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Run time: 08:18
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00:00.0
... It seems like 1,000 Afghans refugee per month ang gustong ihouse sa New Clark City at ito is brokered by the US. I mean like nakakapag-taka."
00:31.0
Way back 1920s, 1923 nagkaroon na rin pala tayo ng pagdating ng mga refugee dito. Una yung mga White Russians, taong 1930s hanggang 1940s yung mga Hujo na refugee dahil sa Nazi persecution.
00:50.8
1939 din yung mga Spanish Republicans dito nagkaroon din kaguluhan sa kanilang lugar. Pati na yung mga Chinese kapitbahay natin 1940s pumunta rin sila dito sa Pilipinas. Naulit muli ang mga White Russians pumunta dito 1947 ito.
01:08.6
1975 hanggang 1992 mga Vietnamese refugees naman, Iranian refugees noong 1979, noong 1980s hanggang 1990s mga Indo-Chinese refugee at naong taong 2000 mga taga East Timor.
01:26.4
So hindi bago sa atin yung pagtanggap ng mga refugee pero una mo naman para sa kabatiran ng ating mga kababayan ano sa pagkakaalam nyo, may standard sa pagtanggap ng refugee? Kailangan ba na sobra-sobra muna yung ating budget o financial status ng isang bansa bago makatanggap dito at matulungan ng gusto? Ano ang mga patakaran yan sa pagkakaalam nyo?
01:56.4
So I work also with refugee issues especially when I was based abroad dun sa mga conflict zones. Pero ang refugee kasi may mga requirements kung bakit ka nagiging refugee. First and foremost is more undisplaced ka or may discriminatory action against you or atrocity sa mga isang grupo ng tao or may tinatawag kang war na nai-experience ang isang bansa. So nagkakaroon ka ng mga refugee kasi may displacement na nangyayari.
02:23.7
So it depends really on sa bansa natatanggap. At usually ang refugee, ang una-una na pupuntahan yan ang karating na bansa, malalapit na bansa like border countries. So yan ang unang nagiging recipient o tumatanggap ng refugee or sometimes being forced to accept refugee kasi sila yung malapit.
02:45.3
Pero may mga kriteria ang refugee. Ibig sabihin may displaced ka or talagang persecuted ka, political refugee ka, may mga ganoon. At may ongoing conflict na nangyayari sa isang bansa. Yan ang mga initial consideration for a person or a group of people to be distinguished or to be called refugees. Pero refugee ito, it's much more humanitarian ang issue, hindi siya political.
03:15.3
At kung kaya natin, mag-a-accept tayo tulad ng sinasabing ninyo nung nakaraang panahon or years we accepted Vietnamese refugees, Chinese refugees. Pero not in bulk I think, hindi yung dagsaan na nagiging influx of refugee kasi ang refugee nagiging financial burden sa isang country at nag-o-occupy yan sa isang country.
03:45.3
Kasi pagpunta sila sa inyo, kailangan mo silang bigyan ng magandang, kahit papano, decent way of living at ipoprovide yan ng gobyerno natin. Kasi hindi ka pwede tumangkap tapos pabayaan mo lang walang mangyari sa mga yan. So kailangan mo silang i-finance din to a greater extent.
04:15.3
... To accept refugees in bulk or ilan-ilan lang. Pero may kaibahan kasi yan sa issue ng Afghan refugees. Kasi if you look at Afghan refugees, ito ang pinag-uusapan natin ngayon. Una, malayo ang Pilipinas sa Afghanistan. Pangalawa, at the moment ang Afghanistan kasi though may mga problemang nangyayari pa rin doon kasi katatapos lang ng long war because it was invaded by the Americans to a greater extent.
04:45.3
Patatapos pa lang ng invasion, nag-withdraw na ang America. So may bagong gobyerno and it's trying to establish itself, ang gobyerno na mayroon, ang Taliban gobyerno. Of course may adjustments. So may mga, for example, Afghans or people of Afghanistan may resistance sa bagong gobyerno nila.
05:15.3
... So ang tanong kasi doon bakit ang Pilipinas ang destination when in fact hindi naman tayo border country ng Afghanistan. Maraming border country. Also on the other hand, hindi naman ang Pilipinas ang may kagagawan kung bakit nagkaroon na ganyang sitwasyon, humanitarian crisis or devastation economically speaking on every aspect ang Afghanistan. It was the US who invaded Afghanistan.
05:45.3
So the only country supposedly that should accept refugees should be the US. So ang tanong ko dito sa issue na ito, bakit napunta sa Pilipinas ang burden? It's not that we don't want to open up our borders to human beings like Afghans who really need help.
06:15.3
... And one more very important issue na alam ko is these are American quote-unquote spies. It means they're funded by America and some of them are spies. Ibig sabihin they're not just ordinary Afghans or refugees. So ito ang mga issues na parang ang hirap, parang why the Philippines and why the United States doing this?
06:45.3
Parang hindi tayo makahindi kasi being pushed, being imposed on us. So even with resistance coming from DFA, ang alam ko many high-ranking officials don't want this. So why? Yan ang malaking tanong doon.
07:15.3
... Hindi basta-basta na-accept ka lang tapos hayaan mo sila doon. No. Many people will also be looking at the country kung paano natin tinanggap at paano natin inaalagaan ng mga refugees na tinatanggap natin. Ang tanong nga dyan is are they really refugees? That's even the basic question. Ito ba ang mga refugee talaga o hindi?
07:45.3
Afghanistan was under American invasion. So yun yan. So mas malaking usapin yan. So yun ang perspective ko.
08:15.3
Thank you for watching!
