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00:00.0
... Alright yan magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa ng live stream. Mag-uusapan natin ngayon ang mga sinabi ni Sen. Chiz Codero tungkol doon sa ginagawa ng Bureau of Immigration. Alam nyo naman mga kabatas natin, you know my sentiments about this. I still find it unconstitutional and against the law that they will have discretion."
00:30.0
... Pero we need minor tweaking and I think the best way to go about this like I said is to file a case with the Supreme Court sana to declare the unconstitutionality or to declare null and void ang administrative order nila kung saan nagbibigay ng discretion doon sa mga Bureau of Immigration officers, sa IOs na tinatawag nila.
00:59.0
Pero mga kabatas natin, before we talk about it lentily, let's listen to Chiz Codero.
01:29.0
... Pagdating mo sa bansang pupuntahan mo, random na lang yan at hindi...
02:00.0
... Kapag nag-iiba yung namumuno, nag-iiba yung nakaupo, nag-iiba rin yung style. Diba? Duluyan natin.
02:14.0
... Patungkol naman sa mga kababayan nating paalis, tao na ito at hindi bagahe."
02:22.0
... Yung sinabi niyang tao na ito hindi ito bagahe, ibig sabihin kapag tao ka na you have the right to travel in relation to our Philippine laws. In relation to the umbrella law which is the Constitution of the Philippines.
02:39.0
... Hindi iniistriktuan ang pag-ales maliban sa pagkakaroon ng valid passport at visa kung kinakailan. Yan din ang punto natin. Those are the only requirements.
02:57.0
... Kasi pupunta ka sa ibang bansa. So yung receiving country siyang magsasabi kung pwede kang pumunta doon o hindi. Hindi yung country kung saan kaaalis. Sila naman ang tatanggap sayo doon.
03:19.0
... Ngayon kapag hindi tama yung pangtanggap sayo, bakit kasalanan ng Pilipinas? Ngayon kung nag-TNT ka doon sa ibang bansa, bakit kasalanan ng Pilipinas? In the first place pinayagan kanilang pumunta doon.
03:37.0
... What the Bureau of Immigration is doing here actually is abuse of power. Paalis, tao na ito at hindi bagahe. Hindi iniistriktuan ang pag-ales maliban sa pagkakaroon ng valid passport at visa kung kinakailan doon sa bansang pupuntahan mo at obligasyon ng bansang tumatanggap ng dayuhan na tanungin may hotel ka ba?
04:07.0
May insurance ka ba? Gaano katagal ka ba dito at kailang ka babulik?
04:12.0
Diba? Tama! It makes perfect sense. What's wrong with the Bureau of Immigration? Why don't they understand that? Ano tayong superhero? Pero sa pagiging superhero natin mga kabatas natin kasi pinoprotektahan natin yung ibang bansa.
04:35.0
Laban doon sa magti-TNT, sa human trafficking. We make victims out of our citizens. Ang daming biktima ng illegal offloading. That cannot be justified. Why? Because you're doing something wrong.
05:05.0
At hayaan natin yung bansa magtingin. Meron ka bang pambahid sa hotel? May kakayahan ka ba? Dahil bago sila iniiswa ng visa, tinignan at hiningi na lahat yan.
05:35.0
Nag-apply ka na ng visa, nag-grant ka na. Ibig sabihin pwede ka na pumunta doon. Bakit yung Bureau of Immigration natin dito pwedeng pumigil sayo?
06:05.0
Tignan nyo, 32,404 Filipinos ang offloaded dahil sa maling paraan ng inspection ng Bureau of Immigration. And wala pang isang libo sa tingin ko, if my memory serves me right. Ang tama na biktima nga ng human trafficking.
06:35.0
It dictates that these 32,404 and anyone who will be offloaded will be reimbursed insofar as their expenses chargeable against the immigration fees being collected.
06:48.0
Yan naman hindi ako approve dyan. Hindi ako approve dyan. Bakit? Kasi nga bakit doon sa maling ginagawa ng mga immigration officers, ng Bureau of Immigration, ang magsasuffer ay yung taxes ng Pilipino.
07:10.0
This is an ultra-virus act. Ano yung ultra-virus act? An act that is not performed in relation to your duty. Kasi nga sinabi ni Chief Escudero na hindi nyo karapatan, hindi nyo trabaho na mag-check ng mga ganyan, na i-offload sila dahil sa mga ganyang dahilan.
07:34.0
So ngayon bakit ang mananagot ay yung budget which actually are taxes of the Filipino people? Sabi ni MH, taong bayan ang magbabayad. Hindi dapat ganun. Ang magbabayad yung immigration officer, yung immediate officer niya tapos dapat matanggal sila sa trabaho.
08:04.0
Why? Because they're doing an ultra-virus act. It's not in line with their duty. Sabi ni Rikul, sa 100 na na-offload, 1 to 2 lang ang biktima. Isipin mo yun.
08:21.0
Hindi dapat tayo yung magbabayad. Sila kasi sila yung gumagawa ng mali. It should come out of their personal pockets. Lahat. Kasi mangyayari dyan, may interview. Pagkatapos kang interviewin, noong unang first interview mo, may second interview ka. Ngayon kung sino yung mga nag-interview sayo, tapos kung sino yung supervisor nila doon, dapat managot.
08:46.0
Kung hindi nila babagoy natatanggalin itong patakaran na yan, dapat ganun ang mangyari. Hindi pwede na yung taxes natin ang mananagot sa maling gawain nila because you are making the whole Philippines suffer.
09:16.0
That will hurt us, the Filipino people. It should come from their personal pockets because what they're doing is wrong.
09:39.0
They don't have those powers. Yan ang nakita ko dito. Contradiction kay Sen. Chis. Okay yung umpisa but they don't have those powers. So they don't have any power to exercise. Nakatulad ng sinasabi nyo dito.
10:09.0
There's no power to speak of. Saan galing yung kapangyarihan nila? Ito nga yung sabi ko. This is the logical thing to consider. Yung Department of Justice Secretary nga walang karapatan para mang offload o mang pigil ng tao na lumabas and the Supreme Court said that already.
10:36.0
How come yung kanyang tauhan na immigration officer na sobrang malayo sa kanya may karapatan para mang offload o kaya pumigil para bumiyahe ang isang tao? That by itself is absurd. Illogical.
10:56.0
Aside from this, sabi ni Mark Joseph, mas mataas pa sila sa korte. Exactly. Diba?
11:21.0
Hindi naman. Hindi naman automatic na discretion always is equal to corruption. Because like I said, yung mga judges natin, they have the discretionary power to grant someone bail kung reclusion perpetual to death at evidence of guilt is strong.
11:44.0
You cannot say naman automatically na that is equal to because there is a discretion that is equal to corruption. That's a sweeping statement. I guess dapat hindi sinasabi yung ganoon.
12:11.0
Discretion may invite corruption. Minimize discretion, I agree with that also. If you eliminate discretion, you don't necessarily eliminate corruption din kasi corruption mga kabatas natin, it comes in many forms.
12:38.0
Like for example, even if it is merely, ang kabaligtarang kasi ng discretionary yung ministerial. So kunwari kahit ministerial yung trabaho nyo, pwede ka parin makurap paano tinutulugan yung papel. Yung iba sinusuhulan para mabilis yung papel. Diba?
13:05.0
So yun to ko, why would they have discretion when in fact they were not given that power by any law?
13:35.0
Yung pera na diba? Anong binasa natin lately? Pati yung pera sa bangko, titignan nila kung sufficient ito na masatisfy yung pagtira mo sa ibang bansa. Wow! Wow!
13:53.0
Now whatever the reason may be, there is no proof and final decision that says that indeed this person uploaded will be engaged in prostitution or human trafficking.
14:02.0
Yan actually, depensa lang nila yan. Yung prostitution and human trafficking na yan, damage control na lang nila yan.
14:10.0
Because they are saying that we are trying to prevent a greater evil here when in fact to prevent that greater evil you've been doing a lot of evil things already.
14:21.0
Hindi rin maganda yan. It's better to do the right thing and do some mistakes along the way than make a lot of mistakes in trying to avoid an evil that you don't know if it really exists or not. Diba?
14:52.0
I don't agree with that also. Dapat sila, yung mga immigration officers, ang magbaya dyan.
14:59.0
Even for previous years, chargeable again from the fees collected by the Bureau of Immigration. I hope our President can lead us in so far as inserting that provision, the special provisions for the budget of the Bureau of Immigration is concerned for the 2024 national budget. Thank you.
15:16.0
Of course, that's also, if we cannot make any solutions for the moment, pwede naman yan. Pero that will hurt us in the long run. They keep committing wrong things. They are not being punished for it and we are being punished for it.
15:37.0
Pero I feel for the people who are offloaded. Yung mga na-offload, goods naman na mabayaran sila and I'm all for that. Pero we cannot maintain that in the long run. Ang laking pera ang mawawala sa atin.
15:51.0
Thank you Senator Skodero. Very good points indeed. Yan lang naman mga kapatid sa atin. I think I explained everything. I just want to highlight yung mga magagandang points na sinabi ni Senator Cheese Skodero doon.
16:08.0
Ang hindi ko lang gusto na sinabi niya ay yung i-charge yun sa taong bayan. I don't agree with that. Maraming salamat mga kapatid sa atin. At syempre, tulad ng laging sinasabi, matulog po tayo ng mahimbing dahil alam natin na yung natutulog ng mahimbing, siya yung laging panalo. Paalam po at sampai.
