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Okay, and the podcast will begin in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
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Ladies and gentlemen, live at Paco's Place,
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Ms. Dan Rochelle Yumul.
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Thank you, thank you for having me.
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Alam mo, nashock ako eh.
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Kasi akala ko maso surprise ka
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dahil ang Sweet Escape by Leng,
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nag-provide sila ng cake for dessert.
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For this episode.
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Tama ba naman biglang ka nag-provide
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ng tacos at saka ng beer?
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Diba? Parang all of a sudden,
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ako ang nawindang.
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Kasi ang kailangan gawin natin,
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i-change yung name from Paco's Place to Taco's Place.
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Taco Tuesday pa naman ngayon, diba?
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It's good to have you.
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It's good to have you.
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Thank you, sir. Thank you.
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We've known each other for, what, decades ba or years?
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I've known of you.
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We've known of each other.
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Yes, of each other.
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I don't know. I haven't counted.
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Was it in the 90s or the 2000s?
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It was in the 90s.
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Almost three decades.
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Teka, teka. Ayusin mo yun.
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Baka mamaya may lumabas d'yan.
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Sige, sige. No holds barred tayo.
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So, the first time I...
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Ang hindi lang natin pwede pag-usapan yung pinag-usapan natin sa dining table.
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No, no, no. Anong pinag-usapan natin?
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Are we gonna get through this?
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We are. First and foremost, ikaw ang unang...
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You and your team were the first people who interviewed us or featured us for Meet the 818.
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Of course, of course.
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And that deserves a big round of applause.
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Thank you so much for doing that for us.
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So, game, game, game. Nung 90s, game. Kuwenta mo sakin yan.
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So, I actually... You... St. Paul.
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So, I went to St. Paul.
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It was intramurals. I think I was a freshman.
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Did I play for your batch?
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Yes, I think you did.
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So, yung sabihin, girlfriend ko si Melissa noong time na yun.
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Melissa Buencamino.
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Si Lala Ventura. You know Lala Ventura?
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So, Lala Ventura and me wrote Will I Survive by Intro Voice.
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Funny thing about that song. So, little tidbit. I do know how to play the guitar.
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Will I ever survive? Yeah.
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Was one of the songs I learned to play.
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Yes. But if you ask me to play it now, I have no clue.
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Pero grabe no. St. Paul, Pasig.
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Na-ban kami ni Pancho Gonzalez doon because we would really, literally hang out sa loob ng classroom nyo.
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Kaya noong fourth year kayo, walang intrams.
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Oh. Actually, I think it was a batch older than namin.
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Because we were like the younger.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, we're younger.
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So, batch mo si Lala, diba?
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Hindi. Batch ko si JC Tencent.
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Okay. So, younger than Lala.
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So, yung batch ni Lala, doon ako nagda-drums.
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Ah. That's why you were on campus.
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Yes. Because of Melissa. She was my girlfriend at the time.
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And I would hang out sa klase ni Plinky Recto.
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So, si sister Nicole, galit na galit.
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Dahil, why is a guy hanging out at a girls' school sa loob ng classroom?
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How did you do it? There are rules, Paco.
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Si sister Mary Magdalene, si sister Nicole, kinahibigan ko silang lahat.
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Tapos kinahibigan ko rin yung mga bus driver.
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So, nakakaakit ako sa...
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So, haantayin na ako ng bus driver sa may...
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Ano yung condo sa canto ng Emerald?
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Hindi, Philinvest. Hindi, hindi, hindi.
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Basta yung condo roon, diba?
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And then, pababaan na papuntang St. Paul Pasig, paakit na ng ramp.
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Doon ako sasakay ng school bus.
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So, sina call line ilakad.
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Kabusmate ng ex-girlfriend ko.
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So, diretso ng pataas yun.
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Tapos nahuli ni sister Nicole na umaakit ako sa loob ng classroom.
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O yun, tinanggal ang intrams.
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That was bad. Really, really bad.
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So, you were younger than sina batch?
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Yeah, way younger, way younger.
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So, I mean, I saw you...
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So, who's your batch? Call line ilakad?
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No, my batch is 97. So, Kat Ilakad.
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Oh, si Kat. Who's younger than call line?
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JC Tenseco, Cara Ponsen, really.
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So, isipin mo na, naabutan ko pa na dati.
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Wala pang gym noon.
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It was just the quad, the shed.
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Nag-re-recess ako doon.
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You are such a young man, sir.
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And nakakatawa, I passed by St. Paul noon, a few weeks ago.
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And pag nakikita ko yung gym,
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masaya na malungkot.
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Because batch, hindi na lalala, yung dapat unang gagamit ng gym.
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Pero hindi nagkaroon ng intrams.
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Although nagkaroon ng variety show,
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nandito si Mike Luis,
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ando lahat ng mga nakatugtog ng intro voice and all that.
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But we never got to do the intramurals.
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Noong nagawa na yung gym.
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I never got to play.
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I never got to play sa intrams noong ano.
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I mean, I'd love to.
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Kahit sa edad ko na 51, I'd do the...
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Harmless, harmless.
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I was like, wait.
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Do you need a special pass?
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Pwede na ako mag-faculty.
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Uso ba restraining order sa Pilipinas?
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Pwede na parang hindi ko yan.
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Ito was like serious.
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Like, I remember when we've been communicating via Facebook.
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You didn't have a lot of time.
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But when we started communicating via Facebook,
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this passion for writing, and you write well.
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I mean, people can watch the organic interview that you did for us.
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And at the same time, when they read it, it's so glossy.
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If you know what I mean.
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Ang ganda ng pagkasulat.
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Tapos ang kenkoy ng pagka-interview.
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May talent yun eh.
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Yung writing bug, when did it hit you?
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I always wanted to be a writer.
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Pero, you know, Philippine culture, it's always you're either a nurse,
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you're an accountant, you're an engineer.
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I'm here, I'm here.
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Completely blanked out.
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What's it called?
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So I've always been writing.
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You know, any form, any whatever.
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I've journaled ever since I was yay high.
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Sarap diba? Ako I journaled also.
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So when you started writing at nakita ng parents mo na,
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Oh my God, mukhang si Donna Rochelle gusto maging writer,
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did they stop you?
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You need to be an accountant.
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Sinabihan ka na nga.
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What was the feeling like?
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But what was the feeling like na passion mo yung writing eh?
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And it shows in your work.
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But when you have parents who think they know what's best for you,
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how does it feel?
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How do I say this?
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And I'm filtering.
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Mukhang yung paper towel natin,
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mukhang dupupunta talaga.
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No, no, no, hindi.
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Keep the paper towel.
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I think I can get through this.
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And no filtering, ha?
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I'm trying to set the tone.
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So I'm the eldest of four girls.
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So as the eldest, there's that added…
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You have to set the precedent, no?
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So most panganays that I know always have this double life.
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Well, it's not a double life, but you have to…
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Yes, be a good example.
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You have this one example and then…
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So I had to set the example.
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So it's just like I didn't pursue it.
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I didn't pursue it, not full on.
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So hindi ka nagmasco?
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What did you take in college?
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So I was writing for the school paper.
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So it wasn't completely abandoned.
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I was writing for Polyworld at St. Paul.
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I was writing when we moved here.
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I was writing for the school paper.
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So in college, I took computer science.
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Pero I'm glad I did because yung basic ng programming.
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Like if you have that background, you can pick up.
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But the reluctancy, let's talk about that.
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Because yung pagre-rebelde.
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Like what was the conflict like?
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What was your inner demons telling you?
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And how were you battling all this?
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This is my passion.
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And we're not even talking about a guy.
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This is you and your passion.
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Minsan mas matindi pa nga yun.
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You and your passion and the example you have to set
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for your three other siblings.
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Because pag nag-rebelde ka, shame on you
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dahil magre-rebelde rin yung tatlo sa magulang mo.
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So paano yung laban doon?
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That's deep, man.
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When did we go from like, yay, so much fun and then...
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I don't think I quite processed it with the rebelling side.
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It's more of like, do what you gotta do, set the example.
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Because in the end, you have to be that person.
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You have to be that leader na make sure na everybody...
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Now did you know that you were gonna migrate to the States?
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This is a whole story, Paco.
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This is your episode.
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Take my time? No.
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Because I need to go home.
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And people need to go to sleep.
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Look, Mike and Ivy are tired.
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Pero masaya ito ha.
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My dad used to work in Saudi Arabia.
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He was an accountant, so my dad was an accountant.
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He worked in the Philippines under SGV.
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But then he moved to Saudi Arabia, worked for the British American...
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How long? For how long?
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Probably, like, 3 years? 3, 4 years?
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So 3, 4 years. How old were you?
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I was 3, so he applied for family status.
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Sabi ko mahaba to.
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That's fine. You were 3 years old.
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Nagtrabaho siya sa SGV Saudi Arabia.
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No, sa SGV sa Pilipinas.
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Tapos ibang company sa Saudi Arabia.
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Yeah, tapos ibang company.
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And he was there for 3 years?
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He was there in and out, like, probably 3 years, yeah.
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Pero nakaanak siya ng tatlo pa habang in and out siya sa...
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I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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I was like, I'm feeling like Shrek right now.
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I'm like an onion.
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Pero nakapanood ka ng episodes of Paco's Place.
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You know this is gonna happen, right?
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I do. I know. I was prepared.
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I was like, ah, don't worry about it. You got this.
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3 other siblings. Dad left when you were 3.
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Paano lumabas yung tatlo?
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So, hindi. He was coming back.
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Diba? May vacation naman sila.
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Para makapag-deposit, diba? Parang gano'n yung dating.
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Papatayin ako ng nanay ko pag napanood na to, episode na to.
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Tita, pinayinom po ako, ha?
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Kaya wala po akong inhibitions ngayon.
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And then, yung second one namin.
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So, dalawa na kami when we went to Saudi.
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And stayed there for a little bit. Kasi...
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My grandfather had petitioned everyone.
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So, my mom's side, maternal grandfather.
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So, we were just... The original plan was
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from Saudi Arabia, we get the petition, we move to the United States.
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That didn't happen. Kasi nagsarado yung project.
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So, at this time, tatlo na kami.
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So, yung pata pinanak sa Saudi.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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So, after that, we came back sa Pilipinas.
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So, the whole migrating was not even like a thing.
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So, my dad was already establishing himself.
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At the time na magmamigrate na kami, like...
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Ano yung to? Mga 95?
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Or at the time, dad was already like CFO ng Surges.
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Chocolate company.
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So, every week...
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Financial officer.
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So, you know, it was my junior year.
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Like, talagang established na kami, you know.
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Dumating yun, nilakad nila just because they wanted to see where it goes.
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So, that was a whole year.
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So, finally, magsisenior year na ako.
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No, senior year ng high school.
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High school? Oh, shoot.
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So, sinabi, we're going.
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Pack everything, say goodbye.
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It was the saddest day of my life.
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Can you, as a writer, because you're a writer,
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can you elaborate?
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Because there are kids right now who are probably going through that
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as they're watching your episode.
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And they couldn't articulate how they feel.
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May barkada ka, may ambition ka sa Pilipinas.
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Meron kang goals, meron kang dreams.
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Hindi din disclose sa'yo.
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All of a sudden, pack your bags, we're leaving.
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How did that feel?
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In the deepest Tagalog I can express,
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parang pinagtakloban ka ng langit at lupa.
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It was depressing because at that time,
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I also had my first boyfriend.
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So, what was the conversation like with the first?
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Shout out nga pala kay Dennis.
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Since wala ka, kailangan namin pag-usapan ito.
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Makinig ka na lang.
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Whiskey tayo pag nakita tayo.
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Okay, go, go, go.
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Well, Dennis is my only and always.
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No, no, no, hindi.
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Ikaw nag-disclaimer ka.
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Sumi-safety ka eh.
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To protect other people.
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So, si boyfriend sa Philippines.
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Wala siyang clue dahil wala ka rin clue.
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No, actually, I knew a couple months before we were leaving.
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Iri-rewind ko ah.
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Noong time na naging kayo ni boyfriend,
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you didn't know you were leaving.
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No, I didn't know.
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Uminom ka muna para.
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So, noong time na naging kayo ni boyfriend,
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hindi mo alam na aalis ka.
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So, ang sarap nun.
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So, first boyfriend ba ito?
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So, ibig sabihin, may mga plano-plano.
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May mga dreams of the future.
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Ganon yung dating nun.
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That's how it is, right?
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But it's so funny now that we're like this grown up
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and we look back and it's like, oh my God.
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How much of an...
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How innocent, right?
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How innocent it was.
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But then again, imagine this.
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It's enough na may innocence eh.
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Pero yung innocence na lalagyan mo ng trauma,
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yeah, that's rough.
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Yun yung nangyari sa'yo eh.
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So, may aspiration.
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Tapos biglang into the,
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while you guys were probably weeks or months
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into the relationship,
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Punta tayo states.
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How do you break the news to your boyfriend?
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Phone calls, man.
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I don't remember the exact details,
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Can you articulate the emotions?
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Put siya naman term yung bereft na yan.
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Kahit ako, google ko yung bereft.
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There was a deep sense of loss.
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Sabi mo, sinabi mo.
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I'm following your lead.
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Audience, bereft.
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Pero masakit, no?
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How did he take it?
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From what I remember, not well.
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Did you break up?
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Or nagtry ka mag-long distance relationship?
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Nagtry kami mag-long distance relationship.
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Why did it not work?
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It's not the same.
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Back in the day, ano tayo?
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Letters, mail, mail, phone, card.
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Email was like a new thing.
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You're either on CompuServe or AOL.
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So, it wasn't the same.
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Because he was older.
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So, he kind of just felt that he was holding me back.
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I have this new life.
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You know, all that.
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Hindi 16 years na.
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May mga issues pag ganun ang naiyari.
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Nagsaya ng podcast na to.
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So, kailan kayo...
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Paano kayo nagiwalay?
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First year college.
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So, LDR was for a while?
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Lahat na pag nag-aaway kayo,
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tapos ubus na yung yuga.
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Two minutes left.
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The thing is, hindi kami nag-aaw.
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Like, it was a really smooth relationship.
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So, how did you break up?
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And why did you break up?
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This episode is brought to you by
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Leo Bato & Associates.
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Ang realtor na pato.
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I don't remember the reason,
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but I distinctly...
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I distinctly remember...
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Are you sure you want this episode
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to go out into the universe?
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This is one of the candid episodes.
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Eh sabi mo, walang beauty part in answer.
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It was more of like,
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We just, you know,
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he had his own life,
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I have my own life.
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And that's sad, di ba?
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And you know what,
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I guess sa mga nagy-LDR,
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you really have to make a conscious decision
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and effort na kahit malayo kayo sa isa't isa,
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kailangan pareho kayo ng buhay eh.
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Hindi pwede mag-iba yung buhay nyo.
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Una-una yung time difference pa lang,
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yung napapatay sa'yo eh.
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And plus, the stage,
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the age of where we were at.
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where were you at when you were 16, 17?
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nung naghiwalay kayo,
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in college, you pursued what?
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Computer science?
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So I took computer science for one year and said,
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So, I took psychology.
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So may BA akong psychology.
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Because you interview people.
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But the reason I took it was the other part is
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I also wanted to help people.
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Social worker, you know.
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So sinabi mo talaga when you were a kid,
21:49.0
when I grow up, I want to be a social worker.
21:52.0
When I grow up, I want to be a writer.
21:56.0
So itong question,
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why would you even settle
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to be something na hindi mo pinangarap maging?
22:03.0
Pero teka lang, may compromise.
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Minor ko is creative writing.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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na hindi nahalata ng parents mo na.
22:15.0
So it's always like that.
22:16.0
It's always like,
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eto yung big picture,
22:18.0
pero may compromise ng konti.
22:20.0
So it was never truly like,
22:22.0
yung feeling na hindi ko magawa.
22:25.0
It's more of like,
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okay, well, I'm doing this,
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but I'm doing this.
22:28.0
Right, right, right.
22:29.0
So it's always like,
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May alignment of sorts.
22:34.0
So may compromise ng konti.
22:35.0
So it wasn't really...
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So creative writing,
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I like the way you write.
22:41.0
hindi siya fluff.
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kasi yung fluff parang a-bullshit yan.
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But it really means...
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of certain things.
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Of certain things.
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yun ang ibig sabihin.
23:08.0
Pag nabasa ko yung article about Paco's Place,
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sabi namin yung na Michael Labadi
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na J.J. Buencamino,
23:16.0
Pag pinanood mo kami,
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hindi ganun kami magsalita,
23:18.0
pero pag binasa mo kami,
23:22.0
You gotta keep it classy, man.
23:27.0
This tone of voice,
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how did you develop it?
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It just kind of flows like that.
23:39.0
When I meet someone,
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or when I try to feature someone,
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I try to walk in their shoes.
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Like what are they feeling?
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what is this dream that they're pursuing,
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it's kind of like I'm trying to channel,
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like what's the lens of how they're seeing this?
23:58.0
And then I'm just the storyteller.
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I'm just telling their story.
24:01.0
So parang may opinion,
24:03.0
pero walang opinion.
24:04.0
So you kind of have to balance that out.
24:07.0
or how hard is it
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and not give your own opinion
24:10.0
because you're writing about someone?
24:14.0
You really have to hold back.
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hindi kayo pareho ng opinion,
24:20.0
So what do you do?
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Because the thing is like
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when you're featuring someone,
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it's not about you.
24:27.0
So it doesn't matter
24:28.0
if their opinion's different from you.
24:34.0
Meet the 818 is about
24:39.0
It's the people in the valley.
24:40.0
And the approach is very
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Mr. Rogers neighborhood.
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the thread that connects us all.
24:48.0
because people always,
24:51.0
that sometimes it's
24:52.0
the differences are what's focused.
24:57.0
Yung common ground.
24:58.0
Like the common ground stuff.
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in my head that's
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that's how it should be.
25:05.0
If that makes sense.
25:06.0
It makes perfect sense
25:07.0
because yung tanong ko sa'yo ngayon is
25:09.0
pag nag-uusap kayo
25:10.0
ng asawa mong si Dennis,
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or does the opinion
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come out of your mouth
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He might be watching.
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Not because of fear
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but because of respect, right?
25:41.0
No, because I know
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the power of words.
25:45.0
before you continue,
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Because you know what?
25:49.0
That's very true.
25:51.0
I am proud of you
25:52.0
no matter what you do.
25:55.0
I am proud of you.
25:56.0
Now you have to ask yourself,
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are you proud of yourself?
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Because there's nothing you can do
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that will not make me proud of you.
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And I think those words of mine
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give them confidence
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to be who they want to be.
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to the power of words.
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going back to what you're saying,
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pag narinig ng anak mo yun,
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that gives them confidence
26:16.0
in the knowledge na
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as a son or as a daughter.
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Which is amazing.
26:23.0
That they can do anything
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na gusto nilang gawin
26:26.0
proud sila sa ginagawa nila,
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Yeah, as long as it doesn't involve
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sitting in the couch all day
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with the potato chips.
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Parang pinapananig mo yan.
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pag nagtatalo kayo
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at nag-usap kayo ni Dennis
26:47.0
the power of words
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is in your favor.
26:49.0
You're articulate,
26:52.0
the common people
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kami mga peasants
26:54.0
hindi namin ginagamit.
26:57.0
paano mo na kukontrol yun
26:59.0
para maging patas
27:00.0
ang argument niyong mag-asawa?
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Well, here's the thing,
27:02.0
Dennis is equally as witty
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Yes, pero pag nakita mo.
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pag kayong dalawa,
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introvert is siya
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pag nasa labas eh.
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Ikaw, extrovert kayo eh.
27:14.0
pag ba kayong dalawa magkasama,
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is he very opinionated
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or does he let you
27:17.0
It depends on the situation
27:18.0
and who the people are.
27:22.0
he's comfortable,
27:24.0
everything will fly.
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parang siyang ambivert
27:30.0
everything will fly.
27:32.0
Because this is Dennis
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and he will tell you
27:34.0
exactly what's on his mind.
27:36.0
back to the power of words.
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Because you know,
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like how many times
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heard parents say
27:43.0
na ang tanga-tangon man
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pag nag-aawa yung mga
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they're just like
27:53.0
the thing is like,
27:54.0
especially with my husband,
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If I say something,
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he will change it.
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or the clothes need to be
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or blah, blah, blah.
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Talaga nilaglag mo ha?
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Pinapae-explain ko lang.
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Nilaglag mo talaga.
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Hindi naman yun yung
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talagang di depend.
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gagawin niya talaga.
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whatever I would,
28:46.0
pag may sinabi ako,
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talagang babaguhin niya.
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It's because I said something.
28:54.0
if he said something,
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babaguhin mo yun sa'yo?
28:59.0
if it hurts his feelings.
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hindi respeto ang tawag do'n?
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respeto ang tawag do'n.
29:07.0
Paano kayo nagkakilala?
29:13.0
Computer science?
29:17.0
Nagkaroon kayo ng minor together?
29:21.0
History major si Dennis.
29:25.0
going back to moving to a new country
29:26.0
and not feeling any connection,
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because you left your life behind.
29:31.0
may Filipino-American
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Student Association.
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freshman orientation ko.
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Kayo pa rin ang boyfriend mo sa Philippines
29:47.0
yung time na yon?
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Okay, okay, okay.
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This is how I met him.
29:57.0
ayusin ang timeline.
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anong tawag do'n?
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I just passed by,
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itong story ang to.
30:17.0
yung kaibigan goes,
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She looks like a thug.
30:22.0
nag-uso kayo ni Dennis,
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we became friends.
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may nililigawan siya.
30:31.0
interesting tong story ang to,
30:35.0
friend zone kayo dalawa.
30:37.0
May boyfriend ka,
30:40.0
This is interesting.
30:41.0
Very interesting.
30:43.0
Why is it interesting?
30:44.0
Because people go through this stuff,
30:49.0
me and my then-boyfriend broke up.
30:52.0
Because of Dennis?
30:59.0
not because of Dennis.
31:01.0
The burden of proof is on you.
31:02.0
Paano naging hindi kay Dennis?
31:03.0
Magkakilala kayo ni Dennis,
31:04.0
friends kayo ni Dennis,
31:05.0
tapos may boyfriend ka.
31:06.0
I can't disclose details,
31:16.0
I would rather let it go,
31:17.0
because it's in the past.
31:18.0
You put your past in your behind.
31:27.0
for you to have an LDR?
31:28.0
Yung mga naka-LDR listening to this,
31:30.0
and then having a guy friend
31:33.0
who is physically present?
31:35.0
Because I didn't see him as,
31:38.0
as boyfriend potential.
31:40.0
not at the moment.
31:41.0
This is getting juicy.
31:45.0
wala ka nararamdaman
31:46.0
nung may nililigawan siya?
31:48.0
he was just a friend.
31:53.0
ilan years bago nag-pivot
31:54.0
from friend to lovers?
32:05.0
I'll drink to that.
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it just happened.
32:12.0
Wag mo isi-shortcut,
32:15.0
Kailangang gumisapan na natin
32:16.0
kay dalawa ni Dennis.
32:19.0
So who brought it up?
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I think it was just
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a mutual bringing up.
32:24.0
so mutual bringing up,
32:29.0
which month mo na realize na,
32:33.0
hindi lang friend na pwede dito ah.
32:34.0
This is boyfriend potential.
32:36.0
When did you realize that?
32:38.0
Nakipag-split ka ba muna
32:39.0
sa boyfriend mo sa Pilipinas
32:40.0
bago mo na-realize yun?
32:42.0
na-realize mo yun
32:43.0
kaya ka nakipag-split
32:44.0
sa boyfriend mo sa Pilipinas?
32:47.0
siya ang nag-split sa akin.
32:49.0
nag-split siya sa iyo,
32:50.0
so syempre heartbroken ka.
32:52.0
Napaka-dramatic naman.
32:55.0
balikat ni Dennis
32:56.0
ang naging sandalan mo,
32:59.0
guy friend mo eh.
33:06.0
on their shoulders?
33:08.0
there was no shoulder resting
33:10.0
Kahit kay Dennis?
33:11.0
There was no shoulder resting.
33:13.0
So nung nakipag-split ka
33:15.0
hindi alam ni Dennis to?
33:17.0
Na nag-split kami?
33:21.0
And then sabi lang niya,
33:22.0
ah talaga nag-split kayo?
33:31.0
he was just like,
33:35.0
Did that intrigue you
33:36.0
when he walked away?
33:39.0
It was more like,
33:49.0
Sa'tin dalawa ako
33:54.0
hindi mo naman alam
33:55.0
na talagang prangka ako eh.
33:58.0
this is a tragic end.
34:02.0
meron in your head, right?
34:04.0
So when did you realize
34:05.0
na you know what?
34:07.0
This is the guy for me.
34:11.0
It's hard to explain.
34:12.0
It just kinda happened.
34:13.0
It was like an aha moment.
34:14.0
It doesn't happen
34:18.0
ang gusto ko malaman.
34:21.0
We were in a retreat
34:24.0
the same association.
34:25.0
We were both on board
34:27.0
there was a beach
34:31.0
there was a beach.
34:34.0
and just be like,
34:38.0
you know, he was sitting
34:39.0
I remember the moment
34:40.0
because he was just
34:41.0
sitting on the sand
34:44.0
Hey, how are you doing?
34:45.0
Nag-uusap lang kami.
34:46.0
And then at that moment
34:47.0
it just felt comfortable.
34:50.0
you know those moments
34:51.0
when you know na.
34:56.0
Kumbaga parang there was
34:59.0
It was just comfortable.
35:00.0
Like there was no
35:01.0
pretense, nothing.
35:02.0
It was just like.
35:04.0
Kailan niyo finormalize?
35:13.0
couple months after that.
35:14.0
What did your friends say?
35:18.0
All your friends?
35:19.0
Your college friends?
35:21.0
yeah, no we walked
35:26.0
So pagpasok namin
35:28.0
we were holding hands.
35:30.0
Pinagtatawanan kami
35:33.0
Pagpasok daw namin
35:34.0
biglang nagkaroon ng sun.
35:39.0
Gano'ng tagal na kayo dalawa?
35:43.0
Together, together
35:44.0
without being married
35:49.0
Is it still spicy?
35:54.0
Nakikilig pa rin.
35:58.0
he has this moments
35:59.0
when we're like driving
36:01.0
looks and it was like
36:10.0
those things take effort
36:13.0
It just doesn't happen.
36:15.0
should always be pursuing
36:18.0
should always look at
36:27.0
an everyday choice.
36:29.0
You have to choose
36:33.0
it's all the fluffy stuff
36:34.0
but it's also work.
36:35.0
It's also the choice
36:37.0
we're staying together
36:38.0
like this is the person
36:41.0
I'll grow old with.
36:43.0
This is the person
36:44.0
that if anything happens
36:46.0
I feel like my heart's
36:48.0
and I can't breathe.
36:50.0
gumunaw yung mundo
36:57.0
Meet the 818 interview
36:58.0
si Dennis was your
37:06.0
what was the conversation
37:07.0
like husband and wife?
37:12.0
I had a full time job
37:13.0
but I was freelancing
37:15.0
writing for different
37:27.0
So gano'n nakatagal pala
37:28.0
when you were writing, no?
37:31.0
eleven years ago.
37:33.0
yeah, my daughter came in
37:36.0
the focus is on being a parent
37:38.0
being like you know
37:48.0
my dad passed away
37:50.0
I'm sorry to hear this.
37:58.0
Recently lang, no?
38:01.0
yeah, it was pretty recent.
38:05.0
biglaan na lang na matay?
38:11.0
just caught it like
38:15.0
you know, what are you gonna do?
38:23.0
the whole thing now is like
38:30.0
namatay ang dad mo
38:31.0
hindi pa kayo mag-asawa ni Dennis
38:33.0
or mag-asawa na kayo?
38:34.0
No, mag-asawa na kami.
38:36.0
Dennis and I got married 2006.
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After how many years of courtship?
38:43.0
because I asked for one
38:44.0
and he will laugh.
38:45.0
Dennis will laugh.
38:47.0
I asked for a day break
38:53.0
we weren't together as long as
38:54.0
you think we were
38:55.0
because you asked for one day break.
38:57.0
I'm like, really?
39:09.0
Yeah, mga you know
39:10.0
but he asked for that one day break
39:11.0
so he always holds that
39:15.0
Now, when you said that
39:21.0
what was his reaction?
39:22.0
He's like, go for it.
39:28.0
Dennis is like the force
39:35.0
he wants me to be
39:37.0
the best version of me.
39:40.0
Do you do the same thing for him?
39:43.0
Do you feel that you do?
39:46.0
he does run a podcast
39:49.0
he runs two fanboys
39:50.0
and a filthy casual.
39:53.0
that's what he wants to do.
39:54.0
So I'm always like
39:55.0
I always tell him like
39:56.0
babe whatever's good for you
39:58.0
whatever you feel
40:01.0
and make you the best version
40:05.0
This episode is brought to you by
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Dr. Lourdes Capulon.
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cause that's why we're here.
40:16.0
let's talk about that
40:17.0
that philosophy you know
40:18.0
because may mga tao
40:21.0
it's okay to be mediocre
40:23.0
until it's too late
40:26.0
I only have one life
40:31.0
ano yung mediocre para sa
40:33.0
there's standards in art
40:34.0
like it's different.
40:35.0
Yeah like mediocre
40:36.0
mediocre would be
40:40.0
that someone else
40:41.0
is passionate about
40:43.0
To me that's mediocre.
40:46.0
Unless they pay you good bucks
40:48.0
you know the good money is
40:49.0
para sa pamilya man
40:51.0
para sa kaginawaan mo
40:54.0
it doesn't change the fact
40:55.0
that you're still doing something
40:56.0
you don't wanna do.
41:03.0
I understand that too
41:04.0
because there are situations
41:05.0
where family does come first
41:07.0
and you can't just like
41:09.0
hey I'm gonna do my passion
41:10.0
and not make money
41:11.0
and then it's like
41:13.0
like to me money is not
41:16.0
money is for survival
41:22.0
how you feed your family
41:26.0
if you didn't realize
41:28.0
truly wanted to do
41:35.0
nag computer science ka
41:36.0
tapos nag psychology ka
41:38.0
but you went back
41:40.0
is it safe to assume
41:41.0
that it never left you?
41:45.0
the bug was always there
41:47.0
dumating ka sa crossroad
41:51.0
want to start writing again?
41:55.0
to my current job now?
42:03.0
cause I've always wanted
42:08.0
so it was a good mesh
42:12.0
When you say help people
42:13.0
what does that mean?
42:17.0
you're a small business
42:20.0
but you're not gonna get
42:24.0
but like the LA Times
42:26.0
et cetera et cetera
42:29.0
not tell that story
42:37.0
so it's a passion mission
42:38.0
however you wanna call it
42:39.0
but it's my little way
42:41.0
trying to contribute
42:43.0
let's talk about that
42:44.0
so it's in your head
42:47.0
You wanted to do this
42:48.0
it's in your head
42:49.0
and the reason why
42:50.0
I'm setting it up this way
42:51.0
is because there are
42:55.0
something similar
42:56.0
to what you just did
42:57.0
and what me and Michael
42:59.0
but it's really hard
43:00.0
for them to take action
43:02.0
Apparently you did
43:03.0
so when this thought
43:04.0
germinated in your head
43:05.0
what were the steps
43:06.0
that you needed to take
43:12.0
There really wasn't
43:15.0
shot from the hip
43:21.0
what were you saying
43:24.0
that was pretty much it
43:25.0
like do a website
43:26.0
get a social media account
43:31.0
and then what happened?
43:32.0
and then I lost my job
43:40.0
You're getting everything
43:44.0
You gotta write about
43:53.0
there was a conversation
43:54.0
it was interesting
43:56.0
I can't look at him
44:32.0
challenges to actually take the first step. Can you share that?
44:35.4
So, the first step was, make a website.
44:42.8
Did you know how to make a website? Nag-computer science kaya?
44:46.6
Yes, I do. That's why I was like, oh, I have many tools in my arsenal.
44:51.4
Let's just, you know. So I just, you know, I just structured that
44:56.2
and then I started, you know, going. I would drag Dennis and Phoebe
45:00.0
into, like, adventures. Just like, hey, let's go to this restaurant.
45:03.2
Oh, let's go to this. So, parang siyang vlog-vlog.
45:06.6
Parang ganon. But it's more writing. It's more, you know,
45:11.2
because I didn't like being in front of the camera.
45:14.0
I didn't like the spotlight on me.
45:16.2
So, ikusabi pala kami ni Michael.
45:17.6
Halimbawa, naipunta kami sa Silver Lake Ramen sa Porter Ranch.
45:20.8
So, pwede pala kami gumawa ng review, no?
45:22.8
Tapos ilagay yung content na yan sa Meet the 8.
45:24.6
Yes, pwede kung gusto ninyo. Okay, okay.
45:27.6
I'll have, like, a Paco's Place corner, no?
45:31.6
Oh, sige, sige, sige.
45:32.6
So, when this happened, was Dennis fully on board?
45:37.4
And the reason why I'm asking is because
45:39.2
when your spouse is on board with what you do,
45:42.4
you can exponentially do better.
45:45.6
Like, shout-out ako kay Jaja at kay Ives
45:47.6
because if not for Jaja and for Ives,
45:50.4
kaming dalawa ni Michael would be struggling to do this.
45:52.8
Yeah, I think your spouse has to be on board with whatever project you have
45:56.4
or else it's going to be difficult.
45:57.8
Because, like, right now, you know, there's babysitting.
46:01.8
And you see it. You see the behind the scenes of what this podcast is, di ba?
46:04.8
Exactly, exactly.
46:05.8
Like, in your case, kayo, ikaw si Dennis, si Phoebe,
46:08.4
like, kasama ni Dennis, kaya si Phoebe,
46:10.2
may ginagawa sila kanina, may coaching and all that.
46:12.8
How does it feel to be alone coming here sa Paco's Place?
46:17.4
I wanted to take them with me.
46:22.2
Yeah, but, you know, it's a school night, so...
46:25.4
And they've had a really long day.
46:27.0
Si ex-boyfriend nakakausap mo pa, hindi na?
46:31.8
Because, you know, once you get married,
46:36.4
Explain that to people who are currently married
46:38.8
and having this kind of conflict.
46:41.8
What was your mindset and what was your principle?
46:47.0
Dennis is my always and forever.
46:53.8
So he, you know, so you don't want to do anything to damage that.
47:02.2
you know, once that gets damaged or that gets...
47:06.4
Wala na. No more.
47:07.8
You know, it's trust. It's respect.
47:09.4
It's, like, all those years of, like, building that and growing together.
47:13.6
You know, how do you...
47:15.2
Boundaries may ano kayo?
47:18.2
Boundaries as far as...
47:20.2
As far as you guys being married is concerned.
47:25.0
Like, boundaries in marriage.
47:26.4
May meron, ano diba, like,
47:29.2
don't cuss at me.
47:33.0
I mean, but it's, like, it's never been spoken.
47:35.2
It's, like, it was always unspoken.
47:37.0
Like, fight fair.
47:41.2
Women don't fight fair.
47:43.0
Oh, nakaput siya sa comments.
47:44.2
Hala, lagot ka kay Jaja.
47:48.0
Asawa ko si Jaja. Every word will be taken against you.
47:53.8
Well, I believe in fighting fair.
47:56.6
Sige nga. Tignan nga natin definition mo na fair.
48:01.6
Wag ka magsasalita nang hindi mo matitake back.
48:06.8
So, pag sinabi ko sa'yo, buisit ka.
48:09.4
Sasabi mo rin sa'kin.
48:11.0
Okay. Bahala ka d'yan. Bye.
48:15.2
Ayaw niya ng silent treatment.
48:16.6
Dennis hates when I do this.
48:18.2
Like, kasi hindi siya intentional.
48:20.6
It's more of, like, I have to process it in my head.
48:23.0
Again, it goes back to the power of words.
48:25.2
Like, what can I tell you?
48:26.6
How can I make you understand how I'm feeling right now without…
48:32.4
Hurting your feelings or causing agitation?
48:36.8
Without, like, making you feel inferior.
48:40.8
Does that make sense?
48:41.6
It makes perfect sense.
48:42.4
Kasi sometimes, I catch myself mansplaining.
48:49.4
I give him a look.
48:50.4
I don't even have to say anything.
48:51.8
He's like, oh, I mansplained.
48:53.0
Pero how do you, how do you…
48:55.8
Like, you're a woman, I'm a man.
48:57.8
Pag nag-uusap kami ni Jaja, I catch myself going,
49:01.2
naiintindihan mo ba?
49:02.6
And sometimes I feel that when I say that,
49:05.4
it's insulting to a woman.
49:07.6
But at the same time, ang gusto ko lang mangyari is validation
49:10.4
na naiintindihan mo yung sinabi ko.
49:12.6
And you concur, di ba?
49:14.0
Parang gano'n yung deteng, di ba?
49:16.2
My intention is not to mansplain,
49:21.8
kung bakit hindi ka gana yung naiisip mong idea.
49:25.2
Is it the same with you?
49:29.8
I don't take it into offense because I know who Dennis is.
49:32.6
And I know how he explains things, you know.
49:35.8
And I know when he's just trying to
49:40.6
he's just trying to put his point of view out there.
49:44.2
Using analogies, di ba?
49:46.2
But then sometimes when it's like,
49:47.6
okay, dude, pump the brakes, I completely get it,
49:51.0
I'm on your wavelength.
49:52.6
So pag sinabi mo na yun,
49:54.2
pump the brakes, I completely get it,
49:56.6
I'm on your wavelength,
49:58.0
do you expect him to just shut up,
50:00.2
wala nang recap, wala nang…
50:02.0
No, he just goes, okay, okay, no problem.
50:04.6
So he kind of just like, okay, he backs away
50:06.4
because he already knows.
50:07.4
Are you guilty of saying that but not meaning it?
50:09.8
Or do you mean it na talaga you guys are on the same wavelength?
50:13.8
You get where he's coming from
50:15.8
and you understand the message of what's going on.
50:20.2
Of course, there are times na you're only human
50:22.6
and you have moods.
50:24.0
And there's the eye roll.
50:25.4
Men don't have that.
50:27.8
That's when it's like,
50:29.0
oh my God, are you kidding me?
50:30.4
I will strangle you right now.
50:32.0
But I'm gonna keep it in because I will strangle you.
50:37.2
You know, there are moods.
50:38.2
And it's just, again, it's like every couple,
50:42.0
yung standards, yung interaction
50:45.0
ng each couple is different.
50:47.2
So hindi, yung standard ko, hindi standard niyo.
50:51.0
You know what I mean?
50:51.8
Yes. Perfectly know what you mean.
50:53.4
So now let's bring in the in-laws.
50:55.2
Kasi kaya as husband and wife,
50:56.4
mag-iba na yung standard niyo eh.
50:57.8
Meron pa lang sarili mong parameters,
50:59.4
meron siya sarili ang parameters.
51:00.8
Sinong in-law, without really hitting on any in-law,
51:05.4
sinong in-law madala sa bahay niyo?
51:12.0
So, it's complicated.
51:15.4
But the closest in-law...
51:18.6
But I will, you know, closest in-law is my mom.
51:21.6
So my family is always like...
51:23.4
There, by default?
51:25.4
Because they're closer.
51:26.4
You know, my in-laws are further.
51:30.2
Of course, it's like more of a drive,
51:32.0
more of a flying sometimes.
51:35.8
So now, now that you have your mom with you,
51:38.6
and you have the kids rounded up by your mom,
51:41.8
is it easier that way?
51:49.8
Because you have to watch their personalities.
51:53.2
Kasi magkakaiba sila eh, no?
51:55.2
Because it's different.
51:56.2
When it's just you as a family, as a couple,
51:59.4
it's just, you know, that's your...
52:03.0
Yes, that's your click.
52:05.2
But then when you have to manage different personalities,
52:09.0
it becomes a little complicated.
52:15.6
Kunyari, hypothetically.
52:17.6
Okay, I was like,
52:20.6
This is used to be.
52:22.6
Like let's say, si Phoebe may twins.
52:24.6
Hypothetical lang to.
52:25.6
So now, sinasabi mo may ima-manage mo.
52:29.0
How do you deal with different personalities?
52:31.6
May asawa ka na opinionated,
52:33.4
may anak kaya hindi ko alam kung opinionated siya.
52:35.6
Itatimes two natin sila.
52:37.6
How do you deal with that?
52:39.4
And you're opinionated also.
52:41.2
And you're using the power of words.
52:43.2
Where does everything come in?
52:44.8
Oh, it's a lot of filtering.
52:46.4
And a lot of like,
52:47.4
give me ten minutes.
52:48.4
Give mommy ten minutes.
52:49.4
Pero itatanong ko sa'yo,
52:50.8
as a writer, as a person with expression and opinion and articulation,
52:55.6
how do you hold it back in?
52:57.4
And how does it affect you when you hold it back in?
53:00.4
Oh, it's a lot of stress.
53:01.4
So yun ang ginawa ko. Ten times two ko lang.
53:03.4
It's a lot of stress.
53:05.0
Like holding in, filtering,
53:06.4
that's a stressful process
53:08.4
because you can't really, you know.
53:13.4
So ito ang tanong.
53:15.4
Will you forever keep it in or will it eventually come out?
53:20.4
I have to find that balance.
53:22.4
I will tell you, it's not perfect.
53:24.4
I have to kind of like...
53:29.4
Sometimes when you keep too much in,
53:31.4
then it's just gonna explode.
53:33.4
That's when you have to say,
53:34.4
I'm gonna drive down the street.
53:39.4
And hit the first pedestrian I see.
53:41.4
Five points if it's a chicken.
53:48.4
If you have so many things to say,
53:50.4
tapos wala kang audience,
53:51.4
or wala ng tao pwede makinig sa'yo,
53:56.4
Now, let's talk about your siblings.
53:58.4
Sa inyong magkakapatid,
54:01.4
are you the only one who's articulate?
54:06.4
Yeah, they pretty...
54:14.4
kasi siyempre, apat yun.
54:16.4
That's four different lives.
54:17.4
You know, four different...
54:19.4
So, me and the second one are three and a half years apart.
54:23.4
Her and the third one...
54:25.4
A year and a half.
54:27.4
Yeah, a year and a half.
54:32.4
The fourth one, hindi natin pinag-isapan eh.
54:34.4
Fourth one is actually,
54:35.4
I'm 15 years older.
54:38.4
So, that's a huge gap.
54:40.4
Yan, parang na-boy lang silang dalawa brown-out.
54:42.4
No, kasi napagod yung tatay ko,
54:44.4
puro babae daw eh.
54:48.4
So, 319 na maglalaki.
54:56.4
So, nagsi-section yung nanay ko.
54:59.4
Sama ko yung tatay ko.
55:01.4
And then, numabas yung doktor.
55:03.4
Sabi, babae ulit.
55:04.4
Kasi walang, you know, no ultrasounds.
55:07.4
Oh, congratulations Mr. Dionisio.
55:10.4
You have a bouncing baby girl.
55:19.4
Kailangan mag, you know,
55:20.4
walang pangalan for a girl
55:22.4
because talagang expectan nila lalaki.
55:26.4
okay dad, maglakad tayo.
55:28.4
Speaking of names,
55:29.4
Dan Rochelle, is that their names?
55:31.4
So, it's Danny and Rosie.
55:33.4
So, Dan Ro-chelle.
55:36.4
Pinsan ko si Michelle.
55:37.4
So, hence the shell.
55:39.4
How did it feel na yun,
55:40.4
yung pangalan mo?
55:46.4
you know, sa Pilipinas,
55:47.4
dalawa may first name.
55:49.4
Pero siya, dikit na dikit yung pangalan na yun.
55:53.4
Do they call you Danny?
55:56.4
When they're angry,
55:57.4
I'm called Rochelle.
55:59.4
Oh, just Rochelle?
56:01.4
In a very angry tone.
56:02.4
Parang, Rochelle!
56:06.4
What did I do now?
56:09.4
ba't di mo gilang combination yung name niya?
56:15.4
I kinda wanted her to have her own personality.
56:18.4
And her own person.
56:19.4
Like Rochelle then?
56:22.4
Actually, that was one of the names.
56:25.4
Yeah, then Rochelle.
56:26.4
Then as in, you know.
56:31.4
let her be her own person.
56:33.4
So hindi namin kundambayin.
56:36.4
having all this, right?
56:37.4
You have a publication.
56:40.4
You have a good family.
56:41.4
You have a good husband backing you up.
56:43.4
You have a daughter who's into sports,
56:45.4
not into drugs and all that stuff.
56:49.4
Double, double, double, knock, knock.
56:51.4
Ano pa ang gusto ng isang Dan Rochelle sa buhay niya?
57:04.4
Write my own book?
57:06.4
Like, write my own book?
57:07.4
I mean the book is,
57:08.4
feeling ko inevitable yung book eh.
57:10.4
I have like this concept.
57:11.4
Meron akong concept pero,
57:14.4
I don't know yet.
57:15.4
I haven't fleshed it out yet.
57:20.4
someone like you,
57:21.4
ano pa ang gusto mo sa buhay mo?
57:29.4
Like I haven't been?
57:32.4
Like your most candid interview ever, Paco.
57:37.4
Ngayon akong lumabas talaga ng ganto.
57:40.4
pag pinanood ko yung edit dito,
57:41.4
parang papalabas mo natin to.
57:44.4
Huwag mo nang palabasin.
57:50.4
Ano pa ang gusto ng isang Dan Rochelle?
57:54.4
Gusto ko lang talaga,
57:55.4
like, masaya si Phoebs,
57:56.4
masaya si Dennis,
57:59.4
everyone's healthy.
58:00.4
And I know that sounds like lip service.
58:04.4
it's too selfless.
58:08.4
This might be an opportunity for them to,
58:11.4
oh, this is what,
58:12.4
this is what mom wants,
58:20.4
Pakapatroll tayo.
58:23.4
Choose your own adventure.
58:25.4
Choose your own adventure.
58:26.4
Do you go to Colome?
58:27.4
Or do you go to Colome?
58:29.4
So, pero yun nga.
58:34.4
you know I haven't thought that far?
58:40.4
enjoying the moment.
58:41.4
It's all about moments.
58:43.4
Because I always say,
58:44.4
moments need to be created.
58:48.4
And memories create merchandise.
58:52.4
Negosyante nga eh.
58:57.4
sa music when you're performing,
59:02.4
When you're performing,
59:03.4
you create moments within the,
59:04.4
the pocket of the song.
59:08.4
turn into memories.
59:10.4
To immortalize the memory,
59:12.4
people go out and buy merchandise
59:14.4
to help them remember.
59:16.4
But it starts with the moment.
59:21.4
So let's talk about
59:24.4
sa amin yung na Michael Abad,
59:25.4
yung na J.J. Buencamino,
59:26.4
that was our moment.
59:27.4
A moment namin yun eh.
59:30.4
nung napanood na namin yung video,
59:31.4
tuwantuwa kami dahil,
59:32.4
it was the first time
59:33.4
that someone actually featured us.
59:35.4
And it was you guys.
59:39.4
you guys do really good work.
59:41.4
I've been watching the podcast.
59:42.4
This episode is brought to you by
59:47.4
not as good as Wendy Lindo
59:50.4
they get all the recognition.
59:52.4
Kami, we've been,
59:54.4
sa back of the bus kami eh.
59:55.4
So what have you been doing wrong?
59:59.4
I think our podcast is too long.
60:03.4
your podcast is just right
60:04.4
and it has content and quality.
60:06.4
Okay, masyado ba akong unabashed?
60:10.4
siguro si Sweetie Michael
60:11.4
marami tayong i-edit out dito.
60:15.4
Wala tayong i-edit out.
60:18.4
thank you for doing that for us.
60:19.4
Of course, of course.
60:20.4
Now, with regard to Meet the 818,
60:21.4
what can we expect?
60:26.4
Just a lot of collaborations.
60:31.4
so past Meet the 818,
60:33.4
and I'm just going to share this story
60:38.4
I've been in healthcare for about
60:44.4
staffing coordinator.
60:45.4
So home health, home care.
60:46.4
Sakit sa ulo yan,
60:47.4
as staffing coordinator.
60:48.4
Sakit sa ulo yan.
60:49.4
They call you in the middle of the night?
60:54.4
when I had Phoebe,
60:55.4
I moved up to being
60:56.4
the assistant to the COO.
61:00.4
that was also stressful.
61:02.4
Shout out to my old boss.
61:04.4
I'll see you next week.
61:08.4
the funny thing is,
61:11.4
we talk about moments,
61:12.4
we talk about dreams,
61:13.4
and we talk about motivation.
61:20.4
pieces just fall into place.
61:21.4
Oh, they fall into place.
61:23.4
Things just fall into place.
61:24.4
I couldn't agree more.
61:26.4
let's say you've worked your butt off,
61:27.4
you've made collaborations,
61:31.4
and you kind of just want to
61:32.4
get that finally.
61:38.4
What if it fails?
61:39.4
So, there are risk factors.
61:41.4
Are you a risk taker?
61:46.4
I take calculated risks.
61:49.4
Is there such a thing?
61:52.4
it's more of like weighing.
61:53.4
It's like a unicorn.
62:04.4
what do you call that?
62:05.4
Not bungee jumping.
62:09.4
You just go, right?
62:13.4
Taking all these in.
62:15.4
Starting a career.
62:17.4
Having your family behind you.
62:19.4
When did you know that,
62:20.4
you know what, guys?
62:21.4
This is what we're going to do.
62:22.4
That's why it came out.
62:30.4
earlier last year,
62:34.4
The owners sold the company
62:36.4
to a different company.
62:40.4
they actually shut down the home health department.
62:42.4
That was your department?
62:44.4
So, a lot of people got laid off.
62:46.4
So, at that point,
62:47.4
I was collaborating with my now job,
62:49.4
which is Cal Communications.
62:52.4
And I was writing blogs for them.
62:57.4
after that collaboration,
62:59.4
that particular collaboration,
63:02.4
hey, let's go on,
63:04.4
So, I was doing part-time with them,
63:07.4
when I got that whole,
63:09.4
Oh, this is still on?
63:12.4
You do it from home?
63:16.4
So, I was doing the writing at home.
63:20.4
I was holding down two jobs,
63:21.4
for a little bit.
63:22.4
So, you were moonlighting,
63:24.4
Yeah, technically.
63:25.4
Actually, technically, three jobs.
63:26.4
If you include the mid-day,
63:34.4
anong gagawin ko?
63:36.4
I've been with this
63:37.4
for eighteen years,
63:39.4
I don't feel like this is what
63:40.4
I want to do anymore.
63:44.4
And I could just feel it.
63:45.4
Like, you know when you feel
63:46.4
that there's change that's coming,
63:47.4
and you can just feel it.
63:48.4
Hindi mo na mapipigilan yun eh.
63:55.4
are you looking for a full-time writer?
64:02.4
anong sasabihin nila?
64:04.4
Can you explain that
64:05.4
to the introverts
64:07.4
The worst thing they can say is no.
64:12.4
people don't want to ask the question
64:14.4
because they're afraid
64:15.4
of failure and rejection.
64:17.4
But the thing is,
64:18.4
there comes a point in your life
64:19.4
where you just have to just go balls out
64:22.4
either you like me,
64:24.4
or you don't like me.
64:27.4
but you know your worth,
64:29.4
what you bring to the table.
64:31.4
Yan ang problema ko, Mike.
64:32.4
You know your worth.
64:37.4
you know your worth
64:38.4
and what you bring to the table,
64:41.4
and what you bring to the table
64:42.4
because without that,
64:44.4
how are you going to,
64:46.4
how are you going to move forward?
64:48.4
How are you going to say
64:49.4
that this is truly what you want,
64:50.4
and this is what you truly,
64:53.4
the direction of your life?
64:56.4
let's bring it home with,
64:57.4
how do you tell people
64:59.4
to train themselves
65:01.4
to know their worth?
65:06.4
it's their personal journey.
65:08.4
You can't tell them
65:11.4
You can't tell them
65:12.4
how it's going to come.
65:15.4
Does that make sense?
65:17.4
Do you know your worth?
65:19.4
Do I know my worth?
65:22.4
There are days when I don't,
65:24.4
but there are days that I do.
65:25.4
Does it make you smile?
65:28.4
Ladies and gentlemen,
65:29.4
Ms. Donna Rochelle Hubel.
65:42.4
Don't forget to like, subscribe,
65:44.4
and visit the website,
65:48.4
Thank you so much.
