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Parner nakikita mo na ba si Commodore Jeronimo Tuvilla dyan sa iyong Zoom session?

Magandang gabi po sa inyo Commodore, Siapong Incident Commander for the Oil Spill of Philippine Coast Guard.

Yes I can hear you well Commodore.

What about us, naririnig niyo po ba kami Commodore?

Can you hear me also Commodore?

Yes sir, you're coming loud and clear.

Para maliit po yung signal, ako kasi nasa studio po si Doris na sa bahay niya.

Sige umpisa na natin habang nandiyan pa yung signal niyo Commodore, baka mawala.

Pakilinaw niyo nga po, ano ba talaga ang tama?

May permit o walang permit itong barkong naglayag at lumubog dyan sa Mindoro?

For us, we just rely on of course yung mga pinresent sa official Facebook page or website ng Coast Guard.

But that's not our primary concern here in the ground.

Our main concern here is the mitigation efforts that we're doing.

So I guess the right office or unit that could answer that is yung aming national headquarters.

Okay. So ibig sabihin Commodore, mali pala yung tinanungan namin.

Hindi niyo masasagot kung lihite mo ba ang pinakita sa inyong permit o lisensya nitong lumubog na barko?

Commodore?

Sir can I just be clear sir?

My position here is I'm the incident commander of the oil spill response operations.

So whatever legality pertaining to the investigation right now sir, the one that could answer that is the national headquarters.

So you can probably course through your questions regarding that sa headquarters na lang sir.

What I can answer right now is our response efforts.

Apo. Commodore pero kung ganyan po ang sitwasyon natin, baka naman pwede nyo kami bigyan ng idea.

Paano po ba ang protocol? Paano po ba ang proseso bago makalapaglayaga ang isang barko?

All right. Basically, sa mga units namin, as you all know, we're deputized by the marina to do this.

Lahat ng mga documents are coming from the marina.

Sa amin po, sa Coast Guard, our duty there is to conduct pre-departure inspection.

So we have a policy na i-check yung mga documents niya.

Whatever will be presented na valid date.

Commodore, pumapangit po yung signal.

So considering na yung titignan ng barko before you boarded it like that, yung mga basic observations mo, isasight mo yan.

Then there's a checklist also that you need to assess. Meron yan. Alam ng mga natin yan.

It's also under their regulation sa ibang ahensya.

Then yan ma'am, yan yung basic na tinitignan sa station na personnel or kung saan, kung sa substation ba yan, umalis or what.

Pero pinaka-important, pinaka-basic po ay yung maayos at hindi pa expired na permit. Tama?

Yes po ma'am Doris. Tama po.

Meron po ba mga pagkakataon na pag nag-checklist na kayo, kulang ito, ganyan-ganyan.

Pwede pa silang payagan na umalis kahit kunyari sa sinasabi mong checklist ay hindi tuma, hindi kumpleto?

Well number one is of course there's what you call a special permit to navigate.

It depends. That is also issued by Marina. Pag depending on what type of document there, nakasulat naman, nakasaad yan doon.

Doon po yan ma'am binibigay. Parang it's sort of a provisional certificate for you to depart.

But again ma'am, probably yung mga other questions pertaining to the functions of the maritime safety, you can ask it with the appropriate office ng Coast Guard.

Yes sir. Right now yung ating Unified Incident Command team natin, tuloy-tuloy yung ano namin, we still have that 11 primary barangays that we're mobilizing and doing all this mitigating response right now.

Collaborative yung efforts natin dito sir. Yung the local government is also with us with our operations day-to-day, including the army and the police. We're also mobilized to support our response.

And sa ngayon po, I can say that we're still in high hopes that everything in the near future will be true and over. And we will continue to do this effort para po sa ating mga kababayan dito sa Oriental Mindoro.

And I'm sure that the other regions that are also affected is ganoon din. Tuloy-tuloy lang yung ating pagtutulungan para mag-ipisan natin...

Opo. Pero motherhood po kasi yun Commodore. Pasensya na po.

Lalong madaling panahon.

Opo. Opo. Specifically po, malapit-lapit na po ba natin ma-contain ang pagkalat ng langis o malayo pa po tayo doon?

Hindi pa tapos ang problema nito, nag-uumpisa pa lang.

Of course, sabi ko nga with other interviews, we really need some technical assistance pertaining lalo sa ating remote control underwater vehicle, yung ROV na yan, para meron tayong eyes.

May eyes tayo doon sa bottom. What is really happening on the bottom where it is located para makita natin if technically dumating na ang mga experts that will utilize that equipment,

ma-assess natin maige where the leak is coming from. If they have some technical know-how in determining how much is coming out, ang makakapag... Can you hear me sir?

Opo. Opo. Go ahead.

Yes. Yes. Tuloy niyo lang po.

Excuse me sir. Sir can you hear me sir?

Tuloy niyo lang po. Naririnig ko po kayo Commodore.

Hello. Tawagan niyo na lang sa telepono si Commodore. Pumapangit ang signal niya. Mag-telepono na lang tayo.

Sir can you hear me sir?

Patatawagan namin kayo sir sa telepono. Kasi naririnig namin kayo paulit-ulit po tayo. Patatawagan po namin kayo sa telepono para makausap po namin kayo ng maayos Commodore.

Kasi ang gusto sana natin ipalinaw talaga Bigor niya ay tungkol doon sa hindi natin... Kasi ang sinasabi ng taga Marina based doon sa Senate hearing kahapon,

hindi pa kumpleto. Oo. Walang problema doon. Nag-file siya. Walang problema. Nag-submit siya ng requirements. Okay yun. Maagap siyang mag-submit.

But the fact remains wala pang ini-issue na amendment doon sa kanyang CPC. So ang tanong ngayon, pwede bang umalis ang isang barko kung may follow-up na dokumento na permiso galing sa Marina?

Yan ang gusto kong malinawan. Hindi naman kayang sagutin ni Commodore kasi hindi siya in-charge doon."

Q1. Si Commodore na sa linya na ulit para magkaintindihan po tayo?

Q1. Nasang banda na ba tayo sa clean-up operations po natin? Are we nearing the end o hindi? Mahaba pa ito at lalo pang kakalat ang langis.

Sir I'll elaborate on that. So explain ko lang po. Right now, ang efforts natin, we divided it into two. We have the offshore wherein doon siya sa last known,

ang ating mga vessels and decontracted vessels by the shipping company, nandoon yan sa offshore, sa gitna ng dagat, sa last known position niya. We do that from morning up to before evening.

Nandoon yan. Yan ang nakikita niyo minsan na may oil spill boom na naka U-shape trying to recover the oil. Dito sa shoreline, ang efforts natin tuloy-tuloy pa rin.

Then ang clean-up natin. Again, I'll go back doon sa kanina. Hindi tayo makapagbigay ng data regarding kung kailan matatapos yan or what because we still need some technical data.

How we have that is of course, makakatulong primarily ang remote control underwater vehicle natin. So alam naman po natin yan, if we cannot see, wala tayong mata, we don't have eyes doon sa lugar talaga kung nasaan yan,

that we could be able to see 400 meters po sa ilalim natin. Initially, yan ang information natin po. Mas lalong mababalidate yan kung meron tayong ROV and madetermine natin where the part is,

yung source doon ang gagaling. At the same time, what is the needed action na technical for that to really stop.

So Commodore, sorry to batin, hanggang ngayon po hindi pa natin alam kung ang lumutang ng mga langis at pumunta sa dalampasigan ay langis ng barko mismo o langis na nasa loob ng barko. Ibig sabihin yung cargo niya.

Well, right now sir, ako being also a former ship captain, ako, ang inestimate ko, I just assess muna unang una how much yung nakasulat sa information na binigay. It's 800,000 liters of IFO.

Then yung kanyang fuel on hand, which is of course, ang makakapag-ano talaga yan, yung information is there in the bottom. It's very difficult to just presume na ito na lahat or may laman pa ba o nakalabas na lahat.

Hindi natin yan pumano. Kasi every day, we're still doing it. We still see some. So mas maganda talaga sir, I want a validated para makapagsalita ako sa inyo, to have an eye doon sa ilalim.

Kaya nga po, I'm not asking you, I'm not forcing you to go down. Sinasabi ko lang is, as we speak, wala pa tayong idea kung ang langis na nalabas ngayon na nandyan sa dalampasigan at sa dagat ay langis ng cargo o langis mismo ng barko. Kasi ang barko may sarili ding fuel.

That's why we need that remote control underwater vehicle na mayroon ding ipapadala from the ship owner. Nakita ko sa statement nila na mukhang parating in a few days time.

Yes sir. That is the only time, pag nakuha na natin yan, we can determine kung ang tumatagas ay fuel ng barko o cargo ng barko.

Tama sir. I'll give you an analogy with that sir. It's 1 to 10. Sa length na 1 to 10, ang barko, yung pangkonsumo niya probably na sa 1. The 2 to 10 is yun yung cargo niya.

So with the extent of the spill right now dito sa area, I presume na yun yung laman niya. But kasi umaabot naman sa ibang areas po. Then per my experience, I was involved with the empty Solar One incident in Guimaras.

That is more than 2 million metric tons of oil. Yung magnitude niya, ganyan din yung naging effort kasi namin. If I recollect, yung aming experience there.

But of course mayroon lang ibang discrepancy. Of course sa depth niya. Then yung effort na ginawa talaga. Massive. The weather effect sir.

Laking factor ng weather. So yung Kutubno Commodore, cargo na ito? A part of the cargo ang natapon?

Sa akin sir. Sa akin yun yung aking pananaw.

But it has to be validated.

Correct. But I've also asked yung... Kasi may mga experts na tayo dito na foreign experts. This day, we have the Japan Coast Guard strike team.

Parehas kami yung Coast Guard. We serve aboard ships. May mga assumption kami na ito na nga.

Ito na yun. Pero hindi pa lubusan na lutang siguro Commodore. Based sa pantahan mo, sa assessment mo, malamang marami pa sa loob,

I mean sa ilalim ng dagat. Hindi pa nakawala ang kabuoan.

Yes sir. Yung makakapag-ano kasi yan sir. Ang aking solar one, ginamitan din ng ROV yan. Nakikita nung ROV yung paglabas ng oil and the source.

Kasi pag nakikita mo yan sa baba, siyempre sir ang viscosity ng produkto na ito, medyo makapal siya.

Malapot.

Pagka meron kang eyes on the bottom then determined mo na yung source, nakikita mo yung paglabas niya. Nakakaroon ka ng assessment, how much is going out.

You can just imagine it's like a mushroom. Mababa yung stem niya then sa taas pagangat sa surface, nakapalapad siya.

Yan ang aming pinag-uusapan din sir kanina nung nag-meeting kami ng mga Japon and representative ng ITOP from UK.

Nag-brainstorming kami sir actually. Every hour operation we conduct meetings. Yan lang ang masasabi ko regarding sa inyong tanong."

Q1. May nakikita ng mga nangangamatay ng sea creatures?

Dito sa shoreline na aming sinusuyod araw-araw, hindi namin nakikita yan. Yung official statement tingin ko mga galing dyan, there will be testing from before.

So far, yung mga ayan siya nakasama sa ating Unified Incident Command, I'm also waiting for yung mga results na ganoon and other investigation or survey that's being conducted by the other agencies.

Q1. Napapag-usapan na din po ba yung posibilidad na susunugin na lang?

Yung isang eksperto na nakausap namin sir from the UP. Taga-UP yan. Sabi niya baka pwedeng sunugin.

Hindi pwedeng susunugin yung baka pwede. So I think yung mga other experts talaga sir, I have asked yung Hapon, hindi naman ganoon kasi yung procedure nila.

Later, just to highlight, yung Japan Coast Guard sir, when they conducted their survey with our response operation and yung collection namin ng waste, both oily water and debris,

accordingly sir, i-highlight ko lang, they commended us, the group, for doing the same thing that they are doing in Japan.

So yung response effort natin sir, the same sa kanila. They haven't, ito sila mga experts, they haven't recommended such thing.

So it's still collecting the waste and disposing it properly probably. Yan lang yung anong natin...

Bakit daw Commodore, bakit daw hindi pwedeng sunugin? Anong dahilan?

We haven't had any experience na nagsusunog sir. I think you should ask DNR kasi yan sir, yung collected waste will be given a permit also ng DNR sa transporting yan.

Yung pagdadumpan yan or pag repository or something would also be supervised by the DNR sir.

Actually hindi namin mahagilip yung DNR Commodore. Buti nga kayo nagpa-interview po sa amin.

All unified na pala ako sir sa question and answer.

You are the point person. Kaya naman po yung in-charge. Kaya naman yung incident commander.

With dictating how the flow of operations with our response is.

Okay. Sige po. Tatawag kami from time to time Commodore kung anong development or kung may major development,

lalo na pagdating po ng remote, yung underwater na remote controlled para maayos natin, makita natin.

All of us are anticipating that time sir.

By the way, one last. Yung strategy ba natin pag may equipment na iaahon, yun ba yan? Ang objective natin, iaahon natin yung barko from the dagat?

Ang una sir kasi yan, basically when you deploy that, ang trabaho niya is assess muna.

Then after that, same din sa Solar One, there will be planning. Lahat ng elements or effects na pwede mangyari would be determined by the experts, yung planners niyan.

Nung kinumit na yung magpupunta dito na SALBOR company. Yan sila mag-determine yan sir. Of course we will be there to observe and assess whatever their recommendation is.

Okay. Sige. Thank you Commodore. We hope to see you again. Hopefully next time na mag-interview po tayo, maayos na yung internet.

Thank you. Maraming salamat Commodore. Mangingat po kayo.

Thank you very much sir. Magandang gabi po.

Magandang gabi din po sa inyo. Si Commodore Jeronimo Tovilia po yan, ang incident commander for the oil spill dyan sa Coast Guard.