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00:00.0
Hola! Hola! Kampanyeros!
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Como estas?
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I hope itong earphones natin ay gumagana.
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Hindi ko alam kung dala ko yung tamang earphones natin.
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Pasensya na mga kameta.
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Talaga kahapon super busy tayo.
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Tuloy-tuloy yung mga events natin.
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Engagements natin.
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Kaya sabi ko at least ngayon.
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Abol tayo.
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Grabe! Especially because yung time difference natin.
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Grabe! Seven hours ba yung time difference natin?
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So by the time na patapos yung trabaho natin dito, biglang wala na.
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Tapos ng araw niyo dyan.
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Kaya sabi ko habalo ko ngayon before it's too late dyan sa Manila.
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So thank you very much again of course dun sa mga nag-comments and all.
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Very kind comments and all.
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Of course our hearts and prayers go to yung ating mga kapatid and folks in Turkey and Syria and other affected areas.
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So that was really a tragic and sad news.
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At alam niyo naman para sa akin when it comes to the issue of earthquake mga ganoon, tayo po ay natraumatized nung batam-bata pa lang tayo.
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Because dun sa earthquake na nangyari sa Baguio.
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I think that was also a 7 Richter earthquake.
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So what happened also in Turkey, that was a very, very strong earthquake.
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And what made it even more tragic, as tragic as it was, was it affected yung isang area na marami mga refugees.
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Especially from the war in Syria.
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So it affected many, many vulnerable people.
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So our prayers and love and hopefully whatever support we can mobilize and put together for all people in need and in difficulties in these times.
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For me kasi unang-una dapat talaga we have to recognize our shared humanity.
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That's a very important thing.
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Solidaridad, yung sense of solidarity, sense of compassion, that's a very, very important thing.
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Of course tayo sa Pilipinas, of course we have a ton of problems to deal with.
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But that should never prevent us from showing solidarity and support and prayers and goodwill and compassion for people suffering all across the world.
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So again, our hearts and prayers go to folks in Turkey, Syria and other affected areas.
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And we wish that the government authorities respond in the best way possible.
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Now, mga kameta, kaapon, actually ang haba ng conference namin and all, I'll post videos of my presentation there on Spain, Philippines, the Indo-Pacific, etc.
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Thank God, mukhang the response was pretty good.
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I'm glad that our friends, mga kampanyeros dito sa Spain were very happy with the discussions we had.
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Kanina lang, kausapin natin si Ambassador Miguel, who is Ambassador-at-Large of Spanish Foreign Ministry for the Indo-Pacific.
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So hopefully we can have more interviews and discussions with him.
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I look forward to that.
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Pinag-usapan namin niyo, of course, yung kasaysayan ng Pilipinas, España.
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So much misunderstanding, so much myths, so much factual errors and so much just pure ignorance that haunts our relationship with España.
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Tayo kasi sa Pilipinas, napaka-apektada tayo sa American way of thinking, American culture, American sports, basketball, etc.
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So parang yung connections natin to España are not as much appreciated as they should be.
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And of course, it goes both ways.
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Dito rin sa España, their history in the Philippines is not as much discussed in their curriculum, basic history.
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But in fairness naman, when you look at the experience of Filipinos here in Spain, most of them tell you the best of the stories.
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Habang sa America and other countries, there are a lot of issues about kalagayan ng mga TNT, the crackdown on illegal immigration, racism.
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Let's be honest about it, especially in America, yung anti-Asian hatred and racist attacks that we saw.
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Of course, we're not generalizing, but unfortunately, there were some serious situations that happened there over the past few years, especially over pandemic.
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Dito sa España, thank God, overall, and God willing, this will continue.
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The experience of many ordinary Filipinos here is so much better than not only expected, but also in a lot of other democracies and all.
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Alam ko, mga kamay-ta, gusto niyo pag-usapan yung mga bardagulan, yung all-TV, ano nangyayari.
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Let's put that aside for a separate discussion.
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Of course, that tells you a lot about how difficult is the media industry in the Philippines.
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Yung all-TV, hindi sila nasana all.
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That's a bardagulan, that's a serious issue that I think we have to talk about separately.
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But let me just park that, we'll do it in a separate vlog.
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Dapat nakaupo tayo pag-usapan natin yan, mabuti.
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So, don't worry, I'm following up dun sa mga nangyayari sa Pilipinas, including all-TV, including mga latest na...
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Ay nako, meron na ba tayong Secretary of Health na permanente?
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Meron na ba tayong ano? Ano bang latest yan sa cabinet politics sa atin?
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Anyway, now going back to this, mga kamay-ta, I just wanted to say that when it comes to Philippines and Spain,
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I think there's just so much that is untapped.
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There's so many layers to our history, to our language, to our culture that we still haven't rediscovered.
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One thing I also noticed with our relationship with Spain, the idea of Spain is that, unfortunately, it has been...
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I mean, on one hand, of course, No Almitangere and all of those works made a huge impact in terms of our popular perceptions of Spain and its legacy.
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And colonial legacies are, by nature, negative. No question about it.
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But there were a lot of things that also Spain brought to us, including a history and tradition of appreciation for republican-liberal ideals.
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This goes back to Cadiz Constitution, early 19th century.
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I mean, if you look at the Philippines, one reason the Philippines has a deep tradition of democratic-republican ideals
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compared to almost all of our neighbors in the region, that's a legacy of Europe and Spain.
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And, of course, Spain, for a while, was under Napoleonic France.
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It was itself exposed to republican ideals, to progressive ideals, and that was transmitted to the Philippines.
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That's one thing to keep in mind.
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The other thing is that, of course, Spain was also responsible for the establishment of the first modern universities,
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Universidad Santo Tomas, Ateneo, among others.
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And that was what contributed to the emergence of Ilustrado.
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We had Renaissance men who were the forefathers of our nations, well ahead of almost all Asian countries.
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That's why Rizal is seen as the hero of the Malayan people.
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That's why Rizal was invoked as the hero of Asiatic people when, in the early 20th century, they met in Tokyo.
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Students from all over the region came together, from China, from India, from Southeast Asia, they came together.
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They celebrated Rizal as their hero and inspiration, and they celebrated the Philippine Ilustrado as their inspiration.
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So, the Ilustrado class was a reaction to Spanish colonialism,
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but they were also influenced by Spanish education, Spanish culture, and their access to Europe because of their exposure to Spanish culture and civilization.
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And let's not also forget that Spain was a relatively backward empire.
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We had an interesting discussion earlier about how the 19th century was really the collapse of the Spanish empire,
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from the Bolivarian Revolution in the 1840s all the way to the loss of Cuba and the Philippines by the end of the century.
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It was a painful, terrible period in Spanish history.
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So, in Spain, perhaps, they're not talking as much about the 19th century.
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But I think the Philippines, we talk about the 19th century, but through a slanted perspective, through a kind of a limited perspective.
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And for me, rediscovering that perspective is very important.
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But speaking of that, I think one of our problems in the Philippines is that we treat Spanish like how some countries treat French.
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It's like the language of the elite. It's a language of distinction.
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It's a language of privilege.
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In fact, Spanish is a very cool language.
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It's a language, you know, barrio, calle, you know what I'm saying?
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It's so funny.
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In the Philippines, those people who speak Spanish, a lot of them tend to be people with very elite privilege background or elite privilege pretensions.
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And then you come here and you see all sorts of people speaking Spanish with different accents, different intonations.
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And you realize it's really an egalitarian, democratic language.
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It's a fun, happy, enjoyable language.
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It's the kind of language you want to learn.
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And we have to work on that, of course, hopefully in the coming years.
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It's just so comfortable.
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I mean, I have nothing against French.
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But, you know, unlike French, you don't go into this very, very complicated pronunciation and all of that.
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You know, you don't have to learn the re, re, re, re.
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Yeah, Espanol is easy.
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I mean, there's a pronunciation and all.
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The Ls are usually yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Of course, in Madrid, especial, a little bit of lift and all of that.
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But you get what I'm saying, you know?
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So what's interesting is that in the Philippines, like, masyadong posh ang Spain because the elite of the elite in the Philippines have Spanish connections or pretensions or combination of both.
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But actually, Spain and Spanish culture is very egalitarian, cosmopolitan, global culture.
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The other thing that you also notice with Spain, and of course, there's a Barcelona and Alta usually last year.
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But the other thing you also notice with Spain is they're very open and warm people, at least compared to other people.
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I mean, you talk to people here, they'll say the incidents of racism.
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It's nowhere like what you see in some other Western countries or advanced countries, including advanced countries in Asia.
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You know which countries we're talking about, no?
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Racisms na mayan diyan.
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So it's a very open culture.
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And Filipinas are really held in a special regard.
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Parang we're like, we're kind of like their favorito people in a certain sense.
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Like, these are like lost brothers and sisters.
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And now we're finding each other.
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Now you see more and more Filipinas coming here.
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Now more and more Filipinas learning Spanish.
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It could be the beginning of a new era.
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I won't say golden era, but it is a bronze or silver era in Philippine-Spanish relations.
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After 100 years of estrangement, thanks to that American interaction, we are suddenly moving in a very interesting direction.
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I would say that President Duterte, for all of his problematic things, just to put it kindly,
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what he did was that he made us reassess our American legacy.
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Or America's legacy in the Philippines.
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And I think that opened up the space for appreciation of so many other things in the world that is not named America.
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So again, I don't appreciate how Taday Digong did it.
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I don't appreciate him jumping to the Chinese and the Russians and all of that in the process,
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because that's not really an independent foreign policy.
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But at least he helped us to deconstruct in a kind of derrida deconstruction way.
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Why are we so obsessed about U.S.?
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As if U.S. is a gold standard for everything.
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Wow, that's so 50, 60 years ago.
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That's so 1980s, to put it most generously.
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We have to look beyond the United States.
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And I think this is where also there's a chance for us to look back as much as we want to look forward.
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So look back in terms of appreciating Spanish legacy in the Philippines in the full sense of the word.
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Not only what certain friars were doing or what Guardia Civil was doing,
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but in so many different ways.
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And not only in the ways that Rizal explains Spain to us in his novels,
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but in so many other ways that is much more nuanced, much more constructive,
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and some would say even benign.
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The other thing that I would want to also emphasize, we have to look forward to,
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because Spain is not spoken of as a big major power in Europe,
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like Germany, Deutschland, or France, or even UK, which is not EU but is part of Europe,
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or even Russia for that matter.
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Yeah, they're not a major power in that sense.
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But Spain is a G20 country.
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It has one of the biggest economies in Europe and in the world.
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It's a $1.4 trillion economy.
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Hopefully tomorrow, we'll also go to some of the growth industries here in Spain,
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which is renewable energy.
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So the electric, the e-energy, green energy sector is big here in Spain.
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They're a world leader in green energy, and they want to build a strong relationship with us.
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I think Spain could be a very strong partner for the Philippines
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as we try to also transition towards a more renewable, sustainable economy.
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So I'm looking forward to more discussions and more observations of the green sector here in Spain
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and what are the things that they can contribute to help us in the Philippines.
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Of course, some Filipino billionaires with Spanish background, like Razon, Enrique Razon.
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You know, in French, Razon.
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Razon, okay?
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They're also looking at getting into the renewable energy big time, big time,
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and I hope to see more of that.
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Ayala's and the rest are also getting into that.
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Very interesting, very interesting.
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There's a lot of potential in this relationship.
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Spain also has a relatively significant defense industry.
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They produce some relatively good defense military equipment that I think could provide us some options.
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Again, you want to go beyond U.S.
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You want to go beyond China.
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I'm sick and tired of just talking about U.S., China, U.S., China, as if they're the only things in this world.
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No.
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Yes, they're the two big elephants, but they're also lions, they're bears, they're giraffes, they're zebras,
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they're leopards, whatever, cheetahs.
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You know, we have to reach all of them, no?
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And Spain is maybe not the lion, maybe not an elephant, but they're at least a leopard or cheetah.
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There are things that we can get out of our relationship with them.
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As I said, it's a $1.4 trillion economy.
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It's a relatively advanced industrialist country.
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But for me, what makes really Spain special for us in the Philippines, Mga Kameta,
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is that Spain is a remarkable – it's a story of remarkable transformation
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because only 56 years ago, this country was not too far from where the Philippines was also back in the day.
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Like, if we had Arcadillo, they also had Arcadillo, General Franco here.
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They had their own version of authoritarian system.
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Spain was very stagnant economy.
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It was a mostly agricultural society, very poor in Spain compared to many European countries,
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especially Nordic and Western European countries back in the 60s and 70s.
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So this was a very backward agricultural society just half a century ago.
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And now you go to Spain, much cleaner.
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I mean, Madrid is far cleaner than Roma.
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I love Rome, but, you know, come on.
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There are so many beautiful cities here.
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It's not just Madrid or Barcelona.
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There's Seville.
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Oh, my God, there's so many places to go.
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You want to learn Spanish, you go to Salamanca.
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There's Valencia.
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You want to go to Paella, you can go there.
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So much – this country can offer just so much.
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And then there's Cordoba, so much culture, history.
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Of course, Madrid was founded by Arabs and Muslim,
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so you see that kind of cosmopolitan background here.
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This country just has so much to offer us and so much to offer to the world.
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Now, Spain has great relationship with Latin America.
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We talk a lot about Argentina.
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We talk about Venezuela, Mexicanos, et cetera.
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But Philippines is – you know, I think we're just so much –
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we always talk about Japan, China, U.S., whatever.
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But there's so much also we can do with Spain, I think.
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And Spain can also offer us a lot.
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And also – so Spain could be both a future and past for us.
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Understanding of our past and our roots in many ways,
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especially our language, culture, why we're different from a lot of our ASEAN nation partners.
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But Spain can also be a future, not like a solution to all problems.
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I'm not going to exaggerate it.
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But they can offer us a lot on the defense strategic front.
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They can offer us a lot in terms of renewable energy front.
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In terms of infrastructure development, because under Marcus Jr.,
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we're moving from a $100 billion project under Tatay Digong
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with some mixed success towards a $320 billion project,
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infrastructure build-up project, as Secretary Balisacan announced in Frankfurt.
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Meetings nila kahapon, yung mga business meeting nila sa Frankfurt, Germany, the other month.
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So we're moving towards a massive infrastructure build-up.
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And I think Spanish companies – I mean, what's fascinating here in Madrid
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is that it's like Middle East or Turkey.
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Like there's constant reconstruction, reconstruction, reconstruction, no?
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Ayan na, nasa sobrang excited.
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Si, si, si, sinyo.
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You know what I like about Spanish?
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They speak so fast.
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And it's funny, kahapon they were complaining that kawawa daw yung translator sa akin.
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Of course, I mean, I started with Spanish and, you know, I said like, okay,
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you know, en primer lugar, like, first of all, you know,
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you know, muchas gracias por la amable invitación, you know, and all of that.
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And yeah, and basta, basta.
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Basta, ang bilis ko nagsalita daw, eh ang bilis rin nila magsalita.
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So nahihirapan akong mag-catch up, medyo umiinit, medyo sumakit ng ulo ko.
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I'm trying to absorb as much as I can in Spanish.
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I mean, I couldn't understand a significant amount of what was discussed,
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so I didn't get the translator and all of that.
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Pero yung pala, nahihirapan din sila.
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But they speak Spanish.
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You say, well, I speak English right now, or even Tagalog.
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But it brings excitement and all.
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Yeah, I know, kailangan ko ng lip balm.
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And by the way, may kunting orange and all dahil sa paeya na,
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yung paeya nila, I don't know, anong lagay dyan, safron mo or something.
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Ging lang orange-orange na yung kamay ko, yung lips ko,
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hindi pa rin natanggal ang kumpleto kahit anong nangyari natin.
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But anyway, mga kameta, I need to get back, finish some work.
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Thank you so much, guys.
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Oh, by the way, andito tayo dito sa parang library nila.
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Ayan.
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May library dun, tapos restorante dito.
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I love this place.
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This is fantastic.
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And one good thing also in Madrid is that a lot of banks and commercial centers,
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they just vacated these beautiful buildings and they become museums, et cetera, centers of art.
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So, wow, you know, the heritage preservation here is fantastic.
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Lots of reconstruction going on.
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It's a very clean capital city.
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It's one of the few capital cities in Europe also which was found by non-Europeans, namely Arabs.
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It's a fascinating place.
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There's just so much that we can rediscover about Spain
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and that goes beyond Imperial Grandol, Arrogante,
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and all of the things that Rizal's generation talked about.
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You, I mean, yes, they dealt with hell, you know, many difficult things back in the day.
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But Spain of today is a very different Spain.
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A democratic, prosperous, forward-looking Spain.
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It's a Spain that wants to learn.
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It's a Spain that is humble.
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So the same way that UK and US have a special relationship,
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espacial, you know, we can also have that with Spain.
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But unlike the UK-US one, we want it to be more symmetrical, more mutually respectful and all.
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And I can see that the attitude is very different.
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The attitude of Spanish is very different.
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They're very open.
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They're very respectful.
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I really could feel it.
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I really could feel it.
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I mean, you know, we're also arrogant so it's not easy for me to intimidate.
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It's very hard to intimidate me.
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And, you know, I've dealt with many people from all around the world
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and different kinds of arrogant level.
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And for me, like, okay, let's go, right?
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But here in fairness, as I get to talk more with folks here,
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I'm really impressed by the warmth, by the openness and all.
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And by the way, thank you so much.
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Thank you so much also to the Filipino community here.
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I'm here with a friend of ours.
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Maybe I have to ask his permission if I'm going to say him.
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Anyway, thank you also to our community here in Manila.
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There, he already messaged.
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There.
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My response.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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By the way, okay, I'll just not say it.
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Anyway, Manolet, thank you very much to amigo Manolet for helping us to a little bit go around
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and get a glimpse of the city and place.
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But we hope to discuss things more, especially the Filipino community here.
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The sociology of the Filipino community here, the integration process here, the openness here.
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There, for those who want to migrate, maybe.
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Legal, okay?
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Legal migrate.
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Maybe this is the country you want to go to.
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Or you want to rest.
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You're stressed with our politics.
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Then you go here.
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But don't worry about me.
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I mean, God willing, you know, we'll stick around in Manila as much as we can.
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All right?
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So just support me so I can make it.
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Otherwise, I'll just be fashion.
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I'll just be a model or I'll just be a showbiz.
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All right?
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All right.
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Thank you, guys.
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Thank you very much.
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And talk to you soon.
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There.
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I really used my ID.
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So, again, let me, by the way, say.
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These people are already saying hi.
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I think I'm the only vlogger here.
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I don't think there are vloggers.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much.
20:44.0
Very, very much appreciated.
20:45.0
So, yeah, I'll have to get moving because I have to just finish some papers and works.
20:49.0
Thank you very much.
20:57.0
Maraming salamat, God bless, and talk to you soon.