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Ladies and gentlemen, okay, pakikilala natin sila isa-isa.
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Ladies and gentlemen, big round of applause, the G-Works.
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Okay, itong tour na to, simulan natin.
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You guys are on tour.
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First tour niyo to eh.
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Who wants to answer that?
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Bakit ngayon lang?
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It's really my fault because I'm—
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Lapit mo yung mic, ganun mo talaga sa'yo.
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I work at Showtime, diba?
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So it's been on for 13 years already.
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Tapos, I can't be absent for very long, diba?
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Hindi, naka-shut it down.
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So, kasi hindi pwede.
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Every day yun, eh, diba?
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So pag umabsent ka ng one month, hindi pwede.
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Baka hindi ka na pwede bumalik pagkatapos ng one month.
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Unang-una, ba't mo tinanggap?
02:24.3
Ba't mo tinanggap yung—
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Actually, sige, maganda tanong yun.
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kaming dalawa ni Kel,
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sali kami ng saligin ng game ka na ba?
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Game na, ayan, diba?
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Tapos siya, laging nananalo.
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Kasi matalino siya, eh.
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Ako, lagi ako natatalo.
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Ano lang, racket lang, ha?
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Kasi pag sumali ka doon, mayroon ka namang parang may tiyeto.
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At saka before, kasi pag yung bagong—
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game ka na or whatever na bagong show,
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diba usually yung unang run mga celebrity contestant?
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Para madry run, para mapakilala.
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Yung mga ganon, diba?
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So yung mga celebrity, mga banda,
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kami yung kinukuha ng contestant.
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Kung baga, pang test, diba?
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So lagi kami nakukuha.
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Nanalo ko may isang beses doon.
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Nanalo ka, nanalo ka.
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At that time, parang mga 200,000.
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Tapos may ano pa, parang suwerte ako,
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parang everyday may parang bonus.
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Pag umapit ko sa finals, may showcase ka na nanalo.
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You got to win a showcase, may chance ka.
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Kung nasagot mo yung final.
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Nanalo ako ng isang buong desktop.
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Ano pa dati yung— hindi pa iPad, eh.
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Ano tawag doon ba siya yung mga MP3 player?
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Oo, yung mga MP3 player.
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Oo, yung mga ganon.
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Tapos may speakers pa.
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Suwerte lang na nasasabi.
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Parang Monday to Friday ako nanalo.
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So anyway, lagi siyang panalo.
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Ako lagi akong talo.
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Ang malas mo pag panalo ka lagi,
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you can't be invited there for the next six months.
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Pero pag talo ka, kahit next week pwede kang mag-guest ulit.
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Tapos may TF ka pa rin.
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Siyempre, may TF ka pa rin.
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So style lang pala.
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Pwede ka manalo, pwede ka matalo.
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Kaya ka nang patalo ko, eh.
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So anyway, dahil doon, nakilala ko yung mga staff
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Yung mga staff na nag-run ng game unit ng ABS-CBN.
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And when they were conceptualizing
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Ah, hindi. Showtime pa lang pala noon.
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Isa ako sa top five choices nila to be there.
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So when you got the offer,
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what was going through your head?
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It was easy, you know, kasi because...
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Did you consider your bandmates?
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The first concept of showtime was,
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it was to be taped.
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And every Saturday lang yung palabas.
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We will tape during the weekday.
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And then every Saturday lang.
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And then, 13 episodes lang.
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Yun yung sabi sa akin.
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Tsaka sabi sa akin,
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Nandun si Ann Curtis ba?
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Eh syempre noon, parang ngayon.
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Baka magkaroon ng wardrobe malfunction.
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Annie, hindi ako yun sa'yo na.
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Hindi naman niya ako kilala, eh.
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Sinabi niya yun, ha?
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Sabi niya, hindi ko siya kilala.
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Siguro dati na siya ngayon, eh.
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Hindi na pwede mo ito.
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Hindi na natin pwede palabas kay Annie tong ano na to.
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Hindi na, hindi na.
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Sorry, we're sorry.
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Sorry. Let's continue.
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Hindi ko nagsimula noon na.
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Parang pilot episode.
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Tapos, nung napanood ng management ng ABS-CBN,
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They loved everything about it.
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And then they wanted it to be a daily show.
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Para, sobrang hirap noon.
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Nung panahon na yun, gumigising kami.
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Gumigising kami after lunch.
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Kasi after gig, diba?
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Yung palang ang ano natin, eh.
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So, we get home, 4 a.m., whatever.
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That was pre-pandemic.
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Kasi akala ko, 13 episodes lang.
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And then, nung sumahalang na,
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parang biglang, oh, daily na kayo, ha?
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Tapos, ano, live, ha?
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Tapos, morning show.
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Eh, masaya naman.
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I mean, maganda yung dynamic
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Hindi naman ako tatagal noon ng 13 years
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hindi maganda yung dynamic, diba?
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So, masaya. Parang ganito lang din.
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Masaya din. So, hindi siya parang
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Was this an elephant in the room?
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Among the 4 of you or the 5 of you?
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Who brought it up? Who said,
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there's a freaking elephant in the room?
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Actually, I remember si Corwin pa yung manager natin.
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Nag-meeting tayo about it, eh.
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The apprehension was,
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kung ano yung ginagawa namin as a band.
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if you think about it,
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it was an opportunity for Juggs
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kasi siya yung frontman, eh.
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So, nalala ko before,
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yung nga't nutulak siya ni Corwin, yung manager namin.
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O, kulin mo yan, kasi
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long term na kita niyo yung benefit na
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mas madadala niya yung
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banda at saka yung crowd.
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Mas mahahasa siya.
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And handling a crowd.
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And hindi naman natin akalain na mag-aabot
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ng 13 years yun, eh.
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Iisip natin parang, okay,
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isakay natin while it lasts, diba?
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Kasi, what do we have to lose?
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kasi, at first, we made
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an album called Noontime Show, eh.
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May hindi niyo alam na magno-noontime show ka?
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So, yung mga panahon na yun, yun yung mga
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hurts, hindi naman hurts, paano ba?
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Mas maganda kung ikaw magkwento, eh.
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Parang yun yung, ano,
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parang yung first album kasi namin,
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di masyadong take off.
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Tapos, ano, so, pero na-experience namin
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yung mga mag-promote sa Noontime Show,
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radio tour, and nakita namin yung
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sa entertainment industry.
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nilabas namin dun sa Noontime Show
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na nanaramdaman namin. Mga gripes.
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Mga gripes namin about
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you know, the local
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Like what? Like what?
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Like Noontime Shows.
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Di ba yung pinakaayaw natin yung
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papasalagay ka sa Noontime Show, tas may
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kailangan, may part nung
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host na kailangan kumanta siya.
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Challenge siya sa inyo.
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Okay lang yun. Kung
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Oo. Kasi merong sinalang
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sa amin, hindi magaling e. Tsaka hindi
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nagpractice e. Wala na siya sa showbiz
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ngayon. Oh my God, talaga?
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I'm sure naranasan
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niyo rin yan. Naranasan namin.
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Di ba, may papakantayin sa inyo.
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Yung part na gusto mo pangkantayin,
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yun ay ipakakantayin.
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Tapos, sumalang sa amin,
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Pag-uusapan natin yung ano, mga...
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Alam niya, joke siya.
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kayo yata marami kaya elephant
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in the room e. Dahil, years
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later, ito naman si Chino.
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Personal life, biglang
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fasaden, meron ka na naman
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fork in the road, life change.
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Did you tell them
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before actually processing
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Canada papers? I did.
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What was going through your head
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before talking to them about it?
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Nagpunta ka sa Mega Mall, nakita mo
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Immigration, come to
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America, come to Canada.
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yung Canada was always in the cards.
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And we always knew.
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family has always been there.
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So, nauna yung brother niya, way back
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in 2007. And then,
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actually, nung nag-undoy,
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sabi namin, let's try
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to apply sa Canada. But we were denied.
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So, that was 2009-2010.
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Not meant to be muna.
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Hindi pa muna. And then,
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sabi namin yung wife ko,
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when the pandemic eased up, sige, can we try na?
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Kasi, by then, siya na lang yung
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naiwan sa Manila. So, all her
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brothers and her parents have
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been there na since 2016.
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Kasi ikaw lang gukulitin ang asawa mo eh.
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in-laws, okay lang kayo pupunta
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dito. Kasi may miss yung mga apo.
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How many kids do you have?
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I have two kids. Boy 14,
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yun, so we tried,
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we made the go for it yung end of
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2021. And then, ang bilis
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ng pangayari, nag-apply siya sa school.
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And then, we processed our papers in June.
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We were approved in August of
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2022. And then, we left in September.
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When you were approved in August, how did you tell the boys?
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No, I, December 2021
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pa lang, I told them na, hey, nag-apply
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sa school dun. Pag natanggap siya,
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ganun, mabilis na lang yun. Pero kayo, did you
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take it with a grain of salt dahil nag-deny na the first time?
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Well, actually, ako din.
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Yung expectation ko was, okay, baka
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long the papers take to process,
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baka 2023 na akong makarating.
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So, sabi ko, ako baka 2023
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next year. Kaya lang,
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na-approve na kami, 2022.
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Ano feeling mo nung na-approve?
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Were there mixed emotions?
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these guys are my brothers. I mean, they're my
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family also already. And,
12:45.4
yung something like this.
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You built, I helped build
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this thing. From the ground up.
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25, 26, 27 years.
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loyalty still lies with
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blood, with family.
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And, it's really for
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my wife and kids na we made
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the move. And, yun nga, I'm thankful
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na nakarating kami
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dun sa U.S. thanks to
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sila Albert and all his friends.
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And you, in Paco's place.
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So, nakasama ko. Sabi ko, sige, if you
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come to the U.S.,
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sige, sasama ko. And, yun nga,
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yung pinagdaanan ko
13:23.4
para makuha yung visa, like,
13:27.4
interviews sa Vancouver.
13:33.4
I took a 5-hour flight
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and then paglapag ko sa Toronto,
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snow was flying sideways.
13:39.4
Seryoso, covered with snow yung buong Toronto.
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Yun. So, dun ako nag-interview.
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And then, yun na.
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Di na naika pa nga. No!
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Hindi, hindi, hindi.
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Okay. So, dalawa.
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Now, ikaw. And then, I'll get back
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So, you have a nice voice
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naging busy si, na intriga
14:09.4
bigla, yun. Naging busy si Juggs.
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Hindi niyo ba naisip na, o sige,
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mag-show tayo nang wala siya?
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Nag-show sila nung,
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ano, nag-COVID ba ako?
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Hindi ba siya nag-asakit?
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Ano, matay mami ko.
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Namatay mami ko. On that day.
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Oo nga. Tapos may gig kami
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naka-scan. Nakasalang na.
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So, dun lang kami nag-show na wala siya.
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Pero, hindi kami mag-show
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talaga na kung wala siya.
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Sino ang talagang
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sa kanilang lahat?
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Si, ano, si Jugg. Kasi,
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siya yung roommate ko lagi.
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nagkakuntuhan ng kung ano, ano.
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Okay. So, simulan natin doon, ha?
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What was the dream? Hindi, ito na yung origin, di ba?
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What was the dream? Nung wala pang banda
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What was the dream like to form this group?
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Actually, may magandang
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nasa college kami, nagbuo na kami.
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Actually, una na buo, kami tatlo lang.
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Right. Tapos may, una kami
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tatlo, tapos... Tsaka hindi kami banda.
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Matambay lang tayo together. Oo.
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Parang nagkataon lang, pero, oh. Parang... Anong year to?
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First year. First year, 96,
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97. Oh, so golden
15:27.4
age talaga ng, ano, ng
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mga banda. Tapos si Jazz,
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kaklase ni Juggs. Okay. Pero ako
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ibang... Anong school to? Ateneo.
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I mean, nobody's perfect. That's okay.
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Patro, pang yael pala to.
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Yael, baka kawangan mga school.
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Ouch, ouch, ouch.
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may banda si Jazz nung high school siya.
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Nagka-album rin sila under, under
15:57.4
RJ, di ba? Under RJ. Quantum Records.
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Quantum, kasi because of ano. Oo.
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So, tapos ano siya. Keyboardista
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talaga si Jazz. Tapos yung New Wave,
16:05.4
yung tungtugan nila. So, nung,
16:07.4
ano, nung nakilala ni Juggs, parang
16:09.4
parang ba siya napunta sa drums?
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Parang, sige, mag-drums ka. Marunong kami ng kawanting
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drums, di ba? Parang... Hindi, nalala ko. Magaling
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siya mag-drums. Sobra. Hindi rin yung first instrument
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niya. Wow. Oo. Nung una,
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sabi niya, ano, pwede rin ako mag-drums
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ha, sabi niya sa akin.
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Sabi ko, sige, sabi ko kay Kelvin,
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kuya, ano, try natin ha. Sige, sige,
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subukan natin, sabi ko. Subukan natin, kung pangit,
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pag-keyboard siya lang natin.
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Halala ko, nung practice
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pa kami sa Katipunan, sa ano, Power Chords.
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Power Chords Studio sa Katipunan.
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Tapos, sabi niya, kami naman,
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magkakakilala kami
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since high school, e. So, sabi niya,
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sige, subukan natin. Eh, what's
16:47.4
the worst that could happen kung di magaling mag-drums?
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Keyboard, half-time drummer. Eh,
16:51.4
magaling. Magaling.
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Magaling. Sticky siya mag-drums.
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Ayun, malagkit. Maganda yan.
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Magandang ano yan. O.
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So, tapos, ikaw na nag-drums. O.
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Tapos, sabi pa niya sa akin,
17:03.4
o, ano ha, temporary lang itong
17:05.4
pag-drums ko ha. Keyboards talaga ako, e.
17:09.4
But in your head, yeah, right?
17:11.4
Hindi, hindi. Actually, kasi sobrang niyang galing
17:13.4
mag-keyboard. Pero hindi mo na
17:15.4
binalik sa keyboard? Hindi na.
17:17.4
Pero nag-keyboard na siya pag may mga gigs kami.
17:19.4
Prostrated drummer ko na rin.
17:21.4
Kasi pag-keyboardist ka,
17:23.4
yung banda ko dati, keyboards ako.
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Tapos, pagka mag-break time,
17:27.4
upo ako dito sa drums. And you know what, keyboards,
17:29.4
pag-drummer ka, ang minor mo,
17:31.4
keyboards. Pag-keyboards ka,
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ang minor mo talaga is percussion.
17:35.4
They go together. Dahil ang piano is both
17:37.4
melodic and percussive.
17:39.4
Pero may time kasi,
17:41.4
nung, ewan ko, early
17:43.4
90s or mid 90s or late 90s,
17:45.4
nabaduy ang keyboard, e.
17:47.4
Kinakwento ko ito kay Raymond,
17:49.4
hindi niya maintindihan, e.
17:53.4
Kasi nag-grunge. Yes, Mikey, nag-grunge.
17:55.4
Pag may keyboard ka, baduy ka,
17:57.4
diba? Yup, I agree.
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Tsaka alala ko, alala ko before,
18:01.4
nung NU Rock Awards,
18:03.4
ang nanalo lang laging
18:05.4
ng keyboardist of the year, si Arnold,
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yung sa After Image.
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Kasi yun lang yung bandang may keyboards, e.
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O, parang dalawa lang
18:15.4
sila lagi, diba? Dalawa lang silang laging
18:17.4
nasa category. So parang hindi talaga uso at that time
18:19.4
yung banda na may keyboards.
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Kaya may keyboards din sila.
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Pero hindi kami, hindi kami,
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naano kami ng NU, e.
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Hindi kami sinama ng NU.
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Kumagandang dinesignate kami sa
18:33.4
So anyway, so now,
18:35.4
buo na kayo. Papano?
18:37.4
Where did you do the first demo?
18:39.4
Saan kayo nag-recording? Anong nangyari?
18:47.4
First few songs natin
18:49.4
dun sa songwriting contest, diba?
18:53.4
O, kay Mark Lakay nga.
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Matandaan na siya, hindi na niya maalala.
18:59.4
Actually magandang exercise para maalala natin.
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So ako, guitarista pa ako
19:03.4
noon before nila. May bahista
19:09.4
pager pa lang yung meron nun.
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So ang hirap mag-communicate, diba?
19:13.4
Easy call, pocket bell.
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Hindi pa lahat ng tao may pager.
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Tapos yung bahista namin, taga Bulacan.
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And wala siyang pager?
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Wala siyang pager. So landline lang.
19:23.4
Ang hirap mag-anong. Misang di dumarating ng gig. Ang hirap, diba?
19:25.4
So, didn't work out.
19:27.4
Tapos nangyari is, nung umalis siya,
19:29.4
sabi ko, sige, ako na lang muna mag-bass.
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Tapos, para makatutugtog kami.
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So tatlo lang kami.
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For a while, tatlo lang kami. Bass, guitar, drums.
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the police lang yan.
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Kasi hanap tayong bahista kasi gusto ko talaga mag-guitara.
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Ibalik akong gitara.
19:49.4
And, turns out, nung nakilala namin si Chino,
19:51.4
parang nung nag-jam siya sa amin
19:53.4
sa isang event sa school,
19:55.4
yung nangyari muna was,
19:57.4
nilabitan ako ni CD, yung manager nila before.
20:01.4
kaya mo mag-bass?
20:03.4
This episode is brought to you by
20:05.4
Leo Bato & Associates,
20:07.4
ang realtor na patok.
20:09.4
So, bass ka nilalagas?
20:11.4
Sabi ko, hindi ako marunong mag-bass,
20:13.4
patay ka nang play guitar.
20:15.4
Tapos, nung na-meet ko sila, nalaman ko na
20:17.4
mahilig siya sa Beatles. Eh, ako, Beatles din yung
20:21.4
So, sabi ko, uy, guys, kaya ko tutugtugin yung
20:23.4
Till There Was You. Tapos,
20:25.4
nagkaroon ng gig na, ano,
20:27.4
sige, jam ako sa inyo for one song, Come Together.
20:29.4
Yun yung wala akong jam sa kanila.
20:33.4
parang naging, after that,
20:35.4
tinawag na ako for rehearsals with the
20:39.4
Nung nakita ko siya mag-guitar sa akin,
20:41.4
sige, bass na lang ako.
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hindi pa siya bumibili ng bass niya,
20:47.4
humihirap lang siya ng bass.
20:49.4
Hindi, babalik ako sa gitare.
20:51.4
Never bumili, hinihirap ko lang.
20:53.4
Eventually, binili ko rin.
20:55.4
Nung nakita siya, binili ko rin.
21:01.4
iba na sa sound gear na itim.
21:03.4
Yun yung unang bass ko, alala ko yan.
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Tapos, binili ko na eventually, kasi hirap nang hirap.
21:07.4
Wala naman akong balak mag-bass eh.
21:09.4
Bahisa talaga yung nahanap namin.
21:11.4
Pero ang galing, no?
21:13.4
How fate, F-A-T-E,
21:15.4
brings you to where you're
21:17.4
supposed to be in, no?
21:19.4
Yung tipong gano'n.
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So now, tumutugtog kayo, tumutugtog kayo.
21:25.4
How'd you get signed?
21:27.4
And the reason why I'm asking all these questions is because
21:29.4
may mga nanonood sa atin
21:31.4
na nagbabalak magbanda,
21:33.4
akala nila madali because of the DIY
21:35.4
and the Spotify's.
21:37.4
Nung panahon natin,
21:39.4
igagapang mo talagi.
21:43.4
Ang taas ng barrier to entry before.
21:45.4
Hindi ka basta-basta...
21:47.4
Unang una, dinamay niyo si Chino.
21:49.4
Pag sinabi ko dinamay, hindi pa kayo signed
21:51.4
nung dumating si Chino.
21:53.4
So this is like, let's come together,
21:55.4
no pun intended, let's come together,
21:59.4
see what will happen.
22:01.4
So doon palang may commitment na eh.
22:03.4
Sino ang driving force
22:07.4
Apat ba at the time? Wala pa si Mikey nung time na yan.
22:09.4
Sino ang driving force sa inyong
22:11.4
apat na paabuti natin
22:13.4
ito hanggang sa magka-album tayo?
22:17.4
Nung dumating ako sa kanila,
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parang wala namang gano'n sense
22:21.4
na we have to make it.
22:23.4
Parang let's just hang out.
22:25.4
O, parang gusto lang...
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I wanted to hang out with them kasi they played the same kind of
22:29.4
songs that I like. Gusto ko yung Beatles.
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So sabi ko, these are the kind
22:33.4
of guys na gusto ko
22:35.4
ka-jam palagi. Kasi I had another band
22:37.4
in high school na we did
22:39.4
intro voice covers.
22:41.4
Some mishmash nung mga top 40 and
22:43.4
OPM na covers. And then
22:45.4
for a time pinagsabay ko yung dalaw, Itchy Worms
22:47.4
at saka yung Black Rain
22:49.4
pa yung tagayang pangalan nung band.
22:51.4
So yung mga kabanda ko, sino ba yung Itchy Worms na yan?
22:53.4
Sabi ko, they're my new
22:55.4
friends. I wanna jam.
22:57.4
Kamay yung kabit?
22:59.4
Nagkasabay pa kami sa Tiyas
23:01.4
sa Katipunan. Yung friend namin
23:03.4
sa Houston, sabi niya, yun yung
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last time na nakita niya kami together
23:09.4
Tiyas sa Itchy Worms and then yung band
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ako sabay. So nag-double bill ako nung night
23:13.4
na yun. Kabanda mo yun, di ba? Yung si Bing?
23:15.4
Isa kang salawahan.
23:21.4
gusto lang namin tumugtog
23:23.4
together. Kasi masaya lang
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eh. I mean, I'm sure
23:29.4
magkasama pa kami. Pero noon
23:31.4
kasi hindi naman talaga namin
23:37.4
So walang balak at all?
23:39.4
Well, syempre may
23:41.4
dream. Lahat kami
23:43.4
parang nangangarap na
23:45.4
someday we'd make it.
23:47.4
Dinadrawing na nga natin sa logbook yung alay tsura natin
23:49.4
in 30 years. Nag-reunion na tayo.
23:53.4
scrapbook nung college.
23:55.4
May parang running joke kami before. Parang, oh,
23:57.4
ito yung logbook, ha. Mag-practice
23:59.4
ka na mag-autograph para pagsumika tayo.
24:01.4
Alam mo yung pirmong...
24:03.4
Pero joke lang yun, ha. Joke lang.
24:05.4
But you're attracting it, e, di ba?
24:07.4
Yeah. Which we didn't know
24:09.4
at that time, di ba? Meron kami
24:11.4
yung mga... Lapu-punto kami sa
24:13.4
Robinsons Galleria o sa Megaball.
24:15.4
Tapos bubuta ka sa gitna?
24:17.4
Hawakan nyo kami. Tao rin kami. Hawakan nyo kami.
24:19.4
Okay lang kami. Parang joke lang namin
24:21.4
parang balang araw.
24:23.4
Nakakaisipin nyo maya ba kami? Hindi, joke lang yun namin.
24:25.4
Ako ang ginawa ko nung gano'n din,
24:27.4
nung tayo nasikatanda do'n,
24:29.4
sa ano, sa SM City,
24:31.4
di ba, sa food court, do'n tumutugtog, di ba?
24:35.4
Sabi ng nanay ko, anong ginagawa mo d'yan?
24:37.4
Tingin-tingin ako sa'ko ilalagay yung drums,
24:39.4
ma, dahil balang araw.
24:43.4
Manifesting. Like folk arts, di ba?
24:45.4
May bisikleta do'n sa PICC.
24:47.4
Pagdating sa folk arts, itigil ako, nakaganon lang ako.
24:49.4
Balang araw, tutugtog ako d'yan.
24:53.4
Hindi ko alam kung anong nangyari, pero yeah, gano'n.
24:57.4
nung sumali ka sa kanila, Itchy Worms na?
24:59.4
Yeah, Itchy Worms na yung pangalan nila.
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So, hindi mo tinanong kung bakit?
25:03.4
Hindi ko tinanong.
25:05.4
Tinanggap ko na lang.
25:07.4
Hindi kasi sa org namin ang daming mga unusual names
25:09.4
for bands, so parang okay,
25:11.4
Itchy Worms, another one of the
25:19.4
Actually, nalaman ko na Itchy Worms
25:21.4
pangalan namin nung naghahanap ko rin
25:25.4
Kasi, naghahanap ko rin ng bahista, di ba?
25:27.4
Then nagpost sila ng flyer
25:31.4
Itchy Worms looking for bassist.
25:33.4
Ah, Itchy Worms na pangalan natin?
25:37.4
So, kanyang idea yun?
25:45.4
Kasi sa school, marami mga higad
25:49.4
Nakahawak siya ng higad sa ilalang upuan.
25:51.4
As in, napunta sa kamay niya
25:55.4
Nag-swell up siya.
25:57.4
Parang isip namin, higad.
25:59.4
E, tawag sa school namin dati,
26:03.4
mga Itchy Worms, di ba?
26:09.4
Ittyok, Itchy Worms.
26:13.4
So, yun yung tawag sa'min dati, Itchy Worms.
26:17.4
Katropino siya talaga, di ba?
26:19.4
Pero yun. So, dun namin naisip.
26:21.4
Kasi metal masyado yung higad, di ba?
26:23.4
So, I think dun nagsimula.
26:25.4
Yung natawag sa Come Together?
26:33.4
Pwede, pwede, pwede.
26:37.4
Okay, anong unang Beatles song na ginam nyo?
26:39.4
Yun, Come Together.
26:41.4
Pero, Till There Was You.
26:43.4
Nakatambay lang tayo.
26:45.4
Nagsimula ko ito before.
26:47.4
Gano'n kami, gano'n.
26:53.4
Mr. Postman, Nowhere Man.
26:57.4
Lahat yung tinutugtog namin sa DATS Entertainment.
27:01.4
Pero wala kami sa tono.
27:03.4
Pero tinutugtog nyo.
27:07.4
First professional gig, kailan?
27:11.4
Yung binayaran, ha?
27:13.4
Yung nakatikim kayo ng...
27:25.4
Battle of the Bands, yan.
27:29.4
Kasi nanalo kami.
27:31.4
You guys were invited
27:33.4
to actually perform.
27:35.4
I think, kung di yung kakamali,
27:39.4
Kaya nang parang...
27:43.4
Siya yung financial guy namin.
27:49.4
Parang binabayaran tayo.
27:51.4
Parang diploma yun.
27:55.4
Tapos may libre kang drinks and food.
27:57.4
Saan nag-start yung lalagyan mo na kaset
27:59.4
na dumalagay yung pera?
28:03.4
Meron kasi kami isang kaset tape na
28:05.4
parang chibomato na kaset tape.
28:07.4
Na nawala na yung tape.
28:09.4
So yung case nalang.
28:11.4
Tapos doon namin nalalagay yung TF namin.
28:13.4
Tapos for some reason,
28:15.4
nagbunga siya ng swerte.
28:17.4
May joke kami na pa. Uy, swerte to.
28:19.4
Tapos hanggang sinong nawala? Sobra kami nalungkot na nawala.
28:21.4
Parang walang yari na tayo nito.
28:23.4
Pero okay naman. Turned out well naman.
28:25.4
Pero maraming salamat sa chibomato.
28:27.4
Yan yung swerte namin.
28:31.4
Tapos na tayo sa first gig. Masaya kayong lahat.
28:35.4
What was the clean house moment
28:37.4
na okay, you're leaving.
28:39.4
You're not leaving them just hanging.
28:41.4
Paano yung prosesong yun?
28:43.4
And the reason why I want to tackle that is
28:45.4
because life changes
28:47.4
and nakuwento ko sa inyo kanina.
28:49.4
Especially sa inyong dalawa. Nung umalis si Ira.
28:51.4
Si Ira mismo ang kumuha
28:53.4
kay Vic Garbiok to replace.
28:55.4
Everything. Kaya ang friendship namin
28:59.4
And pag nandito si Ira sa States, he's still part of the band.
29:01.4
Diba? Parang ganon sa inyo.
29:03.4
What was the process like?
29:07.4
when we started the application process
29:09.4
sa Canada, sabi ko, oh guys,
29:11.4
sa start na namin ito. You might want to think about
29:13.4
kung sino kukunin na replacement.
29:17.4
Succession plan, oo eh. Kasi
29:19.4
pag wala na ako, you need
29:21.4
someone na pwedeng po.
29:23.4
So ang daming inisip, ang daming binato na
29:25.4
names around. Finally,
29:29.4
nag-recommend niya yung
29:31.4
isang guitarist na parang protege niya
29:33.4
si Wekel Mercado.
29:37.4
Drummer dad niya si
29:41.4
And then yun. So nagsimula na kami rehearsals
29:43.4
with him and then
29:45.4
yun na. Fortunately,
29:47.4
nag-click naman medyo.
29:55.4
in-onboard si Mikey. Parang to
29:57.4
fill out the sound
29:59.4
with vocals and keyboard
30:01.4
and acoustic guitar.
30:05.4
nasama si Mikey. Kaya nung
30:07.4
naging requirement for coming to
30:09.4
the US, isama rin si Mikey.
30:11.4
Mikey has always been our friend.
30:15.4
before we knew Chino. So rewind to
30:17.4
the first Battle of the Pants nyo.
30:19.4
Sila yung kalaban.
30:21.4
May banda rin kasi ako, Shudad.
30:25.4
Black Rain, Itchy Worms.
30:35.4
Lagi kami nagkakasabay. Shudad, Itchy Worms
30:41.4
Atineo? Alam ko na kung bakit Shudad.
30:49.4
That's what it means.
30:55.4
Tumantampay kami sa
30:57.4
amp room, sa Atineo Musicians
31:01.4
Naging barkada ako sila.
31:03.4
Napag barkada ako sila kasi
31:05.4
same love for the Beatles. Pamahal ko rin yung
31:09.4
yung Shudad, Itchy Worms at that time parang pareho
31:11.4
ng tunog. Yung pop
31:13.4
na medyo melodic.
31:15.4
So napag barkada.
31:17.4
And then until na sumikat na sila.
31:19.4
Yung Shudad hindi masyadong sumikat.
31:21.4
Sumikat sa indie.
31:23.4
Nagkaroon na ng following
31:25.4
sa indie. Pero kayo yung unang
31:31.4
Tongtoha kami naman kasi same record label kami
31:37.4
nagkaroon natin na
31:39.4
since memorado ko na yung song sila.
31:41.4
So pag absent si Kelvin,
31:43.4
baista rin kasi ako eh.
31:45.4
Ako yung automatic niya lang hukunin.
31:51.4
Basta pwede siya.
31:53.4
Pero sarap tignan diba?
31:55.4
Pag tinignan mo talaga yung concept na
31:57.4
friend of the band.
32:01.4
disregard that tip. And
32:03.4
hindi nila alam that
32:05.4
ang next in line talaga is the people around the band.
32:07.4
Yun yung maaasahan ng banda.
32:09.4
Yun yung nakikita na
32:11.4
nagsispend ng time.
32:13.4
You're investing time. You weren't making money with the band.
32:15.4
Hanging out with the band.
32:17.4
Pero yung payoff naman in the end
32:21.4
So when did it become official na sinama ka?
32:25.4
pagkaalis si Chino.
32:27.4
Ano din eh. Parang whirlwind din eh.
32:29.4
Kasi una parang, uy wala si Chino
32:31.4
sama ka naman sa next gigs.
32:35.4
Wait, what was going through your head? Yung totoo ha?
32:41.4
Pero siyempre hindi nila ino-offer na...
32:43.4
Alam mo yung pag feeling na na-friend zone ka?
32:47.4
Sobrang natural choice ni Mikey.
32:49.4
Kasi si Jazz and Mikey, they work together.
32:51.4
They do post-prod,
32:53.4
movie scoring, jingles.
32:55.4
So natural process talaga yan.
32:57.4
So ang tagal na nila magkatrabaho.
33:01.4
Gusto ko kasi these are my closest friends din.
33:05.4
very refreshing for me.
33:07.4
Kasi as a frontman of Siudad,
33:09.4
yung pressure kasi lagi na sa akin.
33:11.4
So itong masaya parang
33:13.4
susipot lang ako, tugtog lang ako.
33:15.4
Minsan, autopilot nga lang ako e.
33:17.4
Biglang I get paid.
33:21.4
Then nakasama pa ako
33:25.4
Pinilit ko pa ako isama sa US.
33:29.4
Now, having all of this
33:33.4
Sino dito ang pamilyada?
33:37.4
May esawa ko pero wala pang anak.
33:50.4
Dapat nakapunta ako sa restaurant.
33:52.4
I'm busy rin kasi right now.
33:54.4
I have a girlfriend.
33:56.4
But I'm busy right now. Parang andahan kong ginagawa
33:58.4
with the business. Tapos yung banda rin.
34:00.4
Kasi sa banda, ako rin naghahawak
34:04.4
Bookkeeping, yung mga ganoon. Pagpapasahod.
34:06.4
Parang kung ano yun, employer.
34:08.4
At yung CFO namin.
34:10.4
Parang admin work kasi.
34:12.4
Yung home office ng Itchy Worms,
34:14.4
it's on our house.
34:16.4
So parang doon namin hinahouse yung office staff namin.
34:18.4
So ako yung namamahala ng mga admin staff.
34:20.4
So parang I have so many
34:22.4
things on my plate.
34:24.4
Marami siyang hats.
34:26.4
Hindi ka nape-pressure sa kanila na silang lahat? Pamilyado na? Ikaw hindi?
34:28.4
Hindi naman. Hindi naman ako nape-pressure.
34:30.4
You think it'll be like that forever?
34:34.4
Bata pa naman to. 25 ba lang ako?
34:38.4
yung kasama natin kanina,
34:40.4
he's the keyboard player of Intro Voice.
34:42.4
Siya lang ang parang ikaw.
34:44.4
Pero kami, sagat-sagat na pressure talaga sa kanya.
34:48.4
Humirit talaga na bata pa naman ako eh.
34:50.4
Tahimik kaming lahat.
34:58.4
Like doon isang araw lang, sabi niya,
35:00.4
pag ako nagka-anak, change topic talaga namin.
35:02.4
Parang kapal ng mukha mo.
35:04.4
So now, may kanya-kanya kayong ginagawa.
35:06.4
You're in Canada.
35:08.4
You're doing post-prod.
35:10.4
You're running a business.
35:12.4
You're really a celebrity.
35:14.4
Alam mo, pag tinignan mo
35:16.4
in your solo life,
35:18.4
how relevant is the band
35:20.4
to all five of you?
35:22.4
Because at the end of the day, for me,
35:24.4
yan ang institution nyo eh.
35:26.4
That's the place you guys go home to
35:28.4
to Chino's point.
35:30.4
Pero how important is it to you guys individually?
35:32.4
Yeah, it's the priority.
35:38.4
Well, yung priority is there.
35:40.4
It's on hold until
35:42.4
I get more established.
35:44.4
Situated in Canada.
35:46.4
Sa akin naman, yeah, priority rin.
35:48.4
And suwerte rin ako sa sitwasyong ko na
35:50.4
I have a business.
35:52.4
So pwede akong magigig muna ako.
35:54.4
Pwedeng mag-ano eh.
35:56.4
So suwerte rin ako in that way kasi
35:58.4
sa Pilipinas, let's say you have an employer,
36:02.4
hindi ka basta-basta pwede umalis.
36:04.4
So suwerte rin ako, I'm very fortunate
36:06.4
I have that setup na I'm able to
36:08.4
prioritize the band and make everything
36:10.4
else revolve around it.
36:12.4
Kasi kung may gig, tigil lahat ng work.
36:14.4
Or I can work remotely, basta priority ko
36:18.4
Ako to add to that,
36:20.4
nagpapasalamat ako kasi
36:22.4
very complimentary.
36:24.4
Complimentary, no?
36:26.4
Complimentary yung day job ko dun sa banda.
36:28.4
Hindi ba complimentary?
36:38.4
Parang ceremony ba yan?
36:48.4
Nagka-compliment yung day job ko,
36:50.4
which is showtime, dun sa
36:54.4
Night job talaga.
36:56.4
Which is itchy rooms.
36:58.4
May gusto na ako i-add d'yan.
37:00.4
Actually pinag-usapan na rin namin before,
37:02.4
and we've mentioned this before.
37:04.4
Yung pag showtime ni Juggs,
37:06.4
sobrang laking tulong yan sa amin.
37:08.4
Kasi it helped us stay relevant.
37:10.4
Even during the time na
37:12.4
wala kaming hits.
37:14.4
Kasi may isang time, let's say from Beer,
37:16.4
may mga nilalabas kami pero not,
37:18.4
hindi parang yung level ng Beer.
37:20.4
Anong year ba yung Beer? 2006?
37:22.4
Tapos yung next na
37:24.4
pinaka-viral hit natin yung
37:26.4
Dina Molina yata yung next.
37:28.4
Anong year? 2006.
37:30.4
Kanta na music video!
37:32.4
So from 2006 to 2018,
37:34.4
yun yung span. Pero
37:36.4
because of showtime, naging relevant kami
37:38.4
kasi nakikita siya sa TV everyday.
37:40.4
And would you believe na may mga tao
37:44.4
showtime viewers, that don't know that
37:46.4
may banda si Juggs.
37:48.4
So pag ininvite kami sa probinsya,
37:50.4
parang, oh may banda pala si Juggs.
37:52.4
Yan pala yung banda niya, Itchy Worms.
37:54.4
So parang ang laking untapped market
37:56.4
na natapped namin because of showtime.
37:58.4
To your point, Kel,
38:00.4
yung mother-in-law ko,
38:02.4
nung sinabi ko talaga na
38:04.4
ano next project nyo,
38:06.4
kasi after Glock 9,
38:10.4
Sabi ko, ma, itchy worms.
38:12.4
Ay! Gusto ko sila!
38:16.4
Nanay levels na kami.
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Parang nakaka-enganyo para sa akin yun.
38:20.4
And the people dito sa LA,
38:22.4
magugulad kayo when we do the show,
38:24.4
they're very very receptive
38:26.4
sa inyo talaga, talagang solid.
38:28.4
Thank you, thank you mommy!
38:30.4
Okay, Mikey, ikaw.
38:32.4
From frontman, now ito ang bakay mo.
38:34.4
How relevant is it?
38:36.4
Nasa middle pa ako ng whirlwind eh.
38:38.4
So in the middle of processing pa lang ako sa anong nangyayari sa akin.
38:40.4
Pero, na-affect one talaga yung buhay ko.
38:44.4
ang ina-asawa ko, chill lang kami.
38:46.4
Ngayon, naglalabasan na kami ng calendars.
38:48.4
Hindi kita pwedeng samaan sa ganyan.
38:54.4
Sorry, sorry Marian.
38:58.4
Pero buti na lang talaga
39:02.4
These are my closest friends.
39:04.4
So, nasama ako sa gano'ng banda.
39:06.4
Imagine mo na lang kung sinama ako sa
39:08.4
banda na hindi ko close.
39:10.4
That's gonna be a nightmare, diba?
39:14.4
Tapos kasama mo day in, day out.
39:16.4
You wanna add to that?
39:18.4
Yeah, kasi being in a band is
39:20.4
90% waiting, hanging out.
39:24.4
So you have to be a good hang.
39:26.4
You know what, Gino?
39:28.4
Nadagdagan ko lang.
39:30.4
So kanina, nakilala niyo yung bandmate ko sa playback, jukebox,
39:34.4
So si Cha, she's new to the game.
39:36.4
And ang concept niya,
39:38.4
sa lahat ng mga bago,
39:40.4
ang concept niya talaga, pag rehearsal,
39:42.4
alam mo, 9 to 11 kunyari rehearsal namin,
39:44.4
ang expectation niya pagdating ng 9,
39:48.4
Sabi ko hindi gano'n.
39:52.4
Konting tugtugan.
39:54.4
And then kwentuhan ulit.
39:56.4
This episode is brought to you by
39:58.4
Dr. Lourdes Capulong.
40:00.4
And that's it. You call it a night.
40:02.4
How true is that to Gino's point na
40:04.4
90% it's all about the hang?
40:06.4
Dahil hindi kayo sesyoniste.
40:10.4
Totoo yan kasi most of the time,
40:12.4
so magkakwentuhan talaga kayo.
40:24.4
Kala akong mababait ang siyudad.
40:28.4
Kala niya lang yan.
40:30.4
Pero to add to that, may mga
40:32.4
tesa, kahit naman nandyan kami lahat,
40:34.4
parang isang oras muna kami magkwentuhan.
40:36.4
Sige, tara na, tara na, tugtug na.
40:40.4
Hindi sya yung parang,
40:42.4
unless nasa studio ka.
40:44.4
Pero minsan kahit nasa studio kami,
40:46.4
3 hours na may bubuk, 1 hour lang talaga yung practice.
40:48.4
Yes, kaya kwentuhan yung iba tawanan.
40:50.4
Honestly, yun yun yung look forward ko.
40:52.4
Kung may practice tayo, more than the actual practice.
40:54.4
Lalo nung nabuo na namin yung studio namin sa San Juan,
40:56.4
kasi yung studio namin ngayon,
40:58.4
yung big baby sa San Juan,
41:00.4
it's in their parents' house
41:04.4
So his dad had a studio before na
41:06.4
in 2016, he came together with his brother
41:08.4
to set up our own studio.
41:10.4
Para yun na yung bahay namin.
41:12.4
So yun na, may studio na,
41:14.4
may common room na.
41:16.4
May tayo sa iyo nga, 3 hours bibuk namin
41:18.4
yung studio para mag-insayo.
41:20.4
1 hour lang yung, and then Netflix.
41:22.4
Diba? And you know, it reflects on stage.
41:26.4
Kasi may inside joke kayo na yung...
41:28.4
So kahit yung jam mismo,
41:30.4
ang dami yung kalukohan gagawin pa
41:34.4
Mga kuano-anong lyrics kakanta.
41:38.4
Tulad ng ano, tulad ng ano.
41:42.4
Something like that.
41:46.4
yung kanta na yan,
41:50.4
tinamaan ako na, especially yung
41:52.4
binasa ko yung opening credits
41:54.4
hanggang sa huli.
41:58.4
Yung song o yung video?
42:04.4
kalahan yung malalim akong
42:08.4
Ano yung unang lyrics niyan?
42:12.4
Ah, sige, sige. Malalim ako.
42:16.4
Yung unang lyrics niyan talaga.
42:18.4
Nung araw, kahit tamis
42:22.4
wala pang makdo sa burakay.
42:30.4
That was the original lyric.
42:40.4
Tumugtog kami sa burakay, walang kuryente sa burakay.
42:42.4
Generator, genset pa.
42:44.4
Okay, go. So tapos...
42:46.4
Pero nga, dalawa kami nagsulat nun.
42:48.4
Me and Wally, ako lola.
42:50.4
Siya naman yung drummer
42:52.4
ng banda ko before Itchy Worms.
42:54.4
Keyboards ako nun.
42:56.4
Kami yung songwriting partners
43:00.4
Saturday, yun yung may album under Quantum Records.
43:02.4
Tapos, parang nag-iisip kami.
43:04.4
Get together tayo. Write tayo ng songs
43:06.4
for other artists.
43:08.4
Parang gusto namin gawin yun eh.
43:10.4
So sinulat namin yung
43:12.4
one of the songs was Dina Muli.
43:20.4
Sino kumanta sa Philpop? Ikaw na.
43:22.4
Pero gusto namin talaga ibigay sa ibang artist.
43:24.4
Who did you have in mind?
43:26.4
Gusto ko, Kat Agarado.
43:31.4
Kaya ang taas nung key eh.
43:35.4
Kasi dapat pang babae.
43:39.4
gustong gusto niya yung song, tapos sabi niya
43:41.4
kayo kumanta niyan.
43:43.4
Parang, eh, diba pag sinabi mo
43:45.4
si Mr. C, yes sir.
43:49.4
Kami nag-interpret na rin.
43:51.4
So maganda yun kasi
43:55.4
dun sa songwriting contests.
43:57.4
Diba maraming yung
44:00.4
Kunwari, ano yung kay Lara Maigue?
44:02.4
Anong pangalan ng kanta na yan?
44:04.4
Basta yung si Karyl yung kumanta eh.
44:06.4
I mean, maganda yung kay Karyl.
44:08.4
Pero yung pagkakanta ni
44:14.4
kasi siya yung nagsulat eh.
44:16.4
Iba yung pag ikaw yung nagsulat
44:18.4
and ikaw yung kumanta.
44:22.4
So, paano napunta ng ending sa Itchy Worms?
44:29.4
Paano presentation nun?
44:31.4
Ikaw ang kinausap ni Mr. C.
44:33.4
So, paano mo sinabi sa kanila?
44:35.4
O, yan. Uy, tanggap yung song
44:37.4
and i-interpret natin.
44:41.4
i-interpret natin,
44:43.4
did you know na hindi ikaw ang kakantanun?
44:45.4
Oo naman, syempre.
44:47.4
Pero parang medyo half-expected
44:51.4
na kami gagawin yan.
44:53.4
Kasi yung demo palang, yung silabit namin
44:55.4
demo sa Philpop, si Chino
44:57.4
at pinawag mo ko sa demo.
44:59.4
So, parang medyo tulog Itchy Worms na siya.
45:05.4
Let's talk about someone na wala rito ngayon.
45:09.4
Hindi ko nakikita rito.
45:19.4
I used to be a, well, I still am.
45:21.4
I'm a huge fan of the
45:23.4
E-head so I used to watch them all the time
45:25.4
during high school, when I was in high school.
45:27.4
So, pupunta ako sa mga
45:31.4
Si Ellie, by the way, had good words for you guys.
45:33.4
Thank you, Sir Ellie.
45:35.4
Thank you, Ellie.
45:39.4
So, I was like 14, 15 years old.
45:45.4
Ano yung katabi ng Campo?
45:49.4
Pupunta ako dyan. Kasi medyo malapit sa bahay.
45:51.4
Mga dalawang sakay lang ng jeep.
45:55.4
usually, siya yung
45:57.4
road manager ng E-head.
46:01.4
laging nandun siya sa gate.
46:03.4
Siya yung nagbebenta ng merch.
46:05.4
Siya yung nakikipag-usap sa fans.
46:07.4
Siya yung nagbebenta ng tickets.
46:09.4
So, hindi ka pa nagbabanda?
46:13.4
Hindi pa ako nagbabanda. Kilala ko na si Julie.
46:15.4
Nagbabanda ako ng high school.
46:17.4
Pero hindi pa each year.
46:21.4
si Kerwin ba yung dumaan sa inyo?
46:23.4
O sino yung manager?
46:25.4
The first was si Ernest,
46:27.4
na wife ni Buddy Sabala.
46:29.4
So, parang siya yung isa sa mga
46:31.4
tumulong sa amin na ma-sign sa
46:33.4
Viva Records at the time.
46:37.4
And si Julie has always been
46:39.4
a good friend of ours.
46:41.4
Dahil, yun nga, mabait siya.
46:43.4
Tapos nag-aalaga siya ng mga fans
46:49.4
pinahanap mo nasa
46:51.4
harapan lang pala ng mukha mo.
46:57.4
So, how did it come to be?
47:01.4
I tapped her as our
47:03.4
road manager. Because she was the road manager
47:05.4
of the E-heads. Parang, uy,
47:07.4
parang maging legit tayo. Kunin natin si Julie
47:09.4
tear jerky on the phone. Parang,
47:11.4
respetuhin tayo ng mga tao.
47:15.4
And then, when eventually
47:19.4
from our former management,
47:23.4
Siya na. Parang siya na talaga.
47:27.4
2008, 2023 is her 15th
47:31.4
Pang long-term kami, pare.
47:33.4
Siya yung isa sa mga constants sa buhay
47:35.4
ng Itchy Worms. And sobrang kaming
47:37.4
grateful na nandiyan siya. Kasi,
47:39.4
talaga inaalagaan niya kami. May malasakit
47:41.4
talaga siya sa amin. Like ako, na-experience ko yung
47:43.4
behind the scenes ni Julie.
47:45.4
She's working on the tour. Tayo-tayo nina
47:53.4
Parang nanay, or ate
47:55.4
vibe. Iba siya sa
47:59.4
And she's very, she represents you guys
48:01.4
very well. Yung lang masasabi ko. Very well.
48:03.4
Thank you. Solid. Advice for
48:05.4
ilanding natin to. Advice for
48:09.4
The 14-year-old you.
48:13.4
dormmates or classmates.
48:15.4
The friends. The guy
48:17.4
in the other band. The frontman
48:19.4
of another band. May mga ganon
48:21.4
pa rin hanggang ngayon. Okay, I'm gonna
48:23.4
ask you to give advice to
48:27.4
who are starting on their journey.
48:29.4
Some of them will not make it.
48:31.4
Some of them will.
48:33.4
There's a bit of luck, but there's a lot
48:35.4
of preparation, e. Diba?
48:37.4
Let's start with, ikaw muna Chino.
48:43.4
Kasi ikaw galing. Kasi ikaw, sorry.
48:49.4
is not the Itchy Worms.
48:51.4
Pero doon ka nang galing.
48:53.4
But it took you to where you are now.
48:55.4
So, what advice can you give
48:57.4
the guitar players,
48:59.4
the other artists?
49:01.4
Siguro yung sakin,
49:03.4
I think similar than experience si Jazz.
49:05.4
Nagsimula ako with the
49:07.4
Red Beatles book,
49:09.4
Sitting in a Room Alone.
49:13.4
tapos na yung summer na yon,
49:15.4
friends ko sa high school,
49:17.4
uy, banda tayo. And then,
49:19.4
covers kami. Just
49:21.4
stick to your instrument,
49:23.4
hone your craft, play anything
49:27.4
And then, pag nahanap mo yung
49:29.4
people na, if you find your tribe,
49:31.4
stick to your tribe.
49:37.4
yung Red Beatles book, yun yung jingle.
49:43.4
Yon yung book na pautunod na nireprint.
49:45.4
Jonathan Buencamino may mint condition na
49:47.4
Red Beatles book na yun.
49:51.4
Manunod siya mamaya.
49:53.4
Ako siguro, ano rin, tama yung sabi mo
49:57.4
sa life, hindi mo alam na
49:59.4
you'll end up with people na nandyan
50:01.4
around you. Like sa banda,
50:03.4
yung immediate parang, oh, parang si Mikey na parang
50:05.4
kilala na yun, parang eventually siya pala.
50:07.4
So parang siguro, ano,
50:09.4
tapos yung Kaichino rin, nagsasalaga siya sa
50:11.4
ibang band na napunta sa amin. So siguro just
50:13.4
just go with the flow, tungtog ka lang. Pero
50:15.4
syempre, do what you want pa rin.
50:17.4
Eventually, aabot ka
50:19.4
at some point. Yeah, tama sabi mo, some will
50:21.4
make it, some won't.
50:23.4
Pero malaking bagay talaga yung
50:25.4
swerte. Malaking bagay yung swerte. Feeling ko,
50:27.4
totoo yan. Luck talaga.
50:29.4
Pero syempre kailangan, gawin mo rin yung hard work.
50:31.4
Pero malaking bagay yung
50:33.4
luck. Kasi ang dami na yung
50:35.4
mga things na nangyari
50:37.4
sa banda na swerte lang din.
50:39.4
Like yung showtime, swerte lang.
50:41.4
Di ba? O, parang swerte, di ba, na
50:43.4
nakuha. Because you were there. Puta kayo
50:45.4
ng punti. Tapos, di ba, nanalo
50:49.4
ni Jazzy sa mga competition. I won't say it
50:51.4
mang swerte, pero magsasabihin, could have gone
50:53.4
either way. Dami magagaling din yung mga kalaban nyo.
50:55.4
So yan, gawin nyo lang kung anong gusto nyo.
50:57.4
Tapos eventually tingin ko,
50:59.4
kung ba may parang fork ka
51:01.4
or may nagkamali ka
51:03.4
somewhere, magko-correct yan. I think
51:05.4
at some point, magko-correct yan
51:07.4
para mapunta ka sa
51:13.4
Gagawin ko kay Kel na
51:15.4
yung being at the right place
51:17.4
at the right time, malaking factor talaga yan.
51:19.4
So tulad ako, ako
51:21.4
happy na ako sa siyudad e.
51:23.4
With our following,
51:25.4
with our indie cred.
51:27.4
Tapos hindi ko akalain na biglang
51:29.4
magbabalun pa pala yan
51:31.4
to a bigger thing.
51:33.4
Yung word na yun e, hindi ko akalain e.
51:35.4
Alam mo yun? Di ba?
51:37.4
Akala ko, yun na yun e. Okay.
51:39.4
Siudad, great. And then,
51:41.4
hindi ko alam na makasama pa ako
51:43.4
with these guys, makasama pa ako sa Japan,
51:47.4
wala naman akong masyadong, hindi naman
51:51.4
my way into this. Parang
51:53.4
I was just in the right place at the right time.
51:55.4
And I was just out there.
51:57.4
And I said yes to a lot of things.
51:59.4
And I said yes to
52:01.4
things that matter.
52:03.4
I said yes to things that matter.
52:05.4
Magiging yes man ka.
52:13.4
He's right inside your hole.
52:15.4
What does that mean?
52:21.4
And be at the right place at the right time.
52:23.4
Hindi mo na-control yan.
52:27.4
At tama yung sinabi ni Mikey.
52:29.4
Well, for me, parang two things.
52:31.4
There's things you can control
52:33.4
and there's things you can't control.
52:35.4
Parang, yung things that you can't
52:37.4
control, yan yung craft mo.
52:39.4
Parang you have to keep honing your craft.
52:43.4
Keep getting better. Di ba?
52:45.4
And yung isang you can't control,
52:47.4
yung yun, yung swerte.
52:49.4
Yung opportunity. For me, I think
52:51.4
parang yung things that happen
52:53.4
at the right place at the right time.
52:57.4
para mangyari yan.
52:59.4
Hindi mo ma-control yan. Di ba?
53:01.4
Pero, when that comes,
53:03.4
you better be ready with your thing.
53:09.4
With your craft. It should be there na.
53:13.4
be ready, but you have to
53:19.4
Pag may swerte ka,
53:21.4
trabahuin mo na. Kasi di ba,
53:23.4
minsan lang mabigyan ng opportunity na gano'n.
53:27.4
original na tanong mo?
53:29.4
Bring it home. Because there are people who are
53:33.4
probably in your footsteps right now.
53:35.4
Or in the same situation
53:37.4
that you were in years ago,
53:39.4
20 years ago. Di ba?
53:41.4
We were talking about you playing
53:45.4
I volunteered to be an usher
53:47.4
there. Just to see you.
53:49.4
To see intro voice
53:51.4
and true faith at that time.
53:59.4
mag-PA sa mga banda.
54:03.4
sino mag-aakalang,
54:05.4
i-interviewin tayo ni Paco ngayon. Di ba?
54:23.4
meron akong pirman yung lahat.
54:27.4
Pero ang galing, right?
54:31.4
nakukuha ko sa inyo,
54:33.4
hindi kayo uptight eh.
54:41.4
to get your hands dirty,
54:43.4
to work, to commit,
54:47.4
and to stay consistent.
54:49.4
Yan, yan. Consistency yun.
54:51.4
Kitang-kita ko sa inyo. Like kunento nyo na
54:53.4
alas dosi kayo nagigising, but you have to do what you have to do
54:55.4
ngayon. Umaga pa lang. Nandun ka na sa studio.
55:01.4
Pero guusapan namin ni Julia, ni Albert.
55:03.4
Shoutout kay Albert Ariella ng Adobo Jam.
55:05.4
Pero guusapan, two weeks?
55:07.4
Kampot siya. Sisingit natin lahat
55:09.4
ng shows na yan ng dalawang linggo?
55:11.4
Sorry, kasalanan ko yan.
55:13.4
Nakuha pa niya ako mirit kanina.
55:15.4
Ang habang ng tour ni Ander Brad,
55:19.4
Ikaw ang Michael Lee.
55:21.4
Pwede ba mag-add?
55:23.4
Lagi ko sinasabi to
55:27.4
If you wanna be a
55:29.4
musician or whatever, if you wanna
55:33.4
you have to have multiple income
55:35.4
streams. So Kelvin has
55:37.4
multiple income streams. He has a business,
55:41.4
businesses. Diba Jazz and
55:43.4
Mikey, they have a business.
55:49.4
but people pay them
55:51.4
for that. Like for
55:53.4
commercials, for movies.
55:55.4
Chino also programs.
55:59.4
Top top top secret ba yung
56:01.4
kung sino yung kliente mo?
56:03.4
He does programming
56:13.4
Development Bank at United Nations.
56:15.4
Diba? So kunwari,
56:17.4
it doesn't have to be
56:23.4
thing. Mga maliliit, mga maraming
56:25.4
maliliit. Kunwari magpaparenta
56:27.4
ka ng bahay or magpapautang.
56:29.4
Whatever, kung ano man yung multiple
56:31.4
income streams. But you have to have
56:37.4
sa Tagalog yung income streams?
56:39.4
Pinagkakitaan. Kailangan marami
56:41.4
kang pinagkakitaan.
56:43.4
Kasi may mga buwan na hindi
56:49.4
Alam ni Pako yun. Seasonal yung
56:51.4
pagbabanda. Yung income sa pagbabanda.
56:53.4
Yung kailangan mo
56:55.4
ng something for the bills
56:57.4
and for the heart. Kailangan mo ng ganoon.
56:59.4
Something for the bills.
57:01.4
Iba talaga si Chino.
57:07.4
Mag-a-add lang ako doon. Kasi tama
57:09.4
sabi Juggs. Kailangan mo ng multiple income streams.
57:11.4
Feeling ko at parang
57:13.4
magandang tulong din yan para
57:15.4
hindi mo kailangan mag-compromise
57:17.4
ng music mo kung may iba kang
57:19.4
possible income streams. Parang kung may ayaw kang gawin, hindi mo
57:21.4
gawin. I mean, I'm not saying not to say
57:23.4
no. But when may pinapagawa siya
57:25.4
na medyo artistically
57:27.4
labag sa loob mo,
57:29.4
hindi mo kailangan gawin. Kasi thankfully
57:31.4
you have other options.
57:33.4
Actually, to add to that,
57:35.4
yung guitarist namin ngayon who replaced Chino,
57:41.4
family business na may mga
57:43.4
main salon sila. And they have multiple
57:45.4
branches. So, parang chill lang siya.
57:47.4
Parang nagsession work
57:49.4
kasi siya before. But now, when he
57:51.4
had that business na and then kinuha namin
57:53.4
siya, hindi nag-stop na siya ng session work.
57:55.4
Nagsession work siya sa ABS before.
57:57.4
So, nag-stop na siya doon kasi
57:59.4
I mean, he has other
58:01.4
income streams na rin.
58:03.4
Ay, teka. Sorry, may add lang ako doon
58:05.4
yung question mo na yung message
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Ano siya? Parang, at least sa amin,
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mas magagaling sa amin na musikero.
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Seryoso, maraming mas magagaling sa amin.
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Pero, malaking bagay rin
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actually yung being at the right place
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at the right time. And just
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yung pagpursigil lang. Kasi
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maraming mas magaling talaga sa amin.
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Seryoso, totoo yan.
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Pwede ba kong mag-add siya? Sabi sa akin ni Ogie
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Alcacid. Sabi niya, parang maraming
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Maraming mas magaling sa akin, sabi niya.
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Pero, nasa na sila ngayon.
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So, kailangan talaga maging mabait ka.
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Yun, isa. O yun. Tama.
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Good point. True. Ano, kwenta mo ka sa akin yun?
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Tsaka, add ko lang going back.
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Kasi during the pandemic,
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may lumapit sa akin na artist na
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independent. Parang, and
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mas bata siya. He's like lang sa 20.
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So, during the pandemic,
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engineer siya. And then,
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gusto niya mag-start ng music career niya.
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I met him shortly before the pandemic
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sa isang music conference ng,
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Indy Manila. So, lumapit siya.
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Sabi niya, Sir Chino,
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gusto ko kasi i-launch
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yung music career ko. Parang,
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kailangan ko ba i-give up yung job ko?
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Sabi ko, wag. Wag mo gawin yan.
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hindi pa yung sure thing for you at this time
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in your career. So, wag mo pitawan yan.
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Kayong pumagpuyat. Alam mo yun?
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You can do the work. Pero wag na wag mo
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iwanan yung day job mo. Kasi yan yung
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magiging, yan yung lifeline mo
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habang wala ka pang kinikita sa music eh.
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And, I think, yun yung
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siguro nakikita ng mga bata ngayon
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na, uy, sikat na yung Itchy Worms.
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Sikat na yung kung sino-sinong banda.
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Hindi nila alam na,
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you need, I guess,
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yung sila palagi natin pinag-uusapan, di ba?
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Every overnight success
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is at least 10 years in the making.
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Yung tipong, di ba,
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biglang, sikat si Bruno Mars, biglang.
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Pero hindi totong, ganun lang.
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Parang may 10 to 15
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years ka na build up to the biglang boom.
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Yes. Yung critical mass mo.
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Oggy Alcacid's point.
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Who is also last night like you?
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Ladies and gentlemen, the Itchy Worms!
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Don't forget to like and subscribe. We'll see you in the next episode.
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Ganda, ganda, ganda, ganda.
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Mahuhusay yung last verse.
