Sass on Afghan ‘refugees’: Humanitarianism has a cost and sometimes, imbes na nakabubuti, nakasasama
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00:00.0
... Is it a humanitarian act or a security threat? At ang gobyerno ba really compelled to accept them? It is within the bounds of the Constitution siguro. Bilang isang eksperto rin, ano yung gawin mo?
00:25.0
... Well I think dapat natin kasi i-contextualize itong issue ng Afghan nationals. Kung matatandaan ninyo at ginagamit din ito ng ibang supporters ng Pangulong Bombo Marcos na si Pangulong Duterte, ay natpahayag siya natatanggapin ang mga Afghan refugees.
00:55.0
... Ito ay nag-takeover yung Taliban, of course nagkagulo sa Afghanistan. But it was an entirely different context. I believe that we did accept them and I believe mayroon din kota na may kota tayo. At ang alam ko ang madalas tinanggap lang noon, mas tinanggap natin yung mga women and children and families.
01:25.0
... At ito ang natin kinaharap ngayon ay ito ay hiling ng Bansang Amerika na dito muna ilagak ang mga Afghan nationals na ipaprocess nila para magkaroon ng special immigrant visa sa United States.
01:55.0
Meron kasing mahirap doon sa Afghanistan mag-process kaya dito nalang. Pero ang hindi kasi dito lumalabas, ano bang nangyari bakit ang Bansang Amerika ay hindi nalang ilipad itong mga ito sa kanilang teritoryo?
02:25.0
... Ilalim kasi ng batas sa United States, once you are in their territory, they have no choice but to process your asylum papers. Ngayon na nandito sila pinapangako na mapapabilis daw, madali lang daw, temporary lang daw yung stay dito.
02:55.0
... But that's not entirely true. Everyone knows na napakatagal mag-processo ng asylum papers. At ang United States right now ay humaharap sa napakalaking problema nilang ito regarding sa mga former US employees at supporters na nasa Afghanistan.
03:25.0
Ngayon nang nagdala doon, may mga Afghans na nadala sa United States. They were evacuated but not everyone.
03:55.0
... That's the current discourse right now in the United States. In fact, the Biden administration proposed a bill to actually streamline the process para mapabilis itong pag-proseso ng mga papeles ng Afghan refugees.
04:25.0
... Para mapabilis ang pag-apply nila ng permanent status after a year of being paroled in the country. Ibig sabihin you need to be physically there. But this was not passed. Now Biden is facing a problem.
04:55.0
... Baka mapurnada pa ang kanyang second term. Maging isa pa itong dahilan. Ngayon hindi rin naman niya maiwanan doon kasi it's also a criticism against him na pinabayaan mo ang mga former US employees and former US supporters doon ng Amerika na nasa Afghanistan. They might be at risk.
05:25.0
... A safe country other than the United States at tayo ang napili ng bansang Amerika."
05:55.0
... All I can see is maybe because we love to please the United States. I think it's just built in in our DNA, part of our colonial mentality na hindi na natin napakawalan.
06:25.0
... Pero alam din natin na humanitarianism has a cost. Sometimes inbis na mapabutik pa ang pagtulong mo minsan napapasama. Things happen that way. As an adult and I hope we are all adults here and the government is composed of adults, naiisip nila ito.
06:55.0
... The Philippines under refugee jargon is already considered as the first safe country that these Afghan nationals arrived in. Ang sinasabi, parang clearing house lang tayo papuntang United States. Well, that's not as easy as it sounds.
07:25.0
... Because they are not in their physical territory. Wala kang ngaabol dyan. Ang ngaabol mo lang dyan siguro is kaibotura ng puso nila which of course sways sometimes to the extreme left or to the extreme right depending on the status of politics in the United States.
07:55.0
... Sa mga Afghan nationals na ito. And then we have to recognize them at some point in time as refugees. I'm not saying that once they arrive here we will already accept them as refugees. Might not be the case.
08:25.0
... Tayo, ang Pilipinas, ang kailangang mag-recognize sa kanila. Because we're the first safe country. Kasi we don't have any option M.J. Jane. We don't have any options. Once they're here you cannot send them back to Afghanistan. That would be violating the principle of non-refoulement.
08:55.0
... Of being persecuted or suffering other grave human rights violations. Kaya nga sila umalis. And they would like to go to the United States hopefully because they are fleeing. So we cannot send them back. So once they're here they're as good as our responsibility for as long as we could imagine.
09:25.0
... E pag nandito rin ang mga Afghan nationals, if you would like to deport them, you will pay for their deportation."
09:55.0
... Because family is the core value of Philippine culture. And it's just safe. You want to host a family. You want this family to have a good life here and maybe they would enjoy it here because family is highly treasured in our country."
10:25.0
... You have to budget for P50,000. Is the United States willing to give us a budget for P50,000 people that is good for at least 5 years? Sana magbigay na sila ng lump sum amount that we could use? I don't know how much would it cost?
10:55.0
... I don't know if a lot of Filipinos in the Philippines actually lived in countries where there are actually refugees. I had lived in a country that had refugees. Kahit dun sa Netherlands, hirap na hirap sila. And it actually divided their society because the left-wing folks, hindi mo rin sila masisisi, nagreklamo.
11:23.0
... Bakit itong mga refugees ito may pabahay. Kami dito ang citizen, hirap na hirap na humanap ng bahay. So all those sorts of things that right now, medyo abstract pa sa atin. Pero ako, I know what it is. I lived in a country that had refugees and kaya proceed with caution and do not rely on the request of the United States."
11:50.0
Bukod sa nagdagpasanin, nakikita mo rin basas na banta sa siguridad natin knowing na ito palang mga Afghan refugees ay tinatawag ng mga Afghan U.S. personnel o mga empleyado ng Amerika na nag-spia doon sa Afghanistan. At possible ba nagagamitin din ito ng Estados Unidos na magiging espia dahil nga may tension tayo dito sa West Philippine Sea sa pagitan ng China, ng Taiwan at ang Amerika?
12:18.0
... Well hindi rin natin yan maalis sa ating isipan especially that the United States love hiring mercenaries. E diba itong Taliban mga mujahidin, mga U.S. creation, U.S. sponsor, paano natin masi-separate itong mga decolor sa puti?
12:48.0
... Are we going to rely on the intelligence report of the United States? What is exactly the incentive of the United States to be honest about the real status of these people? Wala.
13:18.0
... Magpatuloy sa kanila. And then tapos na ang responsibilidad nila, e paano nga kung itong mga ito pala, mga nandito lang pala sa atin in order to be trained?
13:48.0
... So I don't know. Do whatever that they please. And of course that is aligned with the interests of the United States. Mas doon ako at MJ at Jade. We might be drawn into a conflict that is not our own making. Ang hilig talaga natin diyan.
14:18.0
... Siyempre may rebelyo na katumbas. Are we willing to train them here? Why? These are valid questions based on the historical behavior of the United States itself. Kaya hindi ito puwedeng dadaandaanin sa puso dahil hindi lang puso ang usapan dito. Marami pang bagay."
14:48.0
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