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... Okay Secretary Llamas good vibes naman tayo dyan. Nanalo ang gilas pagkagasawa ng politik. Ano ang feeling niyo for the first time since 1990? Ano bang ginagawa niyo ng 1990? Medyo ano pa?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba yan? Inspired ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

Q1. Are you happy about it? China back-to-back natin tinalo over the past month. So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

So pambawi ba tayo dahil si Marcos Jr. ang ating president?

So this is long overdue. This is long overdue. Malacanang, dapat lahat ng nandiyan pinakakatiwalaan mo. Pero maganda ang timing. Magkakasunod.

Lalo na, after niya, ang tawag nga ng isang Duterte appointee, sabi niya ang tawag niya dyan ay massacre at okay coral.

After that, nangyari naman ang pagtanggal talaga officially ng House ng Congress dun sa intelligence at confidential fund ng Vice President at Secretary of Education.

At re-align daw sa very popular proposal na ilagay sa Coast Guard. Yun yung kahapon yata yan with finality. At before that, sumulpot itong kaso ng NASICOR labang GMA over Malampaya.

So ang makikita natin at the very least are dotted lines. Tapos yung dotted lines na yan ay nagsisimulang maging solid line going into the midterm election.

Dati pa naman natin sinasabi yan Richard na ito ay, since yung tambalos loss, ito yung magiging direction. This will be the new opposition. Ito yung magbubunguhan o wasakan unity, hindi lang makawasak, magbubunguhan sa midterm.

And early 2028, ito yung nangyari ngayon. Well I mean except BBM has something about his own approval ratings to look strong. I mean at the end of the day, BBM is still the president. He's the commander-in-chief. He's in control of the state institutions in many ways.

While the vice president really limited ang kanyang powers and all. So if you have a vice president whose numbers is also dropping even though he's not the Department of Agriculture secretary and cannot be directly blamed, then that can tell you something.

Ang basa ko dito, Sarah has to look invincible so that even if she's just VP, even if wala na yung confidential fund, even if gigipitin siya rin there, she'll still look strong enough for people to rally around her ahead of 2025, potentially against the admin, potentially against Lakas CMD and Romaldes and all of that.

So the 11-point drop still puts her in a high territory of 70% plus but still, it shows that wala siya ng effect.

Alam mo naman Richard, it's not about the absolute numbers. It's the movement of numbers. Like what you said earlier, this 11 percent is before full-blown investigation on the intelligence and confidential fund.

Itong lumalabas about Dabao, P2.5 billion in confidential fund, P460 million a year. Ito ay nagsisimula lang lumabas at yung ginawa ng kongreso na tinanggal sa national budget.

So itong kwala ito, wala pa sa survey na yan. I'm almost sure, next survey, kahit pa pano tatama yan. Paano bumaba si Sarah sa ABC? Di ba? Sa ABC bumaba siya.

Tama rin yung sinasabi mo na hindi pa masyadong issue sa DNE, yung corruption, itong intelligence fund. Pero kahit pa pano, tatamaan na siya dahil sa kanyang conduct, sa kanyang handling ng sitwasyon.

Ito ang issue na hindi pa malapit sa sekmura ng DNE. Ito yung handling niya. Yung handling niya, she didn't came out smelling roses. Dito dahil hindi maganda yung kanya.

Kung ako siya, tatanggalin ko, sisisantihing ko ang aking advisors, sisisantihing ko ang aking strategists dahil wala silang silbi. Kailangan niya mag-reinvent, mag-scale up, at mag-crisis management para sa next survey where I'm almost sure magpapatuloy siya bumaba ng mas malaki dito sa binaba niya this survey.

In that window of two to three months, kailangan niya mag-ayos. Kailangan niya mag-ayos. So hindi lang si BBM ang may problema. In a different note, from a different perspective, malaki rin yung problema ng Vice President.

I'm not as optimistic as you when it comes to, assuming that's what you're really aiming for. My sense is the confidential fund issue will petter out in the coming months or so unless it's seized upon as a mobilizing issue.

So I'm not sure about that. But I think one thing I'm sure about is we're seeing much more vulnerability compared to the former. So wala yung Teflon effect ni Digong. The only time we're seeing vulnerability is in the past.

So I think one thing I'm sure about is we're seeing much more vulnerability compared to the former. So wala yung Teflon effect ni Digong. The only time Digong had something close to a double-digit decline was the Quindelo Santos case. And then immediately after he comes, he meets the family.

That's 11%.

Exactly, 11 points. But that was really a dramatic situation literally in every sense of the word. But you saw Digong was very proactive. He goes and meets the family, tries to comfort them, plays all the populist antics, suspends even the drug operations for quite some time.

So that means that the difference is, Digong and Marcos Sr. also, they were master communicators. Well, Digong not as articulate as Marcos Sr., but in their own ways, they were good communicators and they were proactive communicators. They could be their own communicators.

Well, we don't see that with their kids. I think their kids are still not there yet and both of them have proven quite vulnerable to reversal so early in their administration. I think that's where we see the difference between the seniors and the juniors, the father and the daughter.

That's what I'm saying Richard. It's less about the issue of the confidential fund. It's about the conduct and the vulnerability of the Vice President.

What his opponents will see is that he's not a Teflon like the father. He's not a communicator like the father. Digong, even if he's trying to show off, he can hold his own. He has charisma, authenticity, organic intellect, combination of ruthlessness.

He's like a villain, a psychopath in a serial killer movie that has an attraction. He has an attraction as an antihero. Others have seen that Sara is not like that.

So what they're thinking is that she can be damaged. The canons will face her now. They won't prove her vulnerabilities anymore. They will leave her vulnerabilities.

They will leave her vulnerabilities. That will be Sara's problem in the next few months, in the next survey cycle. They will gong on him, gong on her.

For example, why did the Congress support him in doing this? Because they saw that he's not like Digong. They saw that he's not good at gossiping, he's not good at communicating.

He can't knock down the table. For us Lumpens like us, you knock down the table to your opponents. What they saw in Sara is that she's not a Lumpen like the father.

She's not a Lumpen like the father. She won't knock down the table, especially during her engagement with Risa. She's always mumbling. Then she went out of the Senate. Not during the engagement.

That's dramatic. The senator is dramatic, et cetera, et cetera. Why didn't you say that when you were there? The father will say that.

That's why his attraction is strong, very authentic. His bullying has an attraction to a certain aspect of the population. What's the song called? Maginoo na Medyo Bastos. In his case, it's not Maginoo, it's Purong Purong Bastos.

There are versions of Bastos but it's Maginoo.

So there's vindication and vindication is at the level of Tommy. It's at the level of economy slowing down. It's at the level of everything happening around us.

And all of the Kapalpakan of Digong with China, we're seeing the effect of that. So where does that leave the opposition, Ronald? What can the opposition do coming into 2025?

Again, we're political strategists. If you were to advise potential senatorial balls and also local government, LGU level that has potential from the opposition, how should they be positioned?

I think we discussed already what our forecast is. But if you were to advise, what would be your advice, Ronald?

Bring out the popcorn. Bring out the popcorn and watch the telenovela, House of Cards, Game of Thrones and watch how people like RNR are intrigued and attracted to what's happening.

But more seriously, I think at least those who are thinking of running away from the classic opposition, because you might have a new age opposition now.

The logical opposition versus functional opposition. Functional is the taxi rides.

So I think those who are thinking of running away, for now, they can change in the next year. For now, there's no inclination to form a slate.

They think it's not value-added to their individual campaign, to their individual possibility to win. Forming a slate won't help.

For now, I think they will run individually with different strategies. If I were them, I will form a slate. I will mix those who are sure to lose but will get to know each other.

Like Risa, she lost twice before she won. She's like there are new kids who have been articulated. There are new Luke Espiritu. There are new Richard Hedarian.

There are those who are wearing leather jackets. Those are the iconic millennials. So it means, if I'm the one who will be followed, I won't be followed because I'm just a small voice in the wilderness.

I'm just a small voice in the wilderness. I'm just a small voice in the wilderness. I'm just a small voice in the wilderness.

It's too tight. It looks like they're just competing in the Senate slate. For example, one or at most two positions because ten are sure to win.

If you're competing in one or two, you have seven re-electionists, you have seven former senators who will return, and you have Erwin Tulfo who is almost certain to win.

It's not included in the seven. So how many candidates? It's a bit tight. So they will run for ten or eight, but the rest are supporting castes.

Disruptors whose corpus is divided among the others so that your candidate has a better chance. Those are the ones, disruptors, attackers.

They will mark. For example, Luke marked in just one debate when he praised Harry Roque and Gadon. Imagine if you have such people in the entire campaign.

There are a lot of smart people in the progressive movement. It's not just Richard Hedare who's smart. There are a lot of smart people there but they're not being discovered.

What did Elegy say, written in a country churchyard by Thomas Gray. Full many a gem of purest ray serene, the dark and fathom caves of ocean bare.

Full many a flower is born to blush unseen, to waste its sweetness in the desert air.

There are a lot of progressive leaders who are not being discovered. Let's put them in the forefront so they will be discovered.

Perhaps in the next election, they will have a fighting chance. They will be more open and they will be recognized.

But I won't be the one to judge. If I'm the one to judge, I will create a slate.

Thank you so much Ronald. I really appreciate that, especially your poetic moment. I didn't know you had that poetic side but with those Chinese painting behind you.

I'm being poetic when we won over China by one point. Isn't our victory very poetic? What can be more poetic than our victory over China twice.

I'm waxing poetic.

Just to clarify, American-born is the star of the game again. The bakery forums are saying that even in basketball, our love for China is valid because you have American-born players.

There are a lot of Filipinos who are American-born. There are a lot of Filipinos who are American-born. About a million, more than a million.

Five million strong community there. Thank you so much Secretary Llamas. I know this time was...

Usually, you're cheerful and happy when you have a lot of people talking to you. But this time, you're a little bit tired under the weather.

Don't grill. Take a rest and have a calamansi juice.

I'm working on your gift. Don't worry.

I will be good. I will be good if I see a leather jacket that is carried by Lalamove.

I will really give it to you. Because of that, Ronald, we need to agree to fundraising. When is your birthday? October?

Tomorrow.

Seriously?

Yeah.

Tomorrow is your birthday. Wow.

I'm not fond of birthdays. It's an accident that you were born on that day. I'm not fond of birthdays.

I'm so sorry.

I'm celebrating the moments that you were born. You were born to be significant rather than the accident of birth.

I'm not waxing poetic anymore. I'm waxing philosophical.

The universe. The cosmos.

We have Elon Musk there. Wow. So happy birthday, advanced happy birthday, Secretary Llamas.

Many, many people are happy about it. I'm sure they're happy with your interviews also with Christian Esguerra.

But I think many people also love this whole R&R conversational setup.

We have two annoying... I'm glad and I feel that a lot of things we were saying last year that no one listened to us.

We were like dark horses last year because a lot of people were mad at us.

A lot of people were mad at me because I've been saying hard truths for the opposition.

But now...

But we're doing something right.

But we have been right.

And now suddenly, last year, others are saying that they feel like they're original.

But anyway, I'm not going to go there.

Thank you so much, Secretary Llamas. Please take care.

Just to be clear, guys, we're only doing this once a week. I'm just slicing this.

I don't want to think about it.

But Secretary Llamas, because the point is, first of all, I think conversation brings a different side to me.

I mean, there's a lecture-ish side to me. There's a conversation side to me.

But conversation, especially with kindred spirits like you, among others, always brings a certain side to me.

I think this is what people appreciate.

So happy birthday Secretary Llamas.

You can now send us G-cash.

Let's make a donation for Secretary Llamas.

Thank you very much Secretary Llamas.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you for our ongoing No Holds Barred conversation.

So don't cut out the comments.

Later.

Thank you.