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You're a woman, just to be sure about it.
But you're a lesbian.
Your partner or former partner is Maan Palaganas?
How long was your relationship with her?
Three years, okay.
What is your complaint against Maan Palaganas?
Okay, before we together, we are partner.
Then she advised me together about the business.
Then she tell me about her house, family problem.
So their house, the Udang, the bank, almost two million.
So that's interest very high.
So interest very high.
So she tell me, maybe I can borrow the mama, baby.
Only one year, baba Ben, baba Joe finish the wars.
Baba, baba Joe, baba Ben wars in America.
So only one year finish the 25 years war.
Yung ano po, yung total nung nakuha sa kanya, kung sa pera po,
150,000 US dollar.
Over a period of three years.
Yun yung naibigay, na-deposit niya sa lahat ng account nila.
Meron tayong katibayan, no?
May mga deposit, ano po.
Bakit siya nakapagbigay ng ganong amount in a period of three years?
Kasi nga po, ang ano nga po nila, nag-business sila, mag-be-business.
So si babae, si Maan, pinaniniwalang magne-negosyo sila.
Ngayon, nakukuna niya ng pera itong si Lipin?
Hindi po, na-meet niya po ito.
Alam niya, nung na-meet niya palang ito, si Pinghun,
na ang ano niya dito, purpose niya sa pagpunta sa Pilipinas ay mag-business.
Tapos naging sila.
So ang ano niya po talaga, mag-anap ng business.
Kaya nga, nung nakakakuha siya ng pera kay Lupin, may relasyon na sila?
Apo, may relasyon na sila.
Anong sinasabing nung ni Maan para every time na nakukuha siya ng pera kay Lupin?
Ano po, kasi yun nga, nag-sabi daw po sa kanya, kinuwento na yung bahay nila,
nakal-mortgage sa bangko.
Nagbabahid sila malaking interes.
So siyempre, dahil girlfriend niya po, sabi niya, ang gusto mo, ako nalang muna ang mag-anos.
Pero ang nangihingi ng pera si Maan?
Hinihingi ng pera si Maan.
Tapos, may relasyon sila at that time.
Hanggang kailan siya huling nagbigay ng pera?
Nung 2021 po ang huling.
2021. Okay. Naghiwalay na sila?
2022 po sila naghiwalay.
Kasi nung 2020 po, diba nag-COVID?
Umuwi po siya sa Taiwan.
So two years po siyang hindi nakabalik dito.
Pagbalik niya po nung July 2022 na wala na pong pera.
Lahat ng pera ang ubus na.
So bukod sa pera, may nakuha pa ba sa kanya?
Pero po, at saka gusto niya po kasing mabawi yung mga gamit niya doon.
May sasakyan, may motor.
May sasakyan. Kanino nakaristro yung sasakyan?
Sa pangalan nga lang po niya.
Pero yung pinambilin sa sasakyan, sa kanya?
Sa kanya po lahat yun.
May katibayan tayo para doon?
Bukod sa sasakyan, ano pa?
Motor, tricycle at saka land, lupa, lote.
Yung lote, kanino nakapangalan?
Sa kanya po lahat talaga.
Nagsama ba sila sa isang bahay?
Ano po, hindi naman po kasi siya mag-stay dito.
Pag umuwi siya nung 2019 to 2020 before mag-COVID.
Pag umuwi siya, nakaka-stay siya ng pinakamatagal 2 months balik Taiwan.
Yung tinitirhan nila?
Bahay po. Bahay po nila, Ma'an.
Ma'an, nandito si Liu Pinwen.
Ano po, she is your lesbian partner, tama po ba?
She was your lesbian partner.
Okay, bakit po kayo nagkahiwalay?
Hindi ko po, alam sa kanya.
Bumuwi na lang po siya rito.
Kasi ang usapan po namin,
ikaw corte na lang po ako.
Nag-usap na po kami, tapos na po.
Pero ano po yung naging pag-uusap niyo po, Ma'an?
Para malaman din po namin kung ano pano po namin matutulungan yung ex mo.
Ano yung naging pag-uusap niyo, ma'am?
Nag-usap na po kami sa harap ng attorney.
Sabi pa nga po namin, magdala rin sila ng attorney para hindi bayad.
Hindi po sila nagdala.
Tapos, ang sabi po ng attorney, kung ano ang concern niyo,
sabihin niyo na lang sa akin.
At ako ang pag-uusap kay Ma'an.
Yung po ang usapan namin.
Pero yung ginagawa po nilang pagpapahiya sa akin ngayon,
hindi po po talagang matatanggap yan.
Q. Hiningi niya po ba ito o kusa niyo kinuha?
Ma'an, you know that's all my money.
I don't want to talk to you.
I want to talk to you in the court.
I didn't ever do harm or bad to you.
Yeah, because you don't want to talk to me
about the lawyer office, about the...
Woman, how will I talk to you, Ma'an?
About the blonde guy, you don't want to talk to me.
Your mama don't want to talk to me.
I'm buying my family.
You get my all, everything, and money,
and then you and your mama say don't want to talk to me.
Yeah, because you're harassing me.
You're harassing me, even your friend.
You even go to Infanta.
You just say don't want to talk to me
because you get everything.
The car, the land, the boat.
In our law, it's in my name, okay?
Even your house, your mama will die.
Even your house, I borrow the bank.
Yeah, I borrow mama first
because I think your life is more better,
but no, now you say you don't want to come back anymore.
You just tell me I don't want to come back anymore.
I don't want to talk to you.
So, how about your jail?
Your jail, Mary, no money.
Your papa go to agency, Manila, Seven Tides,
because he want to go, he want to work in America.
Seven Tides agency.
You use my money, borrow papa.
Yeah, I don't complain.
Just come back my money, okay?
Where? Did I get it?
I told you I will talk to you in court, okay?
I don't complain to you.
You just come back my money, it's okay.
I have a new life.
Okay, Maan, since you don't want to talk to us,
maybe you can just listen.
I can respect their decision.
Where did they meet?
Where is the place?
In Villasis, Pangasinan.
Okay, based on what I heard,
based on his theory,
what is important for us is
does he have evidence of the money he gave,
did he buy a car?
I don't know him.
Ma'am, I'm not talking to you.
I'm talking to the person here.
Okay, ma'am, I will talk to you later
if you are willing to talk to me.
Are you willing to talk to me?
So, you have evidence?
Yes, I have evidence.
And all of these were given
because they have a relationship with Maan, right?
You had a relationship with Maan.
You love each other, supposedly.
So, you were on a dating relationship with Maan.
And during that period,
you gave money to her,
you gave money to her father,
you gave money to her relatives.
And everything was through Maan.
I can talk to mama.
Mama only in Tagalog.
But you gave all this money
because you had this relationship with Maan, right?
You had this dating relationship with Maan, correct?
This is a different situation for us.
So, for our netizens,
vowsy is applicable here.
Because vowsy is violence against women and children.
Vowsy is a crime committed against a woman
who is in a dating relationship
or was in a dating relationship with somebody else.
And that somebody else can be another woman.
Even if Lupin is a lesbian,
she's still a woman.
So, she's still entitled to the benefits
or whatever violence is committed against women and children.
One of the crimes that vowsy covers
is economic abuse.
I hope you're following what I'm saying.
Anyway, she will just explain to you.
So, for our netizens,
let's remember that the victim of vowsy is a woman.
And it doesn't matter if she's a lesbian, okay?
So, since these incidents,
this economic abuse that we call it,
happened because she had a dating relationship with a woman,
she's still a woman even if she's a lesbian, right?
So, that's still vowsy.
So, it's a case of economic abuse.
It's possible that there's a possible scuffle, etc., etc.
But for me, vowsy is clearer.
So, for our netizens,
vowsy is applicable
even if the victim is a tomboy
because she's still a woman.
Even if the victim is the woman in the relationship.
Do you understand?
It's just different.
It's very unique.
But if you look at the elements of vowsy,
I think it's applicable.
So, we have a case of vowsy again, sir.
As long as you have your documents
or pieces of evidence that would show
that you were giving her money
during the time that you had this relationship with her.
At least that is how we intend to work on your case.
We'll file a case for violence against women and children.
It is very interesting because it's a very unique,
the situation is very unique.
In this case, it will be the lesbian
who will be going after the woman in the relationship.
But it doesn't matter
because you are still biologically a woman.
So, you are still entitled
to the provisions of violence against women and children.
I hope my netizens understood my explanation
and they learned the nuances of this situation
in relation to violence against women and children.
I hope you understood what I said.
Ma'am, are you still there?
Yes, sir. Yes, I am.
As you said, let's meet in court.
Okay, ma'am. Let's meet in court.
Thank you very much, Ms. Liu Pinwen.
And we'll give you the contact details of Attorney William Moore
so that he can help you about legal matters, okay?
But you have to file this all the way to Villases, Pangasinan, right?
Ms. Melody, usapin din po namin kayo off-air, okay?
Thank you very much and have a great day.
Okay. Salamat po.
Meron pong question si Ading.
Mababawi pa po ba yung mga properties na nakapangalan na daw po kay Ma'an?
Well, as long as we would be able to show na source ng pera ay itong si Taiwanese.
Kasi po, kung ang source ng pera ay si Taiwanese,
yan pong property na yan ay being held in trust.
Meron po tayong tinatawag na implied trust.
Kung isang pag-aari po,
kung ang pera na pinabili sa isang pag-aari ay galing sa ibang tao,
yung pong property na yan ay tinatawag nating held in trust
by that person on behalf of the person who owns the money in buying the property.
So pwede pa rin pong ma-recover yan.
At saka criminal case naman po ipa-file natin,
kung sakaling sumampas sa korte at mag-offer ng areglo,
isa po yan sa hingin natin ma-recover yung property.