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Okay, and the podcast will begin in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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big round of applause at Paco's place,
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Thank you, thank you.
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Ca va? Tu parles français un petit peu?
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Un petit peu, oui.
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Je m'appelle Paco.
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Je m'appelle Julian.
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How do you say bonjour in Filipino?
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So, you're an actor.
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You're a stuntman.
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I was a stuntman.
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I made a switch from,
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actually first from dance,
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Before everything else, you were a dancer.
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I started as a breakdancer, yeah.
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Back in the day, yeah.
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Who was your favorite,
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who was your favorite B-boy artist?
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Oh my God, there's so many good dancers.
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But so many good dancers from US too.
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B-boy Machine, B-boy,
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Skin Method was such a good,
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such a good team of B-boy,
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and they're from California, actually.
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A bunch of B-boy.
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But in France as well, we have a lot of good dancers.
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What got you into breakdancing?
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The reason why I'm asking,
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when I was a kid,
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breakdancing really broke up
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there was even a movie made for breakdancing
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called Body Rock featuring Lorenzo Llamas.
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That's back in the 80s, late 80s,
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and it was really something that everybody did.
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My friends did it, not me,
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but everybody was doing the flair,
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the dolphin dive.
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What got you into it?
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I was in medium school.
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I was like 12, 11, 12 years old.
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You know, I grew up as a small guy.
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I'm from a small, really small city in the south of France.
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Hence the small guy.
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It's like 25,000 people,
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especially in France,
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when you grow up, you're a small dude.
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People pick on you.
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At the time, I was 20, 2008, 2007, 2006.
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B-boy, I studied much.
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I'm 33 right now, 20 years ago.
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2003, my bad, actually.
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It was a good way to show people,
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look, I'm different.
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Especially, I was so young.
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It was a good way for people to respect me.
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To give me some respect.
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Did you have siblings older than you?
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You have a brother or sister older than you?
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I have one sister.
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She's nine years older than me.
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So, you were pretty much an only child.
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Yes, because we had such a big gap.
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So, Julian, respect.
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you had to do breakdancing.
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To do breakdancing, you had to have guts
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because not everybody could do it.
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Now, this podcast is meant to inspire and inform people.
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There are people out there right now watching our podcast
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who feel that they can't move one step forward in life.
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You, at a young age of 12, 13,
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you figured out that you had to do something with your life
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or else you'd be bullied for the rest of your life.
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What was going through your head at 12?
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Especially, breakdance was such a different style of dancing
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and an impressive style
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because we had to do all those crazy moves.
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It was really interesting for me to start doing something really different.
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Usually, people...
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Speak closer to the mic.
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Oh, that's much better.
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I wanted to do something different
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and I really liked the acrobatic side of it.
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How about the wrist?
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Breaking your neck, breaking your arm, breaking your legs?
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Actually, I'm lucky.
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The only thing that happened to me is I broke my thumb.
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That's pretty much it.
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I was trying to do a jackhammer.
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You put all your body on your wrist.
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I have a different impression of jackhammer.
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So, it's like you twist and you jump at the same time on your hands.
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I was trying to do it on my fingers.
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And I broke my thumb.
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So, when you broke your thumb, did you say,
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okay, that's it, I'm not doing it anymore?
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No, I did more than that.
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I keep on going and going.
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Some recovery, whatever.
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And I keep on pushing.
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And I did for pretty much from 12 to 23.
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What did your mom and dad say when you were doing this?
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They were like, okay, you gotta be careful, my son.
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You gotta be careful.
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I was doing parkour for running too.
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Like when I was 16, 17.
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So, you did those backflips, the front?
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Not scared of breaking your neck?
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Because I was jumping on my neck too.
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I can show you a video.
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I used to jump on my head on concrete and freeze.
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Like you jump on my head and freeze.
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I was doing Shaolin move.
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And all of this, your motivation came from,
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I'm gonna do this because I want people to respect me.
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Because I was a small guy.
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People tried to bully you or whatever.
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That happened to me kind of at the beginning.
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Then I was so focused.
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I started to train a lot and really invest into it.
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And I started to do some crazy, crazy moves.
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And people, they...
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You were focused.
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You invested time.
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You were consistent.
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Consistent too, yes.
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Yes, discipline as well.
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And you have to believe in yourself too as well
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because such complicated moves, it takes time to develop.
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Yes, patience as well.
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Did you see that movie?
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It was an 80s, 90s movie.
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They were ice skating.
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I don't remember.
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That was a fun movie.
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It reminded me because of the patience, the dedication.
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Like you said, difficult moves, they're not easy to do, right?
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You don't get them right on the first try.
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Can you explain that?
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Yes, some movement, the technique is so complicated
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that you start step by step.
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So, there's different way to approach.
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And I think as soon as you become unconscious
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and your body too gets used to it,
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Because the pain too, it's...
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Especially B-boy movements, you know,
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you put your elbow on your abs or whatever.
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So, your body adapts
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and the technique becomes unconscious
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and the flow becomes a flow.
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Give me a complicated move
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that you had to dissect and master one step at a time.
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Like especially to continually gain momentum on...
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Yes, yes, windmill too.
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Back in the day when I...
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First, we call it the power moves.
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First power move I had was the jackhammer
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and when you jump on your hands and windmill.
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And windmill took me one year actually to get it.
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Because the technique...
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Is the windmill on your back?
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That's the one...
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Your legs are going up, right?
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Yeah, I can do that.
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I'm just kidding.
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Okay, so let's talk about the flare.
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Because that involves your back, your legs, your spine.
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Rocking back and forth on the momentum and all that stuff.
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Yeah, the steps that you need.
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So, you said for jackhammer or for the windmill?
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For the windmill.
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For the windmill, yeah.
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So, you start on your back and then you pretty much kick with your...
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You gotta find which side you're gonna go first.
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And then it's pretty much you kick with your...
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I was kicking with my left leg, left feet.
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So, you give the momentum.
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Then you half twist.
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Then you get on your back.
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Then you twist a little bit again and you get back on your body, on your hands.
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And you keep doing it and you spin.
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But the thing is to get it smooth and flowing.
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Yeah, almost flying.
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That took a year.
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It took me a year.
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I was young at the time.
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And you know, breakdancing came in the 90s with the hip-hop moves and everything.
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I was 20 in 2000.
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So, not too many people to help you.
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Now, you take class for b-boys.
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You learn fast because people, they master.
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They know exactly how to teach.
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And how to do it safely.
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So, from being b-boy, from being that, how did you transition into stunt work?
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What was the goal?
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So, now that you have respect, notoriety and all, did you think of becoming a lawyer, a banker?
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No, actually I was studying to be an aerospace engineer.
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So, born in that small city, I moved to a bigger city in the south of France.
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I studied over there for four years.
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And I had pretty much two years left to be an engineer.
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But I was training a lot as a breakdancer.
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I was doing battles.
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I was doing a dancing competition.
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And I kept training and training and training.
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And I got an opportunity to audition for a cabaret.
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French cabaret, you know the style.
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I booked the job and it was pretty much my first artistic, officially artistic job with contracts.
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How did it feel when you got it?
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But the good thing about it too is because I was so into, specifically, breakdancing.
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And when you go into cabaret, there's so many different styles of dancing.
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People sing to musicians like you.
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It opened your eyes.
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It opened my eyes.
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Breakdancing is good, but there's so much more to do.
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You gotta move on.
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Especially the stage, the theater world.
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There's so many things to do.
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I did that job for a couple of months.
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Your mom and dad, they were still around?
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I was living in a different city, but they came to see the show.
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They saw the show.
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We finished the job.
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I got a job to work.
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Airbus, the airplane company.
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They wanted me to work on the A380, the big one, to be an inspector of quality.
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So you actually did the whole aerospace thing?
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No, because I went to the interview.
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The guy called me a couple of days later and he said,
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And I'm like, well, I don't think this is what I want to do.
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And the guy got really upset.
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And I called a couple of days later because I realized I made a mistake in a way.
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My parents made me realize that I made a mistake.
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Time out, time out.
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I want to hear that.
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Your parents made you realize that you made a mistake.
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Does that mean your parents actually sat you down and said,
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look, why are you going to do aerospace when you have a good thing going in theater
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and in arts and all that stuff?
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No, I think because when you do artistic jobs,
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older generation, I think they didn't, especially coming from a small city,
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again, I'm saying that because people have a different mind.
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People have a different mindset, different mentality.
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So not they didn't want me to do it, but they wanted me to be safe.
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And what I told my dad, no, they want me for the job.
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But no, I'm not going to do it.
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So he's like, you sure, dude?
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I called back the guy and the guy said, no, dude, it's too late.
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You show me you don't want the job.
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So he gave it to someone else.
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So I'm like, okay, you have no money, dude.
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You're young, you're whatever.
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And two weeks later, I got an audition in Paris.
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And that was to work at a theme park.
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They call it the park Asterix.
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You know, Asterix and Obelix.
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It's like, you know, the characters, maybe.
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Yeah, the animation.
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And I got my first acting, comedian job.
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So how does it feel to live in a city where the population is 25,000
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and then go to the big city like Paris?
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Paris, how does it feel?
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Different mentality.
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And everything is different, you know.
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Everything is different.
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So I had to adapt every time.
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The good thing is when I studied, I went to bigger city, but it wasn't like Paris.
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It was a smaller city than Paris.
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So it prepared me for it.
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And then I went to Paris.
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And Paris is the capital.
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And I did that job for two months.
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The character, yeah.
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Two months in Paris.
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Two months in Paris.
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And I auditioned at the same time for World Tour show, you know, DreamWorks.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The studio, they did the animation movie.
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How to Train Your Dragon.
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And so I got the audition for the job.
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They were auditioning all around the world, Canada, USA, Australia.
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Wait, why were they doing this?
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They were auditioning for the movie?
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No, they wanted to do an adaptation into a live.
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Theater, like a live show.
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Like the Staples Center.
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The Crypto Center.
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So that type of show, like with like an audience of like 8,000 people.
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And I got the job.
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Who was your character?
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I played, my character was Pong.
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They created that character for me.
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It wasn't in a movie.
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But then I was an understudy for Snot Loud.
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You remember the Twins?
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And the Twins too, yeah.
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Rough Notes and Tough Notes, yeah.
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And I played those characters too.
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And I have a great story about it, by the way.
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I want to hear it.
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You want to hear it?
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So I got the job.
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I went to Australia for rehearsal.
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I wasn't speaking English.
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So prior to this, and the guy told me…
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Prior to this, you were just speaking French.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, we take English class.
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But then again…
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But it's not enough to be fluent.
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In France, even if you speak English,
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even if you understand English,
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when you see a tourist trying to speak to you guys in English,
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They don't know what's up.
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You guys just make bullshit stuff and go,
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So you went to Australia.
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So I went over there and I wasn't speaking…
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They're not going to keep me.
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There's no way I'm going to stay on that show.
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They're going to find out and they're going to kick me out.
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Because we did like four months or three or so,
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two to four months,
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and it happened that they're like,
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Oh, actually, we're going to give more character to this guy
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and more important character,
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like the twins, rough notes, tough notes.
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So we started the tour.
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We did Australia first.
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We went to New Zealand.
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Wait, how did you develop your English?
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With the cast, the people over there,
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everybody that I met over there.
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They were very supportive?
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Yes, they were very supportive.
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And I was lucky I had three friends of mine
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that was on the show as well.
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Because they speak French.
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So it helped a lot.
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Sometimes the artistic director,
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like the big people,
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they're like, Hey, Julian, blah, blah, blah.
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And I'm like, Oh, yes.
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So that's why they created…
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I don't even know what they were saying.
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So that's why they created the character Pong for you.
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That was specifically for my…
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Because I was so energetic, so hyped,
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jumping all around, acrobatics, breakdance.
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And they created that guy.
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They created a costume.
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It was like kopoke.
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So you were wearing a Viking costume.
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Dancing all over the place.
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Playing the character.
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And at some point I was doing some dancing.
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Doing some whatever,
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like different type of movement.
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Fighting dragons.
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That's what we were doing.
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You're going to Australia,
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not knowing any word.
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I mean, knowing English in your head,
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but not really applying the language.
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How did 12-year-old, 13-year-old Julian
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come back out of the closet?
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Because this is another challenge for you.
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You going to Australia is like you being 12, 13 again.
19:05.0
If you don't learn this,
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you're going to get picked on,
19:08.0
you're going to get bullied,
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probably sent home.
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So what was going through your head
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on the plane going to Australia?
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So much, so much.
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I mean, that's what I did just before I left.
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I bought a couple English books.
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So you prepared again.
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I tried to, yeah.
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I tried to, I tried to.
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And when I went over there,
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I was trying to show them too.
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I'm learning, I'm doing my best.
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I'm doing everything I can too.
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Man, and a couple months later,
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we go in New York.
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One of my friends that play one of the main,
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one of the twins, he gets sick.
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And they're like, Julian,
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you have to play this guy tonight.
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I knew nothing about the character, man.
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I learned everything.
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Two hours of show,
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two hours of show of the twins.
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And I had to play at night in New York
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in front of 8,000 people.
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Was there a teleprompter?
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This episode is brought to you by
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Leo Bato and Associates.
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Ang realtor na Bato.
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So, most of the, it's voiceover.
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We had like mic too.
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But for couple lines,
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they give me like a.
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But you had to learn the choreography of the twins.
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I had pretty much couple hours
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to learn everything and play at night
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in front of everybody.
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And indeed, I did great.
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I did great, my friend.
20:32.0
Can you attribute this
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to the discipline that you developed as a kid?
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Is that what made it?
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I see exactly what you, yes.
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And I, especially at that time,
20:45.0
I knew exactly what I wanted.
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Especially when I jumped from working in France,
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artistic in France,
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and boom, you go on a world tour show.
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You're going to travel the world.
20:54.0
And I'm like, dude, you're like,
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So lucky coming from 25,000 people city.
21:01.0
It's such a small city.
21:02.0
And everything came so fast too.
21:04.0
Because from the first job,
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from the cabaret job,
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six months later,
21:08.0
I knew I was about to tour around the world
21:10.0
for that show with DreamWorks.
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So things went kind of fast.
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Like I'm like, wow, like, wow.
21:17.0
Julian, when you say,
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this time I knew what I wanted.
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So the goal is in your head, right?
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And then you have distractions.
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probably another opportunity,
21:31.0
probably friends.
21:33.0
When you have that thing in your head
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and you're hyper-focused,
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how do you say no to other stuff?
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That's pretty complicated to say no.
21:46.0
When you know what you want.
21:50.0
Even at that time,
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I already knew I wanted to,
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even when I was a B-boy,
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I already knew I wanted to be an actor.
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I knew that's what I wanted to do.
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that I wanted to do it in the US.
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But knowing that I wasn't speaking English,
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it was kind of stupid,
22:06.0
kind of step-by-step.
22:10.0
And you gotta discipline everything we said
22:12.0
at the beginning.
22:13.0
Patience, discipline.
22:14.0
Everything, right?
22:15.0
You have to believe in yourself.
22:16.0
It's like doing the flair step-by-step.
22:19.0
Exactly, exactly, exactly.
22:21.0
The same way it takes time
22:22.0
to do just one movement,
22:24.0
the windmill, whatever it is.
22:27.0
So then challenge,
22:29.0
they become bigger and bigger.
22:31.0
You take bigger challenge.
22:35.0
Do you ever stop?
22:36.0
Wouldn't it be nice to take on a challenge,
22:39.0
overcome the challenge,
22:42.0
let me just pause.
22:43.0
But in your case,
22:45.0
I don't want to stop.
22:47.0
No, no, no, no, no.
22:54.0
I do everything I can
22:56.0
and I make it as an artist.
22:59.0
you would do side jobs.
23:02.0
airbus for the job.
23:04.0
The guy didn't want me anymore eventually.
23:07.0
But to do stuff with airplanes,
23:10.0
So that's what I would have done.
23:15.0
You wouldn't be happy doing that.
23:16.0
I knew what I wanted.
23:18.0
And I knew that I wanted to go to US too.
23:21.0
And that tour brought me to US.
23:23.0
So from Australia,
23:25.0
you're going to New York,
23:32.0
because then we played
23:33.0
in so many cities in US too.
23:35.0
Not only New York,
23:37.0
we pretty much went everywhere.
23:40.0
But you were still based in Paris?
23:43.0
We were changing city,
23:44.0
we were traveling to different city
23:46.0
and different country every week.
23:48.0
Every week going to different, yeah.
23:52.0
And playing the same show
23:54.0
Usually in one week,
23:55.0
we would play the show
23:56.0
like six to eight times.
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you're in the US.
24:04.0
Another crossroad.
24:05.0
Because remember,
24:06.0
the plan was to be in the US.
24:08.0
Not with this whole bunch of group.
24:14.0
you were with a group.
24:15.0
So now you had to make a decision.
24:20.0
and that's what happened.
24:21.0
And we were like a cast of 20 people.
24:25.0
only me and an Australian friend of mine,
24:28.0
we stayed in Los Angeles.
24:30.0
We were the only two.
24:33.0
And we had to go again
24:34.0
to get new artist visa.
24:37.0
We had an artist visa with DreamWorks,
24:38.0
but we could only work for them.
24:41.0
So then I had to get a lawyer.
24:42.0
I had to prepare all the papers
24:43.0
and get a new artist visa.
24:45.0
She did the same thing.
24:47.0
And out of 20 people,
24:49.0
we were the only,
24:50.0
we were the only one.
24:52.0
Couple Americans,
24:53.0
we had American too.
24:55.0
So I did the last show in California,
24:57.0
not too far from Los Angeles.
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And then I'm like,
25:01.0
so that was pretty much the end of the show.
25:05.0
And, and I'm like,
25:06.0
I'm not going back to France.
25:11.0
one of the lead actually,
25:12.0
he played the main guy,
25:16.0
We moved together
25:17.0
and we got a place together.
25:18.0
We got an apartment in 2012,
25:22.0
beginning of 2013,
25:23.0
we got a place together.
25:25.0
I got my new artist visa
25:27.0
and keeping going up
25:28.0
and I started doing commercials,
25:33.0
did you get an agent
25:34.0
or you were just pitching yourself?
25:39.0
after like two years,
25:41.0
I got my first agent.
25:42.0
It was a dance agent
25:43.0
because at the time,
25:44.0
my quality was like the B-boy,
25:46.0
the break dancing
25:47.0
and a bit of parkour.
25:49.0
But when I came in US,
25:50.0
that's how I started
25:51.0
to do a martial arts too.
25:52.0
So then I started
25:53.0
to mix everything.
25:55.0
and then auditioning
25:59.0
And then came the change
26:03.0
How did that come about?
26:09.0
Big passion for action movie,
26:12.0
since I was a kid.
26:14.0
That's how I knew
26:16.0
It started with action movie.
26:19.0
Who was your favorite
26:22.0
when I was younger,
26:23.0
when I was 15, 16,
26:27.0
On back and I was,
26:28.0
man, so important.
26:31.0
Younger generation
26:36.0
and I still have like
26:38.0
Jean-Claude Van Damme too.
26:41.0
I thought you were gonna
26:44.0
Tony Jaa had such a
26:52.0
where did you get it?
26:54.0
I'm just intrigued.
26:59.0
It's French, yeah.
27:03.0
On my dad's side,
27:09.0
how do you pronounce it?
27:13.0
I see that in perfumes.
27:15.0
Oh, the toilette.
27:16.0
Oh, the toilette.
27:21.0
I'm just intrigued.
27:25.0
The action, yeah,
27:27.0
and then comes the stunt.
27:30.0
that happened to me.
27:35.0
different strategies.
27:41.0
because I have those
27:42.0
unique breakdance moves.
27:44.0
I had a unique style
27:48.0
it's going to help me
27:49.0
to become an actor.
27:52.0
it doesn't work like that.
27:53.0
That's what I thought.
27:56.0
big interest into action,
28:01.0
it's going to help me too
28:02.0
if I start to do it.
28:03.0
Maybe I become a stuntman.
28:04.0
It's going to help me
28:05.0
to become an actor as well.
28:09.0
Started to take class
28:10.0
with different stunt people,
28:11.0
learning how to fight on camera,
28:14.0
like how to fall.
28:17.0
to fight in front of a camera
28:20.0
than in an octagon
28:23.0
or on the street, right?
28:25.0
Everything is fake on camera.
28:27.0
We use technique,
28:31.0
If the camera is right here
28:32.0
and I want to give you a punch,
28:35.0
so camera is right here,
28:36.0
I'm just going to go in front.
28:37.0
What you're going to do
28:38.0
is you're going to react.
28:42.0
And then they put the sound effect
28:44.0
when they do the edit and everything
28:46.0
and that's our...
28:48.0
Sometimes we touch,
28:51.0
Depends on the moves
28:54.0
When you're a stuntman,
28:55.0
the most important thing
28:56.0
is safety on set.
28:58.0
That's why you get hired
28:59.0
because you have good control
29:02.0
but safety is number one
29:05.0
with those big actors
29:08.0
and if you touch them,
29:12.0
The insurance bond
29:13.0
of those guys are...
29:17.0
They're going to say,
29:20.0
and the movie is going down
29:22.0
and 200, 300 people
29:25.0
That's what happened
29:27.0
Mission Impossible Fallout
29:30.0
does most of his stunts.
29:32.0
He jumped from one of...
29:33.0
Was that where he broke
29:36.0
Everything went down.
29:37.0
They stopped shooting
29:39.0
I think it was one,
29:42.0
Did you see him do stunts?
29:45.0
When we did the movie,
29:49.0
and that was my last movie.
29:52.0
You or Tom Cruise?
30:00.0
to be smaller than me.
30:02.0
So he did his own stunts.
30:05.0
I remember we were doing
30:06.0
rehearsal in Paris
30:08.0
preparing for the scene
30:09.0
in Arc de Triomphe.
30:10.0
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:11.0
In the last Mission Impossible.
30:12.0
I don't know if you remember that.
30:15.0
When he did it for the
30:17.0
And he was with the motorcycle.
30:18.0
So it's all stunt people.
30:20.0
That was really him?
30:22.0
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:23.0
Noel meant nothing.
30:25.0
So when we prepared
30:27.0
we were on the racetrack.
30:28.0
I see an helicopter coming
30:31.0
And people like knows him.
30:33.0
oh, it's Tom Cruise.
30:34.0
I'm like, oh, cool.
30:35.0
He has a really good entrance.
30:38.0
He was piloting the helicopter.
30:39.0
He comes out of the helicopter.
30:41.0
He's like a bunch of motorcycle.
30:44.0
Boom, go on the racetrack.
30:49.0
I'm like, dude, you're crazy.
30:51.0
I have so much respect
30:58.0
that is coming out,
31:00.0
I don't know if you saw it
31:01.0
when he jumped from a cliff
31:03.0
with the motorcycle
31:04.0
and then he used it.
31:05.0
Yes, in a parachute.
31:07.0
And everything he does,
31:10.0
So what happened is
31:12.0
they have stunt double for him.
31:13.0
But what the stunt double do
31:14.0
is when they do the setup,
31:17.0
when you set up the action,
31:21.0
To block your camera and everything.
31:23.0
As soon as it's good,
31:26.0
they switch Tom Cruise.
31:28.0
Like when he did that
31:32.0
That thing was crazy too.
31:34.0
Because you need oxygen.
31:36.0
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:37.0
He had to practice
31:38.0
even that helicopter dive.
31:41.0
that's everything he did.
31:42.0
Doing a donut with a helicopter
31:44.0
and then he spiraled down.
31:47.0
I did all the parts in Paris.
31:49.0
That's the part that I did
31:50.0
because they flew
31:51.0
to different country then.
31:52.0
But everything that I saw him doing,
31:57.0
the motorcycle riding,
32:02.0
I think when we did,
32:03.0
when we shoot it in 2017,
32:04.0
I think it was 53.
32:10.0
Did he inspire you
32:13.0
That's what happened to me.
32:14.0
That's what happened to me.
32:15.0
I think I forgot myself
32:18.0
When I became a stuntman,
32:22.0
I was doing my stunt
32:24.0
and before Mission Impossible,
32:29.0
that's the two movie
32:30.0
pretty much that I did
32:32.0
Then I did Mission Impossible
32:35.0
you're going back
32:39.0
I have a crazy story there.
32:42.0
I went back to Los Angeles
32:44.0
and I said bye to stunt
32:46.0
and I went back from zero
32:49.0
because I got so inspired
32:53.0
doing both the action
32:57.0
But it's two different craft
32:59.0
and both you need
33:00.0
to put so much work into it.
33:02.0
Many people forget
33:03.0
how much acting is.
33:04.0
It's not easy too.
33:06.0
that we gotta practice
33:07.0
and practice and practice.
33:08.0
And I was so conscious about it.
33:13.0
I moved to a cheaper area
33:18.0
I started to take acting class.
33:23.0
in yourself again.
33:25.0
And I became an Uber driver.
33:26.0
Like the 13 year old you again.
33:30.0
From being a stuntman
33:31.0
to I'm gonna be Uber driver
33:33.0
so I can do my class.
33:35.0
I make some money on the side.
33:37.0
And I know it's gonna take time.
33:38.0
I knew it's gonna take
33:45.0
you're gonna have to invest.
33:46.0
It's gonna be tough.
33:47.0
But I never went back to stunt.
33:48.0
You're gonna have to invest
33:50.0
because it's gonna be tough.
33:52.0
And that's what you did.
33:55.0
It took me five...
33:56.0
I mean for my first co-star
34:00.0
one and a half years.
34:01.0
But I have a movie coming out
34:06.0
and Adam Sandler.
34:09.0
When is this coming out?
34:10.0
Five years it took me.
34:11.0
So it's coming out
34:12.0
the 31st of March.
34:15.0
of the first one they did?
34:16.0
Murder Mystery 2.
34:19.0
And I have like...
34:20.0
You have a speaking line?
34:22.0
Are you a French guy?
34:23.0
And I'm fighting Adam Sandler.
34:27.0
working with Adam Sandler?
34:28.0
He's an amazing guy.
34:30.0
I got so inspired too.
34:35.0
Especially he doesn't have
34:36.0
much experience in fighting.
34:40.0
he did a lot too.
34:42.0
Is he back in shape?
34:46.0
because he had like a...
34:47.0
I think he did like a surgery
34:50.0
When he did the movie
34:51.0
basketball movie.
34:57.0
So working with Adam Sandler,
34:58.0
what was your takeaway?
34:59.0
How is his work ethic?
35:01.0
What did you learn from him?
35:05.0
Because for so many years
35:07.0
I wanted to focus on drama.
35:09.0
I was focusing on drama.
35:10.0
That's what I was doing actually.
35:14.0
Never take yourself too seriously.
35:16.0
And he told me something about it.
35:19.0
how powerful is comedy.
35:21.0
Because that's what he does.
35:22.0
Mostly he does...
35:23.0
Actually he was doing...
35:24.0
It was more drama.
35:26.0
But he's great doing both.
35:32.0
Like those people,
35:34.0
how many years of experience?
35:38.0
I don't want to say.
35:39.0
But yes, so many.
35:41.0
I mean, even for me,
35:43.0
I'm nobody, my friend.
35:45.0
So I'm on my way.
35:46.0
I'm making my way.
35:53.0
I'm not gonna lie.
35:54.0
You know, you play with two superstars.
35:56.0
When you auditioned,
35:57.0
did you know it was for Murder Mystery?
35:59.0
Yes, they told me.
36:00.0
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:01.0
I got the site, the script.
36:06.0
Because you know COVID.
36:07.0
We started to do all the self-tape.
36:08.0
But this one specifically,
36:09.0
we did a Zoom live audition.
36:13.0
I think it went well.
36:14.0
And then I got the answer
36:15.0
a couple of weeks later.
36:17.0
It was a long wait.
36:18.0
And they told me,
36:19.0
you got the job, my friend.
36:21.0
I went to Hawaii,
36:22.0
then I went to Paris.
36:23.0
It was an amazing experience.
36:27.0
That was a year ago.
36:28.0
That was January, February.
36:30.0
Were you on an MBA?
36:31.0
Did you have a non-disclosure agreement?
36:32.0
You couldn't talk about the film?
36:34.0
It depends what you wanted me to say.
36:36.0
You know, I cannot say too much.
36:39.0
The trailer just came out.
36:40.0
So you can pretty much see...
36:41.0
Based on the trailer, right?
36:43.0
I'm fighting them.
36:44.0
You see me in the trailer.
36:45.0
You see me like...
36:46.0
Just being on the trailer is a big deal.
36:48.0
Yes, because it's only two minutes.
36:52.0
Yeah, you see me when I tell them,
36:54.0
like, give us the money,
36:56.0
and then we break into a fight.
36:59.0
I was, whoa, Netflix, like...
37:01.0
Well, thank you for me.
37:04.0
I was happy to see myself in a trailer.
37:09.0
How was Jennifer Aniston?
37:13.0
So focused in Paris.
37:14.0
She was pretty focused.
37:17.0
I would say I was closer to Adam,
37:20.0
especially because we did the fight.
37:22.0
Jennifer, not too much,
37:23.0
but great woman, too.
37:24.0
Amazing work ethic.
37:29.0
People, they've been doing it for 20, 30,
37:31.0
maybe more years, you know?
37:34.0
Wow, it's master.
37:37.0
You weren't set doing a big movie,
37:38.0
but it's a master class.
37:40.0
Like you said, work ethic.
37:41.0
That's a big word.
37:42.0
Because people...
37:44.0
People take it for granted.
37:45.0
They don't know that.
37:47.0
You can be the most talented person
37:51.0
but if your work ethic sucks...
37:53.0
Yeah, it's not gonna work.
37:55.0
And that's what I learned
37:56.0
with the movie industry.
37:58.0
You can be so talented,
37:59.0
but if you don't have the...
38:03.0
and the work ethic as well,
38:05.0
it's not gonna work.
38:07.0
Sometimes it's...
38:09.0
I mean, if me and you,
38:10.0
we big producers,
38:11.0
we better go for like
38:13.0
a bit less talented people,
38:15.0
but with better...
38:16.0
Good work ethics, yeah.
38:18.0
Like these stars,
38:20.0
if call time is 5.30 in the morning,
38:22.0
are they there at 5.30 in the morning?
38:25.0
In a trailer, getting makeup,
38:26.0
getting everything,
38:28.0
like hairstyle, everything, wardrobe.
38:36.0
Yes, that was a good...
38:40.0
I can't wait to watch the movie
38:41.0
when it's coming out.
38:42.0
Do you have to pay?
38:43.0
No, just kidding.
38:46.0
So, what's gonna happen now?
38:47.0
Now, you're done with this.
38:48.0
What's next for you?
38:51.0
It's on NDA right now.
38:53.0
Okay, good, good.
39:04.0
Depending when the shoot is gonna happen.
39:05.0
I can say nothing about it.
39:07.0
It's really big too.
39:08.0
Now, are you also thinking of doing,
39:10.0
let's say, an indie
39:11.0
or producing something for your own
39:14.0
Or have you done that already?
39:15.0
I did already for short films.
39:17.0
Especially when you start
39:22.0
You gotta do independent.
39:26.0
Independent short film.
39:27.0
Because you need to get footage
39:29.0
to make a demo...
39:31.0
A demo reel, yeah.
39:32.0
You need to get everything.
39:37.0
So, it's really, really easy
39:40.0
It takes a long time.
39:41.0
And then you start auditioning too.
39:43.0
And auditioning takes a long time too.
39:45.0
The process, right?
39:46.0
The whole process.
39:47.0
Yes, the whole process.
39:48.0
Because usually it's like
39:50.0
for a specific role,
39:51.0
it's like a thousand submissions.
39:53.0
Only 40 people get the audition.
39:56.0
And for one that is gonna
40:00.0
but only 40 people audition
40:03.0
So, when you get the audition,
40:05.0
it's actually already a big deal.
40:08.0
It means you're part of the
40:09.0
let me consider this guy, right?
40:12.0
And the good thing is
40:13.0
if they call you back,
40:14.0
so you don't get the job,
40:15.0
but they call you back again.
40:17.0
This episode is brought to you by
40:19.0
Dr. Lourdes Capulon.
40:22.0
And then you're making friends
40:24.0
with a casting director,
40:27.0
who may consider you
40:28.0
for a future project.
40:34.0
How do you deal with rejection?
40:37.0
Oh, that's good, actually.
40:39.0
Again, I'm a small dude.
40:41.0
How many people told me
40:42.0
you're never gonna do it?
40:44.0
You wanna be an actor?
40:46.0
My French accent too,
40:54.0
I don't give a...
40:56.0
You can say it, say it.
40:57.0
I don't give a fuck.
41:01.0
Since four years,
41:04.0
I knew what I wanted
41:05.0
and people tried to bring me down
41:07.0
and it started in my small city
41:10.0
And nobody had power
41:17.0
to do everything I've done.
41:18.0
Yeah, the dancing
41:19.0
and then the stunt
41:20.0
and from the stunt to acting
41:21.0
and I will keep on going.
41:26.0
I think that's the only way.
41:29.0
we're the only people
41:31.0
to make big things in life.
41:32.0
You know, like...
41:37.0
I did a different podcast
41:38.0
and I said the same thing.
41:39.0
I have only plan A.
41:40.0
I have no plan B, my friend.
41:42.0
Plan B doesn't exist
41:43.0
in my vocabulary.
41:48.0
What I'm about to say,
41:50.0
but if my plan A doesn't work,
41:51.0
I better kill myself.
41:54.0
I better do everything
41:55.0
to make it happen.
41:56.0
That's what it is.
41:58.0
That's what I want.
42:00.0
I knew, I knew, I knew.
42:01.0
I worked too hard.
42:03.0
From when I started...
42:05.0
I was 12 when I was...
42:07.0
I started as a B-boy
42:14.0
31 years later, you know.
42:17.0
Yeah, it's been...
42:19.0
21 years later, yeah.
42:20.0
There's no plan B.
42:24.0
Ladies and gentlemen,
42:27.0
Thank you so much.
42:35.0
See you everywhere.
42:39.0
So, hi, Philippines!
