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00:00.0
... Are you done? Alright yan magandang araw mga kapatid natin at welcome sa isa namang live stream.
00:30.0
... Hindi ko alam kung bakit hindi pa nagsalita si Robin Padilla dito mga kabatas natin. Sinabi niya kapag ikukulong si Bato de la Rosa, Sen. Bato, pero Bato de la Rosa at Robin Padilla na nasasabing ko alam nyo namang sinakaw na sila.
01:00.0
... Bakit? Kasi nga syempre senador kayo, binoto kayo ng tao. Kung pupunta kayo doon at magpapakulong, anong nangyayari sa Pilipinas?
01:30.0
... Tignan muna natin kung anong sinabi ni Bato de la Rosa. Tapos bibigay ko rin yan sa akin.
02:00.0
... That's a good reaction. Why? Investigation pa lang naman. Doon sa mga nagtatanong sa akin, attorney ano sa tingin mo dito? Investigation pa lang naman. If they will investigate mga kabatas natin, wala naman problema sa tingin ko.
02:18.0
... Magkakaroon na lang siguro ng problema eventually kung anong klaseng investigation yung gagawin. If it will affect the sovereignty of the Philippines, if it will affect the Philippines as an independent country, kung may violations din na mangyayari sa mga karapatang pantao dahil sa mangyayaring investigation, then there will be a problem by then.
02:39.0
... Pero mga kabatas natin kung mag-iimbestiga pa lang sila, I think there's no problem. Kasi nga investigation pa lang naman."
03:09.0
... So what can you do? Di mo naman sila pwedeng girahin. Di ba?"
03:39.0
... Surprisingly those are the correct answers. Kung wala ka naman ginagawa masama then investigate niyo wala problema. It's just investigation."
04:09.0
... So wala magkakaroon ng problema eventually mga kabatas natin. Sinasabi nga nila kasi umalis tayo sa ICC. So bumalik na ba tayo? Kasi I think during Duterte's time umalis tayo sa ICC. Kung hindi pa tayo bumabalik, ganoon yung mangyayari. Ang problema lang kasi diyan yung mga sanctions.
04:36.0
... Pero let's see. This is a developing case. Ayaw ko namang i-preempt. Gusto naman ng mga tao dito parang what do you think about the investigation? I think it's okay. Parang yang sinabi niya. Go ahead with the investigation. It's just an investigation.
04:53.0
Di ba? Hindi pa tayo bumabalik? Sabi niya. Kung hindi pa tayo bumabalik then baka nga wala at wala silang jurisdiction over us."
05:23.0
... It will be weird. Why? Because why would you? I think that will be overstepping. Kapag kunwari yung ICC uutusan niya yung korte dito, hindi na tama yan. Bakit?
05:54.0
... You don't... Get a complainant. Ganito dapat ang mangyayari. Kung mag-uutos sila ng korte sa Pilipinas, that will never happen in my opinion. Legal opinion lang ito. That will never happen. Why? Kasi nga you are overstepping.
06:11.0
Ginagawa mo ng inutil yung korte. What should you do for the court to act? Hindi mo uutusan yung korte. Kasi yung o-korte magtatrabaho at magtatrabaho naman yan. Ano yung gagawin mo? Ang gagawin mo mag-file ka ng kaso sa korte tapos the court will act.
06:30.0
You will not force the court to act motopropio because of your request. O hindi request eh. Ano ba ang utos? Command. Di ba it's so weird? It's so weird. That's for sure overstepping if you will tell the court, prosecute this, prosecute this. No.
06:56.0
Hindi maghanap yung korte ng complainant, hindi maghanap ng korte o hindi gagawa yung korte ng kaso para masatisfy ka. In the first place, if that happens, the impartiality of the court will already be affected.
07:12.0
Order. Tama. Mas maganda uutusan mo o order mo. Hindi pwede. What should you do? Mag-file ka ng complaint sa korte. Mag-file ka ng criminal case. If there were criminal cases, then the court will act. But you don't of course order the court to do it.
07:36.0
Di ba? Hindi, hindi, hindi mangyayari yun. Kasi ito yung parang sinasabi nila, uutusan yung korte, it will never happen in my opinion. Unless of course a Supreme Court said pwede. Pero pag ganun ang mangyayari, so ibig sabihin, pwedeng utusan yung korte. I don't think so.
07:53.0
Hindi ma-utusan yung korte because they're supposed to be impartial. Unless of course yung Supreme Court may motopropio powers yan. Katulad nung ginawa nila doon sa mga ibang kaso. Yung kay Gadon. Motopropio. Ginawa nila yung kaso because they have facts in relation to that.
08:15.0
And in that particular case, they are disciplining a member of the bar. Di ba? So kahit walang complainant pwede. Kasi nga, member namin yan e. Parang kunwari sa mga fraternities din, di ba? Sa mga fraternities pwede rin mag-discipline yung fraternity ng mga membro nila even if no one complains personally. Kasi you are part of an organization.
08:41.0
Pero in this case, in the court, yung korte hindi yan frat o kaya hindi sya parang IBP o kaya hindi sya parang Supreme Court. You're part of an organization or group parang mga abogado na pwede mong utus-utusan. Di ba?
09:11.0
... sa ibang bansa. Umasok, papasok nito. E malihing gulo yan."
09:42.0
... They can be prosecuted internationally. Pwede magkaroon ng endorsements o kooperation. Tulad ng sinasabi ko sa inyo, most of the child trafficking cases that I handled, we worked with the FBI.
10:01.0
... Yung mga ebidensya mga kabatas natin na nakuha namin are from FBI. Inendorse pa ng FBI kasi yung mga tao, Pilipino na nagtatraffic dito sa Pilipinas, nung mga bata, yung mga parakyano nila Amerikano doon sa states. Pinapadalhan na lang sila ng pera dito.
10:24.0
... Ngayon yung mga FBI sila yung nagiging pain. Sila yung nagpapanggap ng mga parakyano nung mga tao dito sa Pilipinas na gumagawa ng krimen na yun kaya sila rin yung tumitistigo dito sa korte natin dito sa Pilipinas kasi sila yung mga nakakuha ng ebidensya in relation to human trafficking, child trafficking.
10:54.0
... Pwede na pwede mag-implement. Dependent na police ng local na police, hindi naman mag-implement ang police natin dahil ang standard ng gobyerno hindi sila na-recognize kasi hindi na tayo membro."
11:24.0
Pero yan din ang dahilan. If there is a warrant, like for example yung warrant kay Kibuloy, they cannot implement here in the Philippines. It's difficult kasi nga there should be extradition.
11:54.0
I-extradite. Pero tulad ng sinabi ko, extradition is an exercise of the political power. Siyempre the government will still talk about it.
12:24.0
The government will investigate it saan sila kukuha ng mga tistigo. Yan ang medyo malabo mga kapatid natin because this is political in nature.
12:54.0
Ito ang medyo ng parehong bansa na criminal. Like for example yung mga top most wanted criminals na kinoconsider din natin dito. Like for example mga terrorists, yung Al-Qaeda, yung mga branded na terrorists. Ngayon mga kapatid natin because they are already denominated as terrorists kapag pumunta sila dito.
13:24.0
Yung huhuliin nila doon mga kapatid natin, they are international fugitives. Yan ang nangyari doon. So there's no problem because it's mutual, they can cooperate. Pero if it's not mutual, there's a problem.
13:54.0
I am within the territorial jurisdiction of the Philippines. Dito lang ako. Pero siguro doon sa bansa na hindi ay sisi friendly. Like China, like Russia.
14:24.0
I think the questions of the reporters are very appropriate. Yung mga dapat tanungin. Kasi nga pati sila nag-insert sila ng facts na most probably hindi naman mangyayari.
14:44.0
Ngayon siyempre ang unang tanong dyan, yung ICC sila yung mag-i-issue ng warrant. Ngayon siyempre pag-investigation yung mangyayari, pag-investigation pa yung nangyari na ganyan, investigation lang yan.
14:58.0
Tandaan niyo mga kabatas natin, if they will be accusing BATO or anyone else of a criminal act, basic human right na magkaroon ng trial. Kasi kahit international criminal court yan and it involves a criminal act, there should be a trial wherein witnesses will be presented and you have the right to confront your witnesses.
15:27.0
Ganoon yung mangyayari dyan. Pero before everything else, before a trial can be commenced, there must be jurisdiction. Because jurisdiction is basic. The very important part of every trial is the tribunal, the court or the quasi-judicial body should have jurisdiction.
15:51.0
Yan ang interesting dyan na kailangan natin alamin paano nila makukuha yung jurisdiction na yan kung umalis tayo.
16:21.0
Kailan yun kapag relevant kayo sa topic? Doon kayo pag pinag-uusapan natin yung Rafi Tulfo in action kasi i-feature ko yung mga comments nyo katulad ng ginagawa ko kay Palita. Pero pag hindi naman yan ang pinag-uusapan natin tapos hindi Rafi Tulfo in action yung pinag-uusapan natin tapos ganyang kayo ng ganyan, wala. You cannot expect anything.
16:47.0
Okay? Ang dami. Maraming salamat pa mga kapatid natin na syempre tulad ng lagi ko sinasabi, matulog po tayo ng may imbing. Dahil alam natin na natutulog ng may imbing, siya yung laging panalo. Paalam po. Pantagpo.
