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No lies. No distortions. Just the facts. And the truth about issues that matter.
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Facts First with Christian Esguerra
00:23.0
Greetings po sa inyong lahat. Ako po si Christian Esguerra at welcome po sa ating episode ng Facts First ngayong gabi.
00:29.0
Muna una po gusto ko po humingi ng paumanhin sa inyo. Dahil late po yung simulan natin yun. One hour late tayo. Maraming maraming salamat sa Philippine Airlines.
00:38.0
Kaya napaka hagardo versosa natin yung gabi at late na late tayo sa ating programa.
00:43.0
Thank you Philippine Airlines for a very delayed flight. Kasi dapat alas 6 pa nandito na po tayo sa Cagayan de Oro.
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Pero dumating yung aeroplano natin, nagland tayo past 7pm. Dahil yung pagalis natin kanina sa Naia na 420, lumampas ng halos 1 hour and a half.
01:01.0
Hindi ko alam kung ano nangyari pero sabi ng iba talaga raw madalas ma-late.
01:05.0
Anyway, nandito tayo ngayon. Pinilit po natin ituloy yung programa ng ito dahil po napaka importante yung pag-uusapan natin.
01:12.0
Ayoko nang magpatumpit-tumpit pa dahil inabalan natin yung ating panauhin na nasa Chicago po siya ngayon. Panina pinag-uusapan natin.
01:20.0
Namin napakataas pa rin ang snow dun yun. Napakataas 12 inches daw.
01:25.0
Okay, I'd like to welcome to our program again si Prof. Raymond Narag. Prof. po siya ng Criminology at Criminal Justice sa Southern Illinois University, Carbondale.
01:37.0
Magandang gabi Prof. and thank you for joining us.
01:41.0
Salamat sa paghihintay.
01:43.0
Wala nga naman Christian, it's an opportunity for me to continually share our research and also advocacy and changing dynamics dito sa ating criminal justice system sa Philippines.
01:57.0
Kami may snowstorm dito kaya walang damage dahil kami titigil dito sa bahay namin ngayon.
02:05.0
So again, good morning on my part of the world and good evening sa iyong mga taga-pakinig.
02:36.0
So pinalaya po siya temporarily ng SC pero live pa po yung case against her dahil siyam na taon na po siyang nakakulong habang nililitis yung kaso.
02:48.0
Ang argument niya, nag-petition sila for the writ of habeas corpus, argument nila, e nabiolate yung karapatan for speedy trial ni Gigi Reyes.
02:57.0
Alam ko yung reaction ng marami sa inyo, sabi sabihin, at valid yun, eh bakit siya lang? Sana all? Bakit siya lang yung parang nagkaroon ng ganoon privilege?
03:07.0
Noong last episode natin, pinag-usapan natin kung privilege ba yun talaga o hindi.
03:12.0
Ngayon sa episode na to, kausap natin yung isang matagal na po nag-a-advocate ng reforma para sa ating prison system sa Pilipinas.
03:19.0
At tignan natin paano dapat makinabang dito yung higit pang nakararami ng inmates na nililitis ba yung kaso pero sobrang bagal at wala silang resources katulad siguro ni Atty. Gigi Reyes.
03:31.0
Simulan natin Prof. Narag, sa pagkakaalam nyo, gano ba talaga katagal ang paglilitis sa isang person deprived of liberty o PDL?
03:43.0
All right, yan ang napakagandang tanong Christian kasi it's a baseline information that we need to be aware of para sa ganun alam natin kung ano yung definition ng long term pretrial detention sa Pilipinas.
03:57.0
Doon sa aking pag-aaral na ginawa noong 2015 at yun yung latest scholarly study dito, I look at the data sa 6 Metro Manila jails, kasama dyan ang Quezon City, Manila City Jail and 4 other cities in Metro Manila.
04:18.0
Ang average na tinatagal ng mga PDLs, almost 8915 sila doon sa dataset ko ay 528 days. Yan yung mean average.
04:31.0
Pero kung titignan mo skewed to the right siya. Ibig sabihin ang daming mga overstaying na more than 5, 10 and even 20 years.
04:42.0
The longest I recorded actually was 32 years in pretrial detention. Yan ay madalas na makikita mo sa mga probinsya natin and also sa mga urban areas natin sa Metro Manila, Cebu and Davao.
05:20.0
That is correct. And kapag titignan mo sa United States, ang average ng pretrial detention is only 6 days. 6 days lamang. Kasi i-re-release ka nila kapag ikaw ay na-arresto, na-charge and then i-re-release ka nila through what they call custodial hearing.
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The judge will decide whether you are warranted to stay in detention while undergoing trial or not. Mayroon silang mekanismo dito sa United States na what they call pretrial release mechanism.
05:53.0
You will be under supervision by a pretrial release officer. Sa Pilipinas kasi wala tayong ganoon mekanismo. Ang mayroon sa atin ay immediately upon arrest, the default strategy is detain you.
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Now kapag under detention ka na, maaari ka mag-bail kapag ang kaso mo ay bailable offense. Pero kung hindi, ikaw ay ma-detain dahil no bailable ang kaso mo.
06:23.0
Habang nililitish ang kaso.
06:25.0
Habang nililitish. So yun yung proseso sa Pilipinas. And the bail hearing unfortunately ay isa sa mga pinakamabagal na stage ng ating criminal justice proceedings.
06:37.0
So ito ngayon ang nangyari. Maraming mga inmates or persons deprived of liberty, nililitish ang kaso, wala pang decision whether guilty or innocent.
06:48.0
Pero nagsa-suffer na sila. Ang malas mo naman kung acquitted ka pala padating ng araw, actually nangyari sa inyo yan sir.
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Have a good evening ahead.
