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00:00.0
Pag-uusapan natin ng mga malamutual fund na investment sa co-op.
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So ito po ay ang Joint Venture Savings Basket.
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So I'll be discussing co-op share capital investing, yung JVS basket natin,
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co-op share capital Joint Venture Savings Basket, terms and conditions,
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at saka yung pros and cons ng co-op share capital Joint Venture Savings Basket.
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Okay. Okay. Diba?
00:26.2
So yan po. Balik tayo sa ating attendance check kanina.
00:30.5
City, province, or country kung nasaan kayo ngayon.
00:32.8
At ano ang priority sa mga life goals ninyo?
00:35.9
So marami kayong mga life goals, diba?
00:38.0
So ano ba yung priority ninyo, Jaan?
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Okay. So ako, for example, ang priority ko sa aking mga life goals ay, yun nga,
00:50.0
to spend more time with my family and friends.
00:52.8
Pero tinanong natin ng ating mga YouTuber viewers, at meron po tayong 725 votes na nakuha,
00:59.5
ang sabi nila ay 55% magkaroon ng masaya at masaga ng pamumuhay.
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Okay. Tapos ang next naman ay magkaroon daw ng sariling tirahan, house and lotman o kondo.
01:14.8
So 16% yan.
01:16.6
Mapagtapos sa pag-aaral ang mga anak, 12%.
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Mabayaran ng utang 6% at magsisimula na ako ng aking negosyo, 12%.
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Okay? So dito sa ating malamutual fund na investment sa co-op,
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puna-muna ay pag-usapan natin ano ba yung co-op share capital investing.
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So dito sa ating co-op share capital investing,
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ito po ay, ang kooperativa kasi, it's composed of members that share the same interest
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with social, economic, and cultural objectives.
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So hindi lang puro profit, meron siyang social and cultural objectives.
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This is considered as a high-risk investment kasi sa datos nga po ng Co-Development Authority,
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marami po talagang mga nagsasara at mga non-functional na mga kooperativa.
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Kaya makinig mo kayo dito sa ating co-op share capital joint venture savings
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kasi magtuturo tayo kung paano yun mare-reduce.
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Okay? So ang co-op share capital investing,
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kapag tayo mag-i-invest sa ating co-ops, sa mga co-ops,
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hahanapin natin yung 10 years and above na in existence
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pag mamay-ari nila ang kanilang headquarters
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at greater than 80 points ang kanilang co-op pesos score.
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So pag tayo ay mag-i-invest sa mga kooperativa
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at maglalagay tayo ng share capital sa kanila,
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we have to undergo pre-membership seminar with them,
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o yung tinatawag na PMES.
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And we have to fulfill our duties as a member,
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so yung damayan, membership fee natin, kailangan babayaran natin yan.
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Meron din tayong voting right in the General Assembly
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kasi ang General Assembly, yan yung highest governing body ng kooperative
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at mayroon din yung usual na residency requirement.
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So ano ba yung features ng co-op share capital investing?
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Yung share capital na bili natin ay pareho lang yung presyo niyan
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hanggang-hanggang.
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Hindi ka tulad sa stock market na tumataas mo mababa
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yung kanyang stock price.
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At hindi po traded ang share capitals ng co-ops
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kasi wala tayong co-op share capital exchange.
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And mostly non-withdrawable po ang share capital sa co-ops.
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And usually kapag tayo ay mag-withdraw na
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o titiwalag na kailangan natin tumiwalag sa co-op
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at i-approve dapat ito ng Board of Directors.
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Ano naman yung advantages ng share capital investing?
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So you can start with the low amount.
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Marami naman mga strong cooperatives in the Philippines
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at yung ating share capital ay constant ang price.
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Sigurado tayo na yung nilagay natin ay makukuha natin siya.
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Ang disadvantages naman nito ay maraming mga co-ops ang high-risk
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at kailangan natin i-end ang ating membership
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para ma-withdraw ang ating capital
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kasi ang partial withdrawal usually ay hindi po yan allowed.
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So mahaba din po ang application process
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kasi kailangan po mag-pre-membership education seminar and all that.
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Kaya gumawa po kami ng solusyon on how to make this better.
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At ito po ay tinatawag natin na joint venture savings basket.
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Ito po ay under SEDP Co-op.
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So itong joint venture savings basket natin,
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pinupul natin yung savings or collective savings scheme ng members natin
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at ito ay ini-invest natin in various social enterprises and social investments.
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At ang mangyari dito profit and loss sharing tayo instead of interest on savings.
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Islamic banking pattern po yan.
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So ang mangyari dito, yung SEDP Co-op ang magmamanage ng pooled funds,
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pooled savings on behalf of the members
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at magbabayad na lang ng management fee ang SEDP Co-op,
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ang mga members sa SEDP Co-op para i-cover yung admin cost
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kasi di ba yung maraming mga kailangan gawin to be able to do this.
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SEDP Co-op also manages the pooled savings on behalf of the members
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and members pay management fee to SEDP Co-ops.
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Members can deposit or withdraw anytime subject to holding period guidelines.
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So unlike doon sa isa-isa kang pumupunta doon sa mga Co-op,
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itong joint venture savings basket natin pwede kang mag-withdraw anytime,
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hindi mo kailangang tumiwalag pero meron siyang holding period guidelines.
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So paano ito nangyari? Para siyang mutual fund o para din siyang UITF,
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the way that we design yung ating joint venture savings.
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So member savers of SEDP Co-op, lakihan natin para makita ninyo.
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Member savers of SEDP Co-op will deposit their money in a joint venture savings basket
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and then ito ay i-professionally manage.
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Pag yung mga naipon natin ngayon lahat ng yan ay i-manage ng SEDP Co-op
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and ini-invest ng SEDP Co-op sa mga social enterprises or social investments
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that result to either gains or losses.
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Kasi siyempre di ba kapag tayo nag-i-invest, pwedeng may gains dyan or may losses.
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Pero since this is a basket, nata-diversify natin yung ating investment
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and will reduce the risk of loss.
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And the gains or losses are then passed on to the members.
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So yan yung joint venture savings na basket.
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So tignan natin itong example, Co-op share joint venture savings basket.
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So ang gagawin, ang SEDP Co-op po ay mag-i-invest sa share capital ng iba't-ibang kooperativa.
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So pwedeng Co-op A, Co-op C, B, D, E, and F.
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Okay?
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Ngayon, itong lahat ng mga investment na ito ay ilalagay natin into what we call a basket.
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So mamimix na lahat dyan yung ating Co-op share capital.
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And what this means is, magbaparticipate ka doon sa Co-op share JVS basket natin,
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automatic, masaspread dyan sa anim, in our example, anim na Co-ops yung pera.
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Hindi lang nakatutok doon sa Co-op A, Co-op B, o kung ano mang Co-ops yan.
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Okay?
07:59.4
So yan, and how does it work?
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So yung member savers natin will deposit their money in a joint venture savings basket
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professionally managed by SEDP Co-op which are invested in share capital in various Co-ops.
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So ito, specific talaga na lahat share capital in Co-operatives lang yung paglalagyan niya.
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That result to gains or losses passed on to members.
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Okay?
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So bigyan natin ng example.
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For example, noong 2021, ang ating joint venture savings basket.
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So naglagay tayo sa Co-op A ng P10M at nagkaroon niya siya ng dividend ng 5%.
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So kumita siya ng P500,000.
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Yung Co-op B, naglagay tayo ng P5M.
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Yung SEDP Co-op na ito, kasi galing sa mga savings natin, 6% yung dividend rate.
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And for example, ang dividend dyan ay P300,000.
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2% naman yung P500,000, so P10,000.
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D, 10%, P25M nilagay natin, so P2.5M.
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And then, yung Co-op E, 8% ang dividend rate.
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Ang nalagay natin ay P5M, so dividend ay P400,000.
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Ang F, 9% ng P5M na nilagay natin, so P450,000.
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So ang total na exposure natin sa 6 na kooperatiba na ito ay P50.5M.
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And for 2021, ang kinita ay P4,160,000.
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So ano ngayon yung mangyayari?
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Yung P4,160,000, ididivide natin yan sa P50.5M.
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So that will result to 8.24% na dividend.
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Pero tatanggalan natin siya ng management fee na 2.5%.
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Kasi yung pag-i-invest dyan at mag-monitor sa mga kooperatiba,
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magpapasweldo tayo ng mga tao.
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So kailangan may management fee.
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So tatanggalin yung management fee na 2.5%.
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So ang resulta ngayon yan ay 5.74% na dividend rate para sa 2021.
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So kung naglagay ka ng P100,000 times 5.74%,
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ang makukuha mo ngayon ay P5,740 na dividend for that year.
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At yan po ay tax-free.
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So ito naman, for example, naglagay tayo for 2022.
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So dahil dumami yung mga investors natin, lumaki.
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Pero si Co-op A, 2% na lang yung naging dividend niya, bumaba.
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So P200,000.
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Si Co-op B, 3%, P10,300,000.
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Si Co-op C, 11%, pero P1,000,000 lang nalagyan natin.
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So P110,000 yung nakuha natin dyan.
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Si Co-op D, 11% din, P100,000,000 yung nalagay natin.
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So P11,000,000.
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And so on and so forth.
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So ang total ng basket natin, P138,000,000,
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spread over these cooperatives.
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At ang dividend ay P12,39,000,000.
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So P12,390,000 divided by P138,000 ay 8.98%.
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Minus 2.5% na management fee ay 6.48% ngayon ang ating dividend rate para sa 2022.
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So kung may P100,000 tayo, mumultiply natin ng 6.48%.
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P6,480 po yung ating kikitain.
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So kung kayo po ay interested, ito po ay ang tinatawag nating SEDP Co-op Share Capital.
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At ito po ang kanyang terms, Share Capital Joint Venture Savings Basket.
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At ito po ang ating terms and conditions.
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So Share Capital Basket para mas mabilis.
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So this is open to all SEDP members.
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Ang minimum po nito ay P10,000 and in multiples of P10,000.
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Tapos ang maximum po ay P1,000,000 kung interested kayo.
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Ang dividend payout po nito ay annual.
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So every year po natin ibibigay kasi ang mga co-ops ay nagbibigay din po ng dividend every year.
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Ang return po dito, ang pinapredict namin is ang estimate natin ay 4% to 7% per annum.
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So this is variable depending on the basket of cooperatives performance.
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So payout in wallets will not earn.
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Two years holding period po ito.
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At kapag nag-preterminate tayo, hindi natin natapos yung two years,
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pwede mo naman ma-withdraw pero may 10% na pretermination fee.
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2.5% ang ating annual management fee.
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Wala po itong guarantee.
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So kung tayo po ay malulugi, lahat po tayo ay may lugi na ma-experience.
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Pero pagkita, lahat din po ay kikita.
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If co-ops performance is bad, there may be possibility of 0% dividend and savings may decrease.
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Lalong-lalo na kapag nagsara yung kooperatiba, maaaring mabawasan yung savings natin.
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At katulad din yan ng mutual fund UITF.
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Pero this one, we will make sure na yung mga strong cooperatives ang makukuha natin.
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So ano yung pros and cons of share capital joint venture savings basket?
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Ang individual co-op investing kasi, you need to become a member of many cooperatives,
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you need to monitor all accounts in co-ops.
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So kung ikaw yung gagawaan yan, parang mga 25 cooperatives, so ikaw lahat ang gagawaan yan.
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And you also need to monitor the performance of all the cooperatives.
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So medyo mahirap-hirap siyang gawin pag gawin mo isa-isa.
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And there will be several transactions if you need to withdraw large sum
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kasi naka-spread sa iba-iba so kakausapin mo lahat yun.
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There's also high administrative cost for you
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kasi ang mga co-ops naman hindi naman yan naka-central sa Metro Manila,
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hindi naman po lahat online.
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So meron niyang cost of transportation and communications at magasnot din sa oras.
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It's also capital-intensive kasi kailangan mong mag-comply
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sa lahat ng mga minimum maintaining balances ng co-ops.
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Usually ang kailangan ng minimum maintaining balances na sa 3,000.
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So kung sampu yan, edi 30,000 na yan agad.
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So yung share capital joint venture savings basket naman,
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ito yung kanyang mga pros.
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So diversification.
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Mabilis na makakadiversify sa investment sa maliit na kapital lamang
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kasi pag-save mo sa 10,000 pesos mo,
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masaspread na yun sa lahat ng mga kooperatiba na nakapaloob dyan.
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Ang liquidity ay nandyan din kasi maaari mong makuha ang investment
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kung bigla ang kakailanganin ng pera.
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Hindi mo kakausapin yung maraming co-op
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at hindi mo kailangang tumiwalag sa kooperatiba.
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There's also no capital requirement
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kasi pwede ka nang makapagbukas sa halagang 10,000 pesos lam.
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And there is close monitoring of co-op performance
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kasi ang SEDP co-op po mismo ang mamamahala
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sa pagre-review ng performance ng kooperatiba.
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So ito rin po ay convenient kasi lahat po ng transactions natin ay online.
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And because we designed this as a joint venture savings, basket siya,
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it is still exempted sa co-operative savings natin o yung kikitain natin dyan.
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Okay?
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So, yung share capital joint venture savings basket cons naman,
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so mayroon niyang disadvantages,
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mayroong annual management fees.
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Pero hindi naman yung annual management fee natin ay winawaldas.
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But this is actually needed for monitoring and compliance.
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Tapos, there's also risk of loss.
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Kapag nalugi ang kooperatiba,
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maaaring wala tayong dibidendong makuha for that year.
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Naranasan ko na po yan sa ibang mga kooperatiba.
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Maaaring din pong magsara ang kooperatiba,
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so ito po ay ibabawas sa savings natin.
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So liliit yung ating savings.
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Pero hindi naman po siya, masi zero.
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Okay?
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Management risk is also there.
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Okay?
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So just to summarize, individual co-op investing at saka share capital joint venture savings basket.
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So tax exempt po, pareho silang tax exempt.
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Annual management fee sa individual co-op ay wala.
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Pero sa share capital ay mayroon pong 2.5% per annum sa ating share capital basket.
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If co-op incurs losses, wala pong dividend sa individual co-op.
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Pareho naman sa share capital basket natin.
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If co-op closes down, you lose everything kapag naglagay ka sa co-op na yan.
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Pero kapag dito tayo sa share capital basket natin,
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mababawasan lang yung portion na nag-close na co-op.
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Okay?
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Next, membership.
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Kailangan mong magpamember sa maraming co-op kung maging individual co-op investing ka.
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Pero sa share capital basket, sa senti co-op ka na lang magpapamember.
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So isa na lang, di ba?
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Ang co-op account monitoring natin, sa individual co-op investing,
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you monitor all the accounts, your co-op accounts.
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Sa share capital basket natin, SEDP will monitor the co-ops for you.
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So hindi mo na kailangang tignan okay pa ba yung co-op na ito o hindi.
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Ang SEDP na yung titingin niya.
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Yung co-op performance assessment, you make your own assessment.
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Yung co-op PESO score na pagkahirap-hirap kuhanin
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kasi hindi naman lahat ng kooperativa ay nak-audit ng CDA.
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So kami po misma, we make our own internal co-op PESO score.
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So SEDP conducts the assessment.
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Yan po, diyan po na pupunta yung ating management fee.
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Okay?
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Diversification, wala kapag tayo sa individual co-op investing.
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Pero sa share capital basket, mayroon po tayong diversification dyan.
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Liquidity, you need to exit the co-op membership
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kapag ikaw mag-wi-withdraw sa share capital.
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Pero dito sa atin, sa share capital basket, it's withdrawable anytime.
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Capital needed, you comply with all the co-op maintaining balances.
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Dito naman sa atin ay, sa share capital natin,
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it is only as low as P10,000.
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Okay?
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And just to give you figures to compare,
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the share capital versus the,
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may co-op share capital investment versus the stock market.
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So ito po yung graph natin.
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So ako, ang projection ko for the co-op investment for this year
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ay nasa 8% yung makukuha.
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For last year pala, for 2022.
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So kapag naglagay tayo ng P1M noong 2005,
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yung ating, at nilagay natin yan sa stock market,
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yung P1M ay worth P303.13M.
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Okay?
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Pero kapag nilagay natin yan doon sa mga piling kooperatiba na pinaglalagyan ko,
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yung P1M na yan ay P8.13M na.
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No?
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By December 31, 2013.
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Okay?
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So if you take a look at this,
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yung co-op line is far higher compared to the stock exchange line.
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Yung co-op line is a steady slope.
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Yung PSE line goes up and down.
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So ano po yung ibig sabihin yan?
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So yung co-op line is far higher compared to PSE line.
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Ibig sabihin, mas profitable yung co-op than the stock market.
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Co-op line is a steady slope.
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The co-op investment is stable and consistent.
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Yung PSE-I line goes up and down.
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Ibig sabihin, unpredictable talaga kapag sa stock market tayo nag-e-invest.
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Yan po, ano?
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