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I've known you ever since you graduated from the military academy, second lieutenant ka palang, tapos kasi magkaklase sila ng husband ko sa PMA.

So my question to you is, I've known you ever since you fresh out of the academy and yet your passion hasn't waned.

Because noong time na yun, UP ako nun eh, woke ako nun. So si General Parlade ang taga-kwento sa akin habang iniwanan na kami ng buong kaklase nila na they gave up on me because I was radical, I was UP.

Talagang ganyan and yet General Parlade patiently, patiently through all these decades that we've been friends, tried to win me over, win me over and up to now, you're still doing it.

I haven't seen your passion wane. So my question to you is, can you tie it up? Can you explain to us? I want to know, actually I got a lot of questions here now about you.

People who admire you, where does that fuel come from? Where does that passion come from? And if you can tie it up with, ba't hindi ka natatakot dito sa ero...

I'm sorry, ba't hindi ka natatakot dito kay Bungot?

Sa mga barker ng komunista, ng CPP.

First step yun eh. First step, know your enemy. And thank you very much kay Eric and thank you very much for all the confidence.

Yes, talaga. Grabe yan si Eric. Grabe yan. Wait, wait. Jun, Jun. Can I just sing it ha?

Because it was you and Eric talaga that woke me up.

Very patiently also, very patiently. Talagang yung knowledge, yung information. And when the picture became clear, there were times when I would cry.

But it was Eric talaga na nagbukas ng isip ko. So grateful na pampagising kayun dalawa.

And also General Parlabi ma'am was also our inspiration until now, siya pa rin. Sir, thank you.

And you were saying something sabi mo sa sagot mo kay Ma'am Lorraine. Knowing the enemy is the start of your passion to deep knowledge and sustaining it with commitment and passion. Go ahead sir.

Yeah. Remember, remember as a lieutenant we've been facing this threat.

In 1987 pa kami nag-graduate, kakaasan ng CBP-NPA. That's when I started questioning what is the government doing to address this.

I'm a soldier. I'm not supposed to fight these fellow Filipinos. What's the problem with my fellow Filipinos? Why are they so radicalized? Why are they so violent?

So why are we fighting here? Sabi ko. So inaaral ko yan. And even before I met Eric, meron ako mga ideas kung bakit. It's really about poor governance, mal-governance, and even absence of governance in many areas.

Ito yung unique advantage ng CBP. If the government is not in an area, if their services are not seen in the area, then they come in. They fill the vacuum.

So sila ngayon ang nakikita ng mga taong bayan, mga tapo bayan natin, na solution doon sa mga problema nila, solution doon sa mga paghihirap nila doon sa mga libid na lugar ngayon.

So I said, where's the government? I'm a military guy. I'm supposed to secure the security of the state. But why are we having this kind of internal problem?

So sabi ko nga, do ko na-realize, politics e. This problem is really a political problem and cannot be solved by myself as a part of the military.

Partly I can do, maybe the armed component, yes. But what about the other components of this? What about the party? What about the economic aspect of this world? What about the social aspect of this world?

E sino ba naman sila tayo ng parliament? So alam mo Dr. Rain, kanyante pa tayo. Kaya ako, ang lakas ng load ko na harapin. Because I have some understanding.

Nothing can be validated. Napakahirap mag-anap ng mga dokumento coming from mga retired natin, mga official, saying exactly kung ano itong mga nagawa ng NTF-LTA.

Walang panaloon kasi very murky itong threat environment na ito. Kasi kanina nabanggit niyo, ambisyoso niyong lahat ng official ng armed forces.

Gusto mag-CGA, gusto mag-inaralaan, gusto mag-chipotza. So they don't mind kung hindi nila ma-accomplish yung mission nila sa isang probinsya,

as long as maganda, mabango sila at wala silang kahaway ng mga congressista. Especially since many of these congressmen, actually nine, umabot sa nine ata yan.

The maximum number of makabayan black na nagkaroon ng seats. Especially since many of these people are already in Congress. They are the ones fighting and attacking the budget of the armed forces and commission on appointments.

Actually yung pagdating ni Eric and yung mga ibang congress na meet natin, later may career. Colonel na. Colonel na tayo Eric.

May ceremony yan. Wala tayong masyadong mabasa ng mga dokumento na ito tungkol sa creation ng NPA, creation ng CPP, and even the creation of the Moro National Liberation Front.

At natural po kayong madaling mabigyan ng kaalaman ni Ma'am Lorraine because of the two qualities that you possess both. Yung inyong thirst for knowledge is always there, yung pagiging bukas ng kaisipan nyo, at ang pagiging natural nyo ng organic intellect was.

Yung madaling magabsorb ng kaalaman. Yes. And because of that, you really was a trailblazer among the generals in the armed forces that you can speak your mind out and stand solidly para expose completely ang kalaban.

That's the reason na naging haligi po kayo ni Ma'am Lorraine sa NTFLCAC in the founding years nito. Napakalaking tulong kayo upang big kissin ang pamahalaan at ang buong sangbayanan in the concept of whole of government and whole of nation approach.

Kaya inahanap pa rin ng mamamayan yung tandem na yan, yung tatlo tayo na lumusob sa kanila sa kongreso. Yung ka Eric, Lorraine Badoy and Parladin na hinarap nila, yun po ang talagang turning point and crossroad in our discussion in the public realm kung ano talaga ang kalaban natin.

Ms. Ina, your take on this discussion. Yes. Thank you, Ka Eric. And General Parladin, it's good to see you again. And while you were speaking kanina, naalala ko para akong nanonood ulit yung hearing, yun, yung time na panggit mo. At nung tumakunang nagsipapasimula ang laban kasama ang bayong, talaga matalas at naramdaman natin yung passion.

And which brings me to this question, if you will assess General Parladin, if you will compare yung experience mo noon at ngayon sa NTFL ka, ano po ba ang inyong nakikita? At kasi nung mga panahon yun, grabe yung ingay din e. Talagang NTFL ka at ngayon may mga pumupunan na parang hinahabol pa yung mga dating tagapagsalita ng NTFL ka.

Ano po ba ang nakikita nyo dito? Ano po yung mga bagay na nakikita nyo dapat pangakita ng ating pamahalan? O may mga bagay din ba silang ginawa na worthy to be praised? Ano po ang inyong tingin ngayon sa approach ng NTFL ka?

I'm very happy na nandyan ngayon si National Security Advisor Secretary Año. Hindi kasi pwedeng babalik tayo sa grey areas na yan. Black and white lang ito. It's either you are red or you are white, you are red or you are blue. Wala ditong pink. So dapat malinaw na malinaw na malinaw yan especially sa mga kasamahan natin sa gobyerno.

... Very clear ang kanyang direction. Very clear kung sino si CPP. At hindi pwede ang CPP ay gigiba sa ating demokrasya. Dapat ganoon. Ganoon ang mga leaders na kailangan natin. Ganoon ang mga sekretary na kailangan natin.

Malinaw natin dito sa aspeto na ito, dito sa campaign na ito. Iisa lang. Walang middle ground dito na maninimbang ka kasi baka magalit si Congressman Bigote Sarate. No, walang ganoon. Di ba baka magalit si Sen Riza Contivero. Walang ganoon. Iisa lang. Iisa lang ang bansa natin ang daan natin yan at iisa lang ang gobyerno natin.

Dapat na gawin para tanggapin ka ng taong bayan. Of course, yung legal na pamamaraan. At alam naman lahat na wala silang legal na pamamaraan sila ang mananalo. Violente lang ang pamamaraan na alam nila para makuha nila ang pamumuno sa ating demokrasya.

Dapat ganoon lahat ng kahensya. Thank you for asking the question again. Kasi hindi tayo pwede... Alam natin judisyari, masyado infiltrated ang kahensya ng gobyerno especially sa judisyari. Kaya tayo umaabot sa ganito patanggal.

Sa terror financing, nasa grey list na tayo ng International Task Force on Terrorist Financing. Nasa grey list tayo. Why? Kasi wala tayong ma-convict na isang terorista for terrorist financing. Ang dami natin nakasuwan pero wala pa tayong na-convict.

... So that's one. That's one. Sigurado tayo na dapat isa ang direksyon natin para ma-convict natin itong mga terorista. Now if we do that, pag na-convict natin at natanggal tayo sa grey list, alam mo bakit effect noon?

... Nang mataas ang cost of doing business, ang cost of money, ang cost of foreign investments napakataas kasi risky ang Pilipinas. Can you imagine kung ilang percent ang bababawas doon sa interest ng mga? For instance ito ang mga CFWs na lang, malaki ang binabawas sa interest ng mga pagalan nila. Why? Kasi nasa grey list ang Pilipinas.

... We are citizens. We are citizens. We have to educate them kung anong impact nito kapag patumpik-tumpik na naman ang gobyerno sa uprose natin sa ending insurgency. So yan ang take-off sa NTF-LCAF and I'm very happy really nasa tamang direksyon ngayon ng NTF-LCAF.

Ayun. Klaro.