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S.M.N.I. Truth That Matters

You are right.

But I would be more appearing here with regularity

in the sense that I am now retired.

And every time that I find it really compelling for me.

This is just one way of expressing my sentiments to the people.

Itong pangunahing tanong, Pastor.

The hosting of Afghan nationals in the Philippines

while the Rio SB immigration applications are being processed.

Is it a humanitarian act or a security threat?

Is the government really compelled to accept them?

It's within the constitutional grounds.

Pastor, we are one of the members of the United Nations

and one of the humanitarian objectives of the UN Charter

is really that people are not displaced necessarily

or have a place of sanctuary to escape prosecution

for their being oppressed in the grounds of political or otherwise race

or other reasons for accepting them.

Pastor, in the first question,

is the government really compelled to accept them?

The answer is no, Pastor.

There can never be a compulsion for any member state of the United Nations

that can be compelled to accept foreign nationals,

whether as refugees or in whatever status.

It is always within the discretion,

the power of discretion of the receiving state

to accept or refuse entry of other people other than its own national.

And I would say that the question is no.

We cannot be compelled to.

On the second issue of whether it is within the bounds of the constitution,

I said that as a member state of the United Nations,

I would say that it is within the bounds,

but it must be based,

the acceptance, our acceptance of nationals other than the Filipinos

must be based on valid and justifiable grounds.

Dito tayo sa second query, Pastor Namidjo.

May a lot of serious misgivings.

During the last episode of the Gikan Samasa para sa Masa,

I gave the opinion that as an act of humanitarian interest,

we may accept refugees of other countries,

but I said it must be based on valid grounds.

And actually, Pastor,

you know the Afghans come from a state where there was a civil war.

And itong mga nationals na gusto ng America,

natanggapin natin dito sa ating bayan as refugees.

Sinasabi nga nila economic,

they do not want to use the word refugees

when as a matter of fact, it is they are really refugees.

Balaro lang ito, it's a question of semantics.

You know, when you escape from your country

because you are out to be killed

or there will be serious retaliation against you

or in Afghanistan,

there was a change of government

and the rebels won.

At itong mga tao na sinasabi nila na economic,

I forgot the term, economic...

Economic migrants.

Migrants.

Itong, you know, when we deal in diplomacy,

we must deal in good faith.

Do not change the status of the term refugees to economic.

Kasi kung economic, bakit sila magpunta dito?

If they are considered economic migrants,

kung may pera sila economic,

di do na sila sa Afghanistan mag-invest.

It presupposes that investment,

magpunta sila dito economic.

That they have something to contribute to the economy.

But far from it, actually.

It is the convenient way of the United States

from saving those Afghan nationals

who were working for them when they were in Afghanistan.

Alam nila, they know that the rebels

would overwhelm the government

that the United States was trying to force Natalong.

At itong nagtatrabaho sa kanila,

obligado sila ngayon na tutulungan nila

to provide a safe haven.

The problem is,

these nationals come from a,

I do not want to term it,

but from a militant country

where there was really a revolution

because of the militants there

wanted to impose a government of their own.

Now, itong mga Afghanistan,

we were not part of the vetting or evaluation

whether we accept them as refugees

or as visitors or whatever.

We were never a part of that vetting, mag-evaluate.

So, how are we supposed to be secure

of the interest of our country

when we are accepting foreigners that we do not know?

Just because they were working for the United States

does not mean that it is a guarantee

that we are comfortable in accepting them.

Iba kasi, they might have other reasons

aside from being a refugee.

Maybe it was a matter of convenience for them

to work for the government forces there in Afghanistan.

But it does not automatically become a status

that you are freed from any ideology, belief, or thinking

that is that different from what they have right now.

Wala tayong garantia that they are or were members

of the radicals in Afghanistan.

For now, who own and are now running the government of Afghanistan?

Yan ang mahirap, Pastor.

And the contamination cannot be far away.

You know that we have an insurgency problem dito.

Muslim insurgency.

We have nothing against our brothers and sisters who are moral.

Wala tayong problema dyan. We love them.

But iyong ideology is different from blood or belief

or a shared love for the country.

It is an ideology of destruction and killing and bombing.

Mahirap yan, Pastor.

We might be unconsciously accepting

maybe a troubled group of persons.

We are not certain and I do not know how far we were allowed to vet,

to assess, to understand who are these people.

And the second is it is not a far-fetched idea

that because they are from a state, Natalo,

they were the former government people there.

It's not a far-fetched idea that they would also entertain

acts of revenge or whatever that would be detrimental to them,

not only to them but primarily in the country we are hosting

and between the nationals there.

Hindi natin alam ang dynamics talaga, Pastor.

Except we take it as true what the Americans are trying to tell us

that look, these are good people.

Accept them because they need to have a safe haven.

Mahirap yan.

I have not really extensive, but in my days in government

from the time I was a prosecutor down to the mayorship,

a congressman, then to the presidency.

I have dealt with, not extensively I said,

but dealt with American guys.

I would say that they are purveyors of lies and half-truths.

And I myself cannot tell you as a Filipino now telling you,

the nation, that I will trust the Americans with their word.

I do not have that confidence in them.

Wala.

Hindi ako anti-American.

Pero itong pamilya ko, the Zimmermann,

the forefathers came from the United States.

Although maybe Zimmermann is a Jewish,

original German word for surname.

Hindi ako, pati ang anak ko, si Kitty, was born in the United States.

And for that, I am thankful that she has been given the status

of an American citizen because the law there says that

if you are born in America, you are automatically,

or to a certain extent, be considered an American citizen.

Whether or not your father or your mother is of,

possess other citizenship or nationality.

Gano'no?

Ako dito sa Americano, hindi ako kumpante.

I do not like.

You know what?

If it turns out to be good, then okay.

Probably in the years to come,

I might apologize to the Afghan nationals.

But as of now, we rely only in reference to your characters,

vis-a-vis with the Americans,

who are the ones vetting everybody of you,

supporting them, the Americans,

to go to other countries to seek the right of sanctuary or refuge.

Kaya refugees yan eh.

Kailan pa ba ako nakarinig na there is an Afghan investor here?

So economic, in what sense?

Would he contribute something to the country?

Maybe the workforce.

But how many?

In the natin alam, there are no guidelines given us

about how they are being processed under applications pursued.

And to what extent did our country participate,

I said, in the vetting of these foreign Afghan nationals

to come to the shores of the Philippines?

To be continued...