:07.8
and I think that was released in 2015.
44:09.8
I played it in 2018.
44:15.8
I played it in 2020.
44:17.8
I'm a very late adapter.
44:19.8
Unless it's a Marvel movie.
44:23.8
I don't ever see myself as a person
44:25.8
I have to know, I have to do this,
44:27.8
I have to do that.
44:29.8
That's a priority.
44:31.8
I'd rather let it sink in first
44:33.8
and then be like, I'll do it in my own time.
44:37.8
I've already processed it.
44:39.8
So that when I say it, it's crystallized.
44:41.8
It has a content and it's being developed.
44:47.8
You don't feel the pressure
44:49.8
of what's trending.
44:53.8
It also comes in handy
44:57.8
what you said, it will also
44:59.8
apply into current events
45:01.8
that there's something
45:11.8
YouTubers doing it first.
45:13.8
Since it's breaking
45:17.8
it's hot in the algorithm.
45:19.8
They're after the views.
45:23.8
To be honest, I've done that too.
45:29.8
I don't try to analyze
45:31.8
anything. I just present what's been
45:35.8
I just gather what's been reported
45:37.8
and then I present it.
45:39.8
That's all I want to do.
45:41.8
I don't try to analyze because again,
45:43.8
I'm operating under that idea that
45:45.8
I don't know anything yet.
45:47.8
I cannot claim to know anything
45:49.8
if I don't know the full story.
45:51.8
If it's a developing story, I don't know anything.
45:53.8
Why will I ever assume
45:55.8
that I know something
45:57.8
if I don't know it?
46:01.8
For me, it's that.
46:03.8
It's not really about the views
46:05.8
but more for the awareness.
46:07.8
If it gets a lot of views, great.
46:09.8
If it doesn't get views, it's fine.
46:11.8
I'll make another video.
46:13.8
I'll make the next video.
46:15.8
It's just getting it out there.
46:17.8
It's also a very helpful
46:21.8
It's easy to bring so I just want to talk.
46:25.8
That's the thing.
46:27.8
I totally get that.
46:31.8
There are a lot of content creators
46:35.8
just assume things
46:39.8
eventually they get burned
46:41.8
because what they're saying
46:43.8
is still premature.
46:53.8
One of the videos that
46:57.8
your videos that I saw recently
47:11.8
It seems like you geek out
47:13.8
on a lot of different things.
47:19.8
To me, space and the
47:21.8
universe is one of them.
47:23.8
Not just the physicality
47:25.8
of it, not just the physics,
47:27.8
it's also the philosophical
47:29.8
aspect of the universe
47:31.8
that also gets me.
47:35.8
We can't comprehend it.
47:37.8
There's no way the human brain can
47:39.8
comprehend the universe.
47:43.8
impossible. Literally and
47:45.8
figuratively impossible. It's so vast
47:47.8
that for us to be able
47:49.8
to understand, it's beyond us.
47:59.8
images from the edges of the universe
48:01.8
and we don't even know if there's
48:03.8
something else beyond those.
48:09.8
How does the universe make you feel?
48:13.8
and the finiteness
48:17.8
ability to comprehend it?
48:21.8
I made this video right after
48:23.8
I made the first video I
48:25.8
created for the JWST.
48:29.8
nothing and at the same time, we are everything.
48:33.8
vast expanse of the universe,
48:35.8
we are nothing. We are a
48:39.8
Probably even smaller as a
48:41.8
human being compared to how vast
48:43.8
and it's still expanding
48:45.8
how vast the universe is.
48:47.8
At the same time,
48:49.8
the stuff that makes us up,
48:51.8
the literal things that make us up, carbon
48:53.8
and all these other
48:55.8
molecules and atoms that
48:57.8
are in our bodies,
48:59.8
they are the same
49:01.8
star stuff. They are the same stuff
49:03.8
that makes up the stars and makes up the universe.
49:11.8
that makes up everything.
49:15.8
and at the same time, I am everything.
49:17.8
That's how it makes me feel.
49:21.8
It's humbling to live
49:23.8
as a human being.
49:25.8
Humbling and profound.
49:27.8
It's so profound.
49:33.8
I don't know if it's from
49:35.8
Neil deGrasse Tyson or
49:37.8
Neil deGrasse Tyson repeating
49:45.8
the universe's way
49:47.8
of learning about
49:51.8
I think it's Sagan.
49:55.8
we are the universe discovering itself.
49:57.8
Something like that.
49:59.8
It's true. It's absolutely
50:05.8
The universe, I don't even know what
50:07.8
to call it. Is it the place?
50:15.8
That's it. It literally
50:17.8
is it. It's everything.
50:19.8
Every single thing is the universe.
50:21.8
The universe has a
50:29.8
purposely trying to do so.
50:33.8
It's fascinating.
50:37.8
also the beauty of it
50:39.8
and it's also the frustrating thing.
50:41.8
The finiteness of being. You will never
50:43.8
fully understand. You can spend
50:45.8
lifetimes and lifetimes
50:47.8
on this planet and
50:49.8
you'll never fully understand the universe.
50:51.8
And that's just it.
50:53.8
There is something beyond us.
50:55.8
It is beyond us. But at the same time,
50:57.8
we were given all these gifts.
50:59.8
These sentient gifts that we have
51:03.8
So yeah, that's fascinating.
51:09.8
we are just starting out.
51:17.8
technology that we have now.
51:19.8
In the grand scope
51:21.8
of things, we are
51:25.8
We're just barely learning how to walk.
51:33.8
I don't know how many
51:35.8
millions of years
51:43.8
I think Homo sapiens have been around for
51:45.8
a thousand years.
51:47.8
Something like that.
51:51.8
Let's say one million.
51:53.8
We'll just look it up later.
51:57.8
my point is, if you compare it to
51:59.8
other species like
52:01.8
some of the dinosaurs,
52:03.8
cockroaches, crocodiles, they've been around
52:05.8
for hundreds of millions.
52:09.8
years their species
52:11.8
that roamed the Earth.
52:15.8
can we only go one million years?
52:25.8
being us already.
52:27.8
We haven't grasped
52:31.8
possibilities that could happen.
52:35.8
we've developed most of human technology
52:37.8
in the last 400-500
52:43.8
when you were a kid in the 90s
52:45.8
for example, you never
52:47.8
ever thought that
52:51.8
things on your smartphone, like banking.
52:53.8
Right? I never thought
52:57.8
already difficult for
52:59.8
somebody in the 90s to
53:01.8
see what the future would look like.
53:05.8
the next 100 years,
53:07.8
2100, the year 2100,
53:09.8
what is that even gonna look like? We don't know.
53:11.8
Right? We don't know.
53:13.8
And it's, that's the thing.
53:17.8
predict what it can look like,
53:19.8
what more, right?
53:21.8
What more millions of years from now?
53:25.8
no way of completely knowing.
53:27.8
And that's the finiteness of being.
53:31.8
human civilization.
53:39.8
we don't even know
53:41.8
if we're even gonna make it, right?
53:45.8
we destroy ourselves
53:47.8
in the next decade. If we keep
53:49.8
doing what we're doing, then yes,
53:51.8
absolutely, we're not gonna make it.
53:57.8
just imagine the waste of
53:59.8
potential that would be, right?
54:01.8
How frustrated the universe would be
54:07.8
produced to know itself
54:09.8
just failed like that.
54:15.8
And the letdown is always going to happen
54:17.8
because of hubris. That's it.
54:19.8
That's really just it.
54:21.8
Because some people can't accept
54:23.8
the fact that, for example, they won't be in charge.
54:25.8
Or they're not the most
54:31.8
That's what's going to make it happen.
54:35.8
Well, the thing is,
54:37.8
the universe can always just try
54:39.8
and try again, right? We are not really
54:41.8
like, you know, maybe the rabbits
54:43.8
can do it. Maybe the
54:45.8
dolphins, right? After we're gone,
54:47.8
or the octopuses,
54:49.8
right? Maybe they would have
54:55.8
a little bit better than
54:59.8
What's great is what happens to humans,
55:01.8
homo sapiens. We became
55:03.8
dominant species because we can organize
55:09.8
organize in large groups and at the same time,
55:11.8
we believe in, and this is my favorite
55:13.8
book right now, it's called Sapiens by
55:15.8
Yuval Noah Harari.
55:17.8
We have the ability to believe in
55:21.8
That gives us order.
55:23.8
Law is a fiction.
55:25.8
You can't find law in nature.
55:27.8
It's just an agreement
55:33.8
Religion is another.
55:35.8
It's things that you cannot prove with your
55:39.8
You cannot touch, see, hear, or smell.
55:41.8
Yet, we believe it.
55:43.8
Concept of corporations.
55:47.8
If a hunk of metal
55:49.8
is worth something because of
55:51.8
fiction, because we believe that. We agree
55:53.8
as a society that it
55:55.8
is worth so and so pesos, or
55:57.8
worth so and so dollars.
55:59.8
That's how we're able to
56:01.8
progress, go forward as
56:05.8
Well, that's a good point, right?
56:09.8
is just an agreed upon
56:15.8
at least, a significant
56:17.8
portion of a group
56:23.8
every country, not every
56:25.8
kind of people. Different
56:27.8
religions, different ideologies
56:29.8
of the country, right?
56:37.8
really read stuff?
56:39.8
Not as much as I want to.
56:43.8
because, well, life.
56:47.8
reading or playing
56:49.8
video games, I'm also
56:51.8
learning a lot from video games. I love the
56:53.8
Hidden Screens series. I learn a lot
56:55.8
from the video games.
56:59.8
a lot of documentaries
57:03.8
Those are, yeah, CuriosityStream,
57:11.8
Podcasts, when I work out,
57:13.8
when I jog, when I drive,
57:17.8
podcast on these days. I started doing that
57:19.8
six months ago, maybe,
57:21.8
and I never looked back. I will never,
57:23.8
ever do anything ever
57:25.8
again, other than listening
57:27.8
to a podcast while working out.
57:29.8
It also makes me perform better
57:33.8
makes me forget, you know?
57:35.8
It makes me forget that
57:37.8
this is, of course, you still have to focus.
57:39.8
I need to pause it if I need to
57:41.8
focus on something heavy.
57:43.8
When you're, for example, doing
57:45.8
warm-up work or cardio work,
57:47.8
you're listening to it, but then at the same time
57:49.8
your body's working.
57:51.8
It's a very, very
57:55.8
discovery for me, podcasts.
57:59.8
a lot of history podcasts, a lot of
58:01.8
podcasts that just geek out over things.
58:05.8
That's mostly what I do.
58:07.8
If I'm doing, if I have
58:09.8
to do research, I scour
58:13.8
for legitimate, again,
58:15.8
legitimate sources.
58:21.8
playing video games or watching K-drama.
58:31.8
thing to look at than
58:33.8
or listen to than
58:35.8
the actual time, right?
58:37.8
Five minutes, 30 minutes,
58:39.8
let's say, treadmill, right?
58:43.8
better. Oh my God, yes.
58:47.8
40 minutes na pala nakakaraan, tumatakbo
58:49.8
pa rin ako, wow, how did I do that?
58:53.8
when you play the video
58:57.8
audio, nakalagay yung
58:59.8
timestamp dun, let's say that's
59:03.8
Alam ko, one hour na yun.
59:05.8
It conditions your mind also.
59:07.8
When you listen to a
59:09.8
podcast, you just forget about everything. You play
59:11.8
it, put it in your pocket, and it just
59:13.8
plays. I love that.
59:15.8
You also podcast, right?
59:17.8
What do you talk about
59:19.8
in your podcast? Honestly, I've
59:21.8
only really had two episodes.
59:23.8
Only because life
59:25.8
is happening around me.
59:29.8
one of the things na
59:31.8
I can focus on at the moment.
59:35.8
I do have a podcast. It's called Boom Now
59:41.8
It's a podcast where
59:43.8
I share my thoughts, but at the same time
59:45.8
it's just things that, hey,
59:49.8
this? Let's learn it together.
59:51.8
That's the whole idea
59:59.8
episodes yet where I interview people, but
60:01.8
one day, I want to do that.
60:05.8
Podcasting is so much fun.
60:13.8
stopping. Sometimes,
60:15.8
there are times that
60:17.8
just recently, because I just got back
60:21.8
I get derailed sometimes.
60:23.8
I don't think I'll ever stop.
60:25.8
Yeah, it's a great outlet
60:29.8
Sometimes, you pick up ideas there.
60:33.8
You pick up new concepts, new ideas,
60:35.8
and then you start to explore, and then your curiosity
60:37.8
goes, and yeah, they're over
60:39.8
and over again. It's a cycle.
60:41.8
It's just a brilliant
60:43.8
invention of man. I love podcasts.
60:49.8
people look in your TikTok account,
60:51.8
they'll see a lot of
60:53.8
trivias, the boom now, you know,
60:55.8
series that you're doing.
61:01.8
there are people who
61:03.8
are just like us, of course,
61:07.8
But, do you think
61:11.8
Filipinos like trivia,
61:13.8
or people generally, right?
61:15.8
Remember in the 2000s,
61:17.8
remember, in the 2000s,
61:19.8
we had Game Kanaba, and
61:21.8
Who Wants to Be a Millionaire,
61:23.8
and Weakest Link. We had
61:25.8
these things, you know, and
61:27.8
there's something about learning
61:29.8
trivia that releases something in your
61:31.8
brain. I listened to it in a podcast as well.
61:35.8
Ken Jennings, who is like the record
61:37.8
holder for the longest
61:39.8
streak on Jeopardy, and
61:43.8
episode about him where they're talking about
61:45.8
this board game called Trivial Pursuit,
61:47.8
which is the most popular
61:49.8
board game for trivia. So, I mean,
61:51.8
there's something about
61:53.8
picking, remembering
61:55.8
a tidbit of knowledge that you used
61:57.8
to know that you tucked away at the back of your head,
61:59.8
at the back of your brain, and then you just,
62:03.8
and then you just answer it. There is
62:07.8
that is released when that happens.
62:09.8
So, it always feels good
62:11.8
to find out something new
62:13.8
or something that,
62:15.8
ah, ganun pala yun, or like,
62:17.8
yun pala yung tawag dun, or
62:21.8
the germ that kind of
62:23.8
made the content that I'm making.
62:25.8
You know, it's what
62:27.8
would make me fascinated
62:31.8
learning something, for example.
62:33.8
If I learned that,
62:35.8
medyo spoiler to, why the marathon
62:37.8
is called the marathon, for example, you know,
62:39.8
it's a, hey, that's why!
62:41.8
You know, and it's not like
62:43.8
lalabas siya sa quiz mo, or
62:45.8
anything. That's not what it's about.
62:47.8
It's just, having
62:49.8
new knowledge, there's
62:51.8
always something that's released
62:53.8
in your brain, and you just love it.
62:55.8
Yeah. Whether it's mundane,
62:57.8
or something parang, wow,
63:01.8
Ang isang trivia, I don't know
63:03.8
if it's, like, mind-blown.
63:09.8
mind-blowing na trivia na narinig ko
63:11.8
was from Neil deGrasse Tyson
63:17.8
actually, it's a trivia and
63:19.8
a realization, na parang,
63:21.8
how do I even word this?
63:23.8
So, the distance of
63:31.8
relative to the earth,
63:33.8
the distance of the sun
63:35.8
and the moon relative
63:37.8
to the earth is proportional
63:43.8
efekto nito is we can,
63:45.8
it makes it possible
63:47.8
to cover for the,
63:53.8
cover the sun completely.
63:57.8
the sun is way larger than
63:59.8
the moon, diba? Pero dahil
64:01.8
they are proportionally
64:05.8
sinabi ko nga kanina.
64:07.8
Sa distances nila.
64:11.8
too large na hindi mo makikita
64:21.8
hindi siya isang parang dot
64:25.8
galing, it's a miracle.
64:27.8
If you think about it, yeah, perfect miracle.
64:29.8
Yeah, and it's also
64:31.8
parang, how many,
64:33.8
what are the chances of that
64:35.8
occurring in other solar systems?
64:37.8
Diba? Yeah, absolutely.
64:39.8
Kasi the moon in Mars,
64:41.8
it's not the same anymore, diba?
64:43.8
Mas maliit na yung sun dun, tapos
64:45.8
kung may moon ng Mars, hindi na siya,
64:47.8
covered na siya completely na, alam mo yun?
64:49.8
Just the perfect conditions for
64:51.8
life, you know? Just everything
64:53.8
had to happen perfectly
64:55.8
for life to happen. So
64:57.8
just thinking about
64:59.8
that, you know, that's already
65:01.8
wow. It's insane.
65:03.8
So if you go to another planet
65:05.8
and let's say you're doing a science
65:07.8
fiction film, diba? Ako kasi
65:09.8
comic book artist ako eh.
65:11.8
Illustrator. So diba parang
65:15.8
let's say illustrate
65:19.8
diba parang wow, magkasama,
65:21.8
pareha sila ng conditions
65:25.8
Which is a little bit unlikely
65:27.8
if you think of the
65:29.8
probability. The odds,
65:31.8
just the odds of it happening, it's
65:37.8
what other trivias do you,
65:39.8
where do you get your
65:41.8
sources, where do you get your
65:43.8
parang pool na, ano masaman nakikita
65:45.8
ako? Nakakalap yung mga yan?
65:47.8
Most of the time, nakakasana siya
65:49.8
sa isip ko eh. Like for example,
65:51.8
during the pandemic, I watched
65:53.8
World War II in color on Netflix
65:55.8
and then they released another one
65:59.8
Immediately back then, sabi ko
66:01.8
oh, this is good to know.
66:03.8
I didn't know this, I didn't know that.
66:05.8
Nas nakakasana siya sa isip ko and then
66:07.8
one day, alimbawa I need a new
66:09.8
idea, I go back. I go back
66:11.8
to the things that I watched, I go back to the things that
66:13.8
I listened to on podcasts and I
66:15.8
parang if something, pumintig yung
66:17.8
tenga ko with something. Like yung
66:19.8
my recent episode about General
66:23.8
I just heard it. It's one
66:25.8
sentence on a podcast
66:27.8
and I go, I wanna know about this.
66:29.8
So I research on it
66:31.8
and I pause the podcast, I
66:33.8
research on it and then I created the content.
66:37.8
Moments that happen like that. That's why
66:39.8
it's always handy to write it down. You
66:41.8
have to write it down. If it
66:43.8
inspires you in that moment, you have to write it down.
66:49.8
how it happens for me.
66:51.8
Something that I just recall, something that
66:53.8
I did in a play, for example.
66:55.8
I tackled something in a play
66:59.8
I remember having to say this line
67:01.8
what's so interesting about
67:03.8
it again? So I research and then
67:07.8
It's really a matter of
67:11.8
to knowledge and being
67:13.8
open to inspiration at any given
67:17.8
That's how it would happen for me.
67:19.8
Most of the time. All the time, actually.
67:25.8
move to another topic.
67:33.8
We just finished the election,
67:45.8
TikTok, right? Everything
67:57.8
how was your experience creating
68:01.8
comments on TikTok?
68:03.8
This is a great question.
68:05.8
If you look at my TikTok,
68:07.8
around the time of the
68:09.8
elections, around the
68:15.8
created content that
68:19.8
talks about the elections.
68:27.8
that maybe we can learn something from it.
68:31.8
that's what history is about.
68:33.8
It is not chismes.
68:37.8
learning from the past
68:39.8
so that your future can be guided.
68:41.8
So that you don't repeat
68:43.8
the same mistakes as yesterday.
68:47.8
content about that.
68:49.8
Most notably about the Civil War.
68:53.8
content about the Civil War.
68:57.8
people always assume
68:59.8
that it's about the elections.
69:03.8
thinking it's about being partisan.
69:05.8
And I don't say anything.
69:09.8
I let people talk to each other.
69:15.8
as much as I would love healthy discourse,
69:17.8
you only get healthy discourse
69:19.8
by practicing healthy discourse.
69:25.8
for society to function.
69:27.8
If you want to be like you said a while ago,
69:29.8
if you want to be an intellectual, you have to be open to discourse.
69:33.8
engage. I don't say anything.
69:35.8
I just ask questions.
69:37.8
That's what I do. So whenever I create
69:39.8
content, it provokes thought.
69:41.8
That's the point of why I created that content.
69:45.8
this is what you should do.
69:47.8
This is what you should think.
69:49.8
I'm just telling you that
69:51.8
this is what happened in the past.
69:53.8
These are the results
69:55.8
of that event in the past.
69:59.8
whether you want to learn from it
70:01.8
or you want to go,
70:15.8
there are people who are just
70:19.8
accept or to learn,
70:21.8
to open their minds.
70:23.8
It's a different thing to
70:25.8
hear and to listen.
70:29.8
who can just talk all day
70:33.8
not prepared or not equipped
70:39.8
not because they're stupid.
70:43.8
believe that the Filipino people are stupid.
70:49.8
if there's anything
70:51.8
about our culture that
70:53.8
rejects, that makes us
70:57.8
what I was saying earlier
71:01.8
there's a stigma that you're branded
71:03.8
as being too serious.
71:07.8
are you being too serious?
71:09.8
Why? There are things
71:11.8
that need to be taken seriously
71:13.8
and you can say it
71:21.8
in case here in the media
71:23.8
like what we're doing
71:25.8
is still entertaining
71:27.8
but still not lose an ounce of
71:29.8
the message that you're trying to
71:33.8
That's the thing.
71:35.8
That's what I was saying earlier
71:37.8
that you have to know your audience.
71:39.8
It cannot be so today
71:41.8
we're going to talk about the Civil War.
71:43.8
It's a very different take
71:47.8
it's also my face
71:49.8
it's my branding, it's my personality
71:51.8
that's really, I don't hide who I am
71:53.8
that's really who I am, that's how I talk.
71:57.8
matter of using that
71:59.8
and at the same time being able to
72:03.8
impart information.
72:07.8
politics, not only in the
72:09.8
Philippines, anywhere in the world
72:11.8
in terms of politics anywhere in the world
72:15.8
people will not learn
72:17.8
unless they want to learn.
72:19.8
People will not listen unless
72:21.8
they let go of that
72:23.8
thing in their head that's saying
72:25.8
my tribe won't accept me anymore
72:27.8
if I turn away from this belief.
72:29.8
Because that's it. As social
72:31.8
beings, humans are afraid
72:37.8
The social norm is here
72:39.8
we are going to vote for this person.
72:41.8
If you turn away from that
72:43.8
you have no account.
72:53.8
talked about in this podcast
72:55.8
I actually had a long
72:57.8
conversation about this with
72:59.8
an anthropologist
73:01.8
last weekend with
73:03.8
Dr. Castro, Nestor Castro
73:05.8
we had a good conversation
73:07.8
very enlightening
73:33.8
I don't know what I'm going to do with it
73:35.8
maybe I can collate
73:37.8
it and do a series
73:39.8
a special playlist for the answers
73:45.8
I know that you've been involved
73:47.8
in the Lenny campaign
73:49.8
I've seen some of
73:51.8
your videos there
74:01.8
I also invite different
74:07.8
I invite everyone
74:11.8
wait for the other
74:17.8
this is just a question
74:19.8
that is lingering
74:21.8
a mystery to a lot of
74:23.8
Filipinos that despite
74:25.8
everything that's been said and done
74:27.8
with the Marxists
74:29.8
like I said earlier
74:31.8
I do not believe that the
74:33.8
Filipino people are stupid
74:35.8
that we are stupid
74:37.8
despite everything that was said
74:39.8
the accusations and the cases
74:45.8
the Filipino people
74:47.8
still voted for BBM?
74:51.8
That is something
74:57.8
it's something that I'm still asking myself
74:59.8
and I still, I will say this
75:01.8
over and over again
75:03.8
I don't think people
75:09.8
I don't believe that
75:11.8
actually the reason
75:13.8
for the rift is because
75:15.8
a lot of people seem to assume that the other
75:17.8
side is always stupid
75:19.8
that's why nobody listens to anybody
75:21.8
anymore, people are just
75:23.8
using their voices very
75:27.8
that you cannot hear above the noise
75:31.8
so if off the top
75:35.8
there is something about name recall
75:37.8
it's a very Filipino
75:39.8
thing to do name recall
75:43.8
Filipino thing to
75:47.8
side with an underdog
75:51.8
the whole idea of
75:53.8
this person was wrong
75:55.8
so we need to redeem
75:57.8
this person, help
75:59.8
redeem this person
76:05.8
it's that sentimentality
76:11.8
whole idea that maybe
76:13.8
this person is misunderstood
76:19.8
just, you know, they're the victims
76:21.8
here, and a lot of people
76:23.8
bought into that idea
76:29.8
and because of the
76:31.8
soap operas that we watched growing up
76:33.8
you know, the soap operas
76:35.8
that happen every afternoon
76:39.8
okay, so yeah, actually
76:41.8
yeah, it makes sense
76:43.8
culture has a lot to do with it
76:47.8
definitely dictates politics
76:51.8
want to change our politics
76:55.8
change the culture
76:59.8
and what we consume
77:05.8
US and the other western countries
77:09.8
now they're trying to change the culture
77:11.8
that's why it's called culture wars
77:19.8
well, it's back and forth
77:21.8
before there was a culture war
77:25.8
there's a culture war
77:33.8
media in terms of the news
77:35.8
but fiction media
77:39.8
the fiction we consume
77:43.8
may also be a part of that
77:45.8
absolutely, because you cannot
77:47.8
you will never be able to take out
77:49.8
emotional decision making
77:53.8
we are very emotional decision makers
77:55.8
not as Filipinos, but as
77:57.8
species, we are very emotional
77:59.8
emotional decision makers
78:01.8
we don't make decisions based on
78:03.8
numbers alone, we don't do that
78:07.8
especially in the culture of the Philippines
78:09.8
also where you have guilt culture
78:13.8
this is a debt to that
78:15.8
this is embarrassing
78:23.8
it is something that can be
78:25.8
manipulated as well
78:27.8
not just by them, but any
78:29.8
politician who wants to do that
78:31.8
anybody, you know, anybody
78:37.8
we are not willing
78:39.8
to question our assumptions
78:41.8
it's not going to change, as long as we are not
78:43.8
willing to admit that maybe
78:45.8
we can be wrong about something
78:47.8
that's never going to happen
78:49.8
we have to be prepared
78:55.8
how do we take back
78:59.8
how do we take back
79:01.8
just assessing things
79:03.8
not in an emotional manner
79:05.8
how do we do that?
79:07.8
and it's all about
79:09.8
having a conversation
79:11.8
without trying to kill the other person
79:15.8
I don't think there's enough
79:19.8
who are fighting that fight right now
79:21.8
here in the Philippines
79:25.8
fatigue, that's one, I know
79:29.8
there's one that's a factor, fatigue is
79:31.8
definitely a factor
79:33.8
two, it's really not enough
79:39.8
other people still have lives to live
79:41.8
at the end of the day
79:43.8
we still have lives to live
79:47.8
it all has to happen at the same time
79:51.8
are simultaneously happening
79:53.8
so you gotta pick your battles
79:55.8
you gotta pick when to say something
79:57.8
you gotta pick when to impart
80:07.8
this before that there is a
80:09.8
maybe it's a conspiracy
80:15.8
or it might just be
80:23.8
because it's favorable to
80:25.8
let's say politicians
80:27.8
like let's keep the population
80:31.8
let's just give them enough
80:35.8
and that's why I'm on TikTok
80:37.8
that's why I'm doing what I'm doing
80:47.8
think, it's not about being
80:49.8
smart, it's just about
80:51.8
slow down, don't react yet
81:31.8
are making people
81:33.8
are dividing people further and further
81:35.8
driving you crazy
81:37.8
it's about if you want to mediate
81:39.8
something, you have to be able to
81:41.8
like what a lot of people
81:43.8
say, you have to be able
81:45.8
to hear both sides
81:47.8
and from hearing both sides, create an
81:51.8
not just an opinion
81:53.8
an informed opinion
81:55.8
that's what's not happening
81:57.8
so it's just a matter
81:59.8
of I'm smarter than you
82:01.8
they say this and that, I'll believe this
82:05.8
so it is about ego
82:07.8
it becomes about I'm a better
82:09.8
person than you instead of
82:11.8
this is the information I know, that's the information
82:13.8
you know, okay, let's look at the information
82:15.8
and compare it with each other
82:17.8
because again, nobody wants to do that
82:19.8
because it's slow
82:23.8
it's painstaking, it's hard work
82:27.8
that's what it takes, if the meeting of the
82:29.8
minds is what it takes
82:33.8
we have to do it, that's why honestly
82:35.8
after the election, Gerald
82:39.8
exhausted, really I got exhausted, not only
82:41.8
from the campaigning, but just the
82:43.8
emotional turmoil
82:45.8
of all the news that was happening
82:47.8
not just the election news, that hurts
82:49.8
so it's all these
82:51.8
things, right? it's heavy
82:55.8
I really just had to
82:57.8
stay off, but I'm also
82:59.8
one of those people
83:01.8
that I know I fought for
83:03.8
what I believed in, and now
83:07.8
the people have spoken
83:13.8
that's what I like about
83:19.8
well, it's clear that you
83:23.8
we all have our own biases
83:27.8
those who follow you know
83:31.8
but still you don't resort to
83:41.8
that's what really hurts
83:49.8
of what's happening
83:55.8
you have a different opinion
83:59.8
the thing with opinion is
84:03.8
what I'm asking is
84:05.8
in my question about
84:13.8
assumption that I heard
84:17.8
they're going to steal, right?
84:21.8
they already know that
84:23.8
because I grew up
84:29.8
a memory related to politics
84:31.8
is the EDSA revolution
84:37.8
and then I basically grew up
84:51.8
I wouldn't doubt that
84:55.8
probably most if not
85:01.8
also have heard it
85:07.8
they voted despite
85:11.8
despite knowing all those
85:13.8
because there's a narrative
85:17.8
but they still vote
85:19.8
that's what makes you
85:21.8
that's what makes you
85:23.8
that's what makes you want to pull your hair out
85:31.8
the reason why I don't
85:35.8
who comment, the reason why I don't
85:39.8
denigrate myself to that level
85:41.8
is because at the end of the day
85:43.8
if a person wants
85:47.8
the first thing a person wants to learn
85:49.8
the first thing they will do
85:51.8
is to ask a question
85:55.8
immediately attacks you
85:57.8
you already know that's not going to be worth your time
86:07.8
somebody comments like that
86:09.8
I only do three things
86:13.8
if it's too threatening
86:15.8
and three, my favorite of all
86:21.8
that's my favorite
86:27.8
not just to me but
86:29.8
especially for example if it's an offensive comment
86:31.8
to somebody who already commented
86:35.8
they will call the names
86:37.8
the mother, the father
86:39.8
they already died, I delete those comments
86:41.8
and then I block that person
86:43.8
so they never see that I deleted their comments
86:47.8
because it's a way to star patrol
86:51.8
something that you kind of just learn
86:53.8
we all have different ways of
86:55.8
battling these things and that's
86:57.8
just my way to do it
86:59.8
but the others who actually
87:01.8
are curious, want to know something
87:03.8
I answer, I engage
87:05.8
always respectfully as much as I can
87:09.8
just to clarify what I said
87:11.8
it's baffling to me
87:13.8
that's why I asked the question
87:17.8
there are answers that I don't
87:21.8
I don't believe that you're stupid
87:23.8
but I don't understand
87:25.8
so I asked this question
87:29.8
the pro BBM that I know
87:37.8
I am looking forward to hearing their
87:43.8
instead of doing what you said earlier
87:47.8
and make assumptions, let's ask the question
87:53.8
so watch out for those
87:59.8
maybe before I let you go because you
88:01.8
have something else that you're
88:05.8
you have other tasks before
88:07.8
let's just ask a few things
88:15.8
the things that you broke out on
88:17.8
what's your latest
88:21.8
I watched Tokyo Vice
88:25.8
you should check it out, I love that show
88:29.8
Ansel Elgort as in Baby Driver
88:31.8
and Ken Watanabe as in
88:35.8
it's about a white journalist
88:37.8
who became a part
88:41.8
newspaper in the late 90s
88:43.8
and they're talking about the Yakuza
88:45.8
and it's basically culture shock for him
88:47.8
I have to report about the Yakuza
88:49.8
but the Japanese, they don't want me to
88:53.8
I love stuff like that
88:57.8
there's something also that I've watched over and over
88:59.8
and it's for me the best
89:01.8
the greatest documentary ever made
89:03.8
it's The Last Dance
89:05.8
about the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan
89:09.8
I think it's how documentary
89:11.8
it's the barometer for documentaries
89:13.8
and of course, you know, Marvel
89:19.8
that's what I've been geeking out
89:21.8
on and K-drama, I'm a very big fan
89:23.8
of K-drama and K-pop
89:31.8
one thing that I binge
89:33.8
is one of the most
89:37.8
one thing that I never really
89:43.8
Kumu, I have friends in Kumu
89:47.8
so shout out to my Kumu friends
89:51.8
and we actually, because I don't
89:59.8
Netflix K-dramas that I watch
90:03.8
of course, it's inescapable right now
90:05.8
these days, right? It's everywhere
90:09.8
and there was a few years ago
90:11.8
I was a huge fan of Momoland
90:17.8
because I have a friend
90:19.8
this is the most unassuming
90:25.8
that you will ever meet
90:33.8
yeah, with the hair
90:35.8
he's like that, he's vegan
90:47.8
K-pop to the point that
90:49.8
even though he's not rich
90:57.8
he has those, isn't that expensive?
91:01.8
he was crazy about Momoland
91:11.8
Momoland and I assume
91:13.8
other K-pop groups is
91:17.8
make a video of a dance cover
91:19.8
I re-inscreened it
91:21.8
on the dancing Momoland
91:23.8
so we did several takes
91:27.8
and of course, several takes
91:29.8
I kept hearing the song
91:35.8
and it's so mesmerizing
91:37.8
it's a science of earworms
91:41.8
you don't understand the language
91:47.8
that's the brilliant thing about it
91:49.8
and also the dances
91:53.8
you're hypnotized
91:55.8
as an artist myself
91:57.8
that's the thing I appreciate the most
91:59.8
of course, the creativity
92:01.8
and it's never just about singing, dancing
92:03.8
it's a complete package
92:05.8
the videos are shot well
92:07.8
the presentation, the promotion
92:09.8
it's always well thought of
92:13.8
the peak of music production
92:17.8
I'm sorry to all the western artists
92:19.8
but the Korean artists
92:21.8
are just way ahead
92:23.8
they're the shit right now
92:25.8
they're innovating
92:27.8
they're innovating something
92:29.8
they have a lot of different
92:31.8
innovations in terms of music
92:33.8
producing music and promoting music
92:37.8
and also, the dances is part of
92:43.8
you have songs that you don't necessarily
92:45.8
like but then when you see the dancing
92:47.8
you're like, oh, so that's what it was
92:49.8
going for, so totally
92:53.8
and it's also, you can do the dance
92:59.8
let's say boom boom
93:01.8
it's an extra connection that you have
93:03.8
with your fans, if you're the K-pop artist
93:07.8
and also again, TikTok, they do the dance challenges
93:09.8
it's that extra connection
93:13.8
it's just brilliant
93:19.8
so basically, they
93:23.8
this, I don't know if it's by accident
93:25.8
maybe they saw it works
93:27.8
it's recognizable
93:29.8
I don't know how much is
93:35.8
whatever happened
93:39.8
product, the commodity
93:43.8
a phenomenon, a modern day
93:45.8
phenomenon that's
93:51.8
it's the definition of
93:53.8
innovating music right now
93:55.8
really, there is no
93:57.8
other country that is
93:59.8
innovating music as much as they are
94:01.8
so yes, definitely
94:03.8
and now we're trying to catch up
94:07.8
it frustrates me a little
94:09.8
because we used to
94:13.8
even in the 2000s
94:15.8
Filipinos are the best
94:17.8
singers in the world
94:21.8
huge hope for OPM right now
94:23.8
we have a very good OPM scene at the moment
94:27.8
it's very exciting also and P-pop
94:29.8
also is on the rise
94:31.8
it's really impressive
94:33.8
I got to interview
94:37.8
they're wonderful
94:39.8
they're so talented
94:41.8
they're so humble
94:45.8
and you really just see
94:47.8
these kids, they're young
94:49.8
they're so young, enjoying
94:51.8
and that's the most important part
94:53.8
that's what makes them connect with fans
94:55.8
how much they enjoy what they're doing
94:57.8
it takes you away
95:05.8
the jadedness of the world
95:07.8
and then you just see
95:09.8
their eyes open to all the
95:11.8
possibilities and where they could take this
95:13.8
and they're breaking new ground
95:15.8
it's very fascinating and exciting
95:21.8
entirely, it's actually a new invention
95:23.8
because during the times of the Beatles
95:27.8
pandemonium that happened
95:29.8
but they don't have
95:31.8
lightsticks, they don't have
95:37.8
it's really a product
95:41.8
it's an industry all on its own because
95:43.8
it's not just the music, it's the fashion
95:47.8
all the peripherals
95:49.8
people buy the albums
95:55.8
I have one right here
95:59.8
I have one right there, I haven't even opened it
96:03.8
not because of the music
96:05.8
you can get that on Spotify
96:07.8
you get it for the photo cards, for the posters
96:09.8
for the collectibles
96:13.8
the idea that you
96:15.8
enshrine these people
96:21.8
and there's something that
96:23.8
you want to aspire being
96:25.8
if you're a younger person
96:27.8
you want to be as cool as these people
96:29.8
but at the same time, they're also
96:31.8
very humble, they're also
96:33.8
very fascinating as people
96:35.8
so it's that whole
96:39.8
I'm very much deep in it
96:41.8
there's something
96:45.8
you care about the members
96:49.8
in a really weird way
96:51.8
not weird as in creepy
96:55.8
because they're relatable
96:59.8
they're really kids
97:01.8
these people are growing up in the industry
97:03.8
they don't know what to do
97:05.8
when they're just out in public
97:07.8
and you just give them a camera
97:09.8
most of them should be like
97:11.8
you make them travel, go somewhere
97:13.8
they've never seen that place
97:15.8
they are clueless
97:17.8
they lose their passports
97:21.8
sorry, I'll just let my dog go out
97:31.8
that's the whole thing about K-pop
97:33.8
that I absolutely adore
97:35.8
so yes, to answer your question
97:37.8
in a very long way
97:39.8
that's what I've been geeking out on
97:47.8
I'm gonna let you
97:53.8
thank you for our conversation
97:55.8
I really enjoyed it, thank you very much
97:57.8
I hope you can do this again one day
98:05.8
drop by our studio
98:07.8
it looks very interesting
98:13.8
what else? do you want to say anything
98:15.8
last parting words for today?
98:17.8
just follow me on TikTok
98:19.8
I'm also on Instagram
98:21.8
I'm also on Twitter
98:23.8
and also I have a Facebook page
98:25.8
that's just my name, Rev Atadero
98:27.8
and I just want to ask you
98:29.8
two things, number one, support Philippine theater
98:31.8
support Filipino artists
98:33.8
it really matters
98:35.8
it makes a difference when you do
98:37.8
and number two, stay curious
98:39.8
just be curious about
98:41.8
anything and everything
98:43.8
being smart is not just about language
98:45.8
it's not just about
98:49.8
it really just starts
98:51.8
with asking questions
98:53.8
ask people questions
98:55.8
that's it, stay curious
99:01.8
that's it, I wouldn't
99:03.8
take more of your time
99:05.8
you're a busy man and you are
99:09.8
great things to do and
99:13.8
to your personal life
99:17.8
and I suppose that's it
99:19.8
thank you sir, thank you very much
99:21.8
the powerful comics man
99:23.8
thank you very much, you are very powerful
99:25.8
indeed and more power to you
99:27.8
and I cannot wait for your future episodes
99:29.8
thank you, thank you
99:35.8
powerful comics man
99:45.8
thank you, thank you, I really enjoyed
99:47.8
thank you, thank you
99:53.8
take care, see you soon
99:55.8
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100:28.8
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