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00:00.0
... At ano ang hearing ng Monday, si Magleo sa presyenta dapat ng prosecution, we didn't know exactly what would be the tenor of his testimony. Meron niya sinumpangsala sa iyo before pero alam mo naman marami silang diradagdag siya at hindi mo alam kung extent ng bagong kasi nagalingan niya niya sa sabihin usually pagkakagagay niya sa witness stand.
00:28.0
... Pero bago siya maipresenta sa witness stand noong umaga, kapag karating may inabot siya ng konti habang may nakatingin ang bardya, inabot niya kay Sen. Ledlima mismo yung sulat. Nagulat si Sen. Ledlima kaya itong pagbasa niya, ang sulat na kumalat na ngayon na they are, and I quote, sinabi, we are recanting our testimonies against you...
00:58.0
... for several reasons with the primordial objective to help you both to be free together with your fellow co-accused in the last case. We both plan to recant as early as 2018." Yan ang sinabi ng dalawa witnesses na ito noong maaga pa lamang.
01:28.0
... Pero nung panahon na yan Christian as you would understand as lawyers nakita namin ang pangiipit, hindi namin alam kung ito ay script, ito may pain sa amin. Kasi pag sinabi namin yan, dilabas namin at sabihin niya hindi totoo yan, gawag gawan nila yung sulit na yan, yare.
01:58.0
... So medyo nag-approach the bench kami because it's an explosive incident. Ang nangyari kasi si Magleo nilagay muna sa witness stand, nag-oath na siya. Ganoon pa, to tell the truth and nothing but the truth sabi niya.
02:29.0
... At yung pirmang makikita niya dyan, pirm ako. So kino-confirm niya, under oath. Kino-confirm na lang Sarah pa lang na judge at under oath pa siya. At that particular point in time, the prosecution then decided to withdraw him as a witness instead of cross-examining his testimonies, the veracity or the authenticity of that particular letter.
02:51.0
... The prosecution instead withdrew him as a witness because they said he turned hostile against the cause of the prosecution. So ang aming stand doon, nag-recant na siya kasi sinabi niya, we are recanting our testimonies."
03:21.0
... And he did so in front of the judge and then what he said categorically, they said categorically in the letter is we are recanting our testimonies."
03:51.0
Q1. Kamusta naman yung dalawang witnesses na ito? Si Rodolfo Magleo at si Nonilo Arile. Hindi ba sinaktan? Wala bang harassment na nangyari as far as you know after? Or buhay pa ba sila?
04:21.0
Q1. Kamusta naman yung dalawang witnesses na ito? Si Rodolfo Magleo at si Nonilo Arile? Wala bang harassment na nangyari as far as you know after? Or buhay pa sila? Or buhay pa sila?
04:46.0
Q1. Kamusta naman yung dalawang witnesses na ito? Si Rodolfo Magleo at si Nonilo Arile? Wala bang harassment na nangyari as far as you know after? Or buhay pa sila? Or buhay pa sila?
05:11.0
Q1. So anong epekto nitong as far as you know official recantation dahil under oath ginawa sa mismong korte? So anong epekto nito sa huling naiiwang kaso against Sen. Leyla?
05:23.0
Si Nonilo Arile at si Magleo are both prosecution witnesses sa Criminal Case 167. So para sa amin dahil prosecution mismo ang nagpapresenta sa kanila at sinasabi sila ito, kanilang paniwalang testigo at sinasabi nila ngayon tinakot lang sila at hindi totoo lahat ng sinabi nila, clear yan sa amin na may epekto ito.
05:43.0
So that would be the effect of course that is left to the wise appreciation of the honorable judge and I wouldn't want to preempt the appreciation of that evidence. But as far as we're concerned this severely affects the credibility of the case of the prosecution. But to begin with the credibility is not there as far as we're concerned.
06:13.0
So it shouldn't have reached this far. Ang assessment ko talaga and that's the reason why I started volunteering for this case. As a young lawyer din, mas mata-bata pa ako doon, nataon na ako dito sa defense team, kitang-kita ko talaga na bakit naman sobrang manufacture ng evidence. First, bakit pinayagan na mag-witness itong mga ito na state? E hindi naman sila qualified to become state witnesses. They're not the least guilty kasi sila mismo nagsasabi na drug trader sila and this is a drug trading case.
06:42.0
Number two, they are convicted of crimes involving moral turpitude. Ang dami nilang manayolate sa guidelines ng qualification of a state witness. So first, to begin with, hindi sila state witness. Kung hindi sila state witness, why is it that they are not indicted as co-conspirators in the alleged drug trading?
06:59.0
Di ba? Madi-dispense ka lang as co-conspirator if you're a state witness. So yun, simula pa lang, questionable na why is it that they're not being charged when in fact they are admitting that they are the authors of the alleged drug trading. So ano yung feel na in-strike ng prosecution with them and why is it that the prosecution is selective in their prosecution or should I say persecution? So that's first.
07:20.0
Second, sinabi ko na ito paulit-ulit. Iba kung maalala mo sa programa mo. Drug trading, pero drug case supposedly. Kaya na siya naging non-bailable. Di ba? Kaya ang ginasakay ni Laila Delima para make sure na makukulong siya to at least siya baka kapag-bail is drug case. At ang nag-qualify lagi sa drug cases ay ang presensya ng drugs.
07:41.0
So ano mo nalaman na ang trinade ay drugs kung wala naman yung gramo na droga? Ano mo nalaman na hindi yun bribe money for example para mapasok yung mga kontrabando sa loob ng National United Prison? And assuming na yun yung talagang transaksyon, available yun. Di ba? Kasi hindi naman yung drug trading. So bakit ito drug trading case? Walang single gram of drugs. Laway lang ang puhunan. Puro incredible witnesses.
08:05.0
So yung sinabi sa akin, lahat sila kino-confirmah. Hindi nalang nakita na nag-drug trade si Laila Delima. Lahat sila. Wala nagsabi na nakita ko siya nag-drug trade at itutusan niya kami mag-drug trading. Lagi nila sinasabi, kinuwento sa akin ni JB Sebastian. Hearsay na kaya. So tandaan natin ang criminal case, proof beyond reasonable doubt. Magkakaroon ka man ng reasonable doubt kung hearsay yan.
08:31.0
Pero kung drug trading yan, kailangan may trail of money. At walang trail of money, sinabi mismo ng Anti-Money Laundering Council na investigators, there is no single investigation linking Laila Delima to any improper flow of money. Sabi mismo yan ng prosecution witnesses.
09:01.0
So ito na mga independent groups kasama na dito ang United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention.
09:31.0
So ito na mga independent groups kasama na dito ang United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention. So ito na mga independent groups kasama na dito ang United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention.
