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Veteran defense reporter and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Manny Mogato weighs in on issues regarding key appointments in the Philippine military and the defense department under President Marcos Jr.
Christian Esguerra
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Q1. You've been covering defense and security issues since 1987. Tama ba?
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... General si Kutel at pinigyaresign si Cory para ibalik si dating Pangulong Marcos. E natalo pero di sila sumuko so nag-attempt sila maraming beses pa, mga kalahatin nusena, hanggang 1989."
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... Kasi muntik siya ng manalo kundi dahil sa mga Amerikano na pinakausapan ni dating Pangulong Fidel Ramos na siyang defense secretary noong that time na magpalipad naman ang Amerikano sa crypt ng F-4 na fighter para takutin ang tora-tora na aeroplano ng ma-rebelding sundalo.
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... Ang F-4 na yan ang Philippine Air Force, piniturahan lang ng mga kano. So syempre hindi rin. Masayawar. Hindi naman nagkaroon ng dogfight. Ang sinasabi ay persuasion flights."
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... At sa News 5 tama ba? Ako kasi seryoso hindi ko nasasabi sa ito. Gusto ko binabasa ang column ni Boss Manny kasi nandoon ang institutional memory especially when it comes to security and defense issues.
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... At ganda rin ang mga homily na sinusulat mo sa Facebook. Ang mga reflections on the gospel. Grabe. Yan ang range ni Manny Mugato. He can talk with authority regarding Catholic issues at defense and military.
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... Pero binibita kita masyado. Oo nga baka marami maniwala. Oo yan lang utangan si Manny Mugato. Baka utangan niyo sabihin niyo. Anyway puntahan natin ang pinakatumbok nating issue rito.
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... Tama yan pero may isa pang dahilan kaya siya nag-resign. Unang-una inaasahan niya na magiging permanent secretary of national defense after 1 year. Kasi nag-retire siya sa servisyo noong November 2021.
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So mayroon atang ban na hindi pwede maging ma-appoint ng cabinet ang isang general na nag-retire sa servisyo for 1 year. So in-appoint siya ni Pangulong Marcos noong July 1. So wala pang 1 year ng kanyang retirement.
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So inaasahan niya na noong November magiging permanent secretary of national defense. Hindi nangyari.
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Q. Sinabihan na siya hindi makukuha ang permanent position? A. Hindi naman sinabihan pero inaantay niya. At siguro pinalagpas na ang katapusan ng December hoping na hindi makalimutan ni Bongbong. Kasi alam mo si Bongbong may pagkalimutin.
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Q. Pagbongbong mahal na Pangulong Bongbong? A. Mayroong sabihin yan. Pwede bang da-junior? Pwede rin. Mahal na Pangulong da-junior.
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Alam mo si Mahal na Pangulong da-junior may problema sa pagkakamalimutin. Kasi noong in-appoint niya si Gen. Bartolome Vicente Vaccaro noong Augusto bilang chief of staff, pinalatan niya si Andres Centino. Pero si Centino nakalimutan niyang i-retire.
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Q. Ang retirement niya Feb 4? A. Next month pa retirement ni Centino. So hawak-hawak ni Centino ang 4-star rank. At hindi ngayon mahawakan ni Gen. Vaccaro ang 4-star rank kasi nandyan pa si Centino.
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Q. Mayroon ba ang role isa lang ang pwedeng makahawak ng 4-star rank? A. Under the law, isa lang ang 4-star rank ng Armed Forces of the Philippines. Kaya hindi ma-promote-promote si Gen. Vaccaro dahil hawak pa ni Gen. Centino.
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Nakalimutan. So parang nasa floating status lang si Gen. Centino. Later on napag-isip-isip nila, o nga hindi pala na-retire. Kaya in-offer nilang gawing ambassador to India si Gen. Centino noong mga bandang October, late na rin.
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Pero alam mo naman nagkaroon ng palitan sa Executive Secretary office noong October na wala si Vic Rodriguez. Nung wala si Vic Rodriguez kumala na yung chismes na pati si Gen. Vaccaro mapalitan kasi ang nagsubo ng kanyang appointment ay si Vic Rodriguez. So identified siya kay Vic.
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So yung faction identified with Vic Rodriguez at ang balita parang ini-ease out lahat ng mga identified diyan?
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Ano? Marami yan. Marami. Marami siyang na-appoint. So tingin ng Pangulong Marcos na... Mahal na Pangulong Marcos. Mahal na Pangulo. Mahal na Pangulo de Junior na hindi niya hawak ang Armed Forces of the Philippines kasi nga may ibang faction na nandyan.
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So mga tawid, nagdilinis lang siya ng organization. Di lang sa military kundi sa police na giningan niya, giningan ni Secretary Avalos ng courtesy resignation noong 900 na general at colonel.
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At ginasabing may involvement sa drug. Pero kung tututusin less than 10 ang involved, bakit naman napaka-stripping at lahat gusto palitan?
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Kaya nawala si Gen. Bacaro at mawala din yung mga ilang police general na identified kay dating Pangulong Digong.
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Identified ba si Gen. Bacaro kay former President Duterte? Hindi naman. Kaya lang actually mas well tingnan si Gen. Bacaro dahil na-involve sa namatay na kadete sa PMA.
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Siya yung commandant of cadets. Nasabit siya dyan. Kung tututusin, sabi ng iba, tapos na ang career niya. Pero nagkaisa sa Southern Luzon Command, nagkaisa ni Pangulong Digong noong magretiro yung pinakasikat na Army General si Antonio Parralade.
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Sino yan? Hindi natin nadidinig yan. Antonio Parralade yung red tagging. Ayun lahat na makikita at pula.
09:15.0
Oo. Siya yung dating Southern Luzon Command. So na magretiro siya, pinalit si Bob Bacaro. Pero alam ko si Bob Bacaro okay na officer yan kasi dating spokesman ng Armed Forces.
09:31.0
E nataka media-friendly. Medal of Valor award yan? Oo Medal of Valor. Nag-survive siya sa Northern Luzon na inatake sila ng 115 NPA. So mas kinasugutan na siya paglabo pa siya ng 16 oras.
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Talagang pinakikita niya kanyang tapang at galing bilang bata pa siya, teniente pa lang. Kaya siya nabigyan ng Medal of Valor, yung pinakamataas na medalya sa ating sandatahang lakas.
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Parang opportune time para sa mga gusto magpakalit ng chismes, may mga disgruntled members ng military din initially dahil doon sa 3-year fixed term na naayos naman eventually.
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Q1. So naupo si Bacaro, tinanggal si Sintino na inabutan ni Mahal na Pangulong the Junior. Bakit nang tinanggal niya si Sintino nilagay si Bacaro, ba't binalik pa si Sintino? E para return na naman next month. Bakit hindi siya kumuha sa 89? Class 88 yun dalawa?
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Q2. So kung may 3-star general, si Sintino nandyan pa? Another problem yan. Parang panahon ni Bob Bacaro. So i-fuel mo lalo yung disgruntlement sa ha-line ng mga general.
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Q3. So kung si Sintino mabibayaan ng bagong batas o i-retire next month? Siguro kung i-retire siya next month at pipili ng bagong chief of staff, sa tingin ko medyo may stabilize ang ating military. Pero kung si Sintino may extend.
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Q4. Si General Bacaro kailan ba siya due to retire? Ano ang dinig mong plano sa kanya?
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A. Si General Bacaro nag-retire na. Ang kanyang retirement date is September last year. Napoint siya ng August, na-extend siya. Sinasabi na he will be the first general na mag-reserve ng 3 years.
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... At si Fabian Ver nag-silvi ng ilang taon na extended din. So ito ang mga mga pangulong marcos. So ito ang mga mga pangulong marcos.
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At si Fabian Ver nag-silvi ng ilang taon na extended din. Kaya ang pan-extension nag-alit ang mga professional sundalo na itinayo ang reformed armed forces movement, ang RAM.
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Iyon ay maging 60 na nung mag-retire si dating pangulong Ramos. So hindi na bago yan. Pero ang 3-year term as chief of staff hindi na bago yan. Kasi wala pa namang batas, ang unang nag-reserve ng 3 years si General Leonardo de Villa noong panahon ni Cory.
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... Kasi noong 1988 nagretiro ang buong class ng PMA class of 1937. Sabay-sabay lahat silang niretire regardless of their age. Niretire sila sabay-sabay noong 1988 at ang naiwan lang si Gen. De Villa. He was given 3-year tour of duty.
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... Pinagbigyan ni Cory Aquino ang paborito ni General at that time, si Gen. Rudolfo Biason. Si Gen. Biason magretiro in 3 months, April 1991. So pinagsirbi niya hanggang 3 months.
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... Pindal Ramos yan pero hindi niya pinalitan at pinagpatuloy ni Gen. Abadilla ang kanyang term hanggang 1994. At pinalitan siya ng classmate niya na si Gen. Arturo Inrile na in-extend ni Pangulong Ramos at that time because mayroong APEC 1996...
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... Pero dahil may APEC, anantay mong matapos ang APEC noong November bago pinagpahinga si Gen. Inrile. Pero after that, revolving door na. Lalo na noong panahon ni Gloria.
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... Under Gloria, meron siyang 11 na chief of staff for 9 years.... Pero puro may exe yan. Roy Cimato, may exe yan. Parang happy lahat.
16:37.0
... So after ni Pangulong Gloria, si Pangulong Digong ang may maraming chief of staff din. Labing isa pero 6 years lang. So balak nilang baguhin yan. Nag-anong sila ng bagong batas RA 11709.
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... Kaya pa lang kay Gen. Vaccaro, sumabit na."
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Q&A to fans of the military doon kay President Marcos. How do you think he's handling it? Nadya ba talaga ang fear na magkaroon ng problema, ang kanyang administration with the military?
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Mayroon ang problema yan ni Mahal na Pangulong de Junior. Kasi na-mishandle ng tatay niya ang military noong panahon niya, baka ganoon din mauwi si de Junior na ma-mishandle ang armed forces at asama ngayon ng polis.
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... Kasi hindi maiwasan na maraming tatampo kung may extension. Ngayon ang dapat ginawa nila kung gusto nila ng 3-year term, dapat deep selection. Kumuha siya ng magiging chief of staff niya sa class 92.
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... So parang irinitiro mo ang 89 to 91 lahat. So walang tampuhan yan."
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