TPKP 156: Fiscal EJ Fabriga | PART 3: Atty. Libayan Drama + What is a LAWYER?
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Wala akong aura of superiority.
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How do I call this? Superiority, parang gano'n.
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Because ang belief ko kasi, Sir Comicsman, marami akong matututunan even from those who are not lawyers.
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Like you, ang dami kong natutunan sayo.
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Kay Melo, sa ibang tao, sa mga...
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So wala talaga akong aura of superiority if you see me.
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And actually, when I first met you on Zoom when we were having a dry run,
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and for you to...
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Nung nalaman ko that you are asking Melo to help you out, parang...
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You have the humility.
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Because that's what I see in it.
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Di ba yung iba...
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Like I said, people are mocking you for doing it.
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They think na parang...
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Yung iba pa nga parang ang dating e.
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Parang nandadaya ka.
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Tapos parang, eh kasi ano siya e.
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Ano ba nangyaring?
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Paano ba naging bandalaya yun?
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Wala namang nakalagay na hindi sila pwedeng gawin ng sariyan na gawin nila yun themselves.
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Pwede din naman sila magkaroon.
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Kailan naging bandalaya or dirty tactics yung dry run?
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Wala naman akong inargabiadong tao in so far as preparing for the debate is concerned.
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If you think na hindi mo...
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Kung hindi mo ginawa, if you chose not to do it, then that's on you.
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And considering that this is an online debate,
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this is my first time to engage in an online debate.
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So, hindi talaga ako marunong sa mga teke-teke na ganyan.
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Ngayon lang ako naka-encounter...
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Ngayon ko lang nalaman na meron palang stream yard.
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Parang ang naisip ko kasi...
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I have not tried going live on YouTube.
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So, everything is new to me.
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So, kaya I asked Melo to help me.
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I asked you na if you can assist me in preparation for this debate.
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Fruit of our labor.
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And I am very proud to be part of this...
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Of this endeavor.
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Tapos kaya hindi ko...
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Why can't you just be gracious?
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It's so disappointing.
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When you did your thank you note.
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It was so respectful.
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You're not even gloating.
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You were not even gloating.
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Wala. Wala akong ganyan.
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When you could have easily.
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You could have easily.
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And that's why I'm very...
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They have portrayed the guy to be an idiot.
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Yung ang ginawa nilang ano eh.
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Nung hindi ko pa siya kilala.
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He was really portrayed as somebody na parang...
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Parang outcast siya na parang...
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Ang description ko nga sa kanya is like a heretic na ketongin.
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Na parang madumi ka.
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Just being associated with him.
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Just mentioning the name.
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Just mentioning that you have seen his videos.
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Na parang tanga ka na.
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Ganon ang pagkakaportray nila kay Melo Yap.
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Nung nakilala ko siya.
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He's so far from that.
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Aside from being a fun guy.
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Kasi nakakatawa talaga si Melo Yap eh.
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Kaya ako nanood sa kanya.
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Kasi nakakatawa siya.
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Recently ko lang naman nakakausap eh.
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I've talked to him most...
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Just because of this debate.
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Kasi parang uh...
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I wanted to be part of the fiscal EJ team.
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And since si Melo yung nag-organize.
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Then I was also all in.
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And wala rin akong ibang mahingi ng tulong.
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Mahinga ng tulong.
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By force of circumstances.
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And because uh...
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The guy also was willing to help me out.
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Saan naman ako pupunta?
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Siya yung nagpasubo sakin eh.
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Dapat lang natulungan niya ako.
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Is Melo the nicest person in the world?
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Is he the smartest person in the world?
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To say that he is the evil person.
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That they are trying to make him appear.
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I don't think he is.
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We all have skeletons in our closet.
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So lahat tayo may mga pagkakamali.
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Nagkataon lang talaga na si Melo yung dumating sa buhay ko.
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Nagbahamak sakin.
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Kaya ako napunta sa debate.
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It's also a testament of yung demagoguery na sinasabi ko.
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Kung ano lang yung sabihin ko, ito na yun.
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Na parang meron kang certain agenda.
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And you would say anything.
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Para lang ma-reinforce.
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At makaratingin ka dun sa objective na gusto mo.
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And that is so sad.
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Do I know Meloya fully?
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Hindi ko alam kung ano pang ginagawa ng tao.
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Pero based on what he showed me.
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And how he carried himself.
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Especially in helping out in this debate.
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He did very well.
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What's the right word to use?
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Siguro very honorable fashion.
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And very respectable.
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Tama na ang pagpapapuri ko sayong Meloyap ka.
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Eto, matatawang sa siguro to.
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Sige, sige, sige.
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Meron pa akong adud dito.
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Isang magandang tanong siguro.
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So you are now...
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So are you planning to...
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Kasi you have your YouTube channel already.
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Are you planning to expand it?
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Or do other content?
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Aside from your usual supplemental videos?
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I have not decided yet.
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Although I am entertaining that thought na...
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Siguro hindi lang siguro supplemental content lang.
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But siguro magbablog ako more often.
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Para masanay naman ako sa pagkikipag-usap.
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Parang conversational na pag-uusap ba?
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So mahihain kasi ako eh.
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Meron mga comments akong nababasa.
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Instead of commenting on the issue.
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Yung physical na aspeto ng mga katao mo.
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Yung binabash nila ba?
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And alam mo ang pinakang masama dito kasi is...
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Yung mga nangbabash.
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Are just following talking points from people.
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Dun sa mga kampon.
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Kampon ang tawag ko sa inyo.
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Parehas ang sinasabi eh.
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Pag merong isang magsasabi dun.
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Strawman! Strawman!
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Makikita mo yung lahat ng ano.
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Strawman! Strawman daw!
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Strawman daw yung argument mo.
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I'll answer this question.
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This issue na lang.
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What led to this debate, Sir Comixman?
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What was said prior to this debate?
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So everything that was said about age of sexual consent,
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should be the topic of the debate.
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Kasi pag nilimit mo lang yung topic ng debate
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to what is said during the actual debate,
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Parang ang pangit naman nun.
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Parang limited lang yung pwede mong itanong.
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And also, mawawala yung actual reason.
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These are the things you said.
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Naka-video nga eh.
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Ayan yung mga sinabi mo eh.
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Ba't hindi mo pa kaya pangatawanan yung sinabi mo?
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Pangatawanan mo yung sinabi mo.
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Kasi naka-video ka eh.
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And now that it is brought up,
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and now biting you in the ass,
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Ikaw pa yung galit.
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Ikaw pa yung magsasabi na below the belt.
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When you were below the belt in the first place,
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kaya nga nangyari itong debate na to.
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Kaya nga tensions were high
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because of those kinds of comments from yours.
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Tapos magtataka ka when it's brought up,
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kaya siya naggagalit
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kasi napapahiya siya eh.
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Gano'n siya kagago.
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Ang sakin lang is,
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I brought it up because I want to
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let the people know na
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mali yung ganyan na labeling.
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hindi naman siya so far off from the topic on AOSC
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kasi ang sabi niya kasi is
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yung mga nagsasabi nun,
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yung mga naniniwala na
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16E yung AOSC are pedophiles.
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So, hindi siya strawman in the sense na
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that is still related to our topic
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what led to this debate
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are those things that he said
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and I guess the people who believe
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who have an opposite belief as his.
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And that's, ano eh?
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Tawag dun, false equivalency yung ginagawa niya eh.
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Sasabi niya, strawman ka.
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Anong basihan niya to say?
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Na automatic pedophile, di ba?
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Just because di ba yung age na tingin mo
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tapos nasa batas?
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At the end of the day, Sir Comicsman is
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hindi naman nakita ng judges na strawman yun
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gave me a 3-0 verdict.
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That's what matters to me
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at the end of the day na
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yung mga justices, no?
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They believed in the evidence that I presented
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and they were convinced
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that indeed, under current law
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the age of sexual consent is 16
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and para sa akin, yun yung important na
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napaniwala ko yung mga jurado natin.
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Yes, that's the only important thing in this debate.
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Kasi debate eh, debate.
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an intellectual contest between two people na
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kung ano yung mas kapanipaniwala
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yung arguments niya
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or yung arguments ko.
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So luckily, I succeeded.
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Maybe it's because they were hoping
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that this will turn out to be parang
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oh, walang nanalo.
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Kasi yun na sinasabi nila eh.
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Wala daw mananalo.
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Sinasabi nila ang mananalo would be
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kasi narinig nilang nagdebate.
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May dalawang abogado nagdebate.
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Pero empirically speaking,
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mayroon talagang tama at mali
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doon sa issue na to.
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Kasi it is what's written in the law.
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Yun ang pinagdebate yan.
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Eto na lang, Sir Comicsman.
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Sila yung nag-organize.
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Sana hindi nalang sila nagkuhan ng judges
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para talagang sure na walang mananalo,
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I had no say whether meron judges or wala.
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Sila yung nag-decide kung
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dapat bang may judges.
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Sila pa nga yung nag-decide na
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dapat may talungan portion.
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Hindi ko nga alam nun eh.
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So, parang days before,
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doon ko lang nalaman na
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meron palang talungan portion
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So, okay lang sakin.
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We were talking about this.
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Na parang takang-taka tayo.
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Ano ba talagang mangyayari?
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We're not even sure kung matutuloy nga eh.
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That was days before.
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Sure naman ako na matutuloy.
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Wala akong say kung meron bang judges or wala.
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Wala akong say kung meron bang judges,
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kung sino yung mga judges.
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kung gusto pala nila na walang mananalo,
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then sana hindi na lang sila nagkuha
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Ang pinapalabas kasi ngayon
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Ikaw pa daw yung nasunod.
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Galit na galit siya.
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Hindi ko na pinapanood yung channel niya
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kasi it's useless.
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Tapos na ang debate.
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why would I still
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give him the space?
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how shall we call this?
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Or cater to his complaints,
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or cater to his critique
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about what happened in the debate.
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Kung para sa akin,
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There's nothing more to debate upon
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dahil settled na.
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ano pa bang iproove ko?
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nagko-complain siya dun sa mga nagko-comment.
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Social media dun.
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Nasa YouTube kayo.
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Nagko-complain siya na
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mayroong mga sinasabi si Melo.
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Kung kayo yung nanalo,
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kung ano-ano pang pinagsasabi nyo eh.
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Di lalo na kung nanalo kayo.
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ako yung mababash.
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Ako yung masasubject
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Kaya nag-prepare talaga ako na
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I don't want to be in that position.
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Kaya tayo nag-rehearse.
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Kaya tayo nag-dry run.
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Kaya tayo nag-research.
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hindi ko nang kasalanan yun kung
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ako yung pinili ng mga horado.
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Well, apparently that is
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way too much for him to understand.
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And way too proud to accept defeat.
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makikita mo sa title,
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Pero ang dami niyang,
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Ang dami niya pang,
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about being a champion of the children.
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may mga ganun ng ano niya eh.
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Parang wala ka nabang kahihiyan talaga.
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Ako bahala na siya
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kung ano yung sabihin niya
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dyan sa channel niya.
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As much as possible,
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it is a non-issue for me.
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Kahit paano sabihin niya,
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I can understand him,
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mahirap naman talaga na
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you have such a huge following
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You have been looked up to
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by your subscribers,
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by your followers,
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especially when it comes to
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talaga namang ano eh,
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mahirap din na pag natalo ka
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sa isang intellectual exercise
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na dalawa kayong lawyers
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tapos merong jurado,
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tapos ang verdict ng jurado
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tapos panalo yung kalaban mo.
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I can understand the frustration
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hurt bang matatawag dun,
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ini-ignore ko na lang,
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ini-ignore ko na lang
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kung ano ba yung,
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kung ano pa ba yung,
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sinasabi niya sa channel niya?
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graciousness is not in his,
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in his arsenal of,
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of characteristics.
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pag in-upload mo na ito,
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eco-content siguro niya ito.
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pinapanood natin siya,
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sumisilip lang ako eh,
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pero hindi ko na talaga ma,
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it's so pathetic.
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It is so pathetic.
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nagyayabang-yabang pa siya na,
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ganito ang gawin natin,
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makikita natin kung sino,
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kung bakit yung confidence na inaano niya eh,
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when it comes to debate night,
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balik siya sa paikipagdebate sa video.
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Nung napalaban siya ng tunay na debate,
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parang defending YouTube champion of debating videos yung sibutihin eh.
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butihin sa pagiging debate,
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video debating champion.
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I have a world outside YouTube,
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so hindi ako affected talaga.
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it's just an intellectual exercise,
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siya yung naghamon,
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Siya yung naghamon na magdebate kami,
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I accepted the challenge,
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I came out the winner,
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everything is fair and square.
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kung may reklamo sila sa content ko,
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kung ano paman yun,
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hindi yung kinonsidered ng judges.
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Yung judges were unanimous in saying na,
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mas ako yung kapanipaniwala sa ebidensya na iprinisent ako.
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And I was able to prove to these justices
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that the age of sexual consent is 16
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and that's what matters to me.
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So, kung yung mga followers niya is galit na galit sa akin
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dahil strawman daw,
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I really don't care.
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you've been eating,
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you've been having death threats for breakfast for so long.
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Sigurado ba kayo?
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That's just a small matter.
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Wala akong ano dyan.
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Hindi talaga nakaka-affect sa akin,
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to be honest with you.
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Actually, sa akin din.
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Kahit araw-araw ilang linggo
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mag-content niyang si Butihin tungkol sa akin.
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Kasi ang sinasabi ko,
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Everything I said stands on its own.
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Kung anong gusto mong idagdag dyan,
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bali-balikuin mo yung interpretation mo dun sa sinabi ko,
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hindi ko problema yun.
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Kung gusto mong...
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I don't care kung paano mong interpret
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itong mga pinagsasabi ko ngayon.
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Kasi my ideas are intact.
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you can disagree,
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you can say I'm wrong,
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but my ideas are here.
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And you can just...
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last question ah,
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more than two hours na siguro tayo dito.
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Wag na natin yung ibang dito,
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tanggalin na natin.
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Ito na lang siguro,
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as an ending, no?
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Describe what a healthy Philippine...
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describe what a Philippine society
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with a healthy justice system
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ang bigat ng tanong mo,
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what I'm thinking about this is yung
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literacy of Filipinos in general
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about legal matters,
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about how the government works
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and how the justice system
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I'm a pretty well read
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and inform person.
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Pero I still don't know a lot.
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I ask questions that are stupid
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To somebody who's knowledgeable
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about your profession.
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Mas mahirap pa yung tanong mo
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kesa doon sa debate.
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Parang at this hour,
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tapos yung mga tanong mo
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parang ang bigat,
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parang ang lalim.
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hindi ko mahanapan
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kung saan ako magumpisa.
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Hindi nila kaya mag-spread
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na ma-educate ang tao
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a great way for lawyers
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to be content creators
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na hindi lang sila
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mag-depend sa government
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in helping educate
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the populace about the law.
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So like itong ginagawa ko,
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ang primary purpose ko
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is to help my students
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para na rin nakakatulong ako
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doon sa mga taong
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hindi law students
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kasi they are also able
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to watch my videos
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or my supplemental videos
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Do you wish more people
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There should be more lawyers
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who are content creators
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in spreading the law.
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Government should also provide
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free access to the internet
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para mas lalong maraming taong
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mag-involve sa sarili nila
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So I suppose that's why
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for na matuto talaga, no?
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And like yung about YouTube,
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about lawyer content creators,
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of course, we want that, diba?
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Of course, we want
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if it is done correctly, diba?
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with no other agendas,
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well, if it's not done
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for any other purpose,
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but to, well, of course,
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if you can make it entertaining
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and as watchable as possible, diba?
26:51.6
Pero if you are resorting
26:53.1
to magko-content ka
26:58.2
ng mga viral videos
27:02.8
na mga sensationalized
27:04.0
and then have whack takes about it
27:09.1
nagkakaroon talaga ng problema.
27:17.1
if there are lawyers
27:18.8
who cannot refrain from that,
27:21.9
kasi parang skinang yan, diba?
27:23.9
Merong nakaka-entice na parang shit
27:26.2
when you get likes,
27:27.4
when you get subscribers,
27:28.8
when you get the money.
27:29.5
Siguro may plan siguro, Sir Comixman,
27:32.7
is to be involved more in vlogging,
27:36.4
but yung mga content ko siguro
27:40.0
is purely about the law parin.
27:45.6
So I still would want to refrain
27:48.5
from commenting on current events
27:51.6
kasi hindi rin appropriate sakin
27:57.7
as a government official
28:02.1
to make comments on current issues
28:07.1
sino anong isang personal
28:08.8
Meron naman yes to take
28:14.1
an English person
28:20.5
it could be fighting
28:24.1
like archival evidence
28:25.3
or something like that.
28:25.4
And I can agree too
28:34.7
you and your courage
28:38.4
because like I said
28:50.1
on a public stage
28:54.5
And not a lot of lawyers
28:57.2
are willing to do it.
29:01.2
ang tagal na nung
29:04.3
challenge ni Butihin
29:11.8
you had the courage
29:17.9
pagdedebatehan dito?
29:31.3
although you still get it
29:35.6
I think it is courageous
29:46.6
interacting with you
29:47.8
dun sa mga sessions natin
29:53.7
a very respectable
29:54.7
and honorable man
30:07.2
what is your last
30:09.8
last say for this episode?
30:29.0
I forgot to mention
30:33.8
ng Usap-Usap University?
30:38.4
I forgot to mention his name
30:42.7
the debate format
30:54.6
help me out on it
30:55.8
he helped me with that
30:58.3
and then he gave me a format
30:60.0
na yun din yun ang sinabmit ko dun sa
31:04.4
And the other side also
31:05.9
was gracious enough to
31:10.4
agree on the debate format
31:14.8
useful debate format for
31:17.6
debates like this, no?
31:18.8
Yung Lincoln-Douglas
31:20.2
auto-modified lang yun.
31:27.0
I forgot to thank him.
31:28.0
And of course, no?
31:29.2
To the people who support me
31:32.4
to the people who hate me
31:35.2
no matter what you say against me
31:38.5
you are just wasting your saliva, no?
31:41.7
You are just wasting your time
31:43.6
typing on the keyboard
31:46.4
things that are not good, no?
31:49.4
I really don't care
31:51.8
with respect to those people who support me
31:53.6
thank you so much.
31:56.2
So good luck na lang sa ating lahat.
32:00.8
nothing has changed for me
32:02.6
no matter what people say na
32:09.3
Medyo celebrity ka na lang konti
32:12.4
nationwide yung viewing ng debate, no?
32:16.0
para sa akin wala pa rin.
32:19.1
Nothing has changed.
32:19.9
Nothing has changed, no?
32:21.2
So ganun pa rin, no?
32:22.0
Mahihain pa rin ako sa social media
32:24.4
kahit nga ngayon, Sir Comicsman
32:26.8
you can see na medyo
32:27.8
I am having difficulty
32:28.9
conveying my thoughts
32:29.8
kasi parang nahihiya talaga ako.
32:32.1
What do you think you need to do
32:37.6
yung frequency ng
32:41.1
I can help you with that, Piskal.
32:42.6
I would be your online student
32:45.3
anytime you need me.
32:47.4
Turuan mo ako about batas
32:52.1
para bumait naman ako.
32:59.6
Turuan mo takot sa batas
33:11.4
Maraming salamat.
33:11.9
Congratulations for your
33:13.6
tremendous victory
33:16.7
to Ator ni Libayan
33:24.4
it's embarrassing.
33:27.0
it's really embarrassing
33:28.3
already at this point.
33:34.8
anong magagawa natin?
33:42.5
accepting the challenge.
33:43.4
You're welcome, sir.
33:47.1
I also felt I had to do it
33:50.0
because I had to stand up for
33:52.9
should be the proper
33:53.7
interpretation of the law.
33:56.0
Yun lang yung purpose ko.
33:57.7
Not for fame or anything.
34:16.7
we can do this again
34:19.0
sometime in the future.
34:20.5
whenever you need my help
34:25.2
Kuro, magde-debate ako.
34:26.4
Yung next debate ko
34:29.9
Kasi parang may gustong bumawi eh.
34:36.0
mga gustong bumawi.
34:37.2
Ano bang condition mo?
34:41.2
Wala akong condition.
34:45.0
I have nothing to prove.
34:50.8
bat ko pa gagawin ulit yan?
34:53.2
Siguro magdebate muna sa
35:02.7
Kasi I heard, siguro
35:08.5
I'm not sure, no.
35:10.3
5 versus 1 daw gusto eh.
35:16.8
someone texted me
35:17.9
and meron daw siyang
35:18.9
bagong Hamon sa akin.
35:20.0
I don't know what
35:29.6
problema niya na yun.
35:34.7
kung debate yung Hamon niya
35:37.0
magdebate muna siya
35:39.8
Tapos pag-iisipan mo na lang.
35:42.3
Tapos pag-iisipan ko
35:45.6
ako na makipagdebate sa kanya
35:47.1
pag nanalo siya sa ampalayagang.
35:54.3
Hindi kasi ano eh.
35:56.0
What's the purpose of debating again?
36:02.8
ng debate na naman sa akin.
36:04.6
What's the purpose?
36:06.7
Just to prove his point
36:07.7
na mas magaling siya?
36:10.7
Yung purpose ko lang
36:12.8
To prove that the AOSC is 16.
36:15.2
ano pa ba ang pagdebatehan?
36:19.3
walang katapusan?
36:21.2
Sasabihin niya na
36:23.7
he was not there to win?
36:26.4
someone told me na
36:28.7
na he was not there to win.
36:31.3
ano pa bang purpose mo
36:32.0
pag nakipagdebate ka?
36:34.4
A debate is a contest.
36:36.8
Kaya nga may judges.
36:38.4
sila nga ang nag-decide
36:39.2
na dapat may judges.
36:41.9
na he was not there to win.
36:44.4
what kind of thinking is that?
36:48.1
I was there to win
36:49.0
because I don't want to lose.
36:57.7
and then there's nothing more
37:02.8
Siguro sa iba pwede
37:06.0
tapos na ang boxing.
37:12.0
Sana kung nakaisaman lang
37:23.7
there's no more reason to
37:32.0
In fairness to him
37:35.3
pag ganyan yung ginagawa niya
37:37.8
hinahamon niya naman ako
37:42.2
It's ego already.
37:48.8
kung ano yung purpose niya
37:50.9
na mas magaling siya
37:55.3
siya yung naghamon kasi
37:56.4
siya yung naghamon
37:57.2
I took up the challenge
38:01.3
I came out the winner
38:03.3
Ano po ba ang gagawin ko?
38:06.1
Tutulungan ko siya
38:09.3
mabigyan siya ng chance na
38:11.1
manalo siya sa debate
38:13.7
Why would I do that?
38:17.5
Obviously he cannot
38:20.0
with the consequences of his actions
38:23.0
Even the words that he says
38:28.8
Ano yun to the consequence now
38:30.5
again coming back to bite him in the ass
38:33.0
tapos ngayon magagalit siya
38:35.4
I'm saying all this
38:36.6
I'm saying all this
38:39.7
meron siyang sinabihan
38:40.7
na naghamon siya to a debate
38:45.8
Kung wala namang hamon
38:46.8
so I'm taking back my words
38:48.7
but kung naghamon na naman siya ulit
38:54.3
It's too childish
38:59.1
with that kind of challenge
39:09.1
Anong ano bang effect doon?
39:10.7
They will call me takot?
39:13.1
Ako pang nanalo takot na
39:20.3
Ano na lang yan eh
39:24.2
Like yung sinasabi niya na
39:27.1
I think that's fetish already
39:29.1
Parang borderline fetish na yun eh
39:33.1
Gayo't ako kagaling
39:34.0
Tapos makikita yung muka niya
39:37.7
Makikita mong ini-imagine niya eh
39:39.6
Na parang I am this
39:49.9
na walang makakatalo sa akin
39:56.3
na pinapalibutan ng kaaway
39:57.9
tapos bugbug niya lahat
40:01.1
Yung point lang kasi is
40:03.7
Admitted naman yan
40:04.6
na siya yung naghamon
40:06.4
I took up the challenge
40:08.8
He got the opportunity
40:11.4
He lost that opportunity
40:14.1
Nawala ng repeat performance
40:16.0
Bakit pa ako magde-debate?
40:18.4
Ano pa bang iproove ko?
40:19.7
I have already proven myself
40:23.6
Ako yung nanalo sa debate
40:29.0
Kung may problema sila
40:33.9
Yes, they should siguro write
40:35.5
They should siguro write
40:36.3
a letter to the judges
40:38.3
Tell the judges na si Fiscal
40:39.9
dapat hindi manalo
40:40.8
dahil nag-strawman
40:42.9
You should change your verdict
40:44.0
dahil nag-strawman si Fiscal
40:47.9
I think that's what they should do
40:49.5
to question the verdict of the judges
40:53.2
Kahit nagawin pa nila yun
40:54.4
I really don't care
40:55.2
Kahit na i-reverse pa ng judges
40:58.8
Okay lang sa akin
40:59.6
I don't even believe it's a strawman
41:01.9
It's not strawman
41:06.6
the history of the debate
41:08.1
and that was your initial
41:11.5
When they say strawman
41:12.5
ina nalang nila yun eh
41:14.3
Kinopia lang nila yun
41:16.0
propagandist nila eh
41:17.9
na talking point eh
41:19.8
Sabihin natin strawman
41:21.5
Kasi nakikita ko yun dun sa
41:24.9
what led to this debate
41:26.1
is everything that has been said
41:31.1
and everything has been
41:32.4
everything that has been said
41:33.5
against the people who believe
41:37.8
which is contrary to his belief
41:39.7
that the AOSC is 18
41:43.5
Hindi naman ako ang nagsabi na pedophile
41:45.6
Siya naman ang nagsabi nun na
41:47.8
lahat ng mga naniniwala
41:50.9
na 16 ang AOSC are pedophiles
41:55.1
Ang lesson dito, Atty. Libayan
41:57.5
Ang lesson dito, Atty. Libayan
42:00.0
mag-ingat ka sa mga pinagsasabi mo
42:02.7
para wala kang sisisihin
42:04.2
pagdating ng araw
42:06.7
Tama ba talaga yun?
42:07.7
Masabihin mong bobo
42:11.8
Pag-isipan mo yun
42:16.4
gagawa ka ng false dichotomy
42:21.2
tapos sabihin mong stromal
42:22.6
what a lame excuse
42:23.5
Someone told me na
42:28.7
or another term na ginamit
42:33.7
Pero pag ikaw yung nagsabi na
42:38.6
Mali yun below the belt
42:48.0
yung propagandist nila
42:49.1
yung chief propagandist nila
42:51.4
mag call out ng mga
42:53.9
Hindi mo call out yung mga fallacies mo
42:57.4
You wanna talk fallacies?
42:59.1
Double standards yun
43:05.2
Yun ang mga ginagawa niya
43:14.2
Tapos yung ad hominems
43:17.0
Yung mga sinasabi
43:19.5
Sino ang naniniwala
43:21.3
na hindi nag ad hominem
43:23.2
si Atty. Libayan?
43:31.2
Yung propagandist niya
43:35.7
na parang papaniwalaan mo
43:41.3
ang sasabihin nalang
43:42.2
si Melo lang yung naga
43:48.6
Kasi ako si Comixman
43:50.6
I have no personal agenda
43:56.8
na enjoy ko lang yung
44:03.3
I get to discuss issues
44:04.8
I get to talk about the law
44:08.5
walang personalan sa akin
44:16.1
I don't see the point
44:22.9
yung sinabi ko dati
44:24.7
this is the arena of ideas
44:28.8
ako wala naman akong
44:30.3
wala naman akong gustong
44:36.6
dun si Atty. Libayan
44:38.2
dati nga kinampihan ko pa sila eh
44:40.2
kinakampihan ko pa yan dati
44:41.5
kasi ayoko nung mga
44:42.4
nagde-demanda sa social media
44:46.8
freedom of speech advocate
44:49.9
kasi pag nagano ka
45:03.8
magbabanta ka siya
45:07.8
ganun ka rin pala
45:13.4
pagtatanggol ko sa kanya
45:25.0
has come to a close
45:36.8
so whatever he says
45:40.3
I really don't care anymore
45:46.3
ilang buwan pa akong i-content
45:48.5
dun sa channel niya
45:51.0
publicity naman yun eh
45:54.6
i-mention niya ako
45:58.1
yung ganit sinabi ko eh
46:25.7
it has come to a close
46:32.7
is because of you
46:34.5
the friends I have
46:41.8
I continue rather to
46:48.0
supplemental contents ko
46:49.8
pero masaya din naman
47:01.3
magaling kayo sa vlogging
47:05.0
you talk for hours
47:08.2
hindi ko magawa yan
47:09.4
parang naubusan ako ng
47:14.3
hanggang ano lang
47:15.0
hanggang content content lang ako
47:16.3
hanggang ano lang
47:18.2
I'll go back to my shell
47:22.2
I'll go back to my shell
47:23.7
Actually ako naman
47:24.7
di naman dibayan yung mga content ko talaga
47:27.9
na pag-usapan lang namin siya
47:31.8
kakasama yung kay Tulfo
47:33.6
pero nasita lang namin siya
47:40.2
may sinabi kaming
47:42.5
hindi pabor sa kanya
47:43.9
tapos tuloy tuloy siya
47:48.9
nagiging example siya
47:50.2
para dun sa mga fans na rabid
47:55.1
more important stuff
47:58.3
yung mga gender ideology
48:01.8
mga trending topics
48:04.1
yung mga sexuality
48:06.1
yun ang mga topics namin
48:08.8
geopolitical shit
48:11.8
kasi why would you
48:12.9
why would we waste time
48:16.7
it doesn't make sense
48:18.2
for grown men to do so
48:33.0
i'm very happy to
48:36.5
we can call each other
48:41.0
we meet each other
48:43.8
one of these days
48:56.7
thank you for the effort
48:57.8
and congratulations
49:01.8
dapat sinama mga kumeli
49:08.6
ang palayagang na sinasabing
49:09.8
na mga tropa-tropa
49:21.5
sino bang nag-hug
49:27.8
ang palayagang eh
49:29.4
huwag niyang tatanggapin yun eh
49:37.6
sa akin okay lang
49:38.6
kung tawagin niya
49:42.7
freedom of speech
49:46.5
before the debate
49:53.3
fiscal sa totoo lang
49:55.4
Actually ako ang nag-suggest
49:58.2
invite si Niko David
50:05.9
kung ano yung dating
50:37.0
like I said earlier
50:42.2
yun ang nagpapagulo
50:45.2
actually yun ang nagpapagulo
50:46.6
kung wala kang namang
50:51.9
hindi na kailangan
50:53.7
hindi na kailangan
50:57.4
siya lang naman ang gumagawa
51:02.8
pakialam ko ba sa kanya
51:07.0
kasi silang dalawa
51:07.8
lang naman talagang
51:13.2
umano ka na nga e
51:14.7
yung long standing
51:16.7
ikaw na nga lang ang
51:20.4
thankful siya sayo
51:22.7
if you really think
51:38.6
maybe you can find
51:39.4
another opportunity
51:47.4
it's not a bad thing
51:49.0
it's not a bad thing
51:53.1
the manner that you
52:00.5
yun ang magde decide
52:12.0
huwag mong sisihin
52:26.2
ako walang personal lang
52:30.2
we had an intellectual
52:33.3
an intellectual contest
52:34.8
it just so happened
52:40.0
yung verdict was 3-0
52:45.5
my issue with him is concerned
52:49.9
I don't anymore have the
52:55.4
parang wala na akong obligation to
53:03.7
privilege sya ng winners
53:15.2
it's the price they pay
53:17.5
especially if you're a proud loser
53:19.8
tapos hindi naman ako nagluglut
53:23.7
wala nga akong sinasabi dun sa social media na
53:27.4
ako yung mas magaling
53:28.6
dahil ako yung nanawala
53:30.4
I just made a thank you video
53:32.2
nagpo-post lang ako ng pictures na
53:34.2
showing my students thanking me
53:39.6
except nung nag-react ako
53:40.9
nung sa video ni Atty. Claire
53:43.8
I want to clarify some things that she said
53:48.6
na merong miniscote ba
53:51.5
Clarification video yun
53:53.2
Clarification lang
53:55.4
hindi yun gloating
53:58.0
it wasn't directed to Atty. Libayan
54:02.4
after I made that video
54:03.7
sinabi ko na sa sarili ko na last na yun
54:06.6
so kahit ano pang
54:08.4
kahit meron pang i-upload si Atty. Claire
54:10.5
to answer that clarification
54:12.3
wala na akong sasabihin pa
54:13.6
kasi I made my point already
54:17.0
Well, thank you then to Atty. Claire
54:19.4
hindi naman kayo ka-away
54:23.4
kahit si Atty. Libayan
54:25.2
hindi ko naman ituturing na ka-away yan
54:27.5
siya lang naman yung mahilig mag-brand
54:32.9
and thank you to Atty. Claire
54:34.5
for being gracious to host the debate
54:36.8
to become a moderator of the debate
54:42.3
so the debate was well organized
54:47.1
in the sense na dun sa actual debate
54:50.2
parang ang galing talaga ng pagkakap
54:53.6
ang ganda ang ganda ng presentation
54:55.5
nila ni Atty. Claire
54:59.7
nung una parang wag
55:00.9
wag si Atty. Claire
55:01.7
yun ang naiisip namin
55:02.7
pero when I saw it
55:03.9
wow it's a good call
55:07.0
it's a good call na mainstream media
55:11.4
bigay ng venue sa atin
55:16.5
especially after when you
55:25.2
okay si fiscal dito
55:26.2
di okay na rin tayo
55:27.0
and then tama rin lang
55:28.2
na yung moderator
55:29.8
should also be a lawyer
55:30.8
kasi pag merong mga questions
55:32.6
about legal matters
55:35.1
the moderator can help
55:38.7
meron ding ascendancy
55:42.0
abogado yung moderator
55:44.6
might intimidate sa aming dalawa
55:53.3
it turned out well
55:54.9
so thank you to Atty. Claire
56:10.3
sa opportunity na ito
56:16.5
final for tonight
56:23.4
one of these days
56:30.0
good night everyone
