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Bago natin makasama ang ating magiging guest ay atanggap po muna tayo ng audiovisual presentation para sa ating paksang ito.

Verdugo, mga abusado ng karapatang pantao.

Ito ang karaniwang naratibo ng CPP-NPA-NDF patungkol sa mga puwersa ng gobyerno.

Ito ang kanilang madalas na pinagsisigawan sa tuwing nababawasan ng kanilang hanay sa mga enkwentro.

Ngunit kung susuriin mabuti, sino nga ba ang totoong mga abusado ng karapatang pantao?

Ang CPP-NPA-NDF ay isang tusong kilusan at maraming buhay na ang nasayang sa kanilang mga mapanlinlang na pamamaraan.

Isa na rito ay ang paghahain ng mga batas upang maprotektahan ang kanilang mga makasariling interes gaya ng Human Rights Defenders Bill o House Bill No. 10576.

Kung walang tiyak na basihan, madali lamang sabihin na kahit sino ay tagapagtanggol ng karapatang pantao.

Gaya na lamang ni George Caoris Madlos, isang wanted NPA leader at abusado ng mga katutubo na ipinagsisigawan ng mga teroristang grupo na isang freedom fighter.

Dagdag pa rito ang ilan sa mga nakasaad sa House Bill No. 10576 ay taliwas sa mga umiiral na batas gaya ng Republic Act No. 9160 o Anti-Money Laundering Act of 2001,

RA No. 11479 o Anti-Terrorism Act of 2020 at RA No. 10173 o Data Privacy Act of 2012.

Kaya't isang matinding paalala na hindi lahat ng nagsasabi na sila ay para sa mamamayan, ay tunay na mabuti ang hangarin para sa bayan.

Sadyang ang ilan sa kanila ay tuso at gagawin ng lahat maisakatuparan lamang ang kanilang mga idolohiyang walang patutunguhan.

Ayun, malinaw ha? Kailangan natin talakayin ito sapagkat kanina nagtatanong si Atty. Sal Panelo, ano ang mga salient features nitong maniobra na House Bill No. 1077 ngayon? May makakasama tayo para magpaliwanan.

Brother Franco, please introduce.

Yes, at via zoom ay ating makakasama. Si Prosecutor Philosopher Chris Gonzalez ang spokesperson ng Original Task Force, LCAC 6.

At also makakasama rin po natin si Atty. James Clifford DeSantos, Associate Solicitor Office of the Solicitor General, spokesperson ng Legal Cooperation Cluster ng NTF-LCAC.

May isa pa si Atty.

At may isa pa si Atty. James Clifford DeSantos, Associate Solicitor Office of the Solicitor General, spokesperson ng Legal Cooperation Cluster ng NTF-LCAC.

Puro magagaling, matatapang at matatag sa paninindigan para sa demokrasya at totoong pagpapatupad ng batas ng mga abogado makakasama natin.

Unahin natin pagbati muna si Prosecutor Chris Gonzalez and kasanod si Atty. Santos at Atty. Dios. Go ahead muna Prosecutor Chris.

At sa ating mga butihing spokespersons ng Legal Cooperation Cluster.

At sa ating mga buti ang magiging pagsapo natin ngayong araw. Maraming salamat po.

Okay. Ang next ay si Atty. Sirio. Atty. Sirio.

Santos po.

As Atty. Santos.

Okay. Sige Atty. Santos.

Magandang umaga po Dr. Lorraine Caerin, Dr. Franco, Prosec Chris at sa lahat po ng mga mahal nating kababayang sumusubaybay ngayon.

Sige. Unahin muna namin si Prosec. Hold your line ha. Ating dalawang bagong talaga ng mga tagapagsalita ng National Legal Cooperation Cluster ng NTFL.

Atty. Santos sir, ano po ang pangamba ng taong bayan sa ganitong palusot na maniobrang batas daw na gusto gawin sa Kongreso,

pang-apat na yata nila ito na attempt ng grupong kamatayan kabag party list na kami na magsasabi ito ay mga active operatives of the CPP, NPA, NDF.

Ano po ang mga mahahalagang punto na dapat tutulan at dapat maibunyag natin dito? Go ahead Atty. Santos.

Anong unang ka-Eric, re-reiterate ko ang sinabi natin dito sa press statement namin na ang House Bill 77 is a grave, vicious and insidious threat against the Philippines' democratic way of life.

Tinawag natin ganito dahil tulad nga ng sinabi ni Justice Angie maganda pakinggan, human rights, defenders, protection. Sino ba namang aayaw sa human rights, protection? Pero ito nga, obvious po ito ay nilalakad ng kabag group at gagamit ito bilang shield para mapahina ang law enforcement, ang reach ng law enforcement laban sa kanila.

Marami po tayong point out na constitutional infirmities ng Panokalang Batas na ito. At isa sa salient talaga, sa nakakabahala, ang very broad at very vague na definition ng human rights defenders.

Ayon sa Section 4 Letter B ng Panokalang Batas, human rights defender refers to any person who, individually or in association with others, acts or seeks to act to protect, promote or strive for the protection and realization of human rights and fundamental freedoms and welfare of the people at the local, national, regional and international levels.

Base sa definition na ito, wala tayong makitang concrete or comprehensible standard para masabi na sino ba talaga itong human rights defenders na ito. Kasi kung pagbabasayan natin ng kasalukuyang definition, kahit sino pwedeng magsabi na sila human rights defender dahil walang comprehensible standard.

Sila ay human rights defender on the pretext na ipapamukha nila o papalabas nila na pinoprotectahan nila ang karapatan ng ating mga kababayan. At bukod pa po dito, kasi ang sabi ng definition, individually or in association.

Ito, whether formal or informal, registered or unregistered, that strive for the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms and welfare of the people.

So for example, makikita natin dito na yung definition ng human rights organization. Sobrang vague at delikado ito dahil sinabi na kahit yung mga informal at yung mga unregistered ng mga grupo,

maaari nilang i-claim na sila ay human rights organizations. By incorporation and in relation sa naunang definition, kung sino yung mga membro noon, pwede nilang i-claim na sila ay human rights defenders.

So delikado itong mga definition na ito dahil ito ang pinakapuso ng panukalang batas. Lahat ng iba pang provision dito, yung mga karapatan na ginagawad sa kanila, mga proteksyon.

At yung mga penalty laban sa ating law enforcers, lahat naka-ankla sa vague na provision na ito."

Kasi ganito lang ba kasimpla yan Atty.? May NPA na pumatay na napakarami, nahuli siya, tapos sabi niya hindi ako NPA, human rights defender ako, tapos tapos na ang kwento.

Ganito lang kasimpla yan kasi ganoon yung sinabi niya. Ito sa definition na ito, saklaw siya. Kasi ipinaglalaban ko, katulad ng sinasabi ng mga urban operatives ng CPP, NPA, NDF, sila Teddy Casino, Arlene Brosas, may ipinaglalaban yan, legitimate na ipinaglalaban nila yung mga magsasaka etc.

So kahit na terorista, pwede mong ikutin at sabihin, hindi, ano yan, human rights defender yan.

And then as a result of this bill, all those lahat ng benefits na mahukuha nila, protected sila. In other words, yung isang terorista ay napoprotektahan ng bill na ito pag naging batas ito for the simple reason na sinabi niya human rights defender ako.

Q1. Tama ba attorney?

... must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application. Sa kasalukuyang definition po nito, malawak po masyado. Magkakalituhan nga tayo kung sino ba talaga yung legitimate human rights defenders and kung sino yung mga nagpapanggap lang, yung mga terorista na magsuot ng T-shirt o palabasin nila sa media na sila ay nagpoprotekta. Yan ang kinakatakot natin dito."

Q1. Tama ba attorney?

... That's the pinaka-soul ng deception nitong urban operative, not just the urban operatives but the CPP, NPA, NDF and now they've very shamelessly done this.

Q1. Ma'am kukuha natin ng reaction si Atty. Sirio. Sir, bago kay Prosecutor Cris, gaano po kaimportante na maipakita kung sino dapat at ano dapat ang kategorya ng human rights at dapat i-correct itong title ng mga ginagawa nilang panluloko batay sa explanation ngayon ni Atty. Santos?

Go ahead Atty. Sirio. Ano pa mga iba pang mabibigat na mga dapat pangalagaan natin sa karapatan natin?

Halimbawa sinasabi ni Justice Angie Miranda at ni Prosecutor Cris in previous interview nakikita namin na delikado ito sapagkat hindi pwedeng gawin ang legitimate and lawful surveillance as provided for by anti-terrorism law.

Hindi pwedeng gawin sa kanila ang mga pag-check ng kanilang solicitation in financial activities na sa anti-terrorism financing law din yan. Lalo na kapag sila na-declare na mga human rights defenders by association, collectively or individually. Ano ang reaction mo na paliwanag Atty. Sirio?

Atty. Maraming salamat po. Ang reaction ko sa financing, unahin natin yan, yan ay sinabatas natin para isa sa ating treaty obligation against terrorism financing, international crimes of terrorism.

Kasi nagririnig tayo sa ating treaty obligation. Hindi maganda sa isang imahe ng mga Pilipino na binabaliwala natin ang pinirmahan nating obligation sa international.

What about sa lawful surveillance? Allowed naman ito under the provisions of anti-terrorism law. Gusto nila itong i-technical sa pamamagitan nitong human rights defenders. How do you react to that?

So napansin naman natin na it already withstood the scrutiny of the Supreme Court. Hindi po ba? Na-sustain ang constitutionality nito.

We cannot prohibit indirectly what is allowed directly.

At talaga namang nakikita natin na pumapanig ang ating CHR sa tuwing madedehado ang kanilang panig ng NPAs and everything. Ano po ba ang nakikita nyo dito? Ano nakikita? Supportado ito? Or what do you think about this process pagdating sa Commission on Human Rights?

Yes Brother Franco, dalawang bagay. Una, the Commission on Human Rights is a functioning body. Ginagawa naman niya ang kanyang mandato.

And there is no need to create another parallel body to take over the functions of the Commission on Human Rights. Dahil kung babasahin mo yung panukalang batas, parang kulang nilang sabihin nila na papalitan nila yung CHR tapos sila nilang gumawa ng trabaho ng CHR.

At kung ako yung taga-CHR, kung ako lang naman, may insulto ako rito sa panukalang batas para sinasabi nila Congressman Lagman na itong mga congressistang sumusuporta, si Brozas, si Manuel.

At ito yung gawin nating isang komitiba na gagawa ng trabaho para sa inyo. Sa isang malaking sampal, isang malaking insulto at ito yung mga bagay na hindi na dapat pinag-aaksayan ng resources ng gobyerno dahil hindi na kailangan. Ito yung isang kalabisan.

At ito yung Human Rights Defenders Committee ay mga grupong hindi objective ang pananaw sa mga issue. These are groups that are biased and according to former CPP-NPNDF cadres and leaders na nagbalik sa loob sa pamahalaan kagaya nung resource persons sa press conference ng NPFL kakahapon, itong mga grupong ito ay affiliated with the CPP-NDF cadres.

So basically biased against the government. And then bibigyan mo sila ng legitimacy, ng posisyon, isa sa batas mo ang kanilang organization at maging kabahagi ng CHR.

So it's a host of groups that are evidently and obviously anti-government. So there's no fairness and equity in that situation.

At ito yung pananaw sa mga grupong hindi na dapat pinag-aaksayan ng gobyerno dahil hindi na kailangan kailangan ng resource persons sa pamahalaan kagaya nung resource persons sa pamahalaan kagaya ng gobyerno.

If the proposed House Bill No. 77, the Human Rights Defenders Act, is intended to protect members of the NPA na hindi sila pwedeng kasuan at wala silang tangan-tangan o hawak na armas,

then that is personal knowledge on the origin, on the source, on who is really bound to benefit from this law.

So ang ibig sabihing yan, kung sinuportahan nila Cong. Lagman at mga proponents ng Kabataan, Partylist, Gabriela, ACT Teachers, ang isang panukalang pinag-usapan sa loob ng meeting ng CPP-NDF-NPA,

na designated terrorist organization by the Anti-Terrorism Council, and if the plan as revealed by the former Kabataan Kesan Secretary yesterday originated from the CPP-NDF-NPA and is now being promoted in Congress,

why not we check on the liability of the lawmakers who are promoting a plan formulated at talagang drafted by the CPP-NDF-NPA?

Ito mga kongresista na sinusulong ang panukalang batas na pinagplanuhan at pinag-usapan ng CPP-NPA sa loob ng kanilang pagpupulong.

So if the OSG Court can consider looking into the liability of the proponents of this law based on the first-hand revelation of the former Kabataan Kesan Secretary. Back to you, Brother Franco.

Prosec and the attorneys, whoever wants to answer. This bill has a lot of repugnant provisions. Nakakangilabot yung mga provisions. But there's one that stands out for me. It's Section 39.

And the title is the Obligation to Promote and Facilitate Human Rights Education. And it mandates the DepEd and the CHED to include the human rights defenders and their importance in the education curricula. Could you respond to this, please? What do you think about this? Just go ahead, Prosec.

Okay, Dr. Reign. When we checked the NSTP modules in Iloilo of several schools, because we would like to know the content. Kasi kung titignan mo ang general module, meron niyang patriotism.

Yan ang reference material. Yung Philippine Society and Revolution. Again, really? Yan ang ituturo nila? Reference material. Yan ang tinuturo nila. Yan ang tinuturo nila.

And na-alarma kami dahil it is being taught under the module ng patriotism. Of course, that school can always claim that they have academic freedom, they have the right to choose what materials. But then again…

I'm sorry, Prosec. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I misunderstood. This is happening right now? Yeah, sa Iloilo. In Iloilo right now, yung Amado Guerrero is Joma season kasi mga kababayan. So yung itinuturo ito sa isang skwela sa Iloilo, so parang silang nagpapadepa ba ang tawag?

Parang padepa. Oh, it's ongoing. Okay. So ang premise mo, Prosec, sa tanong ni Ma'am Lorraine, if they can do it right now without even this pretentious and very dangerous Human Rights Defenders Bill na mailusot ito sa ating mga kabataan, itong mga dokumento nila at mga babasahin na nagpapabagsak sa gobyerno, what will prevent them kapag may batas na ganito? Tama po ba?

Precisely, Eric. Kung nagagawa nila ito ngayon na mayroon tayong anti-terrorism law, and prior to the enactment of the anti-terrorism law, eto na yung ginagawa nila. We will be opening the floodgates of subversive materials, terrorist materials flooding our schools. And we cannot allow that to happen. If we allow that to happen, malaking pananagutan natin sa bayan ng Pilipino dahil sa kapabayaan natin.

Ma'am, and they can simply just cover up na that is part of human rights education provided for by Human Rights Defenders Law. Doon sila magtatago. Hindi mo maku-question.

And if this passes into a law, then it legitimizes the presence of communist terrorist groups inside our educational system. And to be very clear about this, you're going to have cretins like, what's his name? Baba, what's his name?

Si Renato Boyrali.

Ang solusyon lang ay maghimagsik that kind of poison and hatred and disrespect towards government being taught to our children.

And you will have karatagawa na ang mga kabataan dapat mag-NPA, okay yan. Kasi nanawagan siya ng open NPA recruitment, Human Rights Defenders din siya.

I want to hear from Atty. Joss. Atty. Joss, what do you think?

Atty. Joss and Atty. Santos, dalawa kayo sir. You can have your share.

Kung ganito, itong salamat po Usec Lorraine at pag-brought up nitong Section 39, ganitong ganito ang estilo nila.

Mapapansin niyo yung section na yan, napaka-legitimate nung dating. Pero sa second sentence, from teaching, nagkakaroon sila ng self-advertisement ng sarili nila.

Yung first part, legitimate kasi tayo naman sa Republika ng Pilipinas, signatory tayo na ang United Nations Declaration of Human Rights.

Yung protocol ito, International Convention on Civil and Political Rights, obligasyon talaga natin na i-uphold ang human rights.

And ganoon din ang gustong sabihin itong first sentence, napaka-legitimate. Pero tignan niyo ang agenda nila, sinisingit nila sa provision na legitimacy.

Kung hindi mo talaga babasayan o hihimayin ang provision, mapapa-oo ka nalang. Kasi nandoon sinisingit nila clandestinely ang mga agenda nila na ito nga, basayan natin...

... shall include information about this act and the important and legitimate work of human rights defenders."

... May check and balance naman dito. May nabanggit na deaf-edged, na alam naman natin may tiwala tayo sa kanila na i-screening nila ang mga materials na ituturo sa ating mga kabataan.

Nevertheless, ito legit, okay lang ito. Kasi yung second part lang ng paragraph 1 ng section 39. Yan ang napaka-uso nila na in-insert nila ang kanila mga personal agenda."

Atty. Santos, Atty. James, what's the difference between yung sinasabi ni Gusto ni Vice President na ang National Peace Curriculum which is going to teach presumably about human rights and what the CTGs want?

Itong pagpasok nila sa ating educational system. It's about human rights defenders education. So what's the difference? Why are we upping arms?

Sa section 39, ang prone dito ang contamination. Sobrang lawak ang ating educational system from the basic education up to the tertiary level of education.

And ang dami po natin, decentralized po usually ang management ng ating mga state universities. And very prone po talaga na mapasokan ang mga materials na makinalaman dito sa sinasabi ng section 39, na hindi po natin naalam baka unti-unti nang niradicalize ang ating mga estudyante.

Under section 48, penalty for any other violations of the act. Kapag hindi po nasunod itong section 39, meron pong ipinapatawan na penalty.

Hindi mo sundin.

There's another difference that I'm seeing. Parang sinabi niyo nga sir na napakaganda pakinggan. But the one big difference that I'm seeing is that where is this coming from? It's coming from the CTGs.

So that's the main thing there. So they get something that seems noble and beautiful and pure. But because it's by the CTG, we can guarantee you they will turn it into poison and hatred.

Imagine Ma'am Noreen V. Franco sa ating mga resource persons, mga kababayan. Without any dent ng kahihiyan, talagang inilagay nilang sarili nila na magiging part ng Human Rights Committee that will determine, identify, categorize and provide for the inclusion kung sinong pwedeng maging human rights defenders.

I'll read it Erick. Masahin ko lang yung section na iyon. Section 41, para malaman ang mga kababayan natin. It's the creation of Human Rights Defenders Protection Committee. It's an independent body from the CHR to be composed of a chairperson and six other members.

Sila panamili kung sino. The six members shall be jointly nominated by two representatives each of the Philippine Alliance of Human Rights Advocates, Karapatan Alliance, yung Karapatan, at saka yung Free Legal Assistance Group and the NUPL.

Okay ako mag-identify ka agad sa inyo mga lawyers, mga bugado natin kasama. Ang NUPL is a CPP created front organization at ito ay may underground component. Ang meaning nga dapat ng NUPL ay National Union of Patakas Lawyers.

Kasi nagpapatakas ito ng NPA at ito yung mga nanloko sa korte na nagkaroon ng waiver, peace talks nila at pinatakas nila ang mga top leaders of the Communist Party. Dapat nga ang pangalan nito is National Union of Patakas Lawyers.

Na hindi pa nila binabalik ang mga preso. So ito ay CPP created. Ang underground organization ito mga kababayan sa ating lawyers and resource persons ay lumaban. Lupon ng mga manananggol ng bayan at ito ay part ng NDF, Designated Terrorist Organization ito. Mga abugadong teroristang connected at mga Communist Party members din ito.

Ay pangalan ako ng isa. Isa dyan si Edrio Lalia, si Lazarate, si Colmenares. Mga notorious ito na CPP na mga abugado at nag-put up ito ng law firm nila na Public Interest Law Center, PILC. At ito ang kumakalaban sa gobyerno. Mga abugado din sila. At sila ngayon ay gusto nilang gawin sila na Human Rights Defenders Protection Committee.

Number two, karapatan. Ang karapatan Atty. Sir Edrio, Atty. Santos, Atty. Prosec Gonzalez ay piyansador ng NPA. So ang isa tagapagpatakas ng NPA, ang isa piyansador ng NPA. Ibig sabihin CPP din na nag-create nitong karapatan at ma-include sila dyan sa loob ng Human Rights Defenders Protection Committee.

Ang para, hindi ito sa kanila. Yung Alliance of Human Rights Advocates pero maraming sila dyan kaibigan nila galing sa kanila. Ang flag, hindi rin ito sa kanila pero kinakaibigan din nila ito. At ang mga angsyeste, sino ang nagbigay sa kanila ng karapatan na sila lang ang pwedeng maging Human Rights Determining Forces.

At parang sila lang ang may karapatan na mag-exercise ng prerogative as an independent body to determine the rights and authority ng batas na ito ay mapapailalim sa kanila. My goodness. This is a blatant na pag-usurp ng kapangyarihan ng Estado papunta sa kanila.

How do you react to this Prosec Gonzales? Common question to the three of you. Go ahead Prosec.

I also have a question on top of that Prosec. What is the mandate of this committee? Ano yung extent ng power ng mga ito?

Dugtong doon sa tanong namin. How do you explain and react to this? Bakit ito'y trademark na trademark ng CPP operations? Prosec Gonzales and the rest of the lawyers.

Yes, Eric. I would like to reiterate that two of the organizations that are nominated to be part of the Human Rights Committee is identified by former Congress of the CPP and the FNP as their front organization.

So, is there any legal basis to legitimize them? The answer is no. Do we allow it? The answer is no. We cannot legitimize or legalize front organizations of the CPP and the FNP, much less gawin silang parallel organization under the Commission on Human Rights.

If they are given the power to choose to accredit or to select kung sino yung tatawaging human rights defenders, then that would be giving them too much power to circumvent the law and we cannot allow that to happen.

And then the next question, who gave them the right to appoint themselves as human rights defenders? Maybe this is the consequence of being conceited, of being self-proclaimed self-righteous.

I am more of a human rights defender than my neighbor is something very presumptuous.

And because it is presumptuous, hindi pwedeng i-allow yan ng batas dahil you are claiming a certain sense of special treatment from the law.

And for our congressmen, yung mga proponents ng batas, na hindi nila makita itong inequality, itong pagbibigay ng special treatment to a certain class of people, this is the height of stupidity on the part of these lawmakers and the researchers.

Atty. Santos and Atty. Serio.

Tatlo yung observation ko dito. Marami nakalagay na powers dito yung committee. Mayroon tayong 12 na naka-enumerate under House Bill 77.

Pero yung una ko pang gusto i-point out dito, sinasapawan niya talaga itong CHR. Sa ilalim ng ating saligang batas, nakalagay doon na ang CHR mayroon siyang power to investigate on its own or on complaint by any party,

all forms of human rights violations involving civil and political rights. Dito sa House Bill 77, parang mas pinapalawak pa ang power ng committee na ito kesa sa CHR.

Dahil ang nakalagay dito, itong committee na ito mayroon siyang power to investigate on its own or on complaint by any party all forms of violation of human rights and fundamental freedom of human rights defenders.

At ginibigyan ulit dito ng preferential treatment ang human rights defenders. Yung pangalabang gusto ko i-point out sa kapangyarihan itong committee na ito, maaari siyang maging balakid sa law enforcement dahil mayroon siyang role na ginagampanan sa pag-establish ng mga sanctuaries.

Yung mga sanctuaries, ito ang mga safe refuge na kapag na-declare a sanctuary, magiging out of reach sa ating law enforcers. Sabi dito sa Section 19, sanctuary shall be considered established if that person gives confidential notice to the Human Rights Defenders Protection Committee created under this Act indicating that said place, building or area has been constituted as a sanctuary.

At dahil nga ang mga nauupo dito sa kasalukuyang form ng bill na ito ay mga member ng CTG, obvious naman ang magiging kalalabasan na ito. Mag-e-establish nila ng mag-e-establish ng mga sanctuary. The more the sanctuaries, the better for them. Kasi masing nga ang reach ng ating law enforcement.

The committee may perform other relevant functions as may be necessary to attain the objectives of this Act. Meron ko ditong clause na masyadong maaaring abusuhin para sabihin na may ibang mga powers na pwedeng i-exercise itong committee apart from those mentioned dito sa mga 11 other powers.

CPP, NPA, NDF promotion bill. Hindi ito Human Rights Defenders bill. You rejoin there to that common question, Atty. Sirio.

Yes. Ako rin ang tawag ko dito CTG bill. Pero with your respect to the media sector.

Atty. Sirio. Go ahead sir, dagdagan mo.

... Sila lang din mag-a-appoint. Mapapansin natin dito parang ang established norm ng ating Republika ay sinasabing checks and balance. Hindi lang ito nag-a-apply sa three great divisions of government. Nag-a-apply din ito sa mga iba-ibang sangay.

Dito mapapansin nyo, walang kinalaman si President ito. I don't know if mag-a-apply suppletorily ang administrative code.

Atty. Excuse me. Parang naging extra constitutional ang power nila, beyond the constitution. Parang naging isang special constitutional body sila na mas mataas pa sa office of the President

sapagkat hindi sila pa pwedeng pakialaman itong CPP, NPA, NDF kapag na-constitute na ang Human Rights Protection Committee nila. Tama po ba Atty?

... Maaaring sabihin natin ganoon pero sabihin natin unconventional ito. Kasi ang norm natin dito, we honor separation of powers yet may blending of powers ito na sinasabing checks and balance.

Pwede sila-sila lang. Kung sila-sila lang, kung naririnig sila-sila lang, naririnig ko graft. Ganoon din ang ibig sabihin ng graft, sila-sila lang.

... It will qualify as a public purpose para ma-disperse ang fund ng ating gobyerno. Coming out, may hirap gumawa ng task force pero ito parang automatic gagawin sila ng task force, sasahuran sila ng gobyerno.

... At pag sinabing independent committee, mataas ang kwesto nila. Ibig sabihin sila-sila magiging mga official ng gobyerno. Mga national officers na walang checks and balance, and siguro ang kwanito is bureau chief, ang opposition.

... And itong kwanito, mapapansin nyo, ang constitution ng sanctuary, rejoin ko lang si Atty. James. Ang kailangan lang, punta tayo sa section 19. Masaya natin ito.

... to any form of intimidation or reprisal. Napaka big diba? Intimidation lang. Has the right to a safe refuge or sanctuary. So ito na, safe sanctuary."

... Ito ang katumbas ng evidence required sa labor law. Napakababa nito. Mas mataas lang ito ng konti sa probable cause. Pero hindi sa napakaraming kasong isinampa nila for writ of amparo and writ of habeas data, wala isaman ang lumuso.

Pero sunod, ituloy natin ang section 19. Safe sanctuary shall be considered established. Ibig sabihin by operation of law. Walang kinalaman ang committee dito. Ano lang kailangan? If the person gives confidential notice to the Human Rights Defenders Protection Committee, create and then there's an act indicating the set place, building area has been constituted as a sanctuary.

Ano lang kailangan nila? Magtanggap ng confidential notice din. Wala. The sanctuary is being created by law.

Pero kasi may mechanisms tayo to reach them out. Pero this provision will serve as a layer, layer of protection for them na medyo kung sa guerra, first line of defense, makakaregroup sila to prepare for the main assault.

... Kasi itong committee na ito is adjunct to the CHR or budgetary. So kapag may confidential notice may agad na sanctuary and popundohan na yan ng gobyerno from the taxpayers through the CHR papunta sa sanctuary.

So these sanctuaries are mga secret places, mga safe houses. And this thing I think will not pass through constitutional scrutiny, yung requirement na public purpose in disbursement of public funds.

So maliban sa napakaraming constitutional infirmities, one of which is its failure to pass through the requirement of public purpose in disbursing a public fund.

May I have your comment on this? Para sa amin yan. Kasi kami palaging nagsasalita. Quiet po. Prosec please. Prosec first.

This is the height of censorship, tyranny of public opinion. Kumbaga hindi na natin pwedeng batikusin itong mga nagkiklaim na human rights defenders that would be curtailing my right to freedom, my freedom to express myself.

You cannot do that. You cannot do that. Kasi pag ako nalaman ko na nang-ambush ang NPA at tawagin ng NPA na kami ay human rights defenders at ang pang-ambush is our manifestation of being a human rights defenders.

So hindi ko kaya pwedeng tawagin mga mamamatay tao at mga terorista. Kalokohan yan? Kalokohan yan? So itong batas na ito should not be allowed to pass into any form of second reading.

Kumbaga why do we have to pass a law na it legalizes censorship? Akala ko ba itong mga human rights defenders na ito, they are all for the freedom of expression. Now, they do not want themselves to be criticized. Bakit? Special ba kayo? Special kayo?

I don't think you deserve immunity from criticism, lalo sa pambabatikos dahil sa mga wala sa ayos na pinaggagawa ninyo. Say for instance, magkwan kayo ng transport strike dahil human rights defenders kayo nitong karapatan ng mga driver dehumano na maapektuhan at hindi kayo pwedeng batikusin. That's stupid.

You cannot prevent us from calling you out whenever you do something wrong. It is our moral obligation, it is our right, it is our fundamental right to express ourselves and to tell you that you are wrong. So stop with itong censorship. You do not have the monopoly of public opinion.

Atty. Santos, go ahead. Atty. Santos please.

Agree ako sa sinabi ni Prosec na they are in need of opinion. Very ironic kasi di ba sila. Mahilig silang magbatikos. Mahilig silang magsabi ng kung ano-ano pero kapag sila na ang binabatikos, ayaw na ayaw nila. Gusto nila sila lang ang nagsasabi.

Pati kung babasayan natin ang provision, again wala na naman kong comprehensible standard, walang malinaw na parameter kung ano ang magka-qualify as tagging at kung ano ang sinasabi nilang unfounded and derogatory labeling.

Tapat ako na penalty dito, ang section 48, penalty of prison mayor in its minimum period. Ang prison mayor ko and I'm sure si Prosec, master na master ito. Six years. Meron pa pong option na mag-impose ng fine na P100,000. So talagang katatawanan talaga itong provision na ito.

Basically they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. Katulad sila sabi ni Prosec, they are trying to champion as human rights advocate yet suppressive sila sa freedom of thought and expression.

In the legal system, it is presumed unconstitutional. Kasi nilimitahan niya ang isang fundamental right ng ating mamamayan.

There is no danger to life, liberty and security when you're identified as a member of the CPP, NPA and the F. So tinatamaan nila ang ruling ng Supreme Court mismo.

Ito ang criminal. Mas mataas ang proof recorded ito. Proof beyond reasonable doubt. So I don't think ito ay nasa tamang kaisipan pa na ilalagay ito.

Ito lang pumasas as substantial evidence na parang level 2 to maximum level of proof beyond reasonable doubt. Yan po ang…

Kita naman natin ang kanilang reaction ay talaga namang nanggagalaite. Tama nga terminal na ginamit ng Sir Joss also. Sa akin ka Ericka, Ma'am Lorraine at sa ating mga attorneys, nakikita po natin ito na parang pinalawig ang jurisdiction ng UP Security Bill.

Parang UP DND Accord.

Yes. Kumbaga, yun lang. UP DND Accord. Yan siya ang suwari nila. Gumagalaw lang sa UP. Pero ito ay pinalawak. Parang mas pinalakas pa. Ano pong masasabi nyo sa ganitong klaseng pagpapalawig yung comparison nila?

Brother Franco, singit lang ko ng 1 minute.

Eh kasi dati binagtalunan natin ito ka Erick, yung nangyari dito na talaga namang magiging kuta ng mga dorogista ang UP, gano'n katindi ang posibleng mangyari.

Singit lang ko Brother Franco, Ma'am Lorraine. Sa pagkat magkasabay ito ng mga measures, Atty. Joss, Atty. Santos and Atty. Enprose Gonzalez, na technical sila at na-plaktada itong UP Security Bill.

Nagagawin sa nilang sangtuwari ang buong UP campuses nationwide para hindi sila magalaw ng law enforcement without prior notice and approval ng UP authorities. At para nag-create sila ng extra republic of the University of the Philippines.

Ito ngayon, ginawa nilang extra powerful ang kanilang batas so that maikutan nila ang mga batas na pwedeng lumpuin sila. Ang tinutukoy naming pronoun na sila ang CPP-NPA-NDF.

Doon sa tanong ni Brother Franco, mauna naman si Atty. Sirio, common question namin ni Brother Franco, papaano po ninyo tinitingnan na technically ito ay pag-ikot sa napakaraming batas, Constitution lalo na, at upang maging protected ang urban operations and even ang underground operations nila na konektado sa armado para hindi po magamit ang mga batas na ito for decisive law enforcement and legal actions para pusugpuin itong salo ng UP.

Ito ang pinagulot na dulot ng communist terrorism na siyang pinapangalagaan ngayon nitong kanilang maniobra na batas sa Kongreso.

And one other thing, Paki, I want a comment on that. Sections 25 and 26, the obligation to facilitate the activities and work of human rights defenders states that public authorities shall permit and facilitate access to places where persons are deprived of liberty and permit and facilitate access to places and information required by human rights defenders and exercise their rights.

Atty. Sirio, and then that will be the final round para sa inyo. Atty. Santos, go ahead Atty. Sirio.

SB, ang nakikita natin dito ay pattern or modus operandi ng CTGs. They are trying to craft exceptionalism idea or norm sa ating sistema.

So may exception pagdating sa UP. And since nabuwag yan, ang DND and binubuwag ang UP-DILG Accord nang may lipat ang constabulary or PNP sa DILG, inuunahan nila na may isang batas ito para yan din kung anong hindi nila makuha directly iniikuta nila.

So yan ang sinasabi natin na in-enact natin yan precisely to respond to international treaty. Kung ahayaan natin itong bill na maging batas, in effect, we are reneging from our international commitment.

And with respect to, ano po ba yan Usec in last?

I'm sorry, the freezing of their assets.

Freezing of their assets, hindi pwedeng gawin. Basta declared human rights defenders, bawal na tayo makialam sa kanilang mga funds.

And also that the government, you have to permit and facilitate access to places where persons are deprived of liberty and permit and facilitate access to places and information

required by human rights, kung anong kailangan nila the government has to give it in other words?

Yes po. That is parang makikialam nila on matters under investigation. Alam mo naman kalaban mo, baala naman bigyan mo siya ng information na laban sa kanya which is under investigation.

So napakahusay kung itong mangyayari, parang gusto mong kasali ka sa game, game master ka pa.

Ikaw ang gumawa ng rules, ikaw din ang magpagpaglaban.

Yan po yung parang nangyayari dito.

Atty. Santos sir, hindi pwedeng investigahan ang kanilang financial transactions. Bigyan mo sila ng access na dapat butasin ang lahat ng information natin

at hindi pwede silang galawin sa kanilang mga ginagawang activities once they are declared.

Dok Lorraine pati Sir Franco, nasabi nga sa opening natin kanina, the way we worded our position paper, our press statement, itong batas,

paano kalang batas na ito, grave, vicious and insidious. Kasi kung titignan natin ang provisions nito, naga-act po siya as shield, parang kalasag para maprotektahan ang mga CTG and at the same time weapon nila ito.

Ipo-point out ko lang yan sa sanctuary. Ang sinabi doon pwede maging sanctuary place, building or area. Mapapatanong tayo ganoon ba pwede maging kalaki itong mga sanctuary na ito?

Baka ang isang mangyayari yan, isang barangay ma-declare na sanctuary, isang mountain area going sanctuary. Wala talagang mga parameters. Yung sa na-mention ni Ma'am Lorraine, yung freezing of accounts, alam naman natin na marami sa mga gurubong ito kahit tinatawag nila ng legal fronts, may coordination sa foreign non-government organization.

Kapag na-declare ito na accounts ng human rights defenders, mas mali-lessen ang power ng AMLC to reach the accounts. Finally dito sa obligation to facilitate activities and work of human rights defenders, pati even sa access to materials, nakakatawa kasi ginagawa pa nilang state-sponsored using funds,

... And finally gusto ko rin i-point out again, nasabi natin binibigyan itong bill na preferential treatment ang human rights defenders. Pero ang kailangan din natin i-point out dito, kawawa ang law enforcers natin dito, kawawa ang ating kapulisan, ating kasundaluhan.

... Penalty for violations of sections 5-6. Tignan niyo ito, ang binibigay na penalty, prisyon mayor to reclusion temporal, without the privilege of parole. Parang ngayon nakikala nila silang gobyerno. Explicitly sinabi without the privilege of parole and sinabi pa dito shall be imposed upon any government personnel or the whole complement of a government unit."

... The paramilitary personnel or the whole complement of the paramilitary unit, the government asset who violates any of the rights of the human rights defenders. So isa po siyang shield, kalasag para maprotektahan ng mga CTG at para ma-weaponize nila ang mga available state resources and at the same time dehado o kawawahu dito ang ating gobyerno."

... What do you think? Because from where I sit, it's just too ridiculous, sobrang nakakatawa. This is something that you read and you throw in the trash can right away. But right now, I don't underestimate yung pagka-desperado nila and in fact I'm facing the Supreme Court because of something that I wrote that they really turned and twisted like that...

... So will they succeed in this? What do you think?

Eric, I would like to give five points dito sa last round natin ng discussion. To answer your question, hindi ito makakalusot because the LCC will take care of that. Sila attorney Joseph, ano yan? Kailangan mahala dyan.

Eto pa yung five points ko. Number one, ang House Bill No. 77 covers basically the remaining aspects of the CPP, NDF, NPA operations. Kung himay-himayin natin ito, this involves all their remaining operations.

Number two, this is a comprehensive protection for the CPP, NDF, NPA at the expense of the government. Number three, sa all areas ng operations nila, they are trying to get legalized exemptions so that they can continue to operate. And the exemptions are basically favoring the CPP, NDF, NPA.

Number four, we would like to tell these proponents of House Bill No. 77 and the CPP, NDF, NPA na makikinabang dito na itong ginagawa ninyo, alam na alam po ng taong bayan, alam na alam namin na ito ay maliwanag na panggagago sa gobyerno at sa sambayan ng Pilipino and we will not allow it. We will not allow it.

But you have to remember now that our laws apply to all areas in the Philippines, sa buong teritoryo ng Republika ng Pilipinas. It applies to all. It does not exempt anyone who violates our laws.

And for the CPP, NDF, NPA and your supporters, you are not safe anywhere in the Philippines. The only thing for you to do is to surrender. Yan lang yan. Huwag niyo aksayayin ang oras ng Kongreso. Huwag niyo aksayayin ang oras ng sambayan ng Pilipino.

... Ginagawa nila kay Eric ang huling ngirit nila. Nilabas na nila ang huling alas nila. At itong huling alas nila tatapan ito ng masasabi natin ng 3-4 na alas ng LCC kasi they cannot hope to have this House Bill 77 passed through the scrutiny of our law and our constitution.

Back to you Eric.

Si Brother Franco may final interaction.

Before mag-exit, I just want to take this opportunity also kasi of course we're so happy to have this team na talaga naman lumalaban. It's really for justice because I just want to get back into the days where Palparan was really how they manipulate the injustice system of our country.

How these two people, not just Palparan, but these two people who were as they said involved, but they were two innocent people who weren't there. Like how they and Edrio Olale was there. NUPA was there. De Lima was there. How they controlled the whole justice system there and it's very injustice.

Because these three persons who were there in the bars are still there. Kaya nga this is how very sad because I interviewed those two people who were innocent and they were put in bars. Ka Eric, Ma'am Lorraine and attorneys na wala silang kalam-alam, bigla silang pinatawag.

And they were, I just, the story is just like that and we're so happy that we should really raise this banner this time na hindi na ang CPP ang mamayigpat.

Pero kailangan Ma'am Lorraine, maglinawagan tayo dito. Hindi na natin ito tatawagin na Human Rights Defenders Bill, mga resource persons namin, with your respect sa inyo. Tatawagin namin itong House Bill 77 as CPP-NPA-NDA Promotion and Protection Bill.

Yan talaga yan. Sad to note na napasakay nila si Congressman Lagman, napasakay nila si Congressman Benny Abante and sana po huwag sumakay dito si Speaker Martin Rumaldes at iba pang mga well, may maayos na pag-iisip at may maayos na disposition na mga lawmakers natin.

At maganda at nagsalita na kayo mga abogado ng taong bayan at abogado para sa Republika ng Pilipinas upang hindi po masalaula ang estado at gobyerno natin dito sa pakanang ito na napakadelikado. Ma'am Lorraine.

And I also think yung sinabi ni Franco na nakakalungkot yung injustice na nangyari kay General Palparan and yung dalawang kasama niya na inosente lang nandun. Now they're behind bars also.

But that was kasi, Franco, from my perspective, that was before the NTF-ELCAC. But things have really changed right now. And as you heard, si Prosec and our other members of the legal cluster, they are going to fight this every step of the way.

And which is why ang role natin dito, ang role ng citizenry ng mga kababayan natin ay susuportahan natin ng NTF-ELCAC every step of the way.

Correct. Ang sa amin nalang, last and final message nyo, may ganito po kaming pagtingin. Paulit-ulit po nilang ginagawa ito, mga resource persons namin, iniikutan nilang batas, binubutas nilang batas, binabaliktad nilang batas.

It's good that we have lawyers like you na nagsasalita how to understand this kind of modus operandi of duality of tactics, pretending to be legal with underground components and pretending to be within the law but circumventing the law to their advantage to the weakness of the government against our own people and against our own state.

Ngayon ang aming panawagan sa inyo, how are you going to be on the guard of all of these money overs?

By the way, may pinahabol si Justice Angie Miranda, Doc Lorraine and Ka Eric and the team there, specifically ayaw nilang binubusisi at binubulatlat ang kanilang mga finances the way they were able to transfer illegal funds from abroad to Gabrela in their use for political and electoral operations which are prohibited by law.

Kaya ayaw nilang yan para maitago ang kanilang pangungulimbat ng pundo gamit ang batas, iniikutan nilang batas. Precisely, gusto nilang magkaroon ng layers of defense.

Ngayon bilang mga abogado na tagapagtanggol ng mamamayan against communist terrorism and all modus operandi, how are we going to guard our people in our law para po hindi ito mabaligtad at magamit against us including itong iskandaluso na CPP-NPA-NDA Promotion and Protection Bill No. 77. Go ahead, Atty. Santos.

Mixing it again. Si Justice Miranda has a pahabol na clarification and I like it so much because it's so simple but it's so clear. Sabi niya with Section 39, the CPP-NPA-NDA want to have free access to all schools to legitimize radicalization of our youth so that they will become NPAs, violent extremists.

In the guise of human rights education as promotion of human rights protection. And take note, it's DepEd and CHED. DepEd pwede grade school. Like Kara Tagawa, yung no to jeep ni FaceOut. Diyan magsisimula ang laso nila.

Go ahead Atty. Santos, Atty. Dios, and then the final message from Proseccomon, ang aming pag-ingin ng inyong message and reaction doon sa binanggit namin. Atty. Santos.

Ang una kong gusto i-emphasize dito, mahina na ang mga kalaban natin. Kaya itong House Bill na ito, yung CTG Promotion and Defenders Bill, last attempt na nila ito para makapag-recoup,

at least para mabigyan sila ng time, para siguro ma-consolidate pa yung mga natitira nilang mga kwersa. At syempre, kinacredit natin dito sa big part ng maayos na situation natin ngayon, yung mga gains ng NTFL.

Of course, we continue to recognize Dr. Lorraine and Ka Eric as good friends of the NTFL. Si Dr. Lorraine nga ang queen of ELCAC.

The post. Si Justice na.

At sa pamamagitan ng pagkalampag natin sa malakas natin na boses, ang next na dyan ay makalampag din ang mga district representatives natin sa Kongreso, House of Representatives, na ibasura na itong bill na ito at plain sight.

At sa pamamagitan ng sumuporta at magtiwala sa whole of the nation and whole of the government approach na ini-instill at ine-exercise ng NTFL, kami sa ELCAC, under very capable, competent leadership ng ating pinakamamahal na ELCAC chair, si Justice Angelita Villanueva Miranda,

at ang congressman, yung mga nasa posit... talagang maano na ang panukalang batas na ito, ma-junk at plain sight."

... against radical communist terrorist agenda and infiltration of the labor sector. Same content, same design pero naka-specify sa labor sector. Pag-usapan natin yan next. Naka-pending din ito na maniobra nila."

At Atty. Sirio, your reaction and final message sa aming binanggit na palagi nila tayong iniikutan sa batas pero this time nabulagta sila dito at kaharap na nila ang mga magigiting panindigan ng ating abugado ng bansa.

... Para mas maikli. Of course, pasalamat tayo aside from the LCC chair, kay Justice Karen Aeong, my boss, also the vice chair of the Legal Cooperation Cluster.

... Sa tingin ko ay hindi. Pero hindi naman natin encroaching on the legislative branch kasi nasa executive tayo. Pero ang manner ng pagpasa ng batas sa legislature, I think naga-adopt sila ng basic parliamentary procedure.

Dito sa basic parliamentary procedure, ang nakikita ko dito ay double majority. First majority, kailangan may quorum, 320.

So para magkaroon ng legal transaction ng kongreso, kailangan magkaroon ng quorum or members of congress. So 320 divided by 2 plus 1 is?

163 para maipasa ang isang batas. So yan ang minimum. So ano ang, hindi naman natin tinuturuan kundi ano ang academic purpose only, kung hindi a-attend, kung konti a-attend ng mga kongresista natin...

... nakuha lang ang bare majority na 160 plus, konti rin ang numero na kailangan para maipasa ito. So 160 divided by 2 plus 1 is 80.

Sabihin pa natin may 90 sila. So kung may 90 sila na bobotos pabor sa bill na yan at konti ang a-attend ng mga kongresista sa saplinaryo, maipapasa yan kung may 90 sila.

So may majority tayo, may quorum. Kailangan para maipasa ang batas ay majority noong nag-attend. So 300 divided by 2 plus 1 is 151 I think. So ang 90, hindi sapat para maipasa ang batas.

So hindi naman natin tinuturuan again, we're not encroaching since we're in the executive. Ang panawagan natin sana umattend ang mga kongresista natin pag-i-present sa plenaryo at pwede rin mag-abstain kapag nagbutuhan na.

Ito ang ma-expect natin pag nangyari yan, this bill dies a natural death under sa plenary. Yan po ang aking piece. Thank you very much for having us here today. Thank you sa aking boss Justice Karen Ayong for allowing me to participate in this forum.

I'll just say thank you to them.

I see Prosec pa ma'am.

I see Prosec pa pala. Prosec.

Prosec your final message for this discussion.

Ayos ka Eric. We would like to express gratitude to the NTF-LCOC Secretariat headed by Executive Director Jun Torres and of course our NSA Sec Año for supporting our legal cooperation cluster in this historical move to refute the House Bill No. 77.

And of course Justice Angie Miranda and her team sa kanilang dedication dito sa pagharap sa mga usaping legal.

We would like to reiterate that the position of the legal cooperation cluster and the NTF-LCOC is also the position of the Filipino people.

Correct.

We must be vigilant. We must continue to make our people aware of the real nature of House Bill 77 and we would like to make this call to our lawmakers.

Ito pa ipanawagan sa ating mga kongresista at mga senador to be accountable to the Filipino people.

Pagtanggol po natin ang ating kalayaan, ang ating karapatan.

Huwag po nating hayaan na magamit ang ating mga legal na proseso ng CPP and PNDF para po alang-alang sa taong bayan. Maraming salamat po.

Ayun. Ma'am Lorraine, your final.

Wala. If it's not yet apparent sa ating mga kababayan, may kita niyo naman yung the heart and soul of the legal cluster of the NTF-LCOC and the NTF-LCOC itself.

So, we are in good hands and it's what I've always known na towards the end of this battle, it will be the legal cluster that will really be hurting the CPP.

The fatal blows will be by the legal cluster. So, we would like to thank you and we would like to thank Justice Miranda, Justice Karen Ong, and the entire NTF-LCOC and the legal cluster and everybody.

Secretary Ano, most of all. So, maraming-maraming salamat.

Yes, Brother Franco.

At dahil diyan kaya pinapasalamatan natin muli ang ating mga tagapagtaguyod ng totoong justisya ng ating bayan na sa matagal na panahon.

The legal eagles.

The legal eagles ng ating bansa. Muli maraming salamat po sa ating mga attorney na talaga namang patuloy na itinataguyod ang totoong karapatang pantao.

May katapat na sila, Edrie Olalia, at ang kanilang grupo na mga National Union of Patacas Lawyers.

Muli, maraming salamat po sa oras na binahagi nyo po sa programang Laban Kasamang Ba.

Mag-ingat po kayo and all the best in everything that you do for our people.

At dahil diyan kaya Eric, Ma'am Lorraine, napaka-overtime tayo.

At muli, nagpapasalamat tayo sa ating ma'am.

May last message pa ba? Pwede pa ba?

Gusto ko lang pakikita sa ating mga kababayan.

Ganito ang nangyayari pag mayroon tayong salot sa loob ng Kongreso.

Kasi kung walang sila sa Kongreso, para nalang sila si Nery Colmenares na de Kiao-Kiao na lang sa Carriedo may hawak na placard na dilima na lang sila.

Pero dahil nandyan pa sila sa Kongreso, ganito yung nagagawa nilang skandalo sa Pilipinas.

So tayo ay kailangan magtulungan.

By 2025 wala na yung mga yan sa Kongreso.

Kung sino man yung mga kaibigan nila dyan, yung mga kaalyado nila, huwag nyo na rin iboto yan.

Yung mga yan, pati sa Senado, huwag nyo na iboto.

On my part, nananawagan tayo kay Speaker Martin Romualdez na huwag nang ipalabas ito sa Kongreso, itapon ito sa basurahan.

Isang kahihiyan.

At kahihiyan po ito kapag nakalusot ito sa plenaryo.

Nananawagan tayo kay Congressman Benny Avante at kay Congressman Edsel Agman na i-review po ninyo ang inyong posisyon.

Unwittingly, nasasakyan po kayo at nagagamit ng CPP-NPA-NDF bilang kanilang kabayo sa kanilang maniobra para hindi makita ang kanilang mabalahibong kamay ng pagsira sa batas at justisya at pamamaraan ng ating paglaban para tapusin ang CPP-NPA-NDF.

In the first place, hindi nila kinikilala ang CPP-NPA-NDF as human rights violators and human rights abusers.

Para sa kanila ito ay mga revolutionary organization daw na dapat sinusuportahan.

So hindi po ito target para panagutin ang libo-libong pinatay ng CPP-NPA-NDF.

Target po nito para lumpuin at paralisahin ang kapabilidad ng gobyerno sa batas upang sila habulin at lumpuin ang buong makinarya ng gobyerno sa legal na pamamaraan upang i-address ang kanilang urban infiltration at iba't ibang pamamaraan sa pagsira.

Huwag po tayong lumusot yan.

One question for Eric. Could I please, just a little question. This is so ridiculous, Eric. It's so ridiculous. Do they honestly think makakalusot ito?

No. Ang purpose nito ay propaganda. Ang purpose nito ay mapag-usapan. Ang purpose nito ay pang-bubulabog.

Ang purpose nito ay guluhin ang proseso ng ating paggawa ng batas at sila ay maging nasa centro ng public discussion as if may kabuluhan ang kanilang mga ginagawa.

That's the purpose of it para masabi na sila ay nagtatanggol ng isang marangal na agenda na sa layunin na man totoo lang ay para sirain ang ating demokrasya at kapayapaan.

To hide about that, they are using propaganda approach from the platform of the Congress. That's the purpose.

So they have not accepted that the Filipino people ay mulat na at kilala na kung sino sila?

Yan ang lasong ng pagiging sarado ang pag-iisip dahil na nakikita nila sila lang ang tama at sila lang ang marangal sa bayang ito.

Okay.

Yan ang lasong nila.

Eric, hukas na natin pagpatuloy ang iba pang talakayan.

Thank you, Pastor.

Pinapasalamatan na rin natin ang ating taga-subaybay at patuloy pong supportahan ng laban kasama ang bayan.

At si Director Peter Serrano ay nanonood ng live sa atin.

Ready, ready na sila. Puntahan ng manood.

Manood ng isang pelikulang panunoo rin ng taong bayan.

Martyr.

Martyr or murderer na ibinalita natin dito as part ng pagrectify ng kasaysayan natin.

At yan po ang aking talakayan natin sa araw na ito.

Sa susunod na mga araw pumuli, magkita-kita tayo at muning pag-usapan ang mamahalagang isyo dito sa ating bansa.

Maraming salamat po sa ating pinakamamahal, kagalang-galang at butihing pastor,

Pastor Apollo Siquiboloy dahil katawa ang katulong tayo sa kanya ministry sa paglalahad ng mga katotohanan sa ating bayan.

Samuli ako po si Franco Baranda.

Ako naman si Jeffrey Brother Eric Celis.

At ako si Lorraine Badoy.

At ito ang Laban Kasama Ang Bayan.

Thank you.

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