BANAT BY TAKOT TATAY? | TRAFFIC VIOLATION IS A CRIME? FISCAL EJ X TAPWAN PALIWANAGAN
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Alright, yan magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa namang live stream.
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Mga kabatas natin, in fairness to Fiscal EJ and tulad ng sinabi ko, thank you Fiscal EJ for having this discussion with me.
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Pero dito sa dulo na ito, parang dinibank na yata ni Fiscal EJ po yung kanyang sarili.
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Well, tulad ng lagi kong ginagawa, I will answer point by point yung kanyang gustong ipasagot sa akin.
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Pero si Fiscal EJ hindi pa ako sinasagot doon sa ka-isa-isang tanong ko.
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Meron din namang iba pero ang pinaka-importanting tanong ko kasi doon sa niya kinuha doon sa road rage law, anti-road rage law,
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yung sinasabi niya na it must be, elemento ha, elemento ng anti-road rage law na it must be directed to other persons.
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Maganda rin kasi na malaman natin kung saan niya hinugot yun. Kung hinugot niya ba kay Banat Bay, pwede naman sabihin niya lang.
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Pero ito mga kabatas natin, bago tayo tumungo dito, I will lay down some matters first na in-admit ni Fiscal EJ dito.
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Tapos mga kabatas natin, doon sa mga nakakakilala, meron din hong content creator, vlogger, si Tapuan.
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Matagal ko na rin siyang kilala mga kabatas natin. Simula nung nagsisimula pa lang ako, nung mga sampu-sampu parang kami nandodoon hong siya doon sa aking free legal advice.
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And we're okay. Mayos naman kami sa isa't isa.
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Nag-question din siya. Kasi nga, itong si Tapuan mga kabatas natin, as his name implies, number one siya. Number one siya sa criminology board exam.
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Isa po siyang criminologist. So yung mga criminologist, syempre, marunong din yan sa crimes. Lalong-lalo na sa revised penal code.
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And syempre, nagtuturo rin siya ng ganon. At meron din siyang review center at isa rin siyang teacher.
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E-incorporate din natin dito yung kanyang mga katanungan sa akin at yung mga gusto niyang sagutin ko.
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Kasi nga, maganda rin kasi na linabas niya yung mga definitions ng mga bagay-bagay.
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Yung definition ng crime, acts or omissions punishable by law.
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Tapos, syempre, yung definition ng offenses.
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Ano ba ang offenses? Importante kasi yung offenses na yan. Ipapakita ko sa inyo mamaya.
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Ano ba ang offenses? Offenses are crimes or felonies. Felonies or crimes.
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Ang felony naman kasi mga kabatas natin, ito yung mga punishable by the revised penal code.
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I-correct nyo na lang ako pag nalito-lito ako. It's just all from memory.
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Pero pinanood ko yung kay Top One. Yun yung definition na sinabi niya.
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Pareho sila ng sinasabi ni Fiscal EJ. Merong fine.
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Yang fine na yan, that is a penalty. That is a punishment.
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Therefore, reckless driving, sabi nila, is a crime.
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Pero, I have to enlighten you guys.
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May tatlong klase ng liabilities.
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Civil liability, criminal liability, at administrative liability.
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Ngayon, umpisahan natin doon sa civil liability.
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Yung civil liability, mga kabatas natin, ito rin, kapag ikaw ay may liability civil,
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pwede rin kasing gumawa ka ng isang bagay na act or omission din.
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Umpisan natin sa act. Ano ba yung act? Gagawa ka ng isang bagay.
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Ang omission, hindi ka gagawa ng isang bagay.
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Pumunta tayo sa act. Kasi ang reckless driving ay isang act o paggawa ng isang bagay.
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Tingnan nyo ito, mga kabatas natin.
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Kunwari, merong ginawa kang breach of contract.
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Ang breach of contract is not a crime.
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But it is an overt act.
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O kaya kahit ano, naginawa mo mga kabatas natin.
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Pagkatapos nun, may binigay na punishment sa'yo yung korte.
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Binigyan ka ng punishment katulad ng exemplary damages.
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Ano ba ang exemplary damages?
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Ang exemplary damages, mga kabatas natin,
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binibigay yan ng korte sa isang tao para huwag niya nang ulitin yung ginagawa niya.
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At maging example siya sa ibang tao para hindi gayahin yung ginawa niya.
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So siyempre, ang exemplary damages, in a way, parusa na rin yan.
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Kasi it's in the form of money.
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Pero mga kabatas natin, that's only civil liability.
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Dito sa dalawa na susunod, mga kabatas natin, administrative at criminal liability,
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meron nang binigay sa atin si Fiscal EJ dito.
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Tingnan nyo yung number one.
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Pero huwag nyo munang pansinin ito.
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SC Citation, yes. Kung mali naman ang pagkakaintindi, wala pa rin.
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It will all resolve doon sa case na sinayt ko at ipapakita ko sa inyo.
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At magiging oo nga ng moment na naman para sa inyo ito kung bakit ginamit ko yung kasong yun.
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Kung bakit ginamit ko yung kasong yun.
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Tandaan nyo yung offenses. Lalabas yan doon sa SC Citation.
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Sabi niya, hindi porket fine lang ang penalty, eh hindi na siya crime.
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Basic yan sa criminal law that punishment for a crime can be either a fine or imprisonment of both such imprisonment and fine.
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I agree if you're talking about a crime.
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Pero mga kabatas natin, dito sa adenda niya, one of his addendums,
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dalawang klase ang fines sa reckless driving, administrative at criminal.
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Doon pa lang, tapos na.
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Because of course, if the fine is criminal in nature, it is in pursuant of a crime.
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If it is administrative in nature, it is in pursuant of an administrative liability.
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Okay, para hindi pa kayo makonfuse mga kabatas natin.
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Administrative cases, iba ang jurisdiction nila.
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Like for example, traffic violations in general.
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Hindi ha yung mga amounting to crime.
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Saan ba? LTO o kahit sino mang deputize the agency.
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Pero yung mga criminal in nature, like for example, reckless imprudence resulting in damage to property.
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Si fiscal EJ na mismo ang nagbigay ng kasagutan.
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This is an argument for me.
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Hindi na ini-enforce ng LTO ang criminal aspect ng violation dahil masyado ng maliit ang fine na nakalagay sa section 56L.
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10 to 50 pesos lang.
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I beg to disagree na ang, itong sinasabi niya kasi, section 56L 10 to 50 pesos lang, hindi ito yung fine na ngayon.
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Hindi rin ito yung applicable.
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Pero ito, ang sasabihin ko sa inyo.
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Hindi dito sa reckless driving na administrative lang, wala siyang criminal liability.
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It's only a fine.
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Tulad nga ng sinabi mo dito, administrative fine lang.
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Anong mangyayari ba dito?
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Mafafine siya dalawang beses?
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Administratively at saka criminally.
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Pero siyempre, sinabi niya rin dito na without prejudice to any criminal action that may be instituted under existing laws, that if there are any other violations.
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Pero here, we are talking only about reckless driving without causing damage or injuries.
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Kasi nga, kapag may damage or injuries na, pupunta na yan sa imprudence at negligence.
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Nag-agree na tayo doon, that is actually criminal in nature.
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Wala ng problema doon.
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Sige, balik tayo.
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Dito sa sinabi niya.
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Sabi niya, ito, tandaan niyo rin ito, hindi na ini-enforce ng LTO ang criminal aspect daw.
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So, ibig sabihin yung LTO magpa-file ng reckless diving as a criminal case para makakuha ulit ng fine na nakuha na nila?
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If it is not punished criminally, there's no way you can file it.
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Because there is no crime if there is no law punishing it.
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Tandaan niyo, we have the three kinds of liability.
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Even with procedure, civil procedure slightly differs from criminal procedure.
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More so, administrative procedure differs from civil and criminal procedure.
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So, balik tayo sa definition.
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Crime, acts or omissions punishable by law.
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Yes, if it is a crime under a criminal law system.
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But there are also acts or omissions that are punishable under administrative law and civil law.
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Otherwise, criminal ako.
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Because like I told you, I was given a ticket for reckless driving dahil nag-counterflow ako.
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Hindi naman counterflow.
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Pumasok ako sa isang eskenita na one-way pala dahil kay Wiggs.
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Tanong ko sa'yo panyero, magpa-file ka pa ba ng kaso sa piskalya kung alam mong ganito kaliit ang penalty?
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It explains why walang nakakasuhan ng reckless driving sa korte.
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That is also or this number 2 is the reason why I cited the case.
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Yung kaso na Cristobal.
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People of the Philippines vs Cristobal.
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Sandali, mayroon pala natin kung may...
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Itong number 2 nya kasi na ito, related din siya number 2 dito.
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Thank you for reminding me na dapat gumamit ng SC citations pero sorry, mali yung pagkakaintindi mo sa SC decision na si Knight po.
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Ang sabi ng SC, hindi na siya dapat inaresto pa not because the traffic violation he committed is not a crime but because his violation imposes only a penalty of fine.
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Ito rin, si top 1, nandiyan ba?
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Si fiscal EJ, ito rin ang ipapaintindi ko sa inyo.
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Wala kasing naipapile sabi niyo na reckless driving na kaso.
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Basic inference lang ito.
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San tayo magsisimula?
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It is clear from the above provision that a violation of the law requiring the use of helmets while driving a motorcycle is only punishable by fine.
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Is it possible that we can change this?
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It is clear from the above provision that a violation of the law requiring, or a violation of the law, reckless driving is only punishable by fine.
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Kasi reckless driving is only punishable by fine in the same Republic Act.
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Ngayon, dito ko ngayon.
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Doon tayo magkoconcentrate ngayon.
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I know, like I said, this is your oongano moment.
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When is there a lawful arrest?
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Arrest in flagrante delicto in relation to this case.
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Punta tayo dun sa website ko.
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Pero tama naman ito kung naglagay nito eh.
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Natatandaan niyo pa ba yung definitions natin?
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When is there a lawful warrantless arrest?
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Anong nangyari sa kaso na si Knight natin?
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Warrantless arrest, di ba?
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When in his presence, the person to be arrested that's committed is actually committing or is attempting to commit an offense.
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What is an offense?
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A crime or a felony.
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Oh my goodness, nandu-doon na naman yung word na offense.
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When an offense has just been committed and he has probable cause to believe.
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Palitan na lang natin yung offense.
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Kasi kasama yung felony dyan eh.
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Ipasok na lang natin.
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When in his presence, the person to be arrested that's committed is actually committing or is attempting to commit a crime.
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When a crime has just been committed and he has probable cause to believe based on personal knowledge of facts or circumstances that the person to be arrested has committed it.
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Let's go to the case.
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The case na sinasabi nyo na hindi ko naintindihan.
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Mas mataas lang yata ang level ng understanding ko.
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Because we can infer from here
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that there cannot be a lawful arrest
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As there was no, as there could have been any lawful arrest to speak of.
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Because what he committed is merely a traffic violation that is not a crime.
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Otherwise, kapag crime yung kinumit niya dito na is only punishable by a fine,
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it is tantamount to a crime.
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It is tantamount to a crime kahit sinasabi mo na mababa lang yung fine niya o hindi siya.
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Hindi siya pinupersonal prosecutor according to fiscal EJ's argument.
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Hindi lang pinupersonal prosecutor yan kasi ganito, ganito, ganito yung claims niya.
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And his argument, dapat valid pa rin yung arrest.
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Dapat valid pa rin yung arrest.
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Bakit hindi valid yung arrest?
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Kung itong fine na ito, it carries with it or it is a crime.
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Sabi ni Kayo, no lawful arrest to speak of, meaning not under the definition of crime.
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Otherwise, there should be a crime.
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So ngayon, ano ang tanong ngayon dyan?
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Ako ba yung hindi nakaintindi?
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O naintindihan ko ito on a different level na hindi niyo naintindihan?
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Because pagpapalitan natin lahat dito yung mga nangyari.
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If yung paghuli sa kanya na punishable only with a fine is indeed a crime katulad ng sinasabi nyo.
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Because traffic violation, this is also a traffic violation that is punishable under the same law.
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Which is also punishable by a fine.
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The same with reckless driving.
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If this is a crime, then dapat valid yung arrest.
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Bakit hindi valid yung arrest?
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Because there is no crime, there is no offense.
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There is no offense to speak of.
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Katula, babalik tayo sa admission na ni Fiscal EJ.
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Dalawang klase kasi ang fine sa reckless driving, administrative at criminal.
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Criminal cases, sa korte.
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Ito pa, balik tayo doon.
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Siyempre, alam ko naman.
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Hindi ko kasi nadidiscuss lahat kasi wala akong, lahat lang nasa utak ko.
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May mga nakikalimutan ako pero naalala ko na ulit.
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Under Republic Act 4136, that is the law that we are talking about or Land Transportation and Traffic Code,
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the general procedure for dealing with the traffic violation is not the arrest of the offender but the confiscation of the driver's license of the latter.
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Bakit driver's license of the latter?
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Because sinabi nga ni Fiscal EJ, it is administrative in nature.
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May fine ka because you are given the privilege.
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You are given the privilege to drive a motor vehicle.
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Ngayon, ngayon, for you to maintain that privilege,
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you have to abide by the rules and regulations.
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Laws in relation to maintaining that particular driver's license.
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Ngayon, pag-beniolate mo,
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yung mga binigay sa'yo ng batas para magkaroon ka ng privilege na yun,
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pwede kang makasuhan.
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Administratively.
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Katulad nung nangyari dun sa bumunot ng baril at kumasakasa,
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re-revoke yung driver's license niya, di ba?
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Because sinabi dun na may penalty ka.
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Administratively, pwede ma-confiscate yung driver's license mo o kaya ma-revoke yan.
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Because you cannot arrest them. Why?
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Because there is no crime to speak of.
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Otherwise, magiging valid yung warrant of arrest.
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Ang pwede mo lang gawin, ang max lang dyan, confiscation of the driver's license
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because it is under Republic Act 4136.
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Alam natin lahat, mga kabatas natin.
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Ako kasi mga kabatas natin, many times I applied for an international driver's license.
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Pag iba-ibang bansa, iba-iba yung paraan para makakuha ka ng international driver's license.
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Minsan dito sa AAAA, pwede na.
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Minsan meron ka pang kailangan gawin doon sa bansa na pupuntahan mo.
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Ngayon, we all know na ang ating traffic laws generally are the same all over the world.
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Ini-standardize dyan.
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Ini-standardize dyan. Bakit?
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Kasi nga, when people travel like me for example or like you when you go abroad,
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pare-pareho yung streetlights, pare-pareho yung mga batas para hindi ka na makonfuse.
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Tingnan nyo, what is the difference between civil and criminal traffic violation?
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This guy is a lawyer.
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Non-criminal offenses are referred to as civil infractions.
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Including speeding, failing to stop, or yield, improper turning, careless driving.
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Careless is synonymous to reckless driving.
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Okay, sasabihin nila, Amerika yan, hindi ang kasali.
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Oops, secondary sources of law.
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Diba? Gusto nyo pa? Okay, let's go. Hindi pa natin nasagot lahat.
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Ano pa ba yung nandoon?
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Yan, nasagot ko na ito.
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Magpa-file ka pa ba ng kasa sa piskilya kung alam mong kalihit ng penalty?
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Well, if it's still a crime, dapat.
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If you arrest them while they are doing a crime, it is a valid warrantless arrest.
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That's why I gave you that example.
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Tapos, yun din ang dahilan kung bakit walang reckless driving lang na kaso.
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It's because it is a mere administrative fine.
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It's an administrative case cognizable by the LTO or any agency that is deputized, not the court.
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Okay, at kung walang nakakasuan sa korte, that explains why sa buhay ko bilang piskal wala pa akong napoprosecute kasong reckless driving sa korte.
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Okay, wala ka pa. Meron ba tayong jurisprudence?
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Wala rin akong alam.
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Pero meron akong nakitang jurisprudence na yung pinakita ko sa inyo, based on inference magpapakita na it is not a crime because there is no valid arrest based on that particular traffic violation.
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Pero hindi ibig sabihin na hindi nag-iexist ang crime.
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There is no crime if there is no law punishing it.
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That particular penalty is an administrative penalty and not a criminal penalty.
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That's why you don't see it in the courts.
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Okay, hanggang hindi pa nari-repeal that continues to be a crime under Section 48 in relation to Section 56L and M of Republic Act 4136.
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Nasagot ko na yan.
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Okay, Supreme Court decision.
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That's very good inference.
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Eto pa, nakalagay sa mismong DOT sa Administrative Order 2014-01 na the imposition of administrative penalty without prejudice to any criminal actions that may be instituted under existing laws.
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Nasagot ko na ito.
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Yes, if it is again punishable by another.
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Merong special law.
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Without prejudice to any criminal actions.
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If there is a criminal action, pero if it is merely an administrative liability, it stays there.
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It does not transform into a criminal liability.
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Marami tayong alam na administrative fines.
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Napaparusahan ka, hindi dahil criminal ka.
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Because you violated an administrative order or an administrative law.
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But it is not criminal in nature.
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That's why you don't kulong.
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And you don't fine criminally.
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Para hindi ma-confuse ang viewers mo sinasabi mong fine, explain mo sa kanilang dalawang klase ng fines sa reckless driving.
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Well, I explained it to them already.
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Ang ginawa ni Fiscal EJ dito, sabi ko sa inyo hanggang dito lang noon yung sinabi niya.
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Nakita ko and naalala ko agad na ganito ko i-explain.
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The very reason, the very reason why I cited that case is to make a distinction of the two penalties of the two fines.
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That's the very reason there.
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Now it's clear, maliwanag na sa lahat.
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Si Fiscal EJ mismo umamin.
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Dalawang klase ng fine.
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Ah dito, sa mga ano nyo dito.
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Nakalagay daw dito na may mapepenalize daw dito sa, syempre, well, resolution to the Supreme Court.
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Violations of traffic laws, rules and regulations.
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Pero nag-agree na tayo eh.
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Na merong traffic laws which are criminal in nature but not reckless driving by itself.
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Because it's merely a fine.
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And it is an administrative fine.
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Let's go back to the case na hindi ko naiintindihan.
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Naiintindihan nyo na ba kung bakit yun ang sinight ko na hindi siya pwedeng arestuhin?
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Kasi nga, it presupposes for a person to be arrested, he should have committed a crime.
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There was no crime there. That's why the arrest was illegal.
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You just have to go back to the definition of warrantless arrest.
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Tapos three types of liability, administrative, civil, at criminal.
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Diba? Gets na? O meron pa yata sya dito.
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Meron syang linagay dito. Para tama ba yung narinig ko sa'yo?
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Sabi niya ulit. Saan ba yun?
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Ito. Tama ba sabi niya yung narinig ko na traffic violation is not a crime?
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Well, in this particular traffic violation, we are talking about reckless driving.
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Pag titignan mo kasi yung sinabi mo doon, reckless driving. Pinaliwanan ko naman na yun kanina.
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So, malinaw na lahat.
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Malinaw na. Diba?
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Malinaw na. Diba?
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Even jurisdictions in other countries, when it comes to traffic violations, dual.
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Dalong klase ng fine. Sa America, civil. Civil infraction ang tawag sa kanila.
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Diba? Okay na! Yan!
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I think I answered everything na. Ngayon fiscal EJ, meron pending ako sa'yo.
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Dalong beses na ako sinagot lahat ng mga tanong mo. Sagutin mo naman yung tanong ko.
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Kahit isa na lang in relation to this one. Saan mo kinuha?
31:09.5
Saan mo kinuha yung element mo sa anti-road rage proposed bill kung saan kailangan yung cursing, yung pagmumura, should be directed towards another person?
31:27.5
Pakita mo lang sa amin yung proposed bill, tapos turun mo kung saan doon.
31:35.5
Yun lang. That's the only way to do it.
31:37.5
Okay? Yan! Maraming salamat mga kabatas natin.
31:41.5
Intendance? Administrative, civil, at criminal.
31:46.5
Alright? Maraming salamat. At syempre tulad ng lagi ko sinasabi, matulog po tayo ng mahimbing.
31:52.5
Tuloy ba debate? Tuloy yung debate.
31:55.5
Dahil alam natin, na yung natutulog ng mahimbing, siya yung lagi yung panalo.
32:00.5
Paalam po. Padsamuntan.
