A Project Pilipinas episode with Marc Gamboa.

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Bro! Bro, bro, bro!

Hola! Kumusta?

Okay naman, kamusta?

Magkabagay sa Pilipinas.

Habang nagkabalyeros ako.

Hindi, hindi.

Ano naman mga bardagulan nangyari dito?

Ay, marami, marami.

Nako po, kaya sabi ko kailangan magbeat tayo.

Alam ko last week mo pa akong...

Oo.

Kasi I want to hear from you.

Mas maalam ka sa mga ganitong issue.

Gusto kong parinig galing naman sa site mo eh.

Yeah, I mean of course on the record na ako sa mainstream media

pagdating sa aking analysis and all.

To be honest, of course I'll share my point of view

but I'm even more interested about

what is the blogosphere?

Ano yung mga state of discussion?

Especially pagdating sa mga vloggers

who are attached to different camps.

O yung mga ibang vloggers na biglang resident analyst expert na daw.

Yung mga ganitong type. Magbardagulan tayo.

First of all, bro.

Katulad ng pinag-usapan natin,

Marcos Jr. is going to be very different from Duterte.

So yung prediction po natin is 110% correct.

Even faster than I thought.

Yung pivot na nangyari.

So actually I was expecting April pa

ma-approve itong ETCA

tsaka yung mga supposedly undisclosed locations.

Alam natin sa Cagayan and Isabela areas.

I'm just not sure how far north.

Whether Mavulis, Fuga, Pasok.

But I'm sure in a way,

those could be also open in an event of contingency.

So I was expecting this later this year.

Pa mga April.

But nangyari na ngayon.

And we can discuss that.

But what I'm really also interested in is

yung backlash kay Marcos Jr.

from yung mga supposed supporters niya.

Nakita ko pa yung isa, bro,

na nabudol daw sila.

Sabi nung isang DDS.

Yan talaga.

Nabudol daw sila.

Nasa España pa ako nun.

Tinitingnan ko, natatawa ako dun sa mga...

Pero pa ako nababasa na parang pareho daw

ng foreign policy si Lenny at si Marcos.

Exactly.

Sabi ko nga.

Actually, I would say Lenny would be a little bit more slow burn.

Ito talagang all-in.

Ang bilis.

Ang bilis talaga dito.

So kaya nga crazy surprising.

By the way, I haven't shared as much my also concerns with ETCA

kasi I think na-misinterpret ako na all-in ako dito.

May back and forth ako with Teddy Casino also the other day.

I think there are some folks, not Teddy Casino,

but some people on the left were trying to portray me as an amboy.

It's like, what?

Do you know what you're talking about?

So let me be very clear about that.

Meron din ako mga misgivings about this that we can discuss.

But what's fascinating, bro,

is nakita ko sa Twitter.

Wait lang!

Mga tipong nilampaso ni Heydarion, si Sasod, mga ganon-ganon.

Tapos pagtingin ko, pro-BBM people.

It's like, wait, what's going on here?

What?

Talagang hindi kayo magka...

Oo.

Si Sasod ang loudest kasi dun sa...

Bro, parang ako yung sineside ng mga loyalists to bash the other side.

It's like, what's going on here?

So pagtingin ko, ayan, pala expert na siya.

No, tas next level na.

May mga pandesal forum, mga ganyan.

Tell me about this.

What's going on there, bro?

Tell me about it.

So right after kasi sa EDGA, after ma-finalize yun,

yung mga additional na sites, yung pandesal forum...

Flores.

Oo.

I love Flores.

Yan.

Doon na nag-ano, nag-very emotional at very passionate speech itong si Sasod.

Parang she's warning us na...

Parang ang description niya is ano eh, kasama tayo sa war theater.

Yeah, war zone.

Wow.

War agad.

Theater yung sabi.

Taray, taray, taray.

Oo, parang...

Taray.

At because sa ginawa daw ni Marcos, pag-atake daw, kasama daw tayo.

At madadamay daw tayo doon sa sierra na mangyayari.

At yung points ng camp nila, and SMNI, and I also noticed the Chinese embassy is very active

making certain statements which sound very interestingly echoing certain other statements out there.

You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying?

So anong response?

So what's going on sa blogosphere?

Ito ba yung talking points kaya na war agad?

Is Sasot ang main e. Sa vlogs, pag yung mga vloggers, nakaikot lahat kay Sasot.

Yan ang kanyang pina-campaign na concert.

Pero as usual, yung mga DBS, sila yung nag-lead dyan.

Sila yung iniecho itong worry ni Sasot.

Ang quiet dito, napansin ko, si Maharlika.

Kaya nga, nasa na yung mga loyalista?

Hindi. Hindi. Hindi. Si Maharlika kasi very much against kay BBM ngayon.

Kasi tinitira niya sa first lady.

Pero pagdating sa EDCA, tahimik siya.

Nasa U.S. kasi siya.

Bakit? TNT ba siya or legit?

Hindi. Sa U.S. siya nakatira.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

Wala siyang problema siguro sa aspeto na iyon.

Kaya hindi niya binabanatan si BBM sa issue na iyan.

But everyone else, naka-refer sila doon sa mga sinasabi ni Sasot.

Si Sasot, kinakalat din siya na hashtag na don't look up.

Parang yung movie sa Netflix na parang pinapalabas niya.

Siya yung nagwa-warning, walang nakikinig sa kanya.

Please. Please.

Let me cut you right away.

Let me be very clear. A lot of people are warning na war agad.

First of all, itong mga tao na walang word na death deterrence

sa kanilang vocabulary.

Ancient wisdom says, Roman saying,

if you want peace, prepare for war.

Kasi kung mahina ka, lalo kang bubuliin.

You invite aggression.

Let's not also forget, a lot of these people are warning,

not specifically this person.

A lot of these are the same charlatans who said that,

Uy, kung mabait tayo sa China, katulad ng ginagawa ni Tatay Digong,

magkakaroon tayo ng marami investments,

maging mabait ng China sa atin sa West Philipine sea.

Ito yung same charlatans na yan usually,

and ano sila ngayon?

Mangmang sila dahil wala naman talaga ng ethings and books

in the West Philippines.

Yung nangyari ng JNFR, panoong ni Tatay Digong yan.

Nangyari sa Whitson Riff nang pa-salita si Pacquiao,

panoong ni Tatay yan.

Last year paring nag-file tayo ng 193 note verbals

dahil sa mga kabulian na ginagawa nila sa atin,

... Including latest laser-laser na ito, twice pa military-grade laser. By the way ito na naman sinabi ko, mali ang mga dilawan, mali din ang mga DDS, hindi mangyari ang mga debt trap na yan dahil walang investment ang mangyari dito.

I-confirm ko, pledge trap, nabutol tayo. Kasi ang problema sa mga yan, pang barangay ang geopolitics nila. Wag mong gawin yan, magalit ang kapilang barangay, susugurin tayo. Wala silang concept ng deterrence. This is a complicated issue at ang China po hindi katulad ng...

... Already coming in. Kasi I have to...

... Ito may north of Luzon-Isabela-Cagayan, bigyan na sa Pilipinas. But the thing is we just don't know if kasama dyan yung Fuga at Mavulis Island na napakalapit sa southern shores of Taiwan or ito yung mga bases lang nandun sa mainland Luzon sa Cagayan-Isabela.

Let me be very clear about this, katulad ng sinabi ko among others sa wag po, kasama sila Lord Diver and all, pwede naman i-dribble ang Pilipinas yan. Kasi yung implementation ng ETCA pwede pa rin negotiate gano'n karami mga troops ang papasok, ano'ng mga bases na bubuksan, gano'n kalaki yung mga exercises na gagawin.

Eto yung mga exercises ay humanitarian assistance, disaster relief operations, yung tulungan mo yung komunidad, o ito yung maritime security, war games, amphibious attack. Pwede mo lahat i-tweak yan pare.

So in short, meron ka ng menu pero yung mga ingredients at yung mga gagamitin mo, pwede mo nang palilihan. So in short, in theory actually this gives us leverage. Kasi gano'n to, dalawang problema, on our own, hindi talaga tayo re-responding ng China dahil wala tayong kakayan.

So yung argumento ng iba dyan na let's just use diplomacy including si BBM noong panoon na elections, noong friends ba sila ng Duterte and all, hindi gagana yan because bakit ka papakinggan? Wala ka naman leverage, wala kang kakayan. That's one problem.

The other problem is it will take time for us to build our own defensive capabilities. So ako, ang preference ko, self-reliance. But alam ko, ang problema dahil sa daming corruption nangyari, sa daming gulo nangyari sa Mindanao and conflicts and all, yung ating kakayan ay limitado pagdating sa external security.

Pagdating natin ng fighter jets, navy frigates. No, not natapatan yung China pero yung tinatawag bro na poison shrimp or porcupine. Hindi mo sila kasing laki but you have minimum capability na hindi ka bubuli basta-basta.

This is the second point. Actually third point is, ito yung fascinating. Dito makikita, either fake news ito mga ito, either bayaran ito mga ito or either walang alam mga ito or maybe all of the above.

Parating sinesite yung case ng Ukraine, na magiging Ukraine na tayo. Dude, Ukraine has no treaty alliance kaya sila sinaguran.

Ang Ukraine po ay walang kakayahan na dipensahan ang sarili or at least that's what Russia thought kaya sila sinaguran.

If Ukraine were part of NATO or Ukraine was allied to US or Ukraine had the defensive capabilities na meron ng Finland, di sila gagalawin.

Sometimes ngayon ang Finland gusto rin sumalis sa NATO pero hindi sila sinisaguran ng Russia dahil may kakayahan.

So of course I want us one day to become like Finland but it's going to take some time and even Finland with all their capabilities gusto mag-NATO para may mutual defense treaty or in that case collective security.

So do you get what I'm saying here? So what's happened here mga ka-meta or mga ka-Project Pilipinas, mga kababayan natin is the hope of EDCA is two things.

First, give us leverage and allow us to have indirect vicarious deterrence which is through more US presence in the area, medyo magdadalawang isip ang US.

But this is where bro, hindi ako pwede magbigay ng final stance because I cannot really vouch for this president when it comes to the more important thing.

Because ako, ang gusto ko mangyari dito is unang una, pwede natin i-tweak and dribble itong EDCA para hindi masyado mag-provoke ang China but more importantly bro,

gawin din natin leverage yan para kumuha tayo ng pinaka-best na weapons sa US.

Alam mo kung ako si Marcus ngayon sabihin ko, pinuksan ko to, ano makukuha ko ngayon? Parang real estate?

Bigyan mo ako ng magandang armas, F-15, and good price and grants, give me good stuff, don't give me Vietnam era nonsense, right?

Sorry to cut you off. Yan ang question nila. Parang sinasabi nila bakit kumayag si Marcus ng ganyan e wala pang naku-commit masyado sa atin.

But we don't know bro. Probably it's behind the scenes. But as I said, because I haven't confirmed it myself,

ang tansya ko, kasi pansin mo biglang matapang ang Pilipinas ngayon. Like super matapang.

Ang tapang ng Philippine Coast Guard, ginamit ng word na acts of aggression, ang tapang biglang ng DFA natin.

I mean matapang yun sila but mas matapang pa ang tapang ni Marcus.

Do you think they would be like that if they didn't get reassurances from the US?

I don't think they're that fool, are they? Si Marcus pa napaka-sigurista yan, napaka-unity.

So my sense is, quantumania ba yan? My sense is, I don't know kung nanood din siya noong latest Ant-Man.

Ang sense ko, si Magellan Jr. hindi yan magiging ganyan. Si Nomon pa yung Chinese ambassador.

I don't think walang reassurance yan. But since hindi naman ako yung pro-Marcus na yes man,

I'm still gonna withhold judgment because I wanna get more information about exact.

So in short, in theory, I see the value but we need more details and more follow-through to see ano mangyari.

Follow-through on the part of BBM, also follow-through on the part of US.

Pero eto rin, bro. Tingnan mo. Back to back to eh.

Nangyari itong US na yan and then pumunta siya sa Japan and then nag-negotiate din deal ng VFA with Japan

plus US-Japan-Philippines tripartite security agreement.

So in short, the name of the game pare is deterrence.

We're trying to really create a united front with Japan, US and Australia also.

This for me is the real quad. Really four real allies. Hindi yung India quad na yan.

In that sense, syempre magdadalawang isip ang China.

Mahusay ang coordination na apat na to. Maganda.

Ang ayoko lang, bro, is mukha lang tayo ayoko maging mga kawawang Pilipinas na tagabigay lang tayo ng bases.

I want us to have...

We need to get something back.

Oo, bro. Kung saan. Pwede rin tayo kumuha.

Hindi. Ganito. I want to see more exercises with our allies kung saan marami rin tayo mga frigates and warships.

Hindi lang tayo taga... Alam mo yun, I don't want us to be the eventologists lang na taga-host lang tayo ng event pero wala tayong ambag.

Alam mo yun ganon? Ayoko nang ganon.

Mayroong host tayo pero at the same time may masabi tayo.

So, don't... I cannot endorse it yet because I still have to see the results.

I still have to see the results. Do you get what I'm saying, bro, here?

So, we love our country. Nationalista po tayo.

So, we are for deterrence but we're not for dependence.

And ako, katulad ng sinabi ko ay Teddy Casino, you can actually have both at the same time which is

have alliances but build also your capability para hindi ka rin masyadong dependent sa allies mo.

Pwede mo naman sabayan yan. Hindi naman...

At the same time.

Exactly. Hindi naman porket may US... I'll give you an example.

Look at Korea and Japan. Look at Korea which is a small country.

Ang Korea ngayon gumagawa ng frigates, gumagawa ng fighter jets, etc.

Sila pa nga may US bases pa. May US base pa nga unlike us.

Kung gawala.

But that never stopped them from developing their own military capabilities and all.

And I won't be surprised down the road, Korea will go on its own.

Katulad ng sinabi ng president nila, they're now contemplating making their own nuclear weapons if necessary.

So, for me, problematik yung argument na porke may EDCA tayo,

ang Pilipinas ay maging dependent forever. Not necessarily.

But if mahina yung leadership natin and military natin in terms of strategic thinking, yes, mangyayari yan.

And on that, I'm hoping for the best.

But I want to see more evidence.

So, in short, provisional po ang aking stance on this issue.

I've written like seven articles since last week on this.

So, everything is out there.

Or at least you can just go on YouTube, check EDCA, Heydar, and everything is going to come out.

So, for more details. Kasi maraming details na i-explain natin.

But I'm just saying that's a big picture.

And then nakikita ko...

So, now you tell me, bro, so who's defending BBM now?

Maharlika is quiet. Sasot and all the other costumes.

Si Sasot lang naman talaga ang...

Kasi isa party ng Marikis, si Sasot lang talaga yung very much alarmed dyan.

Sa kasi Sangkay.

Sangkay kasi yung mga videos niya medyo conspiracy theory, medyo world.

So silang dalawa ang medyo doon.

Sangkay Djan Djan is not supporting BBM na rin para Maharlika?

He's supporting BBM pero medyo...

Medyo walang credibility.

Medyo mas sa Russia, mas sa China, mas doon.

Doong side na...

Yung mga theories sa...

Conspiracy theory.

Pero sila lang.

Pero wala masyado.

Si Maharlika nga yung pinakamaingay.

Wala.

Di siya nakikili sa issue na yan.

Yung mga pink naman, busy naman kaila...

Kaila Willie Revillame, kaila Tony Gondaga.

So hindi masyadong...

Hindi masyadong natitira kay Ricard Haidarian.

Busy sila.

So hindi masyadong...

So para ako na lang yung medyo vlogger na all out explaining the situation.

Although as I said, I'm fully 100% supported.

Yung natatanong ko sa'yo.

Kung...

Ang maganda yung pagka-explain mo.

At saka...

Di ba mas nasabong kung si Lenny baka ganoon din pero mas matagal ng konti.

Medyo puntsyado.

Bakit ka binabash nung ilang mga nandoon sa From the Pink side?

Actually I was thinking about it last night.

So today hindi na ako pumatol.

Kasi hanggang kagabi inaaway ko yung patol.

So ano na yung mga umaway sa'yo?

Nag-enjoy ako.

Ito mostly mga anonymous yun.

Mga Alt, ABS, CBN.

Mga walang mukha.

I understand they have to be anonymous for certain political circumstances.

But come on, you're going after me.

Napakabastos naman.

If you want to question my courage and my conviction, let's talk.

Let's talk as ourselves.

Verified pa yung account ko.

Wala akong denial dyan.

Ako actually upon reflection and fairness about this,

siguro medyo OA din yung pagka-response ko.

Not to excuse myself, pero hindi mo rin ako masisisi.

After six years of tatay na,

ay, wala yan, mabait ng China kahit ano nangyari.

Siyempre, part of me yung Pinoy pride na,

yan, finally, ayan na.

Alam mo yung mga dalawis.

Yeah, I think I got a bit carried away.

I'll admit it.

I was thinking of posting something about that to admit that maybe medyo OA.

But I still stand by my argument that tama naman yung nangyari ngayon.

Overall, but we can still argue about it.

But you have to recognize kung may tama nangyari.

Kasi parang nakakaya, six years na tayo na ginaginyan-ginyan lang.

Walang sinasabi yung presidente na.

At least, sinong someone na yung ambassador.

Ganito, ganito, ganito, ganito.

Ano ba sinasabi nila sa'yo?

Anong mga hirit nila against you?

Yung iba nga, tinawag pa ako ng froglet.

Trying hard.

Wait, what? You call me?

They didn't like that you were defending yung latest moves of BBM.

I made two tweets in particular.

One tweet regarding his conversation with Zelensky where he praised the bravery of the Ukrainian people.

But of course, BBM is careful.

He didn't say against Russian invasion.

Wala dun nga.

Ako sabi ko, ganito kasi bro.

Siyempre tweet, ilan words lang pwede mo inilagay.

So if I want caveats, I put sa baba.

Daming links nilagay ko.

By the way, it's not only BBM.

Actually, yung voting record ng Pilipinas is consistently in favor of Ukraine.

Kicking out Russia out of the United Nations Human Rights Council.

Voting sa General Assembly.

So kung sinama mo lahat na yan plus yung conversation ni BBM,

actually ng Pilipinas, principled na yung position natin.

Hindi yung pan-neutral para lang may makuha kang mura sa Russia,

which is what some other countries are doing.

Kaya I call it opportunistic neutrality.

I rather have principled neutrality.

Pero ang dami nagka-issue doon na parang,

but you know what, that post probably got one million views and all,

and it was being shared by people in Europe, in US, all around the world.

And you could see they were encouraged.

And I want them to see the Philippines for what it is.

We voted for Ukraine over and over again based on principle.

No one gives us credit because si tatay purong ganyan-ganyan kung ano-ano sinasabi.

So ako as a Filipino, I want the world to recognize what the Philippines is doing.

So siguro medyo na-OA yung mga iba dyan na supportive si Lenny.

Dahil siyempre, napuntang credit kay BBM.

Pero in-explain ko naman in fairness sa ating voting record, yung assent.

But that's the problem, bro.

They don't care about those.

They just want to make me look bad.

And you know why?

You know why they want to look me bad?

Why? Why?

No, no. Because binukin ko sila doon sa mga kaguan...

Ay, sorry. Kalukuan na...

I'm sorry.

Kasi, bro, yung mga analytics ganyan tapos yung binabastos yung Pulse Asia.

I always said, bro, that's not how you do campaigning.

Tapos yung pa...

At sabi ko, bro, itong...

Sorry about that word.

I'm sorry about that.

No, no. The other thing also, bro, yun nga.

Ang bastos din kasi yung nangyari.

Binastos yung mga kaibigan ko sa Pulse Asia.

Some of these people are my colleagues.

They're real scientists.

You know, Ronald Holmes, he got his PhD in AU.

He's a really good guy.

I felt bad.

And there was never an apology to these people.

The way na pinutray yung Pulse Asia...

And ngayon, kukote nila yung Pulse Asia pag pinakita mababi yung approval sa inflation.

You get what I'm saying?

And then, eto, paradical love, radical love.

Pero kung ayaw ka nila, babastosin nila yung itsura mo.

Binabastos yung hairline mo.

Binabastos yung grammar mo.

Binabastos...

Bro, I mean, come on.

I'm not saying this is the whole support.

But there are a number of accounts there na ngayon, super toxic na sila.

Obviously, eto yung mga hindi naka-move on.

Eto yung mga ayaw mag-move on.

And eto yung mga tao na if you're not 100% with them, then automatically supporter ka ng diktador, anak ng diktador.

I mean, bro, this is...

For me, this is a sensitive issue because I have...

As an Ilocano, I'm proud of my heritage.

At the same time, I always pointed out yung mga wrong things that happened during the martial law, etc.

You know, so I know that people portray me that I'm too soft on BBM, too hard on Duterte, blah, blah, blah.

But come on, guys.

I mean, I'm just trying my best to encourage.

And let me tell you this.

A lot of people who really matter in foreign policy, they follow me, they know what I say.

And I know that what I'm saying matters on foreign policy.

Not on other issues.

Hindi ako nagfufiling, diba?

Di ako nagyayabang.

But I know as a fact, these people follow me very well.

I interact with a lot of these people.

I'm not going to name which places, which people, but you can guess.

These are really important people.

So I know what I say matters because it influences their policy and approach to the Philippines.

So this is my way.

It just happens that BBM is in charge.

It just happens that BBM is in charge.

Kaya nga sabi ko, kudos to everyone.

In fact, yung DFA, si Ambassador Babe Romaldes, Secretary Manalo, you know, our defense...

It's the whole people.

It just happens that BBM is in charge.

But you're right.

If Lenny is in charge, I'm sure we'll move in a similar direction.

But of course, since Lenny may mga progressive supporters and all, she'll be a little bit more careful dun sa U.S. bandwagon.

Siyempre, because marami tayong progressive friends who are uncomfortable with the U.S.

and they see the U.S. as an imperialistic power.

And I cannot blame them because look at what the U.S. did in the Middle East and Iraq.

So marami silang maling ginawa rin, diba?

So that's my point.

Ang weird na nangyayari ngayon.

Ina-attack ako.

And part of my point is you're trying to cancel me, right?

The funny thing is dumadami pa kayong followers ko the more they attack me.

Kasi lumalaban ako eh because I don't want these people to think that they can just bully people.

You're not gonna bully me.

You wanna bully me, right?

And do what?

You cannot even write under your own name.

I'm writing under my own name.

I'm putting my name on the line, diba?

Tayo po ay respectable person abroad.

Marami sa talaga paluhura ako sa Twitter because I want to put people in the right place.

Because no one is doing that.

No one is doing that.

Eto yung problema.

And I'll tell you, bro.

Sana si Lenny and all these opposition leaders, come out and tell these people to maayos sila

because they're turning off a lot of people.

Ako naman, nabisit na nga ako sa kanila.

Kaya I'm calling them out.

Matagal nila ginawa but this time talaga huminit ng ulo ko

while admitting na siguro na carried away ako.

Kasi siyempre six years of Duterte.

Nakakaya bro nung time na yan, I go all around the world explaining the Philippines

and then biglang eh paano sinabi ni Tatay Digong, I love China.

I'm a fan of China.

Embarrassing yun.

I'm sorry bro.

I'm all for independent foreign policy but that was not independent foreign policy.

That was something else.

We all know what it was.

So I hope people understand.

And jet lag.

All of those things.

Maybe I could have framed it better.

But I'm glad.

As a Pinoy, I'm glad that those tweets got a lot of shares

including by journalists all around the world.

And now as a Filipino, I can proudly come out and say

hindi tayo pitsugin, hindi tayo pwede ganyan-ganyan lang sa West Philippines.

And at least we have a principle of neutrality on the Ukraine issue

and we express sympathy and solidarity with them.

I'm proud as a Filipino to say that.

So I hope these people understand where I'm coming from.

And again, apologies.

What's that word, G? I wanted to say I won.

I'm sorry.

It's 12 now.

So apologies.

I'll call you later.

I 100% fully support you when it comes to this issue.

That's why I wanted us to do this episode because I know that's your expertise.

And what you're saying about this issue is I truly value it.

Ngayon ko lang ang ganda ng punto mo, hindi lang local ang audience mo dito.

Some people will follow you from abroad.

So important na you get it right.

Tama yung masabi mo.

You praise Marcos kung meron siyang tamang ginawa.

But at the same time, you have precautions na mga pwedeng mangyari

if hindi niya magawa yung followers.

I have followers who are like Hollywood actors and all.

Hindi ako nagyayabang bro.

I mean go to my account, check verified followers.

I was like wow.

I was like wow.

Hindi ako nagyayabang bro.

So I realized actually there's a responsibility and power with the platform.

So please.

Again, my stance on martial law and all is consistent.

I'm still going to be out there.

Never change.

In our next episode, we're going to talk about it.

That's why Marcos Jr. is not inviting me to Malacanang and all of that probably.

You know where my stance is, right?

That's why wala akong ambisyon, whatever.

Because I know talagang hindi kami makakaintindihan sa issue ng past.

But on the future, maybe we can work on certain things for the better of the country

but not as part of the administration.

Kasi nakita ko bro, yung iba nag-sarcastic comment.

Kasi yung communications, creative comments.

Ilan yung undersecretary?

Twenty-seven. Joke lang.

Ilan yung ang daming assistant secretary?

Napakalaki naman budget na department.

So I saw people making sarcastic comments.

Like, no, I don't want to be spokesman for any Filipino president.

At least for now, not the ones.

You know what I'm saying?

No, I'm not applying for a job.

I'm very happy where I am in terms of the independence I enjoy.

Obviously, I have my frustrations.

I'll give you na yan.

But no, I'm not applying for a job in the government, et cetera.

And wala akong ambisyon to be chummy with BBM or anyone else

because I'm not that kind of person.

I have my own stance.

Now, if the president appreciates my independence of thought

and my stance on foreign policy, then okay, that's good.

But no, I'm not here trying to apply for anything like that.

So let me be very clear on the record where I'm coming from.

So thank you, bro, for giving me this chance

because, again, go to my Twitter account, check.

Out of what? 90,000 followers I have there.

If you check my verified, they're ambassadors, bro.

Practically all ambassadors in Manila

and ambassadors all around the world.

And they're all following me, bro.

And I'm not saying this as a payabang.

You'd feel like, whoa, dude, parang ayusin ko.

Parang hindi ata ako respetable.

Kasi balahura ako on Twitter.

So minsan, I feel bad, bro.

But I'm fighting the good.

I mean, it would have been very easy for me, bro, to play it safe,

to be padisente and all of that.

Pero, bro, that's a disservice to our country

because if I also play safe,

like some journalist and all above the fray,

then walang mangyari.

There's no impetus, there's no catalyst.

So yes, I look like a fool once in a while.

Nakakairita minsan ako all.

But I hope people understand

this is a passion and love for our country

and where we're coming from.

And I want the world to respect us again, bro.

Kasi, bro, naihirt talaga ako noon noong time na yun

na dinidismiss tayo as a Chinese lackey.

Tapos si Duterte, mga ganun.

So I got probably carried away.

Finally, ito na.

Finally, a little bit of courage and all.

So I'm excited now to talk about our Westpac.

It just happened BBM is the president, right?

But we know it's not BBM making the decision alone.

It's with all of these people around him

that a lot of them I know very well

and have been friends, in fact.

So I know what's going on there.

I know what's going on there to a great degree.

But as I said,

I still don't know many details about the EDCA.

And even if I were to know if it's confidential,

I cannot share.

So that's why hindi final ang stance ko.

Pasensya, bro, if I'm talking too much.

Biglang nagingyari.

Basta on Twitter, I have an audience

which is global audience.

So, and by the way,

the global audience know everything about martial law

and all of that, right?

So it's not like we're trying to show me a tweet

that says martial law is good.

No, I will never say anything like that.

It's not like sa Pilipinas, no?

We're just talking about foreign policy

and West Philippine's national interest.

And kung may tama naman ginawa, what's so wrong?

So someone came up with this ridiculous metaphor.

Like, oh, if may isang tao na,

like, I don't know, pumatay na isang tao

tos binigyan ng cake the next day,

magta-thank you ka for cake niyan.

But dude, we're not talking about cakes here or cars.

We're talking about our national interest,

our territorial integrity, et cetera.

And we're talking about alliances

to prevent us being bullied and protecting our interests.

So no, this is a separate issue.

It's foreign policy and that's what I'm talking about.

But people will see soon.

When it comes to the past and democracy,

that's the reason why BBM will never feel comfortable with me

because he knows my stance is quite different

from where his supporters and all stand.

But I want to end this episode on this note

and this is where I push it back to you.

So ang problema ni BBM ngayon

is wala talaga isang reliable, influential bloggers, right?

To defend...

CTP. CTP ang...

Okay, okay.

But how effective...

Ang problema, hindi reliable.

He would blog once a month, twice a month, ganon.

Nag-aaral yata siya, di ba?

Sa Baguio yata.

In my home town.

Mag-aaral abroad or...

So yun ang problema ni BBM.

Sa totoo lang din, hindi ko din alam ko

anong ginagawa ni Paul Soriano.

Marami.

Assistant Secretary and all, di ba?

Like what's going on there?

Parang yung creative communications,

yun talaga hindi ko mag-gets it.

Kasama siya.

Hindi ko pa rin mag-gets hanggang ngayon yung pinaka-role niya.

Are you surprised?

Ang malamnaw?

I mean, I don't know how to put it nicely.

Parang nasaan na sila, di ba?

Kulang ba sila sa budget?

What's going on there?

Hindi naman arrogance, pero parang...

Complacency.

Complacency na...

Siguro ano, baka ano din sila nasa mainstream media.

It's okay naman.

So, hindi ganoon na bibigyan ng masyadong importance.

Tapos makikita mo yung sa satisfaction survey na tumaas naman.

So, baka wala silang masyadong incentive na patulan.

Pero...

Parang they're not worth it.

Yeah, they're not worth it.

And I mean, now beshi ka ng US, beshi ka ng Japan, beshi ka ng Australia, beshi ka ng Europe.

Masaya.

Good. I mean, yeah, I think there's the buzz and all.

And it's not like Russia is against him.

Actually, sa tingin ko, in a way, ipit ang China ngayon.

I think ang China ngayon, like, siyaksa na gagawin natin.

Pag bubuliin natin, lalo pupunta sa kabila, di ba?

Kung wala naman tayong sasabihin, nakakainis naman.

So, I think ipit din ang China ngayon.

Kaya ako, proposal ko sa China,

wag kayo magbuli at magbigay ka ng magandang investment,

di pwede namin i-dribble yung ETCA.

Ganoon lang naman yan.

I-dribble-dribble lang namin yan.

Unless mahina talaga tayo, we don't know how to dribble it.

But if I were the president, that's what I'll do.

I'll get leverage here, dribble it here, get something there.

That's how you do it, bro.

Negosyante ka dapat mag-isip, di ba?

That's how you do diplomacy.

Nagustuhan ko din yung style ni...

Hindi ko alam kung nakuwento ko sa'yo ito, babe.

Nung pumunta siya sa China,

he would use yung parang sentimental...

Nung bata ako, pumunta kami dito,

nang nanay ko, we met with Chairman Mao,

we're allies, so ganoon yung style niya.

Tapos nun sa World Economic Forum na,

binabash niya na yung China next week.

I mean, dude, meron problema.

You cannot get away with that if you keep on doing that, right?

Wait a minute.

Marami niya ginagawa yan.

If he sees China, he's super mad.

And then he goes sa kabila.

Sabi ko parang worse than me pa yata ito

pagdating sa diplomasi niya.

Too much na, di ba?

Because of course, I get invited to China and all.

So you can imagine, I cannot go there and bash him.

I'm a little bit diplomatic and all, di ba?

But anyway, I'm not going to put myself into trouble more.

Pag-quote na naman tayo.

Kasi isa sa my haters na dilawan,

talagang bro, pinapanood talaga yung mga meta ko.

Tapos sinescreenshot nila exactly yung part na ganito, ganito.

Then they'll try to portray me.

Sabi ko, wait lang, parang style DDS yan.

Hindi pala kayo masyadong...

Like, DDS style talaga.

That's why the quote,

the irony is the deliberate elimination of nuance.

Yung iti-twist-twist mo, that's tyranny, right?

So, hindi masyadong iba yung mga rabid dilawan niyan

dun sa mga DDS people.

And let me be very clear.

I always said, iba po yung mga kakampings

or 99.9% of kakamping

and the tiny na rabid na...

Sa akin lang ha.

Di ba you're saying na parang nawala yung mga rabid na kakampi,

mas less toxic.

Ang layo.

Ang layo.

I live through...

Kumbaga, active ako sa social media

noong buong time din na DDS.

Eka, you experienced that din.

Grabe, nabawasan yung pagka-toxic.

And ako naman, yun lang din ang ina-advocate ko.

Nabawasan yung pagka-toxic.

Let's talk about the issues.

Let's talk about...

Pero ngayon, less toxic na.

Hindi na masyadong ina-attack yung mga yellow, yung mga pink.

Si Lenny, atakian paminsan-minsan.

Yung mga pink naman, busy na.

Si Lenny at saka mga making vlog na sila from Hokkaido,

from Stockholm, from Copenhagen.

Ngayon kasi mas busy nag-aaway yung mga loyalist

tsaka yung mga DDS.

Kaya sila sila yung nag-aaway, sila sila yung...

At case of their own medicine, sila yung nag-ano.

So, ayan.

Yeah, akin lang.

Parang it's not good for engagement.

Si Tatay kasi...

Parang he's good for online engagement, no?

Pag si Tatay Digong.

I mean, I was not a vlogger during Tatay Digong's time.

That's probably one of my regrets.

Sana I became a vlogger earlier.

Thank you to you, I became a vlogger during last elections pa lang.

But I can imagine engagement levels for political vlogging

was way higher during Tatay Digong, no?

Than now.

Kasi ngayon sobrang malamnaw, medyo unity, gano'n, and all.

But again, let me be absolutely clear.

My stance on martial law, human rights issues is consistent.

I've never...

So, I always said, a genuine opposition, right,

has a principled, but at the same time, nuanced approach.

You check the excesses, but you give credit where credit is due.

And you have the compartmentalized approach.

It's very, very important.

Hindi yung nega lang, toxic lang, or hindi yung, you know,

balingbingan na jump kaga to the other side.

No, no, no.

We have to be very clear about this.

Yung ngayon kulang sa atin, no?

We are extremes parate.

Walang matinong calibre.

Kulang tayo sa political sophistication.

Hindi kasi.

Ang problema, ano eh, most of yung mga politiko

is mga family who owns...

Yeah.

...who runs their provinces.

So, it's more of staying in power yung priority.

So, tatalon na lang ang tatalon.

It's really sad.

It's really sad.

Yeah.

Actually, Philippines is unique in that, no?

It's on earth, no?

Kasi kahapon, the other day, I was interviewing

si isang Spanish scholar na based in the Philippines

na expert niyan sa Latin America.

Sabi ko, di ba, similar ang Philippines sa Latin America,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He said, yes, but when it comes to dynasties and family domination,

Philippines is next level.

You will not find a single Spanish,

not even Mexico or Argentina.

Kasi doon, mga dynasties nila, maximum 10%

sa tura. Dito, like 90%.

Malikad eh.

Ang laki ng difference.

So, tama, marami tayong similarity sa kanila.

Yung aguat sa wealth, yung, alam mo,

yung haciendera culture.

Pero tayong talaga super family, dynastic,

personalistic.

So, we are way worse than Latin America.

And I knew that naman because I knew the numbers.

I cited it.

We're even worse than Latin America.

But for a Spanish or Latin American expert

to also say na, I was shocked with the Philippines.

I never saw that in Latin America.

He was in Mexico.

He said, next level talaga ang Pilipinas.

And I kind of agree.

Talaga next level ang Pilipinas.

And you're right.

That's why hindi tayo issue-based.

Hindi tayo issue-based eh.

Hindi tayo nationally interest-based.

Personalistic, family-based.

It's really frustrating.

But you know what?

We are also improving.

I think Philippines is much better than where it was 10 years ago.

Pero kailangan natin to go forward.

Kaya ako, I'm calling out these people

because they're making this about,

oh I hate President X,

so even when good things happen,

we don't say anything.

And whoever says the good things happened,

we'll attack him and try to cancel him or her.

Antoxic diba?

Ano itong style mo?

Walang magsusupport sa inyo.

Kaya ako nga, parati kong message sa mga kapamping,

get ready for 2025.

Elect pink party list.

Elect pink congressman, senators.

Diba yun ang focus there?

Big tent, sorry I caught you.

No, I didn't talk about this.

Diba ang problema is,

you need to create big tent coalitions.

And if yung cancel culture na ganyan ito,

magkakaproblema ako.

Oh by the way, Smeagol, cancel culture,

diba parang kinakancel ka rin ng mga kais ko mo?

What's going on there?

Sige, pag-usapan natin sa next episode.

Next episode, alright.

Medyo mahaba eh.

Okay.

Let's leave that for the next episode.

Next episode mga ka-meta, mga ka...

Sorry, ka-project Pilipinas,

ka-models of Manila.

I'm so sorry.

It's just a visceral instinctive thing.

Pag-usapan natin mga new movies that are coming out.

Tatlo, no?

Tatlo.

Apat, bro.

Meron pa yung gumbursa.

Nalaman ko lang kanina kay Pepe Joke na yun, ha?

O kapan also nag-imagine may exchanges din ako na...

Constructive exchanges with Pepe Joke, no?

Pag-usapan natin itong mga movie na ito

na may kinalaman sa demokrasya,

sa legacy ni Ninoy, at saka Martial Law, etc.

So, yan ang pag-usapan natin sa next episode.

Thank you very much, bro!

I really appreciate it and looking forward

to our next talk.