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press briefing this morning March 28. President Ferdinand R. Marcos Jr. presided over the
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sectoral meeting this morning. Tinalakay dito ang proposed merger of Land Bank of the Philippines
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and the Development Bank of the Philippines. The proposed merger aims to have a more robust
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and competitive bank that will provide better and more accessible financial services for Filipinos.
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Aside from this, the updates on the proposed military and uniformed personnel pension reform
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was also discussed. And to give us more details on this, kasama natin ngayon si Finance Secretary
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Benjamin Diokno. Good morning Secretary Diokno. Thank you. As mentioned earlier, two topics
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were taken up today, both what I consider game-changing. The first one is the merger
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of the Development Bank of the Philippines and the Land Bank of the Philippines. By merging the two,
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it will now become the number one bank in the Philippines, ahead of Banco de Oro in terms of
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assets. Now, the President expressed the desire to merge the two, to make it the biggest bank in
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the country because of the recent financial developments abroad. And that's really the
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best practice. The biggest bank usually is owned by the state globally. Now, he expressed concern
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in the process of merging that none of the services provided by either bank will be lost.
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And we assured him that with the merger, because both the Land Bank and DBP are universal banks,
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they do almost the same, except that one is focused on agri, the other one on industrial
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projects. But they do practically the same. And that as a result of the merger, there will be
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savings, and the merged bank will be stronger. And in fact, one likely outcome of this is that
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maybe the interest rate that they will charge will be lower than either of the two at the moment.
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Now, in terms of number of branches, right now,
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let me
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well, where is that? Okay, slide 14. Do you have that? No, no, I have it here, I'm sure.
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Between the two of them, of course, as you know, the Land Bank is the bigger bank, right?
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It has how many branches? Land Bank has 752 branches at the moment. And the Development
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Bank of the Philippines has 147 branches. Now, we map them, and maybe as a result of the merger,
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only 22 branches of DBP will be retained. And the plan is that Land Bank will have
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a branch in all LGUs in the Philippines. It could be a combination of light branches or
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big branches, ATMs, etc. Now, the advantage of this is that we will be able to save a lot of
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money for the national government. We estimate that the savings will be in the neighborhood of
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at least for the first year around, let me be more precise, 5 billion.
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Let me see, okay.
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For the projected operating cost savings due to the merger could reach at least 5.3 billion
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per year. So for the next four years, at least 20 billion, okay? And this is even understated
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because this does not include revenues that can be derived from the sale of redundant assets
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of DBP's various properties, such as its head office in Makati, a property in BGC, various
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branch properties, equipment, and licenses, and income that can be derived from the proceeds
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of that sale, okay? So any question on the first topic?
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None? No question? Let me go to the second topic, which is again, this is another game-changing
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reform. I said this is more complicated than the first topic because I told the President,
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your predecessors have decided to kick the can down the road. They don't want to address this.
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I usually call this the elephant in the room. Nobody would like to touch it, and they simply
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ignore it. And this is the military and uniform personnel pension reform, okay?
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So we met with DILG Secretary Benhar Abalos and DND Secretary Galvez,
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and let me describe to you the present pension system. The pension system covered
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by this are those from the Armed Forces of the Philippines, the Bureau of Jail Management
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and Penology, the Bureau of Fire Protection, the PNP, the Philippine Public Safety College,
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the Philippine Coast Guard, and the Bureau of Corrections.
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Now, the current pension system is like this. Now, it's fully funded by the national government.
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In other words, it's appropriated annually in the budget, but there's no contribution
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from the retirees, okay? That's a unique kind of pension system.
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Right now, I think it's in the neighborhood of around 120 to 130 billion pesos
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in the 2023 budget. The MUP pension is automatically indexed to the salary
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of the personnel of the same rank. In other words, if you are a retiree, if you're a general
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getting X amount of money, if the salary of the incumbent is doubled, you get your pension
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doubled also, okay? Third, when MUPs or military uniformed personnels retire, they're given
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one rank higher, okay? Granted one rank higher, and so a pension can be received after 20 years
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of service with no minimum pensionable age. So some of them, they get recruited at the age of 20.
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Still, they can already retire at the age of 40, okay? And you know how long their lives are, right?
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Military people, they live longer than us, okay? Some at the age of 90, okay? So they retire at 40.
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They get their pension up to age 90. Isn't that ridiculous, okay? So we want to reform them,
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and right now, the situation is so bleak, for example, that if you compare
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the current operating expenditures or maintenance and operating expenditures of the whole AAP
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and the capital outlay, so the money they buy for airplanes, etc., etc., it is actually
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much less than the amount of pension that we are allocating for the retirees.
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So there will come a time when the current budget will only be about a third, one-third or one-fourth
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of the money that we're paying for the pensioners, okay? So we have to really address
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that issue. It's not sustainable, and I said if this goes on, there will be a fiscal collapse.
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So what are the major recommendations? Again, let me compare. You have three groups of people,
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the military uniformed personnel, you have the private sector, the SSS, those who retired
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under SSS, and those who retired under GSIS, government workers. The average monthly pension,
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this is monthly, of a military personnel is 40,000 pesos. Compare that to what an SSS
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retiree gets. It's 4,528, okay? And what a GSIS personnel gets, 13,600. So that the
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pension that is received by a military pensioner is nine times higher than the average pension
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of a pensioner under the social security system, and three times higher than the average pension
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under the government service insurance system. So we have four proposals. Number one
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is for the reform to apply to all active personnel and new entrants. So once the new system is
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adapted, all those who are in active service and the new recruits will have to pay their way,
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right? No longer free, okay? Number two, removal of automatic indexation of pension to the salary
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of active personnel of similar ranks. So let me repeat that. Removal of automatic indexation of
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pension to the salary of active personnel of similar rank. And third, the military uniform
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personnels will receive their pension starting at 56 years old, or now it's now adjusted to 57,
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okay? 57 years old. And number four, mandatory contributions will be required for active
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personnel and new entrants similar to the GSIS pensioners, okay? So any questions?
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Okay. Joe Manahan, ABS-CBN.
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Good morning, sir. Sir, sa apat na option na binigay niyo, saan po daw masliming si Secretary Galvez?
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No, there's unanimity that we talked with them, with Secretary Galvez. We talked to
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Secretary Benhar-Avalos, and they are generally agreed with all the four. Siguro meron lang siyang
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question dito sa number three. Kasi right now, I think ang optional retirement is after serving
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for 20 years. Gusto niyo sana siguro, eh, gawin na daw na after 25 years, yung optional
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retirement. But he will consult with the military personnel on this. But in general, the whole
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cabinet or the whole, those who attended the meeting are in agreement with measures one, two,
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three, and four, okay? Sir, pakabalang po, sir. Doon naman sa merger,
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sino po yung clarification na po, sino yung surviving entity, land bank or DBP po?
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Definitely land bank. Kasi land bank is, I think, at least four times bigger than the DBP,
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and that the existing board of LB, land bank, will survive, okay?
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Okay. Tona Yu, Inquirer Radio.
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Sir, just a quick follow-up on Job's question. How about the President? Is he inclined to approve
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your recommendations dun sa military retirement?
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Yeah, he's part of the decision-making.
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Lahat doon, okay sa kanya yun?
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Okay sa kanya yun.
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Okay. Eden Santos, Net25.
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Secretary, good morning po. Regarding po dun sa magiging contribution, yung mga active
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military personnel and yung mga new entry...
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Recruits.
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Recruits. Magkano po yung magiging monthly contribution nila, if in case?
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Usually ang contribution will depend on your salary, okay? Siguro meron siya ditong number eh.
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Magiging gradual yung hindi naman immediate na katulad ng government workers.
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So for the first three years, magiging
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ang contribution nila is 5% of the salary,
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and then contribution ng national government will be 16%.
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That's the... And then for the next three years, it will be increased to 7% from 5 to 7.
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And then yung NG share naman will decline to 14.
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Kasi ang under it is 21 eh. I think that's the contribution of government workers.
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And then years thereafter, the MUP share will be increased to 9.
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And then NG share to 12. Okay, so gradual yung...
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Secretary, alam naman po natin na maraming daring mga ganyang recommendations before.
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Pero ito po bang magandang reforms? Kailangan pang dumaan sa Kongreso?
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Kailangan. Kailangan dumaan sa Kongreso. So in-approve ni Presidente ito,
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and we will push this in to Congress.
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And we are already talking to some people in Congress who will push this.
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Yan po kasi nagiging problema before kaya hindi po natutuloy yung...
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Minsan nga hindi na nakakarating sa Kongreso.
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Na-install pa lang sa administration pa lang.
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But the President is recognizing the need for this.
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Talagang ipo-push niya.
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Hindi po kaya natin... Hindi po kaya maging reason para yung mga military personnel natin,
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yung mga sundalo ay mag-demoralize, mag-kumalma, mag-a-class.
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Hindi naman. Kasi as you know, recently, 2018, dinobli yung swelda nila eh.
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And kaya gradual yung contribution nila from 5 to 7 to 9.
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And so I think naintindihan din nila that they have to, again, mag-cooperate with the rest of society.
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Otherwise, mag-blow up talaga, mag-babaloon talaga yung deficit natin.
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Definitely may mawawalan.
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Kasi there's redundancy, and then mag-reduce yung number of branches.
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But there's usually a package naman, voluntary.
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And then they can choose to retire on their...
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Since they are government official, they can retire under GSIS, or we will offer an unattractive package for those who will be separated.
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Wala pa tayong estimate at the moment.
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Kaya yung parang full effectivity ng merger.
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And there are anxieties raised over this merger.
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So what made you finally make the President approve this?
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And what are the reasons exactly to be able to...
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Or what are your responses to the anxieties that are being raised over this merger?
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As you know, this merger has been approved during the time of Pinoy.
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President Aquino.
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President Aquino through the government of GCG.
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It was not implemented.
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It was taken up during the 30s term.
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It was also not implemented.
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But given what's happening now globally,
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you have banks which are now being closed, right?
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For example, Credit Suisse.
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Who would have thought that Credit Suisse will go under?
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So there's really a strong need for solidifying the government bank.
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We're not saying that DBP or land bank have problems.
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Yun sa nasabing anong argument ng DBP.
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Why fix if there's no problem?
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Hindi naman broken.
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We're not saying that the current system is broken.
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But as policy makers, we have to constantly seek better ways of doing things.
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Especially if we want to improve the performance of a particular government agency.
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Yun lang naman.
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And this is also consistent with our right-sizing.
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That's the focus also of the President.
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Right-sizing the bureaucracy.
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Because if we are able to do that successfully,
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then we'll have more money for really essential projects.
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Like healthcare, education for our people, and infrastructure.
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So yan.
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Sir, one last.
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Regarding naman the issue on the pension.
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Because you mentioned that it still has to go through the Congress.
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And in the past, talagang hindi rin umaabot halos sa Kongreso.
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So meron po ba tayong ibang plano kung sakaling hindi na naman ito ma-approve?
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Because you mentioned a while ago na talagang malaking ikakalugi na kung hindi ito maipatupad pa.
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I think President Marcos Jr. is in a best position to push through with this reform.
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As I mentioned, his predecessors simply kicked the can forward without success.
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Why did I say that?
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Because remember that he's, I think, the first President who was elected by a significant majority.
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60%.
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Yung ibang presidente, they were only elected by 25% because of the number of candidates.
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So he really has very strong support.
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And he's willing to spend his political capital for this.
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Because nakikita niyo na, pag hindi niya ginawa ito, there will be fiscal collapse in the future.
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Secondly, Mr. Marcos also has very strong control of both houses of Congress.
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So it's going to be less problematic for him to push forward such a major reform.
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Harley Valbuena, DZME.
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Hi, good morning.
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Sir, the Congress already ratified the bill amending the fixed term of military officers.
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So if this bill becomes a law, do you believe, sir, that this will become a hindrance or a factor
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for the implementation of the military pension reform if this pushes through, sir?
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Absolutely not.
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That's separate.
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That's a separate issue.
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Okay, thank you.
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Alvin Baltazar, PBS.
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Secretary, magandang umaga po.
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Secretary, dun sa mga mawawalan ng trabaho, dun sa merging,
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paano ba yung magiging proseso dun sa notification para dun sa mga hindi pa palarin?
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At will you go over the records kung sino yung mga malapit na mag-retire?
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Para at least medyo mag-aang sa loob nila yung...
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As in any merger, etc., there are some who will be affected.
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For example, in any reorganization, there are people who will be affected.
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And that's why we provide a very liberal separation package.
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So they can use that, they can invest it in new business if they want to, or they can live on it.
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But we are doing this for the greater good.
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Kasi ayaw mo naman na to employ people who are not doing anything, right?
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And there are benefits for...
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For example, if there are branches that you need to collapse, why not collapse them, right?
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So there are efficiency gains to be made.
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So this will benefit the whole country.
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Secretary, follow-up lang po.
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Sabi niyo po, i-implement yun before the end of the year.
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So kailan po tayo magsisimulang magbigay ng notification?
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I'd say that the merger will take effect before the end of the year.
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So may meron naman transition period yan.
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So I don't know when, kung kailan sila magbigay ng notification.
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Siguro mga X number of days after the merger is formalized, then you'll be notified.
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Okay. I believe that's the last question.
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Do you still have time for more?
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Okay, one more. Chona Yu, Inquirer Radio.
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Sir, in 2016, the President opposed the merger of DBP and Land Bank.
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2016?
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Who's that? Who's the President at that time?
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President Marcos. He said na oposed sya dito kasi it will deprive farmers sa access sa Agricultural Bank.
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Why the sudden change?
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I don't... Personally, I don't...
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Sa Senate po.
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2016?
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2016.
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When he's running for Vice President.
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Nag-change talaga yung... sabi ko nga yung international developments. Big banks are folding, etc.
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Plus, no, he hasn't changed his mind since he was elected President. I know that he was for this proposal.
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Okay. Thank you.
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One more question, sir. Sa water crisis, sir. Ano ko ba ang ginagawa? Anong magkano ang budget alated for El Nino preparations ng government?
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Siguro si Secretary Pangtanganon ang kausapin natin.
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Thank you so much, Secretary Giocno, for briefing us on the proposed merger of Land Bank of the Philippines
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and Development Bank of the Philippines, as well as the proposed military and uniformed personnel pension reform program.
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Thank you very much. Have a good afternoon, everyone.


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