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TAMBAYCAST 7: Ayaw Mag-BRA ni Nadine Lustre | Gharawi Vs Nico David God/ Intelligent Design Debate
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Nadine Lustre and Cosmopolitan push the no bra OOTD campaign. Komiksman and Billy RT discuss Modern Feminism and the Culture War + @GharawiArts debate @NicoDavid about Intelligent Design #komiksman #komiksmanpodcast #tpkp #pinoypodcaster Make a donation to support the podcast: www.komiksman.com SUPPORT TPKP VIA THESE LINKS: https://linktr.ee/komiksman
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00:00.0
... Sa akin at inaakusahan siya ng man-offroad, hindi ko natinatanong kung ginawa ba niya o hindi. Patingin na lang ng complaint ng kalaban at sasabihin ko sa iyo kung mahina o hindi. Wala na akong time for that bullshit na ginawa mo ba talaga?
00:30.0
Q&A at inaakusahan siya ng man-offroad, hindi ko natinatanong kung ginawa ba niya o hindi ko natatakot.
01:00.0
Q&A at inaakusahan siya ng man-offroad, hindi ko natatanong kung ginawa ba niya o hindi ko natatakot. Natatano ko, okay ka lang makulong ng ilang taon? Mas madali yan. Parang ginagano ko siya. Pag ayaw nila, sige nagbuka tayo ng ibang paraan.
01:30.0
Q&A at inaakusahan siya ng man-offroad, hindi ko natatanong kung ginawa ba niya o hindi ko natatakot. Parang ginagano ko siya. Parang ginagano ko siya. Parang ginagano ko siya. Parang ginagano ko siya.
02:30.0
Q&A at inaakusahan siya ng man-offroad, hindi ko natatakot kung ginagawa ba niya o hindi ko natatakot kung ginagawa ba niya o hindi ko natatakot kung ginagawa na siya sa inaakusahan.
03:01.0
And he's a science fiction author pala.
03:03.9
F**k, man. Akala ko nung una parang magaling lang sa robotics, yung palaputa, ano lang...
03:10.2
science fiction writer pa rin, and yung kanyang mga ideas ngayon is standing the test of time.
03:17.4
Grabe, what the f**k.
03:19.8
Okay. Okay. Welcome ulit sa live stream, sa live satang bycast with comics man Nico David, Ator Nerzal, and the one and only Garawi, ang tanging Pilipino na may ganyang panganan.
03:35.3
Okay. Garawi, si Garawi kanina, nag-spin the wheel kami kanina, so si Garawi ang tinamaan.
03:43.4
So dahil siya ang tinamaan, siya magpe-present ng topic para dito.
03:50.7
Okay. Gusto ko muna magiging clear dito sa ano na to, kasi napansin ko maraming new followers na siguro hindi nyo pa napanood yung mga dati kong video,
03:59.6
na alam ko talaga, speaking is one of my weakness. Talagang mahina ako sa pakikipag-communicate, hirap akong i-gather ang thoughts ko, hirap akong i-express ang idea ko.
04:14.8
So siguro na-overestimate nyo ako kasi nakikita nyo sa mga videos ko na parang smooth magsalita, dere-derecho, maganda yung mga presentation.
04:24.8
Ano talaga yun? Edited lahat yun. Pag nakita nyo yung behind the scene, maraming cuts yan, maraming beses ako nag-re-retake, maraming ano.
04:35.4
Kaya nga sa isang buwan, maswerte na yung mga katatlong video ko. Minsan isang video nga lang ako sa isang buwan.
04:45.4
So ganoon ako, hirap mag-ano talaga. Ang proseso ko sa paggawa ng video ko, isinusulat ko muna yan, tinatype ko muna yan, tapos kasabay na yun yung research.
04:59.7
Paulit-ulit ko yan nire-review, paulit-ulit ko yan binabasa, pinapractice, so ganoon. Kaya parang pag nakita nyo is smooth.
05:09.7
Tapos ayun na pa yan, i-edit ko pa yan, kinakat ko pa yung mga dead air, kinakat ko pa yung mga re-takes, so yun.
05:15.7
So mabuti na yung binawi ko lang.
05:17.7
Ikaw yung anti-Rendon Labador kasi si Rendon hindi na nag-iisip, nagpo-post.
05:21.9
Ako naman siguro sobra sa research muna bago nag-i-review at pinapareview ko rin minsan sa mga kakilala ko yung video ko.
05:31.9
Depende lang, minsan pagka-confident ako masyado dito, hindi ko na pinapareview.
05:35.9
So yun, mabuti na yung malinaw kasi napansin ko parang baka nag-i-expect kayo ng yung garawi na nakikita nyo sa yung anime version.
05:46.2
I'm gonna comment on that.
05:52.2
Kasi yung nakikita nung iba, ang thing sa'yo is you can articulate your thoughts, hindi ka pa lang sanay mag-execute nung pag-articulate mo.
06:06.2
Pero madadaan sa practice yan.
06:08.2
Ayun yung practice, naniniwala ko dyan.
06:10.4
Kasi pag nag-susulat ka, hindi mo na magagawa yung thoughts mo na meron kang creative writing, one.
06:18.4
Kasi yung the way you write your script, marunong kayo.
06:25.4
Marunong kang gumawa ng script.
06:29.4
Of course, yung sa editing skills, iba pa yun.
06:33.6
Pero yung the fact that you were able to write that script, ibig sabihin you know how to compartmentalize and also structure your thoughts para maging coherent at maintindihan.
06:51.6
Ang kailangan mo na lang is yung speech, yun na lang ang papracticein mo.
07:00.9
Pero madali na yan. Madali na yan. Lalo na ngayon, magtatambay cast tayo.
07:06.9
Isa yun sa reason talaga kaya pinilit ko rin makisali dito sa inyo kahit na mahirap sumabay dahil gusto ko talagang mapractice to.
07:15.9
Isang reason talaga kaya ako pumasok dito talaga sa pag-content creating kasi gusto kong gawin parang therapy sa sarili ko.
07:27.1
Hindi ako naging empleyado sa buong buhay ko kasi lagi ako rejected sa mga job interviews.
07:34.1
Talaga?
07:35.1
Ganon ako.
07:36.1
Bakit?
07:37.1
Never, never ako pumasa.
07:38.1
Graduate ako ng aircraft maintenance pero sa lahat ng airline na siguro, lahat na yata ng airline na nakita ko, inapplyan ko pero hindi talaga ako pumasa kahit isa.
07:52.1
Isang interview lang ang naipasok ko.
07:55.4
Isang interview lang ang naipasok ko ng college ako.
07:58.4
Supposed to be.
07:59.4
Talaga?
08:00.4
Pero hindi pumasa.
08:03.4
Paano hindi pumasa?
08:04.4
Hindi, teka.
08:05.4
Graduate ka ng...
08:06.4
Graduate ako. Graduate ako ng aircraft maintenance.
08:08.4
4 years.
08:09.4
Pero sa job application wala akong ipasang na interview.
08:14.4
Sa job application? Pero nagkagraduate ka ng air mechanic?
08:20.4
Graduate ako.
08:22.6
Engineer ka pala? Engineer ka ba? Engineer pa tayo doon?
08:26.6
Hindi. BS in aircraft maintenance.
08:32.6
Malaki sahod dyan.
08:33.6
Marami nang hihinayang sa akin doon dahil hindi talaga ako pumasa.
08:37.6
Kung makakapanchicks ka sa mga FAA.
08:43.6
Mga stewardess nyo.
08:44.6
Wow.
08:45.6
Mga flight attendant. Tanga.
08:47.6
Mukhang makasaya na si Garawi sa kanyang...
08:50.8
Baka nakikinig ang...
08:51.8
Pero okay naman. Masaya ako sa kinahantungan ng...
08:57.8
So, bali yan ang nangyari doon.
08:58.8
Isa lang ang so far na ipasakong job interview.
09:02.8
Noong college ako. Jollibee. Yan lang.
09:06.8
Natanggap ako sa Jollibee.
09:08.8
Yan lang. Nagkaroon ako ng...
09:10.8
Nakapasa ako sa Jollibee.
09:11.8
Pero aside from that, wala na.
09:13.8
Hindi ko na naranasa maging empleyado talaga.
09:15.8
Pwede bang sumingit?
09:16.8
Mula nung nakagraduate ako.
09:17.8
Pwede bang sumingit?
09:18.8
Sige lang.
09:20.1
Pero kasi akong ano.
09:21.1
Ito kasi isang ginagawa akong example to.
09:25.1
About fate.
09:27.1
Fate as in F-A-T-E.
09:29.1
Diba? Fate.
09:30.1
Feeling ko kasi.
09:31.1
Kasi dati, nung nagkandaletsa-letsa yung buhay namin.
09:36.1
Nag-try ako din akong maging service crew sa mga fast food.
09:41.1
So, alam mo, ang ginawa ko.
09:42.1
Sabi ko magworking student ako.
09:43.1
Magsaservice crew ako.
09:45.1
Para maituloy ko yung studies ko.
09:48.3
Tapos ang ginawa ko.
09:50.3
Lahat ng fast food.
09:52.3
Mga restaurant doon sa Recto.
09:54.3
Mula doon sa Isetan.
09:55.3
Hanggang doon sa may CEU doon.
09:59.3
Binibigyan ko ng resume.
10:06.3
Wala man lang nag-callback kahit isa.
10:10.3
Imagine mo yun.
10:11.3
Walang nag-callback kahit isa.
10:15.3
Pwede ko makapaniwala talaga eh.
10:16.6
Ibig sabi.
10:17.6
I just took it as ayaw ng tadhana na dumaan ako doon sa ano na yun.
10:24.6
Doon sa path na yun.
10:26.6
Diba? Kasi parang hindi ko matanggap eh.
10:28.6
Ito na nga lang.
10:29.6
Di parin ako lang nag-callback sakin.
10:32.6
Anyway, go ahead.
10:33.6
Continue your story.
10:38.6
So, bali.
10:39.6
Ang nangyari sakin is.
10:42.6
Since hindi ko nga talaga alam ang gagawin ko noon.
10:44.8
Parang ano na lang ako.
10:46.8
Nagpakalulong na lang ako sa games.
10:49.8
Adik ako noon sa Dota.
10:51.8
Huwag ka lang mag-shamoo.
10:52.8
Nag-Dota ano?
10:55.8
Ano pa yun?
10:56.8
Dota 1 pa.
11:00.8
Networking lang.
11:01.8
Anong hero gamit mo?
11:03.8
Paborito ko si Rasta.
11:05.8
Pandaren.
11:08.8
Nag-random ako kung anong makakuha ko.
11:12.0
Ah ba?
11:14.0
Pwede ka pala.
11:15.0
Nag-Dota 2?
11:17.0
Basta ano ko noon.
11:18.0
Na-expose ako sa...
11:20.0
Sa trash-talking.
11:21.0
Alam nyo naman.
11:22.0
Pagka Dota partner ng ano.
11:24.0
So parang doon ako nabuhayan ng loob na parang sarap makipag-trash-talkan.
11:29.0
Pagka kasi ano eh.
11:31.0
Pagka personal mahihain ako.
11:32.0
Pero pagdito sa...
11:34.0
Keyboard warrior ako pagdating sa...
11:36.0
Sa internet.
11:38.0
So, ayun.
11:39.3
So ang ano ko doon is pagka may mga...
11:43.3
May mga trash-talker.
11:44.3
Ayun.
11:45.3
Doon ako nabuhayan ng loob na parang...
11:46.3
Oy, ito.
11:47.3
Magandang pag-initan to.
11:48.3
Magandang pag-tripan to.
11:49.3
Parang ganun.
11:50.3
Pero pagka mababait naman yung mga kalaban ko.
11:53.3
Ano rin naman ako.
11:54.3
Mabait din naman ako.
11:56.3
So, ayun.
11:57.3
Papunta doon yung aking pre-prepared na topic sana.
12:00.3
Kasi ano nangyari sakin.
12:02.3
Noong napunta ko ngayon dito sa content creating.
12:05.3
Bakit ka nag-prepare?
12:07.3
Joke lang.
12:09.3
Ah.
12:13.3
Go.
12:14.3
Ano yung topic?
12:15.3
Ito.
12:16.3
Meron akong ginawang content about sa ano.
12:19.3
Wala ba ako?
12:20.3
Hello?
12:22.3
You're clear.
12:23.3
Ah, okay.
12:24.3
Akala ko na wala ako.
12:26.3
So, dito sa page ko.
12:29.3
Noong medyo nagkakaroon ako ng mga followers.
12:31.3
Meron akong ginawang content na ang title ay...
12:36.3
Criticism makakabuti nga ba?
12:37.5
Ang ginawa ko noon, kumuha ako ng mga real hate comments.
12:42.5
Mga haters.
12:44.5
Tapos, in-screenshot ko.
12:46.5
Tapos, ginawang ko ng story, pinaganda ko yung presentation.
12:53.5
So, ang pinaka-ano ko dito is maturoan ng lesson tong mga haters na to.
13:00.5
At the same time, makapagturo ako ng lesson sa ibang tao.
13:02.8
So, ang naging ano ko dito is parang...
13:05.8
Noong nag-viral siya, parang nabuhayin ako ng loob na...
13:09.8
Ang ganda pala ng ganito na...
13:12.8
Kumbaga parang nauupakan ko yung mga haters.
13:17.8
At the same time, nakapagturo ako ng lesson.
13:19.8
As in, talagang happy yung mga tao dun sa video na yan.
13:24.8
So, yan ang ano ko ngayon.
13:26.8
Anong date siya? Parami?
13:29.0
Um...
13:32.0
Tagal na yan eh.
13:34.0
Halos nung kasi simula ko pa lang yan eh.
13:36.0
Ah, matagal na? Years ago?
13:40.0
Criticism? Anong, paano ko masa-search?
13:44.0
Criticism, makakabuti nga ba?
13:46.0
Sige, dalawin mo na po yung title ko.
13:48.0
Pinapabulad mo kasi yung mga haters mo eh.
13:51.0
Eh, yan yung ano ko.
13:52.0
Parang, kasi nga, ano ko eh, na-addict ako sa pangta-trash talk.
13:56.2
Yan yung ano ko talaga eh.
13:57.2
Naging bisyo ko na yan, ano.
13:59.2
Makipag-trash talkan talaga dahil nga sa...
14:03.2
Ayo, yan naman ang iniingat ako, yung cyber libel na yan.
14:06.2
And, yun nga, tama-tama na dito si Atorney Riz.
14:10.2
So, yan yung mga gusto kong linawin.
14:14.2
Kasi parang ang nangyari dito,
14:16.2
in-encourage ko yung mga followers ko na matutong lumaban.
14:20.0
Huwag kayo magpabuli.
14:21.2
Lalo na kung content creator kayo o ano kayo.
14:24.5
May kilala ako.
14:27.5
Magbagawa kayo ng...
14:29.5
artist kayo, nagpo-post kayo ng mga artworks nyo,
14:31.5
tapos nilalait yung ano nyo, yung mga gawa nyo.
14:35.5
So, tinuturo ko sa kanila na mag-fight back.
14:38.5
Dahil parang, ano eh, parang...
14:40.5
Para sa akin, hindi dapat, ano eh, hindi dapat...
14:43.5
Ito, magpatalo sa mga ganyan.
14:46.5
So, hanggang maaari, ipakita mo sa kanila na, ano,
14:50.5
na hindi kanila kaya.
14:51.5
Yan yung itinuturo ko.
14:53.7
And then, ayun.
14:55.7
Doon na umiikot ngayon yung mga content ko.
14:57.7
Karamihan, puro gano'n.
14:58.7
In-encourage ko yung mga tao na lumaban sa mga cyberbullies.
15:02.7
Siguro, naka-thirteen videos na ako tungkol sa gano'n.
15:07.7
Puro, ano, puro...
15:09.7
Huwag ka lang nag-entice ng violence, ah.
15:12.7
Oh, yan. Wala namang gano'n.
15:13.7
Puro kaya na lang.
15:15.7
Puro hanggang asaran lang.
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So, ito ngayon ang question ko.
15:20.7
Sige, sige, sige. Go.
15:22.0
Ito ngayon ang question ko.
15:24.0
Mayroon ba tayong ano talaga?
15:25.0
Mayroon ba tayong way para lumaban sa mga cyberbullies?
15:29.0
Bukod dito sa ginagawa ko na...
15:30.0
Kasi parang dating...
15:31.0
Ang tinuturo ko lang kasi is...
15:33.0
Lakasan mo lang loob mo eh.
15:34.0
Parang gano'n eh.
15:35.0
Learn to fight back.
15:36.0
Pero pagka...
15:38.0
Ano ba talaga?
15:41.0
Pagka...
15:45.0
I mean, yung legal way para lumaban.
15:47.0
Mayroon ba talaga?
15:48.0
Wala.
15:49.2
Mayroon ba nangyayari dito talaga?
15:52.2
Sa legal, sa legal si Atorney ang panlaban natin dyan.
15:55.2
Pero mamaya, pero mayroon din akong insight.
15:59.2
Nakumukong ano?
16:01.2
Ayan, ayan, ayan.
16:04.2
Well,
16:05.2
ang panlaban si cyberbullying nangyayari kayo Nico Dabid.
16:08.2
Basically, yun lang.
16:09.2
Kasuwan ko.
16:10.2
Parang tumahimik.
16:11.2
Oo.
16:13.2
Sabagay, si Nico Dabid bully at binubully yan.
16:16.4
Hindi.
16:17.4
Yung mga kalapan ko naman talaga nun, mga...
16:21.4
jupal sa internet.
16:22.4
I mean, I wanna say that.
16:25.4
And even though, ewan ko ha.
16:29.4
I think,
16:31.4
if you want to have an existence sa internet,
16:35.4
you have to be used to sa mga people calling you shit.
16:40.4
As in, wala kang magagawa halos.
16:43.7
As in, wala kang magagawa halos.
16:45.7
Pero kunyari, gusto mong...
16:48.7
You can fight back, pero
16:51.7
when does it stop, diba?
16:53.7
Yun yung, ano kasi,
16:55.7
sa tingin mo, kunyari...
16:56.7
Sobrang taming mong akawayan.
16:58.7
Oo.
16:59.7
Hindi matatapos yun.
17:00.7
Para lang tumigil.
17:01.7
Oo. So ako, minsan binablock and white ko nalang.
17:04.7
Ayaw mong tumigil? Okay, fine.
17:07.7
Hindi kita, wag ka ditong manggulo.
17:09.7
Doon ka sa ibang community manggulo.
17:11.9
Doon ka sa Facebook page mo manggulo.
17:14.9
Kasi, yung Facebook ko naman, sa akin yun.
17:17.9
So, hindi yun sa'yo.
17:18.9
I have the right na...
17:22.9
Tulad, kung ikaw, ayaw kitang papostin dito, doon ka.
17:26.9
Of course, pero pagka...
17:27.9
Alam nyo yun, pag nag-a-issue...
17:29.9
Nag-a-issue ka na ba?
17:31.4
Oo, nag-a-issue ka na ba?
17:34.9
Alam nyo yun.
17:35.9
Hindi, huwag na nating ano yan.
17:37.4
Pero ang sinasabi ko lang,
17:39.2
the only way to...
17:41.2
You can do that, of course.
17:43.2
Kaso nga lang, it's going to be endless.
17:46.2
Where does it stop?
17:47.2
Where does it begin?
17:49.2
Where does it stop?
17:51.2
Yun yung opinion ko dyan.
17:53.2
Ikaw, comics man?
17:56.2
Well, sa akin kasi...
18:00.2
First of all, when you decide to
18:03.2
become a content creator
18:05.2
and immerse yourself in social media,
18:08.4
kailangan mag-prepare ka na
18:10.2
sa simula pa lang.
18:11.2
Especially kung...
18:14.2
Depende sa...
18:16.2
sa klase ng content na gagawin mo.
18:19.2
So, let's say,
18:20.2
social commentator ka,
18:22.2
of course, hindi lahat ng...
18:24.2
hindi lahat ng mga tao
18:26.2
mag-a-agree sa'yo.
18:28.2
Magkakaroon ka ng mga...
18:30.2
At best, yung mga...
18:33.2
may kipag-debate sa'yo,
18:34.2
na constructively,
18:36.2
at worst,
18:37.2
yung talagang,
18:38.2
they'll just gonna attack you
18:40.2
na walang katuturan.
18:42.2
So, dapat paghandaan mo yun.
18:44.2
So, let's say, kung content creator ka naman
18:46.2
na paseksi ka,
18:48.2
e, huwag ka nang magtaka
18:49.2
kung may mambabastos sa'yo.
18:51.2
Hindi naman sa i-encourage mo yun,
18:53.2
pero...
18:55.2
Hindi mo matatanggal yun.
18:57.2
May mga kupal talaga,
18:58.2
may mga bastos talaga.
19:00.2
So, let's say, kung ano ka,
19:01.2
kung...
19:02.2
kung ang...
19:04.2
ang style mo naman,
19:05.2
e, yung balahura ka,
19:07.2
e, parang sinaboy tapang dati, di ba?
19:09.2
So, o kaya,
19:11.2
pag magtatanga-tangahan ka,
19:13.2
di ba?
19:14.2
So, just prepare yourself.
19:16.2
So, kasi, the more...
19:19.2
and the...
19:20.2
the more you prepared yourself,
19:22.2
mas tanggap mo na.
19:23.2
Kasi, ganyan talagi.
19:25.2
Social media is a dirty thing.
19:27.2
Di ba?
19:28.2
It is a dirty thing.
19:29.2
And,
19:31.2
kung baka,
19:32.2
you're gonna...
19:33.2
maikipag,
19:35.2
parang you're gonna
19:36.2
go join the pigs
19:38.2
in their pen, e.
19:39.2
Ganon mangyayari.
19:40.2
Kasi,
19:41.2
social media,
19:43.2
free for all dito.
19:45.2
Kung baka, may mga batas tayo
19:47.2
na gagawin mo dito
19:48.2
na pwede mong i-invoke.
19:51.2
Pero,
19:52.2
bihira lang yun.
19:54.2
Ano, ano?
19:55.2
At saka, pare, eto ha.
19:56.2
Sige, mag-i-invoke ka ng mga ganyan.
20:00.2
If someone is hell-bent
20:01.2
na siraan ka,
20:02.2
they would not stop.
20:04.2
Walang...
20:05.2
Ano yan?
20:06.2
Hindi yan matatapos.
20:07.2
So, alam mo yun,
20:08.2
ako pag may nagsabi sa akin,
20:10.2
Nico, bakit di ka...
20:11.2
palagay mo si ganito,
20:13.2
palagay mo si ganyan.
20:14.2
I mean, what for?
20:16.2
Nakita ko na yung,
20:17.2
nakita ko na yung
20:19.2
worst na pwede mangyari sa'yo.
20:21.2
Nakita ko na yung best
20:22.2
na pwede mangyari sa tao.
20:24.2
So,
20:26.2
it's an exercise in futility.
20:28.2
Minsan, yun yung...
20:30.2
Especially,
20:31.2
yun sa mga kaso.
20:32.2
I'm sorry kay Atty. Rizala
20:34.2
sa mga kaso-kaso na ganyan.
20:37.2
It's really tiring
20:38.2
kasi,
20:39.2
ano yan,
20:40.2
pag kinasuwan ka...
20:41.2
At saka magastos.
20:42.2
At saka magastos.
20:43.2
Walang, ano talaga,
20:44.2
walang...
20:45.2
Ewan ko ha,
20:46.2
lagi kong sinasabi,
20:47.2
the lawyers always win.
20:49.2
Kasi,
20:50.2
win or lose,
20:51.2
they get pain.
20:52.2
Ikaw,
20:53.2
you get pain.
20:55.2
Always pain.
20:57.2
And also,
20:58.2
ang kailangan mo kasi,
21:00.2
let's say,
21:01.2
if you are gonna go,
21:02.2
katulad mag-arawi,
21:03.2
you are
21:04.2
in a...
21:07.2
animation,
21:08.2
pero may
21:09.2
social commentary kayo.
21:10.2
Diba?
21:11.2
Dalawa yung
21:12.2
animated social commentary.
21:16.2
So,
21:17.2
of course,
21:18.2
may mga hindi mag-agree sa'yo.
21:19.2
Diba?
21:22.2
Pinaka-okay na siguro,
21:23.2
yung parang
21:25.2
hindi lang mag-agree sa'yo.
21:26.2
Maybe,
21:27.2
some would go
21:28.2
ad hominem.
21:29.2
Diba?
21:30.2
Na,
21:31.2
siguro yun,
21:32.2
yun ang pinaka,
21:33.2
parang tingin ko,
21:34.2
best case scenario na yun eh.
21:35.2
Kasi,
21:36.2
ang pinaka worst,
21:37.2
mayroon talagang
21:38.2
mangiging stalker na,
21:39.2
ano,
21:40.2
may mga uungas sa'yo
21:41.2
ng susundan ka eh.
21:42.2
Diba?
21:43.2
Pero,
21:44.2
you would need to prepare yourself
21:45.2
for the worst.
21:47.2
Diba?
21:48.2
Lalo na kung...
21:49.2
Meron nang baba sa'kin.
21:50.2
Diba?
21:51.2
Kasi,
21:52.2
nagbigay ako ng opinion ko.
21:53.2
Ah,
21:54.2
oo.
21:55.2
Diba?
21:56.2
Tagay ko na sa social media,
21:57.2
million-million
21:59.2
comments about sa'kin
22:01.2
yung nabasa ko,
22:02.2
tapos wala pa rin sense
22:03.2
yung sinasabi mo.
22:04.2
Actually,
22:05.2
actually sa'kin,
22:06.2
ganun din.
22:08.2
Pero,
22:09.2
diba,
22:10.2
alam naman natin yung mga yan,
22:11.2
yung mga galawan na ganyan.
22:13.2
Pero,
22:14.2
sa'kin kasi,
22:15.2
way before,
22:17.2
kasi,
22:18.2
before,
22:21.2
ang content ko talaga,
22:22.2
is,
22:24.2
yung mga,
22:25.2
tawag dito,
22:26.2
culture war stuff.
22:27.2
Diba?
22:28.2
Yung mga,
22:29.2
against the woke.
22:30.2
Kumbaga,
22:31.2
pinrepare ko na yung sarili ko
22:32.2
na a-attackin ako
22:33.2
ng mga woke.
22:37.2
The most vicious
22:38.2
kind of people
22:40.2
in the internet,
22:41.2
yun ang pinaghandaan ko
22:43.2
kung anong,
22:44.2
kung anong gagawin nila.
22:45.2
Kasi,
22:46.2
political yan eh.
22:47.2
So,
22:48.2
yung mga katulad...
22:50.2
Sabi ni Toyang dito,
22:51.2
one can
22:52.2
disagree
22:54.2
politely.
22:55.2
I disagree.
22:58.2
Di ko nakita.
22:59.2
I disagree.
23:00.2
I disagree.
23:01.2
Hindi,
23:02.2
sabi niya dito sa comment section
23:03.2
kasi na...
23:04.2
One can disagree
23:05.2
politely.
23:06.2
Politely naman ko.
23:07.2
I disagree.
23:08.2
Dito sa internet,
23:09.2
no one disagree politely.
23:11.2
Promise ko sa'yo,
23:12.2
lahat yan,
23:13.2
ano,
23:14.2
nakakaasaran.
23:16.2
Siguro,
23:17.2
sa group natin,
23:18.2
kasi,
23:20.2
diba,
23:21.2
sa group chat,
23:22.2
kunyari,
23:23.2
magkakakilala na naman tayo.
23:24.2
Pero yung mga hindi mo kilala,
23:26.2
oh man,
23:27.2
hindi...
23:28.2
Ang...
23:31.2
Ang...
23:32.2
May papaya ko na lang siguro,
23:34.2
garawi
23:35.2
sa kasa ibang mga nakikinig.
23:37.2
If you're gonna be
23:40.2
going into
23:41.2
social commentary
23:42.2
here in the internet,
23:44.2
just be honest.
23:46.2
Kumbaga,
23:47.2
kaya mong...
23:48.2
yung mga...
23:49.2
yung mga
23:51.2
make sure
23:52.2
na kaya mong tindigan
23:53.2
at saka yun talaga yung
23:54.2
paniniwala mo.
23:56.2
Para pagkain ng contra sa'yo,
23:58.2
parang you're...
24:00.2
everything that you said,
24:01.2
stands.
24:02.2
Diba?
24:03.2
Kahit anong mga
24:04.2
pagtutwist pa yung gawin
24:05.2
ng mga ungas dyan,
24:07.2
dun sa words mo,
24:09.2
it doesn't matter.
24:11.2
Kasi what you said,
24:12.2
stands.
24:13.2
Diba?
24:14.2
Yun yung sinabi ko.
24:15.2
Tingin mo ba ganun yun?
24:16.2
Tingin mo ganun yun?
24:17.2
Well, at least for you.
24:18.2
Diba?
24:19.2
Kasi,
24:20.2
kampante ka,
24:21.2
of course,
24:22.2
they're gonna try their best
24:23.2
to get under your skin.
24:25.2
Pero,
24:26.2
ano,
24:27.2
pero,
24:28.2
kung ikaw,
24:29.2
kampante ka na,
24:30.2
let's say,
24:32.2
you said something na,
24:34.2
katulad itong sinasabi ko.
24:36.2
This is,
24:37.2
I believe,
24:38.2
wholeheartedly,
24:39.2
is a reasonable
24:42.2
tawag dito,
24:43.2
statement,
24:44.2
a reasonable
24:45.2
line of thinking.
24:46.2
Diba?
24:47.2
If somebody
24:48.2
goes ahead
24:49.2
and says
24:50.2
that I'm being
24:51.2
incoherent
24:52.2
and shit
24:53.2
kung anong pinagsasabi
24:54.2
and twist my words
24:55.2
and the meanings,
24:56.2
then I don't care.
24:58.2
I don't care
24:59.2
kahit sa kahit anong
25:00.2
pagbabalik
25:01.2
to rin mo,
25:02.2
kahit ilan pang
25:03.2
manood sa'yo.
25:04.2
Kasi what I said,
25:05.2
I know wholeheartedly,
25:07.2
makes sense.
25:09.2
Diba?
25:10.2
Kasi,
25:11.2
you can't always be right,
25:12.2
but you can always
25:13.2
be honest
25:14.2
and,
25:16.2
kabaga,
25:17.2
try to make sense
25:18.2
and explain yourself
25:22.2
as best as you can.
25:23.2
Pero, of course,
25:24.2
yung being able
25:25.2
to articulate yourself
25:27.2
thoroughly
25:28.2
and clearly,
25:29.2
that would take skill.
25:31.2
That would take practice.
25:32.2
So,
25:33.2
if you're gonna be,
25:34.2
kahit anong,
25:36.2
kahit anong pagtutwist
25:37.2
pang sabihin niya,
25:38.2
nakarecord to eh.
25:39.2
Diba?
25:40.2
Wala ka nang magagawa dun.
25:42.2
Tama ako.
25:43.2
Kahit ano pang gawin mo.
25:45.2
Diba?
25:46.2
Kahit ano pang
25:47.2
pagtatawa gawin niya
25:48.2
at paglalaet
25:49.2
ang sabihin mo afterwards,
25:50.2
tama pa rin ako.
25:52.2
Diba?
25:53.2
Yun.
25:57.2
Hello?
25:58.2
Uy, magsalita kayo mga.
26:01.2
Diba?
26:02.2
Kasi pag alam mong tama ka,
26:03.2
kahit ano pang gawin mo diyan,
26:06.2
let's say,
26:07.2
let's say,
26:08.2
alam mo,
26:09.2
bro, eto lang ah,
26:10.2
promise ko sa'yo ah,
26:11.2
nasa internet tayo.
26:13.2
Pagka merong,
26:14.2
walang,
26:16.2
yung concept ng tama't mali
26:18.2
dito sa internet,
26:19.2
it's so,
26:22.2
very different,
26:23.2
I wanna say that.
26:24.2
Kasi parang,
26:26.2
miski,
26:27.2
you present them with facts
26:28.2
kung ayaw naman nilang
26:29.2
tanggapin yung facts na yun.
26:31.2
Eto,
26:32.2
bibigyan kita ng example ah.
26:33.2
Diba, Garawi,
26:34.2
nag-uusap tayo
26:35.2
in relation dun sa,
26:37.2
sa video mo.
26:39.2
So,
26:40.2
yung video na yun,
26:41.2
it's very well put.
26:42.2
Tapos, of course,
26:43.2
I'm presenting you
26:44.2
yung current scientific
26:45.2
understanding natin
26:46.2
of the concepts that you use.
26:48.2
Pero,
26:49.2
I still believe na
26:50.2
pag nag-debate tayo,
26:51.2
people will always
26:52.2
side with you.
26:53.2
So,
26:54.2
and when you debate someone,
26:57.2
isang example na lang
26:58.2
yung mga debate
26:59.2
na nangyari recently ah,
27:02.2
it becomes a very
27:03.2
subjective thing eh,
27:04.2
yung debate eh.
27:06.2
Hindi siya objective
27:07.2
way of
27:08.2
trying to understand
27:09.2
knowledge.
27:10.2
Unless,
27:12.2
yung intindi mo
27:13.2
sa isang bagay,
27:15.2
kayang intindiin
27:16.2
nung isang tao.
27:17.2
Diba,
27:18.2
sabi mo sa akin ganun?
27:19.2
Ay,
27:20.2
yung mga sinasabi mo,
27:21.2
hindi ko alam yan.
27:22.2
Kunyari,
27:23.2
yung quantum fluctuation.
27:25.2
You understand
27:26.2
that
27:27.2
meron kang gap
27:28.2
sa knowledge na
27:30.2
siguro,
27:31.2
pag nare-integrate mo
27:32.2
dun sa
27:33.2
gawa mo,
27:34.2
you would have
27:35.2
a very different take.
27:36.2
But,
27:37.2
then again,
27:39.2
there are some people
27:40.2
who would not
27:41.2
bother to
27:42.2
understand this.
27:43.2
Kasi,
27:44.2
totoo lang,
27:45.2
if I was a
27:46.2
believer of God,
27:47.2
I would
27:48.2
already
27:49.2
agree with
27:50.2
all of your points
27:51.2
without question.
27:53.2
Tama nga naman,
27:54.2
parang nga may
27:55.2
grand designer.
27:56.2
I would not think
27:57.2
twice about it.
27:58.2
But,
27:59.2
then again,
28:00.2
that's the
28:01.2
beauty of
28:02.2
understanding the world.
28:03.2
There's always
28:04.2
a question
28:05.2
to be answered.
28:06.2
There's no such thing
28:07.2
as the last
28:08.2
question.
28:09.2
There's always
28:10.2
a question
28:11.2
after the next one.
28:13.2
Yung curiosity ba?
28:16.2
Pero,
28:17.2
under the context
28:18.2
of a debate,
28:19.2
matatalo mo ako dun.
28:20.2
Then people will
28:21.2
hate me for it.
28:22.2
Ibabash nila ako.
28:23.2
Dami mong alam
28:24.2
gagano siya.
28:25.2
Okay lang.
28:27.2
That's just how it goes.
28:30.2
Ako,
28:31.2
I concede to that point.
28:32.2
Kaya,
28:33.2
gusto kuman,
28:34.2
actually,
28:35.2
gusto kong ilive yun.
28:36.2
Kasi maganda yung
28:37.2
mga takes mo dun.
28:39.2
Actually,
28:40.2
ano nga sana kita,
28:41.2
sasabihin ko sana sayo na
28:42.2
i-debunk mo yung video ko.
28:43.2
I would.
28:44.2
Pero,
28:45.2
nung
28:47.2
sinimulan mo na ako
28:48.2
doon sa comment,
28:49.2
kaya doon sa GC natin,
28:51.2
biglang na-realize ko na,
28:52.2
teka,
28:53.2
parang hindi yata ako
28:54.2
makakapag-counter-argue
28:55.2
pagka hindi ako familiar
28:56.2
doon sa mga ano.
28:57.2
So, kailangan ko pa
28:58.2
mag-research pa doon
28:59.2
sa mga binanggit mo na
29:00.2
words na
29:01.2
hindi talaga ako familiar.
29:03.2
Pero,
29:04.2
dito kasi sa ano ko,
29:05.2
dito sa
29:06.2
page ko,
29:07.2
dito sa channel ko.
29:08.2
In-encourage ko naman talaga
29:10.2
yung mga followers ko
29:11.2
na makipag-debate,
29:13.2
makipag-argue.
29:15.2
Open din ako sa
29:16.2
criticism.
29:17.2
Pero sabi ko,
29:18.2
gawin nila with
29:19.2
respect.
29:20.2
Walang problema doon.
29:23.2
Do you think that people
29:24.2
will actually do that?
29:25.2
Of course not!
29:26.2
Come on!
29:28.2
So far,
29:29.2
may mga kumukontra sa akin
29:30.2
na mayayos naman yung
29:31.2
pagkakakontra.
29:32.2
Okay lang sa akin yun.
29:33.2
Hindi ko masyado...
29:34.2
Minsan sinasagot ko
29:35.2
ng
29:36.2
with respect din.
29:37.2
Pero may mga
29:38.2
umabot din talaga
29:39.2
sa point na
29:40.2
pagka
29:41.2
natatakan yung
29:42.2
ego nila,
29:43.2
hindi sila makasagot.
29:44.2
So ayun,
29:45.2
dadaling na nila
29:46.2
sa bastusan.
29:47.2
Eh ako naman,
29:48.2
pagka ganoon na
29:49.2
binastus mo na ako,
29:50.2
eh mag-ready ka na
29:51.2
dahil
29:52.2
sasabayan na kita
29:53.2
sa bastusan.
29:54.2
At pagka medyo
29:55.2
nakita ako ng
29:56.2
opportunity yung
29:57.2
pambabastus mo na
29:58.2
i-content,
29:59.2
eh maghanda ka na rin
30:00.2
sa content ko.
30:01.2
Naalala mo yung
30:02.2
isang lalaki
30:03.2
yung kaya tayo
30:04.2
itigilan?
30:05.2
Ay,
30:06.2
inabang ako din yun,
30:07.2
eh para...
30:08.2
Ayun,
30:09.2
baligtad na yun
30:10.2
kasi tatatlo na lang
30:11.2
sila natitirang
30:12.2
hater ko.
30:13.2
So,
30:14.2
so hindi
30:15.2
hindi ako yung
30:16.2
ano eh,
30:17.2
parang ako pa yung
30:18.2
ako na yung
30:19.2
nagti-trigger
30:20.2
sa kanila ngayon,
30:21.2
diba?
30:22.2
Inaaraw-aaraw ko na siya,
30:23.2
diba?
30:24.2
Kahit natahimik na siya
30:25.2
ako mismo yung
30:26.2
mag-ano pa doon,
30:27.2
ina-up ko yung ano niya
30:28.2
o ano na,
30:29.2
tatakas ka na,
30:30.2
ganoon.
30:31.2
Siya na yung iniinis ko
30:32.2
kasi...
30:33.2
Sasagot din ako,
30:34.2
pero eto ha,
30:35.2
garawi ha,
30:36.2
ah,
30:37.2
kasi ako na yata,
30:38.2
turn ko na yata eh,
30:39.2
na siguro yun yung
30:40.2
gusto kong topic
30:41.2
na pag-usapan natin.
30:42.2
Is it okay with you
30:43.2
that we talk about it
30:44.2
dito sa channel
30:45.2
ni Comics Man?
30:46.2
This is the first time
30:47.2
we will have a
30:48.2
we will have a conversation
30:50.2
about anything.
30:51.2
To be honest with you,
30:52.2
even nung,
30:53.2
nung,
30:54.2
well,
30:55.2
nung Axie Days,
30:56.2
we don't really talk about it.
30:57.2
Ano lang,
30:58.2
konting chat,
30:59.2
okay,
31:00.2
ganoon lang.
31:01.2
Kasi kala nila
31:02.2
it's a grand plan,
31:03.2
so,
31:04.2
wait lang,
31:05.2
may tanong,
31:06.2
bago ko mag,
31:07.2
mag,
31:08.2
mag continue,
31:09.2
may tanong si Billy,
31:10.2
RT.
31:11.2
Ano yan?
31:12.2
Sabi niya,
31:13.2
actually,
31:14.2
hindi ko masyado
31:15.2
maintindihan ang tanong niya eh.
31:16.2
Paano nyo po
31:17.2
ma-handle
31:18.2
yung support base nyo
31:19.2
na ma-trigger
31:20.2
in a negative way
31:21.2
sa opinion nyo?
31:22.2
Ah,
31:23.2
okay.
31:24.2
Ah,
31:25.2
kung na-trigger
31:26.2
yung fans mo,
31:27.2
na,
31:28.2
na,
31:29.2
parang mag-iingat ka
31:30.2
even with your own fans.
31:32.2
Parang ganoon.
31:33.2
Gets,
31:34.2
gets,
31:35.2
gets.
31:36.2
Ah,
31:37.2
ang ginagawa ko diyan,
31:38.2
yung dissenting opinions
31:39.2
ah,
31:40.2
within your group,
31:41.2
ganoon,
31:42.2
di ba?
31:43.2
Tama,
31:44.2
di ba,
31:45.2
ganoon yung ina-ask niya?
31:46.2
Tama ba ko?
31:47.2
Hindi.
31:48.2
Ano,
31:49.2
ulit,
31:50.2
ulit.
31:51.2
Hindi ko masyado nakuha,
31:52.2
hindi ko masyado nakuha
31:53.2
yung question.
31:54.2
Ah,
31:55.2
ang intindi ko,
31:56.2
may mga takes,
31:57.2
hindi,
31:58.2
hindi,
31:59.2
ako,
32:00.2
gets ka yun eh,
32:02.2
which,
32:03.2
which happens every time.
32:07.2
Sino ba sasagot?
32:08.2
Si Garawi,
32:09.2
ikaw gusto mong sagot eh?
32:10.2
Ikayo,
32:11.2
kayo,
32:12.2
kayo muna.
32:13.2
Sa akin,
32:14.2
it always happened na
32:16.2
may
32:17.2
kumukontra sa akin,
32:18.2
always yan,
32:19.2
sa bawat content
32:20.2
na ipopost ko,
32:21.2
there is going to be that someone
32:23.2
that will,
32:24.2
ah,
32:25.2
will
32:26.2
say something na
32:28.2
opposed dun sa sinabi ko
32:30.2
and that's okay.
32:31.2
Kasi ngayon yung point
32:33.2
ng critical thinking,
32:34.2
hindi naman,
32:35.2
hindi naman,
32:36.2
kasi yung ibang tao kasi,
32:37.2
pag hindi kayo parehas
32:39.2
ng opinion,
32:40.2
automatic,
32:41.2
wala kang critical thinking.
32:42.2
That's not how it goes.
32:44.2
Napansin mo yun,
32:45.2
Garawi,
32:46.2
kapag may kadebate ka,
32:47.2
tapos
32:48.2
yung kadebate mo,
32:50.2
ah,
32:51.2
ayaw tanggapin yung points mo,
32:52.2
therefore,
32:53.2
walang, ah,
32:54.2
critical thinking yung,
32:55.2
wala na agad critical thinking
32:56.2
yung kalaban mo,
32:57.2
which is maliyot,
32:58.2
kasi,
32:59.2
ah,
33:00.2
that,
33:01.2
that person arrived
33:02.2
to this answer
33:03.2
because,
33:04.2
ah,
33:05.2
he also has the capability
33:06.2
to think,
33:07.2
to critically think
33:08.2
the situation,
33:09.2
kaso,
33:10.2
iba yung naging answer niya,
33:11.2
which is okay,
33:12.2
which is definitely okay.
33:14.2
Um,
33:15.2
pero,
33:16.2
ewan ko,
33:17.2
ah,
33:18.2
pagka merong
33:19.2
na,
33:20.2
ah,
33:21.2
opposing sakin,
33:22.2
okay lang,
33:23.2
walang problema.
33:24.2
Maybe yung next opinion ko,
33:25.2
magugustuhan mo,
33:26.2
maybe yung,
33:27.2
yung susunod,
33:28.2
but,
33:29.2
I don't force everyone
33:30.2
to see the world
33:31.2
in my perspective.
33:32.2
Unless,
33:33.2
of course,
33:34.2
it's factual,
33:35.2
facts na.
33:36.2
Pero,
33:37.2
pero,
33:38.2
Niko,
33:39.2
yung,
33:40.2
yung tanong niya is,
33:41.2
yung,
33:42.2
ah,
33:43.2
hindi ito random person,
33:44.2
ah,
33:45.2
ito yung mga actual fans mo.
33:46.2
Yes,
33:47.2
yes,
33:48.2
yes,
33:49.2
yes,
33:50.2
yung nakikinig sakin
33:51.2
araw-araw.
33:52.2
Kawa ng Diyos naman,
33:53.2
if there is one,
33:54.2
ano eh,
33:55.2
ah,
33:56.2
madalang lang ako makakuha nun,
33:57.2
ah,
33:58.2
kasi yung iba,
33:59.2
hindi na nagre-research eh.
34:00.2
Pag may loyal fanbase ka na,
34:01.2
minsan tira ka lang ng tira eh,
34:02.2
di ba?
34:03.2
So,
34:04.2
ayun yung,
34:05.2
ganun yung ginagawa ko.
34:06.2
Sa'yo,
34:07.2
Garawi.
34:08.2
Sa akin,
34:09.2
so far kasi,
34:10.2
ano eh,
34:11.2
karamihan ng video ko,
34:12.2
ah,
34:13.2
gusto talaga ng mga followers ko,
34:14.2
kasi hindi naman ako masyadong,
34:15.2
ano eh,
34:16.2
hindi ako masyadong gumagawa ng content
34:17.2
na against,
34:18.2
ah,
34:19.2
yung pagka naisip ko na,
34:20.2
na contra sa karamihan,
34:21.2
hindi ko na,
34:22.2
ah,
34:23.2
ano,
34:24.2
hindi ko na inilalabas yun.
34:25.2
So,
34:26.2
yung,
34:27.2
gaya nun na-mention ko sa'yo,
34:28.2
yung stand ko about sa,
34:29.2
sa same-sex marriage,
34:30.2
yan.
34:31.2
Alam ko,
34:32.2
sa oras na sabihin ko yung,
34:33.2
ah,
34:34.2
opinion ko diyan,
34:35.2
ah,
34:36.2
pwede na ako makancel.
34:37.2
Oo.
34:38.2
So,
34:39.2
yung mga ganun kabigat na,
34:40.2
ano,
34:41.2
tahimik na ako dun.
34:42.2
Pero meron din mga times na,
34:43.2
talaga ko hindi siguro,
34:44.2
talaga ko hindi siguro.
34:45.2
Hindi,
34:46.2
wala.
34:47.2
Ah,
34:48.2
may mga times din naman na,
34:49.2
ano ko,
34:50.2
na,
34:51.2
kumukontra din ako sa karamihan,
34:52.2
pero hindi,
34:53.2
ganun kabigat.
34:54.2
Anong kay Rosmar?
34:55.2
Alimbawa,
34:56.2
yung
34:57.2
take ko kay Rosmar,
34:58.2
ah,
34:59.2
medyo pinagtanggol ko si Rosmar.
35:01.2
Kahit na alam kong maraming,
35:03.2
ano,
35:04.2
maraming nainis na sarap niya.
35:06.2
Sa,
35:07.2
ano niya.
35:08.2
Tapos,
35:09.2
kay Rendon,
35:10.2
yan,
35:11.2
medyo,
35:12.2
medyo ibinida ko si Rendon dun sa,
35:13.2
ano,
35:14.2
dun sa video ko,
35:15.2
kahit na alam kong maraming galit kay Rendon.
35:16.2
Yung mga ganun.
35:17.2
Pero,
35:18.2
so far,
35:19.2
ah,
35:20.2
wala namang nagalit sakin na,
35:21.2
ano,
35:22.2
na kumontra ko sa,
35:24.2
sa,
35:25.2
karamihan na,
35:26.2
ano,
35:27.2
ng mga,
35:28.2
ng opinion.
35:29.2
Okay lang yun.
35:30.2
Wala namang problema dun eh.
35:31.2
Ako nga ba,
35:32.2
may,
35:33.2
ano eh,
35:34.2
minsan sinasadya ako talaga na,
35:35.2
may opposing opinion ako eh.
35:37.2
Kasi nga,
35:38.2
yung hate,
35:39.2
it drives engagement.
35:40.2
Ganun talaga minsan,
35:42.2
magkakaroon ka.
35:43.2
May pagkakaterahan mo rin siya.
35:45.2
Oo.
35:46.2
Sa,
35:47.2
ang ano kasi,
35:48.2
ang,
35:49.2
ah,
35:50.2
tingin ko lang naman to ah,
35:51.2
ang,
35:52.2
tingin ko kasi,
35:53.2
your viewers,
35:54.2
actually,
35:55.2
ah,
35:56.2
most of them,
35:59.2
like you,
36:01.2
on how you deliver things eh.
36:03.2
Diba?
36:04.2
So,
36:05.2
mas ano sila,
36:06.2
ah,
36:07.2
maaring,
36:08.2
kasi,
36:09.2
dun sa Sausawan Podcast,
36:10.2
pati dito sa TPKP,
36:11.2
ah,
36:12.2
mas,
36:13.2
mas dun sa Sausawan Podcast,
36:14.2
kasi,
36:15.2
dito sa TPKP,
36:16.2
ano eh,
36:17.2
may mga guest ako dito eh.
36:18.2
Dun sa Sausawan,
36:19.2
yung mga ibang,
36:20.2
ano namin,
36:21.2
may makikita kami ng comment na,
36:23.2
isa hindi kami agree,
36:24.2
pero nag-enjoy pa rin sila.
36:26.2
Diba?
36:27.2
Enjoy pa rin nila yung episode.
36:29.2
Kasi,
36:30.2
it's the same personality,
36:32.2
yun nga lang,
36:33.2
iba yung sinasabi.
36:34.2
Diba?
36:35.2
Hindi,
36:36.2
maaring di mo gusto.
36:37.2
Diba?
36:38.2
Pero,
36:39.2
unless it is,
36:40.2
ah,
36:41.2
so very egregious talaga,
36:43.2
na parang you're advocating for,
36:45.2
diba,
36:46.2
for, ah,
36:47.2
kung baga,
36:48.2
parang violence na,
36:49.2
diba?
36:50.2
Dun ka siguro magiging
36:52.2
too distasteful
36:54.2
para ayawan ka.
36:56.2
Pero,
36:57.2
if you are,
36:58.2
as long as you're still being coherent
37:00.2
and people feel
37:02.2
that you are honest,
37:04.2
I think, ah,
37:05.2
they would still,
37:06.2
hindi ka ikokondem,
37:07.2
tingin ko.
37:08.2
Especially,
37:09.2
yung fans mo talaga.
37:11.2
Diba?
37:12.2
Hindi,
37:13.2
yung mga naligaw lang,
37:14.2
parang ano ba naman to,
37:15.2
pero yung mga fans mo,
37:16.2
tingin ko,
37:17.2
as long as you
37:18.2
remain with your,
37:19.2
with your brand,
37:20.2
with your identity,
37:22.2
ng pagkakakilala nila sa'yo,
37:24.2
okay,
37:25.2
good sila,
37:26.2
good sila dun.
37:27.2
Actually,
37:28.2
natutuwa nga ako ngayon
37:29.2
kasi parang,
37:30.2
ah,
37:31.2
nag-comeback yung,
37:32.2
ano ko eh,
37:33.2
yung mga nanonood sa'kin eh.
37:35.2
Wala lang,
37:36.2
parang,
37:37.2
hindi pa pala
37:38.2
akong nakakalimutan totaling.
37:39.2
Masaya ako dun,
37:40.2
dun sa idea na yan.
37:42.2
Oo.
37:43.2
Alam mo yan.
37:44.2
Oh,
37:45.2
ayun.
37:46.2
And, ah,
37:47.2
ikaw na.
37:48.2
Ayun,
37:49.2
so ako,
37:50.2
ang gusto mong pag-usapan,
37:51.2
which is, ah,
37:52.2
okay lang ba na
37:53.2
last topic na natin to,
37:54.2
kasi dalawang oras na pala tayo
37:55.2
nag-uusap,
37:56.2
walang yaka.
37:57.2
Ma-exclaim yun sa'kin.
37:58.2
Talagang muna yan,
37:59.2
sige, sige.
38:00.2
Sige, sige.
38:01.2
Hindi, di ba,
38:02.2
naka-turn ka na?
38:03.2
Parang sinasabi mo.
38:04.2
Di pa ako,
38:05.2
di pa ako tapos.
38:06.2
Ha?
38:07.2
Oo.
38:08.2
Hindi, naka-turn ka na.
38:09.2
Wala pa ako na.
38:10.2
Ah, wala pa ako.
38:11.2
Wala pa ako.
38:12.2
Na-ano,
38:13.2
na-ano na naman ako,
38:14.2
na memory gap na naman ako.
38:15.2
Memory,
38:16.2
memory,
38:17.2
memory gap.
38:18.2
Ah,
38:19.2
yun nga,
38:20.2
kasi,
38:21.2
si Garawi kasi,
38:22.2
ah,
38:23.2
first time namin mag-usap to
38:24.2
ng ganito kahaba.
38:25.2
Usually when we talk,
38:26.2
we just,
38:27.2
ah,
38:28.2
talk regularly,
38:29.2
pero not in this kind of format.
38:30.2
Di ba,
38:31.2
first time to in years,
38:32.2
di ba?
38:33.2
Hmm.
38:34.2
Pero,
38:35.2
we remain okay,
38:36.2
ah,
38:37.2
with each other.
38:38.2
So,
38:39.2
ah,
38:40.2
marami akong gustong i-question
38:41.2
kay Garawi,
38:42.2
katulad nung,
38:43.2
ah,
38:44.2
yung normal,
38:46.2
normal mo.
38:47.2
Di ba?
38:48.2
Hindi,
38:49.2
kasi,
38:50.2
it's a very thought-provoking,
38:51.2
ano eh,
38:52.2
ah,
38:53.2
di ba?
38:54.2
Yes,
38:55.2
nasabi kong,
38:56.2
ah,
38:57.2
creative writing,
38:58.2
ah,
38:59.2
prowess ni Garawi,
39:00.2
di ba?
39:01.2
Yeah,
39:02.2
pero,
39:03.2
the thing is kasi,
39:04.2
when I look at the,
39:05.2
his work,
39:06.2
on a,
39:07.2
objective level,
39:08.2
in a,
39:09.2
ah,
39:10.2
kasi,
39:11.2
parang,
39:12.2
baka kasi sabihin na,
39:13.2
if I look at it in a,
39:15.2
sa akin,
39:16.2
sorry ha,
39:17.2
sorry,
39:18.2
pero,
39:19.2
like for example,
39:20.2
ah,
39:21.2
yung normal ba maging abnormal,
39:22.2
and ding parang,
39:23.2
ah,
39:24.2
and,
39:25.2
and this will all circle back,
39:27.2
ah,
39:28.2
doon sa lahat ng arguments mo,
39:30.2
in relation to nung sa dalawang video.
39:32.2
So,
39:33.2
yung isa kasi,
39:34.2
it's about the grand design,
39:36.2
yung,
39:37.2
ah,
39:38.2
the cosmological argument na tinatawag nila.
39:40.2
And I,
39:41.2
I also watch a video dito sa,
39:43.2
internet na,
39:44.2
about that,
39:45.2
exactly about that,
39:46.2
yung,
39:47.2
ah,
39:48.2
hindi niya daw i-explain yung,
39:50.2
creation of the universe,
39:52.2
universe,
39:53.2
ah,
39:54.2
without using,
39:55.2
ah,
39:56.2
any bible verse,
39:57.2
yet.
39:58.2
So,
39:59.2
ang ending niya,
40:00.2
parang in-explain niya yung,
40:01.2
yun nga,
40:02.2
yung sayo,
40:03.2
yung,
40:04.2
ah,
40:05.2
yung using logic na,
40:06.2
all of this happened,
40:07.2
ah,
40:08.2
if I'm going to,
40:09.2
sir,
40:10.2
yung pinaka initial state nito,
40:11.2
there must be someone,
40:12.2
na may motive,
40:13.2
to create everything.
40:14.2
Tama ba ako doon sa,
40:15.2
ano ko,
40:16.2
doon sa,
40:17.2
ah,
40:18.2
doon sa,
40:19.2
pagka,
40:20.2
recall ko doon sa gawa mo,
40:21.2
Garawi,
40:22.2
eto yung,
40:23.2
ah,
40:24.2
tama naman,
40:25.2
ah,
40:26.2
tama naman,
40:27.2
diba?
40:28.2
So yun yung conclusion nun,
40:29.2
pero,
40:30.2
you left it with open,
40:31.2
ah,
40:32.2
parang open-ended,
40:33.2
kaya mo bang patunayan?
40:34.2
But then again,
40:35.2
I know you,
40:36.2
na,
40:37.2
that you are a believer,
40:38.2
so it's really not,
40:39.2
ah,
40:40.2
hindi siya,
40:41.2
that you're,
40:42.2
ah,
40:43.2
you're trying to show,
40:44.2
that,
40:45.2
ah,
40:46.2
a logical person,
40:47.2
should believe in God.
40:48.2
But then again,
40:49.2
I present you my,
40:50.2
ah,
40:51.2
points,
40:52.2
na for example,
40:53.2
na,
40:54.2
um,
40:55.2
the way that we understand,
40:56.2
kasi the Big Bang Theory,
40:57.2
is so,
40:58.2
ah,
40:59.2
full of misconception.
41:00.2
I read in a comment,
41:01.2
sabi niyang ganun,
41:02.2
eh yung Big Bang nga,
41:03.2
ginawa ng pare,
41:04.2
well,
41:05.2
it was developed,
41:06.2
it was helped,
41:07.2
ah,
41:08.2
it was,
41:09.2
it was conceived by a,
41:10.2
ah,
41:11.2
by someone in the church,
41:12.2
pero hindi niya in-evolve yung,
41:14.2
ah,
41:15.2
theory into what it is today.
41:16.2
Parang,
41:17.2
ano lang,
41:18.2
nagbigay lang siya ng take nga,
41:19.2
parang ganito,
41:20.2
pero hindi siya yung,
41:21.2
ah,
41:22.2
hindi siya,
41:23.2
hindi niya linagyan ng,
41:24.2
halimbawa,
41:25.2
ng,
41:26.2
ng mga takes ni Stephen Hawking,
41:27.2
kasi nga,
41:28.2
ah,
41:29.2
yung model na yun,
41:30.2
is being,
41:31.2
ah,
41:32.2
updated every,
41:33.2
ah,
41:34.2
every time that it can be updated.
41:35.2
Gets mo yun.
41:36.2
So,
41:37.2
ah,
41:38.2
yan kasi yung,
41:39.2
ah,
41:40.2
cosmological argument na yan,
41:41.2
it's,
41:42.2
ah,
41:43.2
it's such a,
41:44.2
parang ito yung pin-ultimate na,
41:45.2
na,
41:46.2
proof that there is existence of God,
41:47.2
because of that.
41:48.2
Pero,
41:49.2
then again,
41:50.2
I,
41:51.2
I'm showing you,
41:52.2
yung quantum mechanics,
41:53.2
kasi napaka,
41:54.2
ano yan eh,
41:55.2
napaka,
41:56.2
ah,
41:57.2
counterintuitive,
41:58.2
gets mo,
41:59.2
ah,
42:00.2
na parang,
42:01.2
hindi siya,
42:02.2
hindi siya readily accessible sa,
42:03.2
sa logic.
42:04.2
But then again,
42:05.2
it can be,
42:06.2
ah,
42:07.2
counterintuitive,
42:08.2
but then again,
42:09.2
it can be observed.
42:10.2
You just,
42:11.2
you just have to know,
42:12.2
what to observe.
42:13.2
Yun yung,
42:14.2
ano yan,
42:15.2
yung,
42:16.2
ano ko na yan eh,
42:17.2
wala lang,
42:18.2
parang,
42:19.2
ah,
42:20.2
my,
42:21.2
my point here is that,
42:22.2
ah,
42:23.2
yun nga,
42:24.2
gusto kong,
42:25.2
gusto ko lang sabihin sa'yo na,
42:26.2
eto yung reasoning ko,
42:27.2
why I think yung,
42:28.2
ah,
42:29.2
dalawang gawa mo,
42:30.2
could be,
42:31.2
easily be debunked by the current,
42:32.2
ah,
42:33.2
understanding of science.
42:34.2
And,
42:35.2
I want you to give your take,
42:36.2
dun sa sinabi ko.
42:37.2
Hmm,
42:38.2
sige,
42:39.2
tatry ko.
42:40.2
Pero,
42:41.2
ano talaga,
42:42.2
ah,
42:43.2
pero yung,
42:44.2
mga words na,
42:45.2
ginamit mo kanina doon sa,
42:46.2
no,
42:47.2
sa GC natin,
42:48.2
sabi ko parang,
42:49.2
kailangan ko pang i-research to,
42:50.2
ah.
42:51.2
Anyway,
42:52.2
itry mo ulit,
42:53.2
tingnan natin kung ano,
42:54.2
hindi ko pa na,
42:55.2
hindi ko pa na try i-research eh.
42:56.2
Pero sige lang,
42:57.2
i-share mo lang yung,
42:58.2
ano mo,
42:59.2
yung,
43:00.2
tingin mo dyan.
43:01.2
So,
43:02.2
yung,
43:03.2
ah,
43:04.2
yung,
43:05.2
yung first na gusto kong,
43:06.2
yung,
43:07.2
you're going back,
43:08.2
you're going back,
43:09.2
you're going back,
43:10.2
you're going back,
43:11.2
until,
43:12.2
ah,
43:13.2
parang,
43:14.2
ah,
43:15.2
kasi,
43:16.2
yung concept of time,
43:17.2
may,
43:18.2
may point naman yun.
43:19.2
If you go north,
43:20.2
ah,
43:21.2
eventually you would,
43:22.2
ah,
43:23.2
hit the north pole,
43:24.2
right?
43:25.2
So,
43:26.2
when you're in the north pole,
43:27.2
you cannot go north anymore,
43:28.2
because in your,
43:29.2
on the north,
43:30.2
diba?
43:31.2
Tama ba?
43:32.2
So,
43:33.2
if you go back in time,
43:34.2
ah,
43:35.2
what time is it?
43:36.2
In the beginning of time,
43:37.2
does it make sense?
43:38.2
There's no concept of time,
43:39.2
right?
43:40.2
So,
43:41.2
ah,
43:42.2
so,
43:43.2
wala lang,
43:44.2
parang,
43:45.2
it's,
43:46.2
ah,
43:47.2
parang,
43:48.2
ang tanong ko sa'yo doon,
43:49.2
ah,
43:50.2
ano yung motivation mo,
43:51.2
on doing this,
43:52.2
ah,
43:53.2
yung arguments mo
43:54.2
for that video?
43:55.2
Actually,
43:56.2
may isa pa akong video na,
43:57.2
eh,
43:58.2
ewan ko kung nakita mo na,
43:59.2
tatlo,
44:00.2
kasi yung,
44:01.2
ah,
44:02.2
ah,
44:03.2
ah,
44:04.2
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57:35.2
yung mga oras mo sa,
57:36.2
yung calculus mo,
57:37.2
yun lang yung ginagamit nila doon.
57:38.2
Yun lang yun.
57:39.2
Ah,
57:40.2
pero,
57:41.2
ang high-tech nung dating,
57:42.2
right?
57:43.2
So,
57:44.2
tensor mathematics
57:45.2
is,
57:46.2
ah,
57:47.2
kaso,
57:48.2
that computation
57:49.2
is two-dimensional lang,
57:50.2
get mo,
57:51.2
two-dimensional lang.
57:52.2
So,
57:53.2
ah,
57:54.2
tensor mathematics,
57:55.2
ah,
57:56.2
ah,
57:57.2
talks about,
57:58.2
ah,
57:59.2
computations more than
58:00.2
three dimensions,
58:01.2
more than four dimensions,
58:02.2
more than five dimensions.
58:03.2
More than ten dimensions.
58:04.2
Ngayon,
58:05.2
ang problema sa
58:06.2
string theory kasi,
58:07.2
ah,
58:08.2
you can have
58:09.2
infinitely
58:10.2
many numbers
58:11.2
of,
58:12.2
ah,
58:13.2
of,
58:14.2
ah,
58:15.2
of dimensions
58:16.2
to explain
58:17.2
a certain phenomenon,
58:18.2
get mo.
58:19.2
For example,
58:20.2
yung integration ng gravity
58:21.2
at saka ng,
58:22.2
ah,
58:23.2
ng other fundamental forces.
58:24.2
So,
58:25.2
yun yung
58:26.2
nagiging problema ngayon
58:27.2
ng
58:28.2
string theorist.
58:29.2
Hindi siya sa dead end.
58:30.2
It's just to find
58:31.2
complicated
58:32.2
to explain
58:33.2
to a child.
58:34.2
He gets,
58:35.2
you know?
58:36.2
So,
58:37.2
ayun,
58:38.2
oh.
58:39.2
Pero,
58:40.2
may debate kasi,
58:41.2
na parang,
58:42.2
is it re,
58:43.2
kasi parang,
58:44.2
is it,
58:45.2
ah,
58:46.2
really worth pursuing?
58:47.2
Or,
58:48.2
kasi parang,
58:49.2
kahit yung mga string theorist,
58:50.2
hindi pa nila
58:51.2
nasosolve,
58:52.2
diba?
58:53.2
Wala,
58:54.2
walang makakasolve
58:55.2
niya sa complicated.
58:56.2
Or,
58:57.2
at least one lang,
58:58.2
kailangan natin
58:59.2
ng second coming
59:00.2
to understand
59:01.2
all of this.
59:02.2
E-level na ganyan.
59:03.2
Or,
59:04.2
pag narating na natin yung ano,
59:05.2
yung
59:06.2
higher level
59:07.2
ng AI.
59:08.2
Ah,
59:09.2
may mga grupo kasi,
59:10.2
na sinasabi na it's,
59:11.2
ah,
59:12.2
kubaga parang,
59:13.2
parang nga,
59:14.2
a wild goose chase.
59:15.2
Na parang,
59:16.2
wala,
59:17.2
walang
59:18.2
kakahidnatnan din naman.
59:19.2
Okay,
59:20.2
there is,
59:21.2
ah,
59:22.2
there's a problem.
59:23.2
Sabi nga,
59:24.2
kasi sobrang komplikado
59:25.2
itong math, eh.
59:26.2
Oh, yun.
59:27.2
Gets mo?
59:28.2
Sa tensor mathematics,
59:29.2
merong naniniwalang
59:30.2
24
59:31.2
dimension tayo.
59:32.2
Merong naniniwalang
59:33.2
10.
59:34.2
Kanina nga,
59:35.2
si Garawi,
59:36.2
fuma 5 pa, eh.
59:37.2
Oh, nasa 10 na tayo.
59:38.2
Sa 10,
59:39.2
I mean,
59:40.2
yung in-explain ko doon
59:41.2
sa first video ko,
59:42.2
hanggang
59:43.2
5th dimension lang.
59:44.2
Pero,
59:45.2
ah,
59:46.2
yung kabua ng video na yun,
59:47.2
hanggang 10.
59:48.2
Oh,
59:49.2
ngayon,
59:50.2
may 24 na nga,
59:51.2
eh,
59:52.2
alam mo ba yun?
59:53.2
Eh, yung,
59:54.2
pang-one hundred.
59:55.2
Ano ba yan?
59:56.2
Anong 10 yan?
59:57.2
Yung,
59:59.2
sa,
60:00.2
sa,
60:01.2
yung,
60:02.2
kaya nila nakuha yung
60:03.2
10 ngayon,
60:04.2
yung mga string theorist.
60:05.2
Ah,
60:06.2
they are,
60:07.2
ah,
60:08.2
sinasabi nila,
60:09.2
they are 10 fundamental,
60:10.2
ah,
60:11.2
they are 10 fundamental
60:12.2
particles
60:13.2
na
60:14.2
meron tayo.
60:15.2
Kasama dyan yung
60:16.2
Higgs boson,
60:17.2
if I'm not mistaken.
60:18.2
Ah,
60:19.2
so,
60:20.2
I'm not so sure about it
60:21.2
right now,
60:22.2
kasi wala akong,
60:23.2
kayo lang yung tinitignan ko.
60:24.2
So,
60:25.2
that's the,
60:26.2
that's the main reason
60:27.2
why it's so hard
60:28.2
to
60:29.2
explain science
60:30.2
to someone
60:31.2
na,
60:32.2
ah,
60:33.2
kaya nga sabi ko sa'yo,
60:34.2
di ba,
60:35.2
ikukunsin ko yung point ko
60:36.2
doon sa,
60:37.2
kasi it's a lot easier
60:38.2
to believe that there's someone
60:39.2
out there
60:40.2
who has the motivation
60:41.2
para,
60:42.2
ano,
60:43.2
para,
60:44.2
ah,
60:45.2
tuklasin lahat na.
60:46.2
Pero in reality,
60:47.2
we don't know,
60:48.2
we don't fucking know anything.
60:49.2
Ayan na si Meliap!
60:50.2
Meliap!
60:51.2
Meliap!
60:52.2
Teka.
60:53.2
Anong Meliap?
60:54.2
Meliap!
60:55.2
Meliap!
60:57.2
Hoy!
61:01.2
Hello?
61:02.2
Hi naman, ano yan?
61:03.2
Eto, eto,
61:04.2
last na.
61:05.2
Tapos ka na ba, Nico?
61:06.2
Oh, okay na ako.
61:07.2
Eh,
61:08.2
ewan ko lang kung nag-gets
61:09.2
niyo yung mga pinagsasasabi ko.
61:10.2
Well,
61:11.2
meron din muna akong,
61:12.2
ano,
61:13.2
meron muna akong sasabing
61:14.2
kayo, Nico.
61:15.2
So,
61:16.2
yung lahat ng,
61:17.2
ah,
61:18.2
na-mention mo na yan,
61:19.2
ah,
61:20.2
siguro hindi rin
61:21.2
full yung understanding mo
61:22.2
diyan, tama ba?
61:23.2
Kumbaga,
61:24.2
ah,
61:26.2
I will never have
61:27.2
full understanding of that.
61:28.2
Ah.
61:29.2
Pero ang,
61:30.2
ano,
61:31.2
ang gusto ko ipoint out
61:32.2
dito sa video ko,
61:33.2
especially kung napanood mo
61:34.2
yung, ah,
61:35.2
yun nga, sayang,
61:36.2
hindi mo napanood yung
61:37.2
isang video na yan.
61:38.2
Oh nga, sayang, sorry.
61:39.2
Ah,
61:40.2
ang, ah,
61:41.2
ano dito is, ah,
61:42.2
yung lahat nung
61:43.2
nalalaman mo
61:44.2
naka-based din lang
61:45.2
sa mga
61:46.2
sinabi ng mga
61:47.2
physicist
61:48.2
or scientist
61:49.2
na mga sinubay-bayan mo,
61:50.2
yung mga
61:51.2
sa tingin mong parang,
61:52.2
oh, eto,
61:53.2
mas tama siguro to,
61:54.2
mas na-explain niya
61:55.2
yung ganito,
61:56.2
yung ganyan.
61:57.2
So,
61:58.2
ang pinaka-bottom,
61:59.2
pinaka-bottom line na ito,
62:00.2
yung nalalaman mo
62:01.2
ay, ah,
62:02.2
fate pa rin.
62:03.2
Ah,
62:04.2
nakasalalay,
62:05.2
nakasalalay pa rin
62:06.2
sa fate mo
62:07.2
dun sa, ano,
62:08.2
sa taon na yun.
62:09.2
No,
62:10.2
it's not,
62:11.2
it's not fate,
62:12.2
it's objective reality
62:13.2
kasi, ah,
62:14.2
may observation,
62:15.2
may resulting observation.
62:16.2
So,
62:17.2
it's not about fate.
62:18.2
Fate has nothing
62:19.2
to do with it.
62:20.2
Ah,
62:21.2
the only thing that,
62:22.2
I mean,
62:23.2
hindi mo siya naobserbahan
62:24.2
ng sarili mo eh.
62:25.2
No,
62:26.2
but I understand
62:27.2
the science.
62:28.2
More like,
62:29.2
nakabase ka sa, ano,
62:30.2
I understand the math.
62:31.2
That's why I believe it
62:32.2
because I understand the math
62:33.2
and I can,
62:34.2
ah,
62:35.2
if I did the scientific method,
62:36.2
ibig sabihin,
62:37.2
if I did the experiment myself,
62:38.2
I would,
62:39.2
I would have
62:40.2
the same results.
62:41.2
Gets mo?
62:42.2
Eh,
62:43.2
it's empirical.
62:44.2
Kung gagawin mo.
62:45.2
Kung itetest mo.
62:46.2
Pero sa ngayon,
62:47.2
hindi mo pa siya nagagawa,
62:48.2
ah,
62:49.2
parang,
62:50.2
nag-ano ka lang
62:51.2
ng full trust mo
62:53.2
Sige,
62:54.2
I will,
62:55.2
I'll use your logic there.
62:56.2
Ah,
62:57.2
pag,
62:58.2
ah,
62:59.2
do you,
63:00.2
do you,
63:01.2
ah,
63:02.2
nagawa mo na bang
63:03.2
tumalon sa building?
63:04.2
Doon sa,
63:05.2
sa top of the building?
63:06.2
Nagawa mo na yan?
63:07.2
Hindi pa?
63:08.2
I mean,
63:09.2
papakahulog,
63:10.2
hindi pa.
63:11.2
Papakahulog ah,
63:12.2
from the top of the building
63:13.2
pababa?
63:14.2
Ah,
63:15.2
hindi pa.
63:16.2
Nasubukan mo na yan?
63:17.2
So,
63:18.2
paano mo nalaman na,
63:19.2
pag tumalon ka sa building,
63:20.2
eh,
63:21.2
ah,
63:22.2
hindi pa?
63:23.2
Ah,
63:24.2
okay.
63:25.2
So,
63:26.2
naniniwala ko doon,
63:27.2
kasi,
63:28.2
ah,
63:29.2
based din lang yan sa mga
63:30.2
nabalitaan ko,
63:31.2
mga nakwento sakin.
63:32.2
Yes.
63:33.2
So,
63:34.2
yung idea na yan is,
63:35.2
ah,
63:36.2
ganun pa rin.
63:37.2
Fate pa rin.
63:38.2
No,
63:39.2
it's not fate,
63:40.2
it's called gravity, bro.
63:41.2
If you jump from the top of the building
63:43.2
pababa,
63:44.2
there,
63:45.2
you have no way of stopping.
63:46.2
Hindi,
63:47.2
kasi merong,
63:48.2
merong kang mga knowledge na,
63:49.2
There's no amount of fate
63:51.2
merong kang mga knowledge na,
63:52.2
malalaman mo talaga na,
63:53.2
100% sure ka.
63:55.2
Like,
63:56.2
ah,
63:57.2
for example,
63:58.2
ah,
63:59.2
100% sure ka na,
64:00.2
mainit ang apoy,
64:01.2
masusunog ka,
64:02.2
eh, mga ganun.
64:03.2
Pero may mga knowledge din na,
64:04.2
ano,
64:05.2
na hindi ka talaga,
64:06.2
hindi mo masabi,
64:07.2
hindi,
64:08.2
nakasalalay lang doon sa mga nabasa mo,
64:09.2
narinig mo,
64:10.2
mga nabalitaan mo.
64:11.2
Hindi,
64:12.2
kasi you're conflating.
64:13.2
Di ba may mga ganun?
64:14.2
Yes,
64:15.2
understand.
64:16.2
I understand.
64:17.2
Nag-explain point mo.
64:18.2
Ah,
64:19.2
yeah,
64:20.2
right.
64:21.2
That's something that I don't know.
64:22.2
I,
64:23.2
I,
64:24.2
I don't believe it necessarily,
64:25.2
pero,
64:26.2
ah,
64:27.2
I am inclined to believe it,
64:28.2
because that is the,
64:29.2
the current measurement
64:30.2
na ginawa natin.
64:32.2
Gets?
64:33.2
Mmhmm.
64:34.2
Ah,
64:35.2
ibig sabihin ito,
64:36.2
ah,
64:37.2
I cannot have an opinion
64:38.2
doon sa measurement
64:39.2
ng bagay na yan.
64:40.2
It's not about fate, eh.
64:41.2
It's about what we have observed
64:42.2
and what is,
64:43.2
right now,
64:44.2
the current standing
64:45.2
ng observation natin.
64:46.2
Fate has nothing to do with it.
64:47.2
Well,
64:48.2
okay,
64:49.2
kasi diba ang definition ng fate is,
64:50.2
ano,
64:51.2
complete trust
64:52.2
or confidence
64:53.2
in someone or something.
64:54.2
So,
64:55.2
kung nagtiwala ka na lang dito
64:56.2
sa research niya
64:57.2
nang hindi mo naman,
64:58.2
ah,
64:59.2
na-test,
65:00.2
hindi mo,
65:01.2
hindi mo na sinubukan
65:02.2
i-test,
65:03.2
dahil,
65:04.2
dahil naniniwala ka eh.
65:05.2
Hindi,
65:06.2
hindi nga eh,
65:07.2
ah,
65:08.2
can you tell me
65:09.2
how can I,
65:10.2
ah,
65:11.2
how can I,
65:12.2
I,
65:13.2
I don't have
65:14.2
a laboratory here.
65:15.2
How can I test that?
65:16.2
Kasi you're,
65:17.2
you're,
65:18.2
you're not,
65:19.2
oh nga,
65:20.2
pero I,
65:21.2
I do,
65:22.2
when I read their research,
65:23.2
I understand that
65:24.2
they are
65:25.2
onto something here.
65:26.2
Do you get it?
65:27.2
Like,
65:28.2
ah,
65:29.2
yung,
65:30.2
yung mga dating alam ko
65:31.2
na,
65:32.2
na-tested
65:33.2
and proven to be,
65:34.2
ah,
65:35.2
true,
65:36.2
ah,
65:37.2
ginagamit nila lahat yan
65:38.2
to understand this new,
65:39.2
ah,
65:40.2
this new paradigm
65:41.2
na wala pa akong alam.
65:42.2
It's not about,
65:43.2
oh,
65:44.2
oh,
65:45.2
oh,
65:46.2
wanang masasabi mo,
65:47.2
pero ang,
65:48.2
ang thing is,
65:49.2
even the science that you're saying,
65:50.2
ito yung point ni Garawi,
65:53.2
even the science that you're saying,
65:54.2
it's still not complete
65:55.2
at this time.
65:56.2
Yes, of course,
65:57.2
we don't know what,
65:58.2
we don't know what happened
65:59.2
with the big ban,
66:00.2
di ba?
66:01.2
So,
66:02.2
but it is very wrong to say na,
66:03.2
I am,
66:04.2
ah,
66:05.2
I am using fate to,
66:06.2
ah,
66:07.2
to,
66:08.2
because I believe it,
66:09.2
because I have faith in it.
66:10.2
No, of course not.
66:11.2
If it's wrong then I will,
66:12.2
I will,
66:13.2
ah,
66:14.2
I am the first one to,
66:15.2
ah,
66:16.2
to debunk it,
66:17.2
ba?
66:18.2
Tega,
66:19.2
ano bang,
66:20.2
ano bang,
66:21.2
ah,
66:22.2
position mo na,
66:23.2
na walang,
66:24.2
ah,
66:25.2
hindi,
66:26.2
hindi ano,
66:27.2
hindi intelligent design?
66:28.2
I am inclined to believe
66:29.2
that there is no such,
66:30.2
ah,
66:31.2
that everything is happening
66:32.2
to,
66:33.2
ah,
66:34.2
randomly,
66:35.2
because of,
66:36.2
ah,
66:37.2
my understanding
66:38.2
of quantum mechanics.
66:39.2
It's not because I want
66:40.2
to believe that,
66:41.2
it is because I am inclined,
66:42.2
because of the data
66:43.2
that is presented sa akin.
66:44.2
But,
66:45.2
ah,
66:46.2
yung belief mo na yan,
66:47.2
ah,
66:48.2
tingin mo,
66:49.2
this proves
66:50.2
an intelligent designer.
66:51.2
Well,
66:52.2
it doesn't prove
66:53.2
that there is
66:54.2
an intelligent design,
66:55.2
right?
66:56.2
Because I understand
66:57.2
evolution as well.
66:58.2
Yes,
66:59.2
pero meron yun
67:00.2
ng stand,
67:01.2
yun ng stand mo,
67:02.2
I'm just trying to,
67:03.2
ano,
67:04.2
to,
67:05.2
hindi,
67:06.2
kasi you're simplifying
67:07.2
my stand eh,
67:08.2
gets mo.
67:09.2
My stand is,
67:10.2
is not that simple eh,
67:11.2
parang,
67:12.2
ah,
67:13.2
you know,
67:14.2
kinistroman mo
67:15.2
masyadong yung,
67:16.2
ah,
67:17.2
eh,
67:18.2
you're not
67:19.2
firmaning my case bro.
67:20.2
No,
67:21.2
no,
67:22.2
no bro,
67:23.2
inaano kita,
67:24.2
hindi kita inistroman.
67:25.2
I'm asking,
67:26.2
I'm clarifying,
67:27.2
who are you are.
67:28.2
I'm clarifying,
67:29.2
what,
67:30.2
kung ano yung stance mo.
67:31.2
So if you,
67:32.2
if you say it's not then,
67:33.2
no,
67:34.2
when I say I am inclined
67:35.2
to believe,
67:36.2
it means that I do not have
67:37.2
an opinion on it,
67:38.2
because it's a fucking measurement.
67:39.2
Okay so.
67:40.2
Do you understand?
67:41.2
So hindi mo,
67:43.2
I am,
67:44.2
I have no reason
67:45.2
to believe that.
67:46.2
Okay.
67:47.2
So yun lang,
67:48.2
yun lang gusto mo malaman.
67:49.2
Iba yung dini-disprove ko.
67:50.2
Iba yung dini-disprove ko.
67:51.2
When I'm disproving something,
67:53.2
I am essentially debunking it.
67:56.2
Okay,
67:57.2
I am not
67:58.2
entertaining it.
67:59.2
Kasi it lacks,
68:00.2
it lacks evidence eh.
68:01.2
So ano ang position mo sa,
68:03.2
about an intelligent designer?
68:06.2
Yun ang,
68:08.2
I am inclined to believe
68:09.2
that everything
68:10.2
has happened
68:11.2
through evolution.
68:13.2
Meaning,
68:14.2
a design
68:15.2
is not necessarily required.
68:17.2
But,
68:18.2
since,
68:19.2
since evolution
68:21.2
is a process
68:22.2
of eliminating bad traits
68:25.2
sa,
68:26.2
para makakasurvive
68:27.2
ang isang bagay,
68:28.2
it seems like,
68:29.2
they are,
68:30.2
it seems like
68:31.2
there is a designer
68:32.2
evolving it.
68:33.2
Pero in reality,
68:34.2
there's no design.
68:35.2
Kasi like,
68:36.2
when you say something,
68:37.2
when you say
68:38.2
there is an intelligent design.
68:40.2
For example bro,
68:41.2
ah,
68:43.2
may, may,
68:44.2
anong phone mo?
68:45.2
Do you have an iPhone?
68:46.2
Wala.
68:47.2
Meron, meron.
68:48.2
You have an iPhone, right?
68:49.2
So,
68:50.2
if I,
68:51.2
if, ah,
68:52.2
if,
68:53.2
if, um,
68:54.2
bibigyan kita
68:55.2
ng iPhone na,
68:57.2
ah,
68:58.2
basag yung screen,
68:59.2
tatanggapin mo ba?
69:01.2
Basag yung screen?
69:02.2
Di pa.
69:03.2
Kung mapapa-iso pa,
69:04.2
bakit hindi?
69:05.2
Hindi, I mean,
69:06.2
kung, kung,
69:07.2
ibig sabihin,
69:09.2
tapos basag.
69:10.2
Basag yung,
69:11.2
tatanggapin mo ba?
69:12.2
Kasi there is an intelligent design
69:14.2
doon sa iPhone.
69:15.2
Gets mo?
69:16.2
It is manufactured equally.
69:18.2
Ah,
69:19.2
therefore,
69:20.2
there must be an intelligent design
69:21.2
sa paggawa ng iPhone.
69:22.2
Gets mo?
69:23.2
Pare-parehas e.
69:24.2
Pare-parehas sila e.
69:25.2
So,
69:26.2
ah,
69:27.2
kung bibili ka ng iPhone
69:28.2
ng, ah,
69:29.2
ah,
69:30.2
anuman tawag dito,
69:31.2
non-fungible,
69:32.2
oh my God,
69:33.2
NFT.
69:34.2
Oh.
69:35.2
Non-fungible sya.
69:36.2
Ibig sabihin,
69:37.2
if you buy an iPhone
69:38.2
from anywhere,
69:39.2
it would have,
69:40.2
ah,
69:41.2
the same specs,
69:42.2
ah,
69:43.2
the same design.
69:44.2
Kasi there is an intelligent design.
69:45.2
Unlike humanity,
69:46.2
that it happens so random.
69:47.2
Ikaw, ako,
69:48.2
parang iba-iba yung height natin.
69:49.2
If there is truly an intelligent design,
69:50.2
then we should not be arguing.
69:51.2
You know why?
69:52.2
Because we will have the same,
69:53.2
ah,
69:54.2
ah,
69:55.2
amount of intellects
69:56.2
in our brains.
69:57.2
Pero we don't,
69:58.2
right?
69:59.2
So,
70:00.2
you know why?
70:01.2
Because of genetic diversity.
70:02.2
Actually,
70:03.2
gus,
70:04.2
kinaklaro ko lang yung
70:05.2
stance mo.
70:06.2
Niko.
70:07.2
Wala akong balak ano yun.
70:08.2
Kasi yung,
70:09.2
ah,
70:10.2
yung,
70:11.2
ah,
70:12.2
yung video kasi,
70:13.2
yung video kasi ni Garawi
70:14.2
is,
70:15.2
ah,
70:16.2
basically,
70:17.2
a case
70:18.2
for intelligent,
70:19.2
unintelligent designer.
70:20.2
Yes.
70:21.2
So,
70:22.2
and,
70:23.2
and,
70:24.2
if you are to challenge it,
70:25.2
then you must be either,
70:26.2
ah,
70:27.2
you need to establish your position
70:28.2
on,
70:29.2
about intelligent design.
70:30.2
My,
70:31.2
my position is,
70:32.2
Hindi ba ang concept ng science
70:33.2
is everything has a formula?
70:34.2
Everything has a formula.
70:35.2
Everything,
70:36.2
every,
70:37.2
may math
70:38.2
corresponding to it,
70:39.2
may explanation to it.
70:40.2
So,
70:41.2
in short,
70:42.2
may intelligent design ng universe
70:43.2
because it can be explained by science.
70:44.2
Well,
70:45.2
can you explain black holes to me then?
70:46.2
Hindi lang natin mayintindihan.
70:47.2
Hindi pa natin alam kasi.
70:48.2
Yes,
70:49.2
but,
70:50.2
right now,
70:51.2
our intelligence does not give us capability
70:52.2
to understand a black hole,
70:53.2
especially what's inside the event horizon.
70:54.2
Oh,
70:55.2
the event horizon.
70:56.2
Yes.
70:57.2
So,
70:58.2
so,
70:59.2
so,
71:00.2
so,
71:01.2
so,
71:02.2
so,
71:03.2
so,
71:04.2
so,
71:05.2
So,
71:06.2
ibig sabihin,
71:07.2
incomplete pa yang alamin.
71:08.2
Ang isang
71:10.7
argument ni,
71:12.2
athony,
71:13.2
is physics is basically
71:14.2
a proof
71:15.2
of intelligent design.
71:16.2
No way.
71:17.2
The laws of physics.
71:19.2
Diba?
71:20.2
Kasi nakaparu…
71:21.2
Hindi eh…
71:22.2
Kasi hindi random ang laws of physics eh.
71:28.2
Indi nga,
71:30.2
pag pumunta ka sa black hole,
71:32.2
ngayon nagbe-breakdown na yung physics natin doon.
71:34.2
So,
71:35.2
there must be something wrong
71:36.2
with our current understanding of physics.
71:38.2
Kaya ngayon…
71:39.2
Kasi wala pa tayong…
71:40.2
inside the black hole.
71:42.2
And how can we get that?
71:45.2
Somewhere down the road,
71:47.2
we'll get there.
71:48.2
Somewhere down the road.
71:49.2
So, you agree, Nico David,
71:50.2
na possible na mali yung physics natin?
71:52.2
Possible, of course.
71:54.2
Sinasabi ko…
71:55.2
Iyon yung…
71:56.2
Iyon yung pinaka-point ko naman.
71:57.2
Kasi anong lumalabas dito,
71:59.2
naniniwala tayo
72:01.2
sa mga sinabi nila?
72:05.2
Ito,
72:06.2
mas simplehan ko na lang yung example ko.
72:08.2
For example,
72:09.2
nung ano,
72:10.2
nung kabataan ko,
72:12.2
talagang 100% sure ako
72:14.2
na 9 ang planets natin sa solar system.
72:17.2
And then, dumating yung time
72:19.2
na 8 na lang pala.
72:21.2
So, ano nangyari dito sa ikanain?
72:22.2
Mali pala yung pinapaniwala ako
72:24.2
my whole life.
72:26.2
Yung position ko naman kasi ngayon, bro,
72:28.2
hindi ko naman yung opinion.
72:31.2
Kasi,
72:32.2
you are trying to conflate
72:34.2
my position with
72:36.2
my opinion.
72:38.2
It's not my opinion yet.
72:40.2
Parang si Atty. Zaldi,
72:42.2
pag tinanong natin niya
72:44.2
kung ano yung
72:46.2
batas about this,
72:47.2
hindi yung opinion niya
72:49.2
yung ibibigay niya.
72:50.2
He may have an opinion on the law,
72:51.2
pero it's not about
72:53.2
his opinion.
72:55.2
So, that is what I'm trying to show you here.
72:57.2
Yung current understanding natin,
72:59.2
especially kin-vote mo pa
73:01.2
si Stephen Hawking
73:03.2
kasi parang betrayal yan
73:05.2
of what he is trying to say
73:07.2
sa libro niya.
73:09.2
I agree with Stephen Hawking
73:11.2
kaso iibahin ko lang yung thesis
73:13.2
nung sinasabi niya sa libro niya.
73:15.2
So, alam mo yun, it's a betrayal.
73:17.2
Wala naman akong iniba doon.
73:19.2
Ang inano ko lang is dinagdagang ko ng konting-konti lang.
73:21.2
Yung binagdag mo nga,
73:23.2
it's a betrayal.
73:25.2
It's a betrayal
73:27.2
It's a betrayal of
73:29.2
what he is trying to prove.
73:31.2
We don't need a creator.
73:33.2
Yun yung sinasabi niya.
73:35.2
Doon lang ako hindi nag-agree
73:37.2
sa sinabi niya ngayon.
73:39.2
Kasi parang ang sabi niya, walang time.
73:41.2
So, ibig sabihin,
73:43.2
kung may Diyos man,
73:45.2
wala na siyang time na i-create yung universe.
73:47.2
So, parang imposible magkaroon
73:49.2
ng Diyos. Yan naman ang point niya.
73:51.2
Doon naman ako
73:53.2
kontra doon sa part ng God na yan.
73:55.2
Pero yung buong concept niya,
73:57.2
agree naman ako doon.
73:59.2
Kasi if you agree with him,
74:01.2
you also agree na
74:03.2
there is no need for a creator.
74:05.2
Yun kasi yung thesis nung sinabi niya.
74:07.2
Doon lang dito sa part na yan, ako tumutul.
74:09.2
Kailangan mag-agree ka 100%
74:11.2
dun sa...
74:13.2
If you see something that...
74:15.2
Bro, kasi nga,
74:17.2
science is not about
74:19.2
your opinion and what you feel.
74:21.2
It's about facts.
74:23.2
Yung book naman
74:25.2
ni Stephen Hawking,
74:27.2
some of his...
74:29.2
May mga na-disprove na rin
74:31.2
ng mga teori siya. Diba?
74:33.2
Like?
74:35.2
We can look it up.
74:37.2
Can you look it up?
74:39.2
Meron mga nag-disagree sa kanya.
74:41.2
Okay.
74:43.2
So, this is my...
74:45.2
Si Stephen Hawking kasi
74:47.2
is a theoretical physicist.
74:49.2
Just like...
74:51.2
Si Albert Einstein
74:53.2
is also
74:55.2
a theoretical physicist.
74:57.2
Kasi i-explain lang natin
74:59.2
kung ano yung theoretical physicist.
75:01.2
Nakakainis kasi dito.
75:03.2
Teka lang ha. Nakakainis lang kasi dito
75:05.2
kasi they're trying to say that
75:07.2
this is my stand.
75:09.2
Of course, I want to understand the universe
75:11.2
in the simplest manner.
75:13.2
If I can accept...
75:15.2
Kunyari, inaccept
75:17.2
that there is a grand design.
75:19.2
Hindi nga.
75:21.2
Kung gusto kong i-accept yun,
75:23.2
then there's no more questions to be asked.
75:25.2
But the thing is, there is always questions
75:27.2
to be asked. There's no such thing
75:29.2
as the last question.
75:31.2
Kasi laging
75:33.2
may tanong na...
75:35.2
Pwede mong itanong.
75:37.2
Yung sinasabi mo kasi kanina,
75:39.2
yung let's say dun sa black hole,
75:41.2
ang tawag dun is yung
75:43.2
science of the gaps
75:45.2
na tinatawag.
75:47.2
Yung god of the gaps kasi
75:49.2
parang kung hindi mo na alam ang sagot,
75:51.2
it must be God.
75:53.2
Pero yung science of the gaps naman,
75:55.2
pag hindi mo alam, let's say, anong nangyayari
75:57.2
sa black hole,
75:59.2
parang one day science will figure it out.
76:01.2
Yun naman yung science of the gaps.
76:03.2
Kasi hindi natin alam yun.
76:05.2
We don't know that.
76:07.2
Ang sinasabi ko, if I don't know something,
76:09.2
I don't know it.
76:11.2
Pero that doesn't mean
76:13.2
somebody else will not know it
76:15.2
in the future.
76:17.2
We don't know. Malay mo, hindi natin ma-solve.
76:21.2
Ako kasi, like I said dati,
76:23.2
fifty-fifty ako dyan.
76:25.2
Fifty-fifty ako sa trade.
76:27.2
Pero huwag na natin
76:29.2
i-explain yun. Mapapahaba pa lang tayo.
76:31.2
Maybe...
76:33.2
Very close to zero kasi.
76:35.2
Yun ang pinagkaiba natin.
76:37.2
Ikaw, very close to zero ka.
76:39.2
Ako, fifty-fifty.
76:41.2
Oo.
76:43.2
Why?
76:45.2
Kasi hindi mo talaga alam.
76:47.2
Diba?
76:49.2
If the option is
76:51.2
there is God
76:53.2
and there is none, edi fifty-fifty yun.
76:55.2
Eto ah. Kunyari,
76:57.2
we prove that
76:59.2
kunyari lang ah,
77:01.2
that yung
77:03.2
quantum fluctuation
77:05.2
was the initial state of the universe.
77:07.2
There was nothing and there was something.
77:09.2
Because ah,
77:11.2
sub-atomic particles
77:13.2
appear out of nowhere.
77:15.2
For whatever reason they have,
77:17.2
it just happens.
77:19.2
What if we learn that as
77:21.2
yun yung initial state of the universe?
77:23.2
Then,
77:25.2
ibig sabihin dun,
77:27.2
we already know how everything started.
77:29.2
Therefore, if we know everything
77:31.2
that started,
77:33.2
alam na na,
77:35.2
and it's just a matter of tracing it back to
77:37.2
it all, parang alam na natin
77:39.2
na the universe evolved
77:41.2
from this initial
77:43.2
state
77:45.2
of sub-atomic particles to this
77:47.2
grand cosmos
77:49.2
na ngayon natin. Diba?
77:51.2
So, get mo?
77:53.2
I'm just saying sa'yo, bro, na
77:55.2
if we figure out the initial
77:57.2
state of the universe, na
77:59.2
hindi talaga siya God, then there is no God.
78:01.2
Exact, yan yung
78:03.2
ipuprove nun.
78:05.2
There is no grand design. Everything just happens
78:07.2
because it just
78:09.2
happens. For whatever reason.
78:11.2
For no reason at all.
78:13.2
Pero if you listen to what you said, you said if.
78:15.2
Diba? If.
78:17.2
O nga, of course!
78:19.2
Hindi pa naman natin alam.
78:21.2
I am not here to prove.
78:23.2
Bro, I am not here to prove.
78:25.2
Si Garabi kasi, ang sinasabi nya,
78:27.2
parang naniniwala
78:29.2
siya.
78:31.2
I am not here to prove.
78:33.2
Ang ifs, parehas lang kayo.
78:35.2
Diba? Actually, ano ko,
78:37.2
agnostic din ako dati.
78:39.2
Hindi kami parehas. Kasi ako,
78:41.2
I am basing it to the current
78:43.2
to the current research.
78:45.2
He is basing it
78:47.2
based on his faith.
78:49.2
Sa nabasa niya nung bata siya
78:51.2
hanggang sa tumanda siya.
78:53.2
Meron siyang logic
78:55.2
behind that.
78:57.2
Sabi niya namin creatively.
78:59.2
He believes, napadod kayo video eh.
79:01.2
Ang narinig ko ba
79:03.2
yung mga arguments niya kanina?
79:05.2
All his arguments.
79:07.2
Hindi kasi buo yun.
79:09.2
What the fuck is that, bro?
79:11.2
How about yung
79:13.2
argument niya about DNA?
79:15.2
Diba? May
79:17.2
specific instructions
79:19.2
to
79:21.2
create humans.
79:23.2
Yes, and we can also
79:25.2
explain that away using evolution.
79:27.2
Again, it takes...
79:29.2
Evolution. Diba?
79:31.2
It happens.
79:33.2
It's just how it happens.
79:35.2
Entropy. Entropy ang
79:37.2
explanation sa evolution.
79:39.2
Move to complex things.
79:41.2
That's basically what
79:43.2
entropy is.
79:45.2
There's no need for a reason
79:47.2
for things to happen. They just happen.
79:49.2
Itong pagkagaya ng
79:51.2
podcast na to, it happens because
79:53.2
may reason tayo. Pero the thing is,
79:55.2
there are some things that
79:57.2
it just happens. Diba?
79:59.2
Parang if
80:01.2
our planet explodes right
80:03.2
now, who will miss it?
80:05.2
Tayo. Pero who else? Wala na.
80:07.2
You know why? Kasi nobody cares.
80:09.2
The universe
80:11.2
doesn't care about you.
80:15.2
I suppose we will never
80:17.2
figure it out.
80:19.2
Kasi far smarter people than us
80:21.2
are struggling with this idea.
80:23.2
And if... Gayun to
80:25.2
explain
80:27.2
to explain
80:29.2
to explain
80:31.2
God kasi,
80:33.2
you
80:35.2
you
80:37.2
nag
80:39.2
nagre-rely heavily on
80:41.2
science base. And that's fine.
80:43.2
Wala naman problema doon.
80:45.2
To prove
80:47.2
God naman kasi,
80:49.2
very little
80:51.2
scientific method.
80:53.2
I don't know kung...
80:55.2
Walang scientific method.
80:57.2
You just have to believe in faith.
80:59.2
Come on, man.
81:01.2
Ang main
81:03.2
tool ng isang
81:05.2
magpo-prove
81:07.2
ng God is
81:09.2
philosophy.
81:11.2
Yung mga...
81:13.2
hindi lang philosophy.
81:15.2
Kasi...
81:17.2
Paano ba?
81:19.2
More philosophical
81:21.2
Has philosophy
81:23.2
ever cured anything
81:25.2
in your understanding?
81:27.2
Has it ever cured
81:29.2
common cold?
81:31.2
How?
81:33.2
Philosophy has structured the world.
81:37.2
Democracy
81:39.2
came from philosophical thoughts.
81:41.2
It's structured our society.
81:43.2
I'm being
81:45.2
sarcastic, of course.
81:47.2
Ibig lang
81:49.2
sabihin ng scientific understanding
81:51.2
doesn't require
81:53.2
philosophy.
81:55.2
The structure of
81:57.2
knowledge, fine.
81:59.2
Pero that's being
82:01.2
philosophical about philosophy.
82:03.2
Alam mo yun.
82:05.2
There are things that
82:07.2
science cannot answer.
82:09.2
Sometimes
82:11.2
you would resort to
82:13.2
philosophy.
82:15.2
Let's say,
82:17.2
bakit masama
82:19.2
ang pumatay?
82:21.2
Sinong may sabing
82:23.2
masama ang pumatay?
82:25.2
Bakit yung mga
82:27.2
Nazis sa kanila
82:29.2
hindi masama pumatay
82:31.2
ng Jews? Pero
82:33.2
nung nagkaroon ng tribunal,
82:35.2
people determined, kasi
82:37.2
legal sa kanila yun.
82:39.2
Napatayin nila yung Jews.
82:41.2
Pero nung nagkaroon ng
82:43.2
trial, people said
82:45.2
that kahit legal sa inyo yan,
82:47.2
it is an evil thing to do.
82:51.2
Kung gusto mong
82:53.2
ma-preserve yung population, don't
82:55.2
kill each other.
82:57.2
Pero yun nga
82:59.2
yung gusto ng mga
83:01.2
Germans.
83:07.2
Evolutionarily speaking, it favors
83:09.2
them. Kasi tatanggalin
83:11.2
na yung competition.
83:17.2
Mas maganda kung hindi.
83:19.2
Mas na-discover natin. Pag mas diverse yung
83:21.2
gene pool natin, mas okay.
83:23.2
My point kasi is
83:25.2
yung pagiging
83:27.2
goodness can be
83:29.2
subjective.
83:31.2
What kind of scientific
83:33.2
method will you do?
83:35.2
Para-improve ito.
83:39.2
Scientific method
83:41.2
is basically useless in that
83:43.2
debate. Yun lang ang punto ko dun.
83:45.2
You would need philosophy.
83:47.2
Philosophical discussion
83:49.2
about these kinds of
83:51.2
things.
83:55.2
In an evolutionary
83:57.2
perspective, even our brains
83:59.2
has evolved to have
84:01.2
a social function. Kasi
84:03.2
we work better as a team.
84:05.2
Do you know this?
84:09.2
Even our brains
84:11.2
has evolved.
84:13.2
Naturally speaking,
84:15.2
social beings
84:17.2
ang humans.
84:21.2
We don't really need philosophy
84:23.2
for that. You just have to understand
84:25.2
na it's better for us not to
84:27.2
kill each other.
84:29.2
If you wanna go deeper dun sa DNA shit
84:31.2
nga, sige. Mas
84:33.2
diverse yung
84:35.2
gene pool natin, mas maganda.
84:37.2
Ayan.
84:39.2
Integrate ko na.
84:41.2
I disagree about
84:43.2
dun sa
84:45.2
kasi yung
84:47.2
pagiging good or bad
84:49.2
nung killing. Kasi we
84:51.2
right now, kaya nga
84:53.2
natin pinapakulong yung mga tao
84:55.2
na pumapatay dahil
84:57.2
sa atin, masama yun.
84:59.2
O di kinuntahan mo na yung sarili mo?
85:01.2
Bakit? Kung yun yung position mo.
85:03.2
Hindi kasi, hindi yun nga.
85:05.2
Ibig sabihin, we have determined
85:07.2
that it's an evil thing to do.
85:09.2
Because?
85:11.2
Because of philosophy or because
85:13.2
depende kung saan mo
85:15.2
titignan eh. Pero ako, I'm
85:17.2
steaming down. Ang dadam kasi, is bakit masama
85:19.2
yung pumatay? Kasi
85:21.2
may mga, if you go back
85:23.2
far enough in time,
85:25.2
there would be a time
85:27.2
na pag pinatayan mo yung isang
85:29.2
kasama mo sa tribo,
85:31.2
o halimbawa, naglalakad lang
85:33.2
kayo, mga homonins kayo,
85:35.2
mga neanderthals kayo,
85:37.2
hindi ka mabibilang go.
85:39.2
Kasi nga, mas okay na
85:41.2
hindi tayo magpatayan.
85:43.2
Siyempre.
85:45.2
Kasi nag-aaway yung mga tao,
85:47.2
hindi mo may iwasan yun.
85:49.2
Pero,
85:51.2
very, very, I suppose
85:53.2
quickly,
85:55.2
people decided na masama yan.
85:57.2
It doesn't do us any good.
85:59.2
And if you,
86:01.2
kasi pag pumatay ka, you not only just
86:03.2
kill a person,
86:05.2
you make,
86:07.2
you create,
86:09.2
tawag dito, turmoil
86:11.2
dun sa grupo nyo. Kasi yung mga
86:13.2
kamag-anak, magagalit sa'yo eh.
86:15.2
Diba? Yung mga natira.
86:17.2
Naglife pala si Nelo.
86:19.2
Diba kung may kapatid dyan,
86:21.2
o kaya yung tatay nyan,
86:23.2
yun.
86:25.2
So, anyway.
86:27.2
Tapusin na natin to.
86:29.2
Hindi matatapos to. Ituloy natin to.
86:31.2
Para sa mga part 2, may
86:33.2
mapag-usapan ba tayo. Okay?
86:35.2
Eto, last na.
86:37.2
Last na. Pagbigyan nyo na ako
86:39.2
isang topic.
86:41.2
Masyadong mabigat nung mga
86:43.2
topics na hinandaan nyo. Ito lang naman
86:45.2
ang nakayanan ko. Teka.
86:47.2
Hindi pa nga kami nag-e-start
86:49.2
ni Garawi. Parang wala lang yun.
86:51.2
Preliminary pa nga lang yun.
86:55.2
Eh, di ba pa natapos yung ano mo,
86:57.2
Garawi?
86:59.2
Hindi. Akin, yun lang naman yung pinaka-point
87:01.2
ko dun eh. Parang gusto ko ipoint out
87:03.2
kayo, Nico David, na yung nalalaman
87:05.2
ni Nico David is fate din yan.
87:07.2
Kung sa definition
87:09.2
of fate.
87:11.2
So, disagree na lang
87:13.2
muna kayo. Okay?
87:15.2
Ito na ang aking
87:17.2
pambato.
87:19.2
Teka.
87:23.2
Billy Arte para sa last topic.
87:25.2
Billy Arte?
87:27.2
Nasan ba si Billy?
87:29.2
Pwede si Billy Arte dito.
87:31.2
Click mo na. Bagong member na
87:33.2
palagang.
87:35.2
Click mo na, Billy.
87:39.2
Si Melod, binitray tayo
87:41.2
ni Melo, pare. Bigla na lang
87:43.2
nag-live. Wala niyang Melo.
87:45.2
Nag-live?
87:47.2
Wala.
87:53.2
Teka. Ito, ito.
87:55.2
Nawala si...
87:59.2
Ewan ko. Hintayin pa natin
88:01.2
si Billy. Hindi. Susulpot na lang yun.
88:03.2
Pero ito. Ito ang aking
88:05.2
topic.
88:07.2
Nasan yun?
88:11.2
Ito!
88:13.2
Nadine
88:15.2
Lustre is making a case
88:17.2
for braless
88:19.2
OOTDs.
88:21.2
Ano
88:23.2
masasabi nyo dyan?
88:25.2
Culture naman tayo, diba?
88:27.2
Pinapauso na nga nitong si
88:29.2
Nadine Lustre
88:31.2
hindi pagsasuot ng bra.
88:35.2
Well, her body
88:37.2
her rules siguro.
88:41.2
Ito, Atty. Rizzi,
88:43.2
question ko sa'yo.
88:45.2
Is this kind of a
88:47.2
violation sa article
88:49.2
201? Ang paboritong...
88:51.2
Obscenities? Yung anong
88:53.2
ginagawa ng sex police natin yan?
88:55.2
Yes, yes, yes.
89:03.2
Hindi pa. Para sa akin, hindi pa.
89:05.2
Hindi. Bakit po?
89:07.2
May saplot pa eh.
89:09.2
May damit eh.
89:11.2
Parang ano naman yan eh.
89:13.2
Parang camel toe na rin yan eh.
89:15.2
Pag nakikita ko yung camel toe ng babayo
89:17.2
sinabagan, hindi eh.
89:19.2
Parang may nakatotok.
89:21.2
Parang kang hinohold up
89:23.2
pag kausap mo ganyan, diba?
89:27.2
Malamig lang.
89:29.2
Yan ang excuse, malamig lang.
89:31.2
Pero...
89:33.2
Hindi, pero ito.
89:35.2
This is a cultural thing.
89:37.2
Kasi itong braless
89:39.2
ano na yan,
89:41.2
nakikita, it's a western thing eh.
89:43.2
Uso yan sa...
89:45.2
Uso yan dun sa mga napapanood
89:47.2
sa Instagram, diba?
89:49.2
Sa Hollywood.
89:51.2
Sila naman ang mga nagpapauson
89:53.2
yan eh. Yung pagbabrah.
89:55.2
Pag hindi pagbabrah.
89:57.2
And...
89:59.2
Ito yung insight ko dito.
90:03.2
Sa akin, naiintindihan ko naman yun.
90:05.2
Your body, your choice, diba?
90:07.2
And...
90:09.2
In case of Nadine Lustre,
90:11.2
obviously, she is a very pretty woman.
90:13.2
And...
90:15.2
Kumbaga, I can't yan.
90:17.2
Kumbaga, I wouldn't mind
90:19.2
seeing her like that, like this.
90:21.2
Diba? Wala akong balak
90:23.2
gawing masama sa kanya.
90:25.2
Pero...
90:27.2
Okay siya. Okay siya sa akin.
90:29.2
Yun nga lang.
90:31.2
If people...
90:33.2
Yun nga lang.
90:35.2
If other women
90:37.2
who
90:39.2
are not living
90:41.2
her kind of life
90:43.2
would be influenced by this.
90:45.2
Imagine kung let's say
90:47.2
nasa palengke ka.
90:49.2
Yun ang buhay mo.
90:51.2
Tapos magbabrales ka dun. Tapos ganyan kakaganda.
90:53.2
Diba?
90:55.2
O kaya magmiminiskirt ka.
90:57.2
Tapos nagjijip ka lang.
90:59.2
Diba?
91:01.2
Kasi itong mga ganito,
91:03.2
parang when she goes to a mall,
91:05.2
magmo-mall yan sa ano? May sarili siyang
91:07.2
kotse. Meron siyang
91:09.2
may privacy siya.
91:11.2
She has the security.
91:13.2
Malamang may mga kasama pa yan.
91:15.2
Or...
91:17.2
And she goes to places na
91:19.2
na...
91:21.2
less
91:23.2
likely na may mangharas sa kanya.
91:25.2
Diba? Pero let's say
91:27.2
kung ordinaryong barangay ka,
91:29.2
tapos may influence ka
91:31.2
ng katulad ni Nadine.
91:33.2
Ah si Nadine nga. Ano eh?
91:35.2
Hindi nagbabra. Diba?
91:37.2
Sometimes it could be dangerous eh.
91:39.2
What do you think?
91:43.2
Yung mga maniak na
91:45.2
lalapit sa kanya.
91:47.2
Tapos makikita mo ito. Si Nadine Lustre nga.
91:49.2
Walang bra. Tapos empowering
91:51.2
daw yan eh.
91:53.2
I'm an empowered woman. Diba? So...
91:55.2
Well, eto na lang.
91:57.2
I wouldn't want my
91:59.2
family members to do that. Kasi I know
92:01.2
the culture of Filipinos.
92:03.2
Hindi ako komportable
92:05.2
na makita yung mga mahal ko sa buhay
92:07.2
na ganyan. And I'm not saying
92:09.2
this to this or to
92:11.2
ah to wag bigyan
92:13.2
ng anong tawag dito. Hindi...
92:15.2
Anong tawag doon?
92:17.2
Invalidate si
92:19.2
si Miss Nadine Lustre. Pero
92:21.2
personally, I wouldn't be comfortable with
92:23.2
my loved ones na
92:25.2
doing that. Ako nga pag naka-shorts
92:27.2
kunyari may
92:29.2
may ano. Meron
92:31.2
may kunyari meron akong kikitai
92:33.2
na or merong
92:35.2
may bibisita sa akin dito.
92:37.2
Nawala lang mga na-fred na babae ganyan.
92:39.2
I would not
92:41.2
want them
92:43.2
na mag-shorts.
92:45.2
Kasi kunyari mag-aangkas
92:47.2
or mag-gagrab or something
92:49.2
or magko-commute. I would not want
92:51.2
them na naka-shorts. Kasi nga
92:53.2
there might be instances
92:55.2
na baka mamanyak. Ganon.
92:57.2
So, para iwas na lang din
92:59.2
doon, mag-punch
93:01.2
ng regular.
93:03.2
Di ba? Pwede naman tanggalin yun pagdating
93:05.2
dito. Hindi, joke lang.
93:07.2
Hindi.
93:09.2
No, yun yung anong
93:11.2
Ikaw, Garawi, anong
93:13.2
masasabi mo dito? Haram, haram to eh, no?
93:15.2
Siguro maikumpara ko siya sa
93:17.2
ano, sa
93:19.2
wallet.
93:21.2
Okay lang ba na yung wallet
93:23.2
ko is 50% nakalabas sa
93:25.2
bulsa? Nalakad ako
93:27.2
ng ano? Wala lang, yun yung
93:29.2
gusto kong style. So,
93:31.2
siguro naman, walang aawad sa akin doon, karapatan
93:33.2
ko yun. Pero, yung risk
93:35.2
noon, na siyempre, risk na
93:37.2
malaglag, risk na madukutan ako
93:39.2
or may mga tao na matitempt talaga
93:41.2
kasi kitang-kita nila na parang
93:43.2
napakadaling dukutin na ito.
93:45.2
So, hindi ko
93:47.2
sila, hindi ko sila masisisi
93:49.2
itong halimbawa eh,
93:51.2
madukutan na lang ako
93:53.2
kasi yun yung style na gusto ko eh
93:55.2
nakalawit yung kalahati ng wallet
93:57.2
ko eh. Style ko yun, yun yung
93:59.2
yun yung forma ko eh. Kaya lang
94:01.2
hindi nakateis yung isang tao
94:03.2
hinablot niya.
94:05.2
Para sa akin
94:07.2
situational. Parang
94:09.2
hindi ka lang magpa-formal attire para
94:11.2
pumunta sa kalengke para bumili ng pagkain
94:13.2
diba?
94:15.2
Oo, diba?
94:17.2
Let's say...
94:19.2
It depends on the place. Kung saan ka pupunta.
94:21.2
But the thing is
94:23.2
there is a, there are platforms
94:25.2
like this, ito,
94:27.2
Cosmopolitan. Diba? Ano yung
94:29.2
sabi niya? Nadine Lustre
94:31.2
is making a case for Braless
94:33.2
diba? Making a case for Braless
94:35.2
OOTDs. And we love
94:37.2
her for it. Ibig sabihin
94:39.2
they are cheering this kind of behavior
94:41.2
diba? And
94:43.2
if an impressionable
94:45.2
young girl
94:47.2
sees this and
94:49.2
idol nila sila din Lustre,
94:51.2
diba? It could, it could, ano me?
94:53.2
Ayun, dito na
94:55.2
plus BDRT. So, it could, it could
94:57.2
affect
94:59.2
her mentality
95:01.2
about being
95:03.2
Braless and had an impression na
95:05.2
na this is
95:07.2
okay. I should be safe
95:09.2
and I should be able to impose
95:11.2
my desire
95:13.2
to not wear a bra
95:15.2
or wear skimpy clothes
95:17.2
in public anywhere I go.
95:19.2
And pag binastos mo ko,
95:21.2
kupal ka. Diba?
95:23.2
Kung may kasalanan. Pero
95:25.2
diba? Pero dapat hindi mo
95:27.2
kumbastusin. Diba?
95:29.2
Yun yung ano eh, yun ang
95:31.2
kumbaga
95:33.2
may, hindi ko, of course
95:35.2
I'm not condoning yung pangungupal
95:37.2
yung pambabastos ng mga babae.
95:39.2
Pero may mga kumbal nalagaan
95:41.2
kumbastusin ang mga babae.
95:43.2
BDRT, okay ka na? Tara.
95:45.2
Hindi. Ako, ako,
95:47.2
merong simple tanong yung
95:49.2
mami ko sakin eh.
95:51.2
Para, parang yung
95:53.2
the mom test yung tawag
95:55.2
dito eh. Kasi parang
95:57.2
gusto mo bang ginagawa yan sa kapatid
95:59.2
mong babae? So, ako
96:01.2
ang sagot ko, no. Ibig sabihin
96:03.2
hindi siya okay. So,
96:05.2
pag inapply ko yung logic na yun
96:07.2
dito or yung test na yun dito kay Nadine,
96:09.2
hindi talaga kaya bro eh.
96:11.2
I mean maganda si Nadine pero
96:13.2
I wouldn't want that
96:15.2
for my, for example, my daughter or
96:17.2
my sisters,
96:19.2
parang hindi ako comfortable na
96:21.2
makita silang ganyan.
96:23.2
Meron pang movement sa
96:25.2
US
96:27.2
yung freedom nipple.
96:29.2
Freedom nipple, yung talagang
96:31.2
ano, yung
96:33.2
it should be okay
96:35.2
daw for women
96:37.2
to go topless in public
96:39.2
and
96:41.2
hindi ka pwedeng
96:43.2
malibugan sa kanya.
96:45.2
Seryoso ba yan?
96:47.2
Seryoso ba yan?
96:49.2
Hindi ba parang
96:51.2
ano yun, hindi ba parang
96:53.2
it's a very human thing to
96:55.2
you know, feel the need
96:57.2
pag may nakita ganyan.
96:59.2
Kasi nga, mga feminist na ano to eh.
97:01.2
Billy RT,
97:03.2
take it away.
97:05.2
Oh yeah, yeah.
97:07.2
Narinig nyo po ba ako? Sorry ah.
97:09.2
Atagal, late ako.
97:11.2
So I think,
97:13.2
I think in a greater scheme of things,
97:15.2
ang problema kasi,
97:17.2
ang mga nag-originate ng ganyang theory
97:19.2
at saka ganyang paniniwala,
97:21.2
is because of
97:23.2
the feminist. And the bad thing about
97:25.2
feminists is they only believe
97:27.2
things when it benefits them.
97:29.2
But if it's not benefiting them,
97:31.2
but that's the gender role responsibility
97:33.2
of a male and a female,
97:35.2
hindi sila nag-agree.
97:37.2
Just for example,
97:39.2
isang argument is,
97:41.2
kapag doon nakikipag-date ka sa babae,
97:43.2
dapat, ang babae
97:45.2
ay nililibre ng lalaki.
97:47.2
Di ba? Tama?
97:49.2
But, the argument of
97:51.2
the sabi na natin
97:53.2
conservative men,
97:55.2
is that kung manlilibre kami
97:57.2
sa first date natin,
97:59.2
may condition ba na pagkatas
98:01.2
ang first date natin,
98:03.2
you can give us sex.
98:05.2
And then, ang argument ng feminists is,
98:07.2
no! Because
98:09.2
our body is our choice.
98:11.2
You cannot tell us what to do even on
98:13.2
our first date. So, ang banat
98:15.2
naman ng conservative men is,
98:17.2
okay, so if that's
98:19.2
the case, then
98:21.2
what are you offering men?
98:23.2
Kasi kung may
98:25.2
offer mo lang sa amin is
98:27.2
actually your body, and to have sex with us,
98:29.2
and to get, you know,
98:31.2
to be pregnant and have baby, what else can you
98:33.2
give? So,
98:35.2
sabi na, so mostly
98:37.2
ang mga feminists, nawawalan sila ng
98:39.2
nawawalan sila ng train of thought
98:41.2
to answer that. Tapos ang paliwanag
98:43.2
ng mga conservative men, it's because of
98:45.2
feminists are trying to
98:47.2
convert every each woman
98:49.2
to be masculine.
98:51.2
To think about what they feel,
98:53.2
what they want, on a specific
98:55.2
type of responsibility
98:57.2
na literally
98:59.2
on gender role perspective,
99:01.2
men are designed to lead,
99:03.2
men are designed to think
99:05.2
critically, and women are
99:07.2
designed to be emotional
99:09.2
and less,
99:11.2
mas less desirable sa kanila
99:13.2
yung humarap sa mga
99:15.2
problema sa buhay, compared
99:17.2
to the men. And that's,
99:19.2
I think, why
99:21.2
feminists nowadays, and even
99:23.2
like the, and I would say
99:25.2
yung pag-i-introduce
99:27.2
ng LGBTQ, kahit
99:29.2
sa film, sa music,
99:31.2
sa school, dito sa states,
99:33.2
I would say that was the
99:35.2
birth of it. When they start
99:37.2
to have the
99:39.2
what you call
99:41.2
you need to, parang you need to have
99:43.2
freedom on your own
99:45.2
self-theory nila ng mga
99:47.2
feminists, that's the start. Na
99:49.2
hindi mo pwede kaming
99:51.2
i-argue sa gusto namin, kasi ito yung magpapasaya
99:53.2
sa amin, ito yung mag
99:55.2
ito yung magbibigay sa amin
99:57.2
ng freedom, pero honestly,
99:59.2
people don't care about your
100:01.2
own perspective in your life.
100:03.2
Ang problema lang kasi dito,
100:05.2
tumitindi na yung feminist movement
100:07.2
to a point na kailangan i-insist
100:09.2
sa bawat isa, na yung
100:11.2
pananaw ko sa buhay, yung pronouns na ginagamit
100:13.2
ko, kailangan, you need to abide
100:15.2
my rules, or else, at work,
100:17.2
you get, masisisanti ka,
100:19.2
which I actually noticed,
100:21.2
isang katrabaho ko before,
100:23.2
when I was in Orlando, sa Florida,
100:25.2
he was
100:27.2
subjected to
100:29.2
got terminated because nagkamali
100:31.2
siya ng pronouns, doon sa
100:33.2
kasama namin sa trabaho, and it become a big
100:35.2
issue, kaya niletgo na lang
100:37.2
yung affected individuals.
100:39.2
Ano yung pronoun nung
100:41.2
day-dem?
100:43.2
Day, yeah, day-dem.
100:45.2
Ano yun, ayaw niya? Ayaw niyang sabihin?
100:47.2
Ayaw niya kasi po, ano eh,
100:49.2
yung lalaki,
100:51.2
conservative republican,
100:53.2
wala siyang pakialam,
100:55.2
even if in front of the bosses
100:57.2
namin,
100:59.2
he will insist na, no, you're
101:01.2
female. Eh parang nasaktan,
101:03.2
tapos parang
101:05.2
nagu-hurumentado yung na-affected na
101:07.2
individual,
101:09.2
naging issue sa buong opisina,
101:11.2
hindi naman namin alam na, there is
101:13.2
like minority of 5%
101:15.2
of LGBTQ na nagtatrabaho
101:17.2
at that time. So parang
101:19.2
pinabura ng kumpanya, and parang mawala
101:21.2
na lang sa, mawalang issue, kasi
101:23.2
ang isa
101:25.2
kasing bagay na kailangan nyo malaman
101:27.2
dito sa states right now, ang
101:29.2
diversity
101:31.2
equality and inclusivity,
101:33.2
DEI, is already
101:35.2
implemented because of the feminist.
101:37.2
And one of which is, para
101:39.2
matanggal yung sabihin na natin
101:41.2
pagiging racist mo
101:43.2
sa ganong gender,
101:45.2
you are subjected
101:47.2
na kailangan
101:49.2
umayon ka doon sa
101:51.2
you know, sa characteristics
101:53.2
nila,
101:55.2
na gusto nila mangyari sa mundo nila,
101:57.2
kailangan sabihin mo yung right pronoun,
101:59.2
kapag ka nag, ano ka, you're already
102:01.2
parang ina-isolate mo na sila,
102:03.2
which is not a good thing in a company
102:05.2
and that's what they're doing.
102:07.2
Kaya yung time na yun, hindi rin sya
102:09.2
makapaghabla, kasi may rason
102:11.2
yung kumpanya na, well,
102:13.2
you are
102:15.2
talking shit about this person, about
102:17.2
her gender,
102:19.2
so hindi ka pwede maghabla, counter
102:21.2
to this person.
102:23.2
So yun yung naging issue.
102:25.2
Tanong ka, I just wanna
102:27.2
ask you, if you don't mind, Billy,
102:29.2
are you
102:31.2
a conservative or
102:33.2
liberal? Conservative. Conservative ka?
102:35.2
Okay. Conservative Republican.
102:37.2
Okay, so Republican ka talaga?
102:39.2
Mm-hmm.
102:41.2
Trump supporter.
102:43.2
Maga. Maga Republican ka ba?
102:45.2
Yup.
102:47.2
Kaya alam mo, gusto kong
102:49.2
sabihin, eto, nagiinit ang
102:51.2
dugo ko dito sa picture na ito, yung
102:53.2
kay Nadine Lustre. Alam nyo, gusto kong
102:55.2
sorry ah, pero ang gusto kong
102:57.2
sabihin dito, eto yung
102:59.2
pagstart ng
103:01.2
pagkasira
103:03.2
ng gender role responsibility
103:05.2
between male and female. Actually, yun yung
103:07.2
di ba, this is how the
103:09.2
culture war started pala
103:11.2
in the US. Paganyan-ganyan.
103:13.2
And once
103:15.2
these things get normalized,
103:17.2
parang sunod-sunod na yan.
103:19.2
Parang, di ba?
103:21.2
And to
103:23.2
be honest with you, dapat
103:25.2
conservative men nowadays
103:27.2
should stand up with
103:29.2
the conservative women
103:31.2
na naniniwala
103:33.2
pa rin sa tamang
103:35.2
gender responsibility of
103:37.2
individualism ng
103:39.2
lalakit babae. I get it, we need to respect
103:41.2
LGBT community, I get it.
103:43.2
But for us, men,
103:45.2
to normalize this situation,
103:47.2
you post yourself without
103:49.2
bra online. What do you think
103:51.2
about men would think about you?
103:53.2
Don't get me wrong, girls, pero
103:55.2
men, most of the time,
103:57.2
we think that women like this
103:59.2
are hoes.
104:01.2
No.
104:03.2
I'm not even
104:05.2
kidding about this. Even like
104:07.2
locker room talk,
104:09.2
kapag nakipag-usap ka sa mga lalaki,
104:11.2
outside camera, outside public,
104:13.2
most of the time,
104:15.2
we think about this kind of girls are
104:17.2
hoes. Kasi you're
104:19.2
provoking, di ba?
104:21.2
Not a lot of people,
104:23.2
even men, are willing to
104:25.2
admit that they
104:27.2
get involved in
104:29.2
locker room talks like that.
104:31.2
Ibig sabihin yung locker room talk, ano yan?
104:33.2
Chismis
104:35.2
ng mga lalaki.
104:37.2
Chismis, and minsan, most likely,
104:39.2
nagiging sexual, parang
104:41.2
itong chick na to,
104:43.2
parang sarap niyan, di ba?
104:45.2
Parang ganun.
104:47.2
And especially,
104:49.2
when you get older, di ba?
104:51.2
Ako kasi,
104:53.2
naranasan ko yan, di ba?
104:55.2
Promotor pa nga ako ng mga
104:57.2
locker room talks na ganyan.
104:59.2
Not necessarily we're in a locker room.
105:01.2
Pero, it's
105:05.2
ewan ko eh, di ba?
105:07.2
Misan, napagdadaanan mo
105:09.2
talaga. Pero,
105:11.2
I'm not proud of it now,
105:13.2
pero I cannot also
105:15.2
erase it.
105:17.2
It is,
105:19.2
nalulungkot lang ako, kuya,
105:21.2
in a bigger spectrum.
105:23.2
Kasi kuya, Nadine Lustre is famous
105:25.2
both ages, like
105:27.2
younger, below 18,
105:29.2
and above 18.
105:31.2
I cannot fathom the idea
105:33.2
that how can we,
105:35.2
conservative men, for example,
105:37.2
can discuss this openly
105:39.2
to kids, to men,
105:41.2
to women, below 18.
105:43.2
That this is something unnatural.
105:45.2
Not normal.
105:47.2
Not the basic way how women
105:49.2
should treat themselves
105:51.2
on social media.
105:53.2
How can we explain to them, kung nakikita
105:55.2
sa post na yan,
105:57.2
ang dami nagsha-share.
105:59.2
So, under thinking,
106:01.2
it may be normal,
106:03.2
kasi napapanood sa social,
106:05.2
nakikita sa social media.
106:07.2
And I guess, that is the culture,
106:09.2
I think that's the difficulty about
106:11.2
culture war nowadays.
106:13.2
Dahil isang picture,
106:15.2
when it is being shared and liked
106:17.2
with other people,
106:19.2
people don't care about
106:21.2
what it is.
106:23.2
People only care about if it's trendy.
106:25.2
Pero ang nasisira dito,
106:27.2
yung mga batang nanonood on social media,
106:29.2
tumitingi sa social media,
106:31.2
every minute, every hour,
106:33.2
na hindi nakikita ng mga magulang,
106:35.2
anong ginagawa nila,
106:37.2
at walang open conversation.
106:39.2
Ang masakit dyan, yung mga bata,
106:41.2
nagtatanong sa kapwa,
106:43.2
kaedad nila.
106:45.2
Na yung kaedad nila, most of the time,
106:47.2
hindi rin naman nagkakaroon ng constructive thinking,
106:49.2
why these pictures are posted online.
106:51.2
Well,
106:53.2
ang thing kasi,
106:55.2
actually,
106:57.2
if you really think about it,
106:59.2
being bra-less
107:01.2
is, wala anong masama doon,
107:03.2
talaga.
107:05.2
Kasi,
107:07.2
ang mga babae, mga tao naman,
107:09.2
pinanganak naman talaga na walang bra.
107:11.2
Walang masama na hindi mag-bra.
107:13.2
Ang thing,
107:15.2
and also, there are cultures
107:17.2
who are
107:19.2
open, especially yung mga tribo.
107:21.2
Dati, sa Pilipinas,
107:23.2
may mga
107:25.2
tribo pa rin tayo na
107:27.2
okay lang
107:29.2
na nakatop-less
107:31.2
sa mga babae. In Africa,
107:33.2
and other cultures,
107:35.2
may mga ganyan talaga.
107:37.2
So,
107:39.2
actually,
107:41.2
ginagamit nga nilang argument yun.
107:43.2
Western
107:45.2
idea daw kasi,
107:47.2
yung pagbibigay
107:49.2
ng malisya sa
107:51.2
hubad na breast
107:53.2
ng isang babae.
107:55.2
May isang argument yun.
107:57.2
But the thing is,
107:59.2
iba na yung
108:01.2
kultura natin ngayon.
108:03.2
For me kasi,
108:07.2
having
108:11.2
publications like
108:13.2
Cosmopolitan, Rappler,
108:15.2
push this kind of
108:17.2
of
108:19.2
tawag dito,
108:21.2
yung gawain
108:23.2
na ganyan,
108:25.2
and
108:27.2
giving the impression to
108:29.2
young
108:31.2
women that this
108:33.2
is okay, that this
108:35.2
should be
108:37.2
respected,
108:39.2
and
108:41.2
you should be able to
108:43.2
do this. Yun na lang siguro.
108:45.2
You should be able to do this.
108:47.2
Alam mo na iisip ko, kuya,
108:49.2
yung mga sinaunang panahon,
108:51.2
remember mo yung, ano ba
108:53.2
yung porn
108:55.2
company before nauso?
108:57.2
Yung may bunny ang logo.
108:59.2
Playboy?
109:01.2
Remember,
109:03.2
Playboy before, years ago,
109:05.2
Playboy magazine is only sold
109:07.2
in adult
109:09.2
places,
109:11.2
like adult stores,
109:13.2
or online. Pero bakit
109:15.2
ngayon, anywhere you can find it.
109:17.2
Even social media,
109:19.2
even in Twitter,
109:21.2
even on
109:23.2
bookshelves, you can find it.
109:25.2
Why there was a change.
109:27.2
And if you're gonna think about it,
109:29.2
hindi naman,
109:31.2
culture lang ang nagbago,
109:33.2
pero yung edad,
109:35.2
lahat naman nagdadaan sa 0 to
109:37.2
18, and 18 and up
109:39.2
until death. Bakit
109:41.2
nagbago yung culture?
109:43.2
And I guess, that's one thing that
109:45.2
I don't agree. Maybe because
109:47.2
I'm conservative enough to say
109:49.2
na mas gusto ko
109:51.2
pa rin yung
109:53.2
mas gusto ko pa rin
109:55.2
yung
109:57.2
conservative na babae.
109:59.2
Kasi para sa akin,
110:01.2
as a guy, I think that
110:03.2
a woman should be
110:05.2
a men's territory.
110:07.2
And it shouldn't be
110:09.2
shared to everyone. Parang ganun.
110:11.2
Ganun yung idea ko.
110:13.2
Well, yung sinasabi ko
110:15.2
naman kanina, is
110:17.2
yung mga ganitong klaseng
110:19.2
ito, itong
110:21.2
gagawin mo na magbabrales
110:23.2
ka.
110:25.2
One,
110:27.2
yung kultura ng Pilipinas
110:29.2
is very different. It's a little
110:31.2
similar, pero it's very
110:33.2
different from western
110:35.2
culture
110:37.2
sa US especially.
110:39.2
There are lots of similarities
110:41.2
and there are people
110:43.2
there are enough people
110:45.2
in mainstream media
110:47.2
that knows about western culture
110:49.2
to make it appear
110:51.2
na
110:53.2
halos ganun na rin yun. Pero
110:55.2
in reality, pag
110:57.2
lumabas ka, pag kinausap mo
110:59.2
yung mga magtatako, yung mga
111:01.2
mga nagtitinda sa
111:03.2
kanyang keta, hindi nila
111:05.2
alam yan.
111:07.2
And if you're gonna
111:09.2
get your
111:11.2
your daughter's
111:13.2
influenced by
111:15.2
this kind of thinking,
111:17.2
hindi, this is yung pag
111:19.2
magbabra.
111:21.2
Pag hindi magbabra,
111:23.2
ay
111:25.2
parang karapatan mo yan.
111:27.2
Of course,
111:29.2
again, we are not condoning
111:31.2
people na mangyakis
111:33.2
ng mga walang bra.
111:35.2
Pero it's, ano eh,
111:37.2
the reality,
111:39.2
especially here,
111:41.2
is, takaw tingin
111:43.2
talaga yan. And you'll never know
111:45.2
kung anong klaseng tao
111:47.2
yung matatakaw tingin sa'yo.
111:49.2
Sana kung magtakaw tingin sa'yo na
111:51.2
may self-control.
111:53.2
Diba?
111:55.2
Yung nga yung nagtataka ako dyan eh.
111:57.2
Sinasabi nila na dapat
111:59.2
hindi natin
112:01.2
hindi natin i-describe yung mga ganyang bagay
112:03.2
sa society na something
112:05.2
to be lavish, sexual.
112:07.2
Diba? Pero kung tutuusin,
112:09.2
men are designed to be
112:11.2
sexual. Kaya nga
112:13.2
we're interested with the opposite sex.
112:15.2
Kaya nga natuto tayo makipag-sex
112:17.2
sa ibang sex.
112:19.2
Sa opposite gender
112:21.2
to have them pregnant, to have
112:23.2
kids. That's what
112:25.2
the normal way
112:27.2
gender role responsibility.
112:29.2
Ang nagiging pangit lang is,
112:31.2
and I'm gonna go back to my
112:33.2
previous comment na,
112:35.2
when feminists insert masculinity
112:37.2
with femininity.
112:39.2
Which is, ang masculine is
112:41.2
do what I want and I lead
112:43.2
the path.
112:45.2
Ang feminist naman, women
112:47.2
can do it
112:49.2
as a women
112:51.2
na pwede rin sila maging lalaki.
112:53.2
Which is ganito, I'll do what I want to do
112:55.2
pero dapat hindi mo ko tignan
112:57.2
hindi mo ko babastusin. Pero
112:59.2
it's like a law of cause and effect.
113:01.2
You're making something
113:03.2
provocative. Ano magiging
113:05.2
epekto sa lalaki na
113:07.2
huwag na po tayong
113:09.2
magpaliguliguy pa. Most of men
113:11.2
nowadays are sexually
113:13.2
hyper because of
113:15.2
porn, because of social
113:17.2
media, because of what we see
113:19.2
in any places now.
113:21.2
So if we're hyper-sexualized
113:23.2
because of what we see, makita mo to
113:25.2
in public, syempre, hindi mo
113:27.2
maka-attempt, most of the time
113:29.2
diba, magkakaroon ka ng sexual
113:31.2
arousal.
113:33.2
And I guess, especially
113:35.2
kung bata ka, diba?
113:37.2
Yung nga yung masakit e, especially
113:39.2
kapag bata ka, hindi mo namang
113:41.2
mag-discern what is sexual
113:43.2
arousal versus
113:45.2
a cause and effect theory
113:47.2
na na-push ka lang kasi
113:49.2
lalaki ka e, compared to
113:51.2
gusto mo yung babae na arous ka.
113:53.2
Hindi naman nila
113:55.2
mag-discern yun,
113:57.2
unless you're more than 18 and
113:59.2
you can think about those things, right?
114:01.2
Ang...
114:03.2
ang...
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ang pinakagusto kong i-drive
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dito sa issue about
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Nadine Lustre is
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ayan, again, the headline
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reads, Nadine Lustre
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is making a case, making
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a case. So
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these things are, ano e,
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these are things
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that attempt to
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change the culture.
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Kasi our culture right now,
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that is why it's called the culture war.
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Diba? And
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these
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things making
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it appear that
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not wearing bra
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is
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normal, na
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it's parang, there's nothing
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to see here, look at my,
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nawala siyang
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walang, there's
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nothing special about a beautiful girl
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like Nadine Lustre
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with her tits
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poking at you, diba?
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Just this, alam mo kuya,
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gusto ko ihalimbawa dyan.
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Wait lang, wait lang.
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So etong si,
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so this is,
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these are attempts
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to change the culture and this is how
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they started
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back in the 70s
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pa nga lang, 80s, diba?
115:21.2
Sa west,
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ginagawa na nila yan.
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And right now, ngayon pa lang, dahil
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dun sa woke,
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with the help of the internet na rin,
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diba, it is very,
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very easy
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for, let's say, makita nila
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sina Kent,
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sino yan? Jenner?
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Sina Kylie Jenner
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na magbabrales, diba?
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O sina Miley Cyrus.
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Basta, any,
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any influencer,
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celebrity from Hollywood,
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madaling gayahin, eh.
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Especially if they're getting millions of likes
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and it gets you clicks.
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Diba? It gets you clicks.
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And the algorithms
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pa, especially in the mid
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2010s,
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they really favor
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woke cases,
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kasi it
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creates,
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kumbaga, it generates
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clicks
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for
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websites like
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Vice, like
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BuzzFeed, diba?
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Kaya naging sikat yung mga ganyan.
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And now, ginagawa
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ng Cosmopolitan, ginagawa ng
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Rappler.
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And this is
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how they,
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this is how you change a culture.
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And if this trend continues,
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within 10 years,
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magi, we will see
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a huge
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difference. I don't know
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kung gaano kalaking difference
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kasi the thing about the
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Philippines is we are still
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very, ano eh,
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kasi pag pinanood, pag tingnan mo
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yung mga comments dito sa Facebook,
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mostly, hindi, disagree
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yung mga tao eh. Dito lang sa mga
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woke ka na Facebook
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page, hindi.
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Pero pag ilagay mo
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sa let's say, nireport ng ABS-CBN
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yan, mababashin na din dyan.
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Kasi hindi tayo
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woke. Hindi woke ang Pilipino.
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Kasi we are not ideological
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thinkers. We just
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ah,
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mas ano tayo, mas ah,
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personality-based.
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So, pag nakita, eh si Nadine,
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lalo na yung mga hater ni Nadine, diba?
117:35.2
Dahil, diba, may mga
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hater siya, eh. Diba?
117:39.2
So, yung mga fans niya, pag i-defend
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siya, pero yung mga hater niya,
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ibabash siya. Yung mga wala lang,
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nakita, ay putsik, nakaano,
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utong yan na, diba?
117:49.2
So, kung ayaw nila ng
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mga ganyang klaseng imagery,
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ibabash din siya.
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So, pero most likely,
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hindi papaboran yan.
117:59.2
For now.
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But if these
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kinds of campaigns
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gets exposed to
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children, especially,
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diba? Kasi sooner or later,
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if it
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becomes, let's say, lahat ng mga artista,
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let's say, si Andrea
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Brillantes, biglang maggaganyan.
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Si na, yung mga batang
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artista ngayon, yung mga sikat
118:23.2
sa TikTok na influencers,
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it's so easy right
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now to change
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how people
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view
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this kind of
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ano bang tawag dyan?
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Kung baga, yung
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ganyang gawain. And
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you're gonna
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have to think kung maganda
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ba yun o hindi para sa society.
118:49.2
Diba?
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To the people, do you think,
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yung mga nanonood, do you think it
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will serve the
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society, Filipino society,
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for the good or for the bad?
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Kaso kuya, ang pinaka
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problema kasi sa question mo,
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it will actually defend,
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it will actually
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depend on
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whose lens
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of eyes are you talking about?
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Are you talking about kids in school?
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Kids out of school?
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Kids at work? Diba? O yung mga
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katulad ng mga baby boomers?
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O yung mga 30 plus years old
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and above? Kasi I would say
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25 and above are a bit
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a little bit more
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conservative than
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20, sabi natin 18 and above.
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Pero the question is, pagka
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nagiging normalized na siya,
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parang
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hindi na ganoon na
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bibigyan ng criticism.
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Yun lang yung takot ko. Kunari,
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napag-uusapan natin to, we're conservative
119:49.2
na, hoy malito kasi
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nakikita yung nipples mo. Pero
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up until when? Na magkakaroon ng
119:55.2
criticism na ganoon. Kasi kapag,
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ang takot ko, pag walang nag-criticize
119:59.2
na mali ito after few years,
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nakupo.
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16 years old na anak mo, diba?
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Makikita mo na naglalakad.
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Walang bara. Sus.
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Diba? Yun yung ano.
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Slowly but surely.
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Kasi itong mga ganito,
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yung mga feminist, they are
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leftist mostly.
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Actually, all of them would be leftist.
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Diba?
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And they had
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one thing that they're really good at
120:27.2
is playing the long game.
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Kasi they know
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na hindi mo, kasi let's say,
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yung leftist,
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kasi anti-capitalist
120:37.2
dyan eh.
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So yung mga leftist sa
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US, which is a
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capitalistic nation,
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kung gusto nalang baliktarin
120:47.2
yun,
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they would need to take over the government.
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And if
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they get elected, meron pa rin
120:55.2
mga republicans na kukontrahin sila.
120:57.2
If they want to
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to
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na mapabilis
121:03.2
yung gusto
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nila,
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ang gagawin nila,
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one option would be girahin
121:11.2
nila, makipag civil war sila.
121:13.2
Pero syempre, wala namang may gusto nun.
121:15.2
Diba? At saka malakas
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ang military
121:19.2
ng US.
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So it would be, patay kayong lahat.
121:23.2
So, anong gagawin nila
121:25.2
if they want to overturn
121:27.2
the form of government?
121:29.2
They would need to change
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the culture. Kasi,
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culture,
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culture dictates
121:37.2
the policies.
121:39.2
Diba? The policies,
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kumbaga, yung politics
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is downstream
121:45.2
from culture. Ibig sabihin,
121:47.2
ano yung dinidikta ng kultura mo,
121:49.2
yun yung magiging
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mga batas, base dun sa
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gusto ng mga tao.
121:55.2
Let's say, kunyari,
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sa atin, ano bang kultura?
122:01.2
Let's say, yung ano?
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Para lang maintindihan nila
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kung yung politics is downstream
122:07.2
from culture.
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So, let's say, sa atin, yung
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ano bang magandang
122:13.2
mas klaro?
122:15.2
Sa pang Pilipino?
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Masasabi ko kasi, example dito
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sa States, kaya hindi ako makaisip eh.
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Yung, probably, yung culture
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ng, ano,
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pag-i-invite ng mga LGBTQ
122:31.2
sa US Army,
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na tinututulan ng mga conservative,
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ng mga Republican.
122:37.2
It is a big strike,
122:39.2
ano yan, with the
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conservatives, and I would say
122:43.2
the Philippine Constitution.
122:45.2
Kasi ang masakit po, ay Philippine,
122:47.2
US Constitution, kasi
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ang problema kasi doon, ang hindi alam ng publiko dito,
122:51.2
when you put an LGBTQ,
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especially trans, sa States,
122:55.2
US Army,
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they are obliged to give them
122:59.2
hormone therapy.
123:01.2
Binibigay po yan ng US Army
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and there were instances
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na nagbibigay pa sila ng
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budget
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and education.
123:11.2
Just to put these people
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on a specific task,
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on a specific role, na
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gender-affirming
123:19.2
sa kanila. Nakakatawa nga po
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isipin kasi nangyayari siya
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at ginagasasa ng taxpayer.
123:25.2
I think, I'm not sure by
123:27.2
the numbers, I would say
123:29.2
more than $20M
123:31.2
for their budget.
123:33.2
Just for that. Gender-affirming
123:35.2
program. Yup.
123:37.2
Yung mga
123:39.2
pagtatransition, pati yung mga
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gamot nila, mga hormones, diba?
123:43.2
Kaya alam
123:45.2
nyo po,
123:47.2
ang sinasabi nila dito,
123:49.2
That is because nagkaroon ng push
123:51.2
ng culture.
123:53.2
Mabilis.
123:55.2
Noong naging presidente si Biden,
123:57.2
nagsimula siya.
123:59.2
Yung katotohanan doon.
124:01.2
Nagkaroon nga ng push
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sa culture
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na there would be
124:07.2
enough people who would support
124:09.2
this kind of
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legislation. Diba?
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Dati kasi hindi
124:15.2
papasayan. Dati nga yung
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gay marriage. Diba? Ayun. Siguro
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yan ang ano. Bakit walang
124:21.2
gay marriage sa Pilipinas? Kasi
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sa kultura ng majority
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ng Pilipina, ng mga Pilipino,
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hindi siya
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okay. Diba?
124:31.2
Pero if
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the leftists, ng mga pro
124:35.2
gay marriage na
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ano na yan, na kung gusto
124:39.2
nilang i-campaign yan,
124:41.2
they can
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create campaigns
124:45.2
like this. Like let's say,
124:47.2
magkakaroon sila ng articles
124:49.2
celebrating gay couples.
124:51.2
Diba? And parang
124:53.2
magkakaroon sila ng mga articles
124:55.2
na parang ina-appeal mga gay couples.
124:57.2
Diba? And then they will
124:59.2
generate public
125:01.2
reactions.
125:03.2
And then, it will change.
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It will
125:07.2
start conversation
125:09.2
and then
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you can drive narratives
125:13.2
din. If there's a corrupt media
125:15.2
that would
125:17.2
that would parang
125:19.2
push towards certain
125:21.2
ideologies, then
125:23.2
ganon ang ginawa sa US. Ganon ang ginawa
125:25.2
doon sa US. Diba? And they
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and the Filipinos can
125:29.2
use the same playbook.
125:31.2
Yup.
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Propaganda lang. Ano lang talaga siya?
125:35.2
Propaganda
125:37.2
on social media.
125:39.2
You do that for
125:41.2
for 10-15 years
125:43.2
then you would have an entire
125:45.2
generation thinking very
125:47.2
differently
125:49.2
against the previous one.
125:51.2
Diba? And then
125:53.2
the culture changes.
125:55.2
Diba?
125:57.2
I guess
125:59.2
ito siguro, I guess
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we talk a lot about this topic.
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I guess, as for me, like
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I would say, as a
126:07.2
as an advice and opinion
126:09.2
about this. How can we change
126:11.2
the culture? How can we fight the culture?
126:13.2
Just talk about it more.
126:15.2
Just be honest. Kung anong nararamdaman mo
126:17.2
wag ka matakot kung
126:19.2
kung sampu kayo
126:21.2
nine sila against you. Ibay
126:23.2
opinion mo. Say it. Kasi
126:25.2
sometimes, the less
126:27.2
you talk, the more evil
126:29.2
is being
126:31.2
active all around. E andami
126:33.2
namang nuisance, andami namang
126:35.2
outliers dyan na hindi naman nila alam yung
126:37.2
totoo. What's the real truth
126:39.2
behind this? So, I would say
126:41.2
have this kind of platform. Have
126:43.2
a talk online on social media.
126:45.2
Don't be scared if they ban
126:47.2
you. If they say you're
126:49.2
anti-LGBTQ, it's fine
126:51.2
because at the end of the day, everyone needs
126:53.2
to have a freedom of speech.
126:55.2
Even if it's gonna trigger most
126:57.2
of your community, do it.
126:59.2
Kasi nawawala na po yung
127:01.2
conservatism ng tao.
127:03.2
At naapekuan mga bata.
127:05.2
And also, there are people
127:07.2
who are trying to change the culture.
127:09.2
And what you can do is
127:11.2
you can defend the culture.
127:13.2
Defend. You can't
127:15.2
just be...
127:17.2
Ano ba naman ako? Masyado naman
127:19.2
akong prude nito.
127:21.2
Okay nga, kita yung utong ni Nadine.
127:23.2
Parang...
127:25.2
You're just gonna be
127:27.2
shamed into silence
127:29.2
for standing
127:31.2
on a...
127:33.2
for fear na masabiyan ka na...
127:35.2
I don't know.
127:37.2
Get smart shamed.
127:39.2
Get told na
127:41.2
masyado kang OA.
127:43.2
Mga ganyan. Or bigot ka.
127:45.2
Diba? Or...
127:47.2
Pero pag nakita mo kasi na...
127:49.2
Meron kasing bagay na
127:51.2
unang tingin mo pala parang may mali eh.
127:53.2
Either culturally or
127:55.2
it's against your
127:57.2
morals, it was against your upbringing
127:59.2
or whether...
128:01.2
Eh, of course it would vary
128:03.2
kung gaano ka kalala
128:05.2
yung tingin mo na mali na yun.
128:07.2
Pero sometimes unang tingin mo
128:09.2
palang parang may ano eh...
128:11.2
may hindi ka komportable.
128:13.2
And you need to acknowledge that.
128:15.2
Kasi if you
128:17.2
stay silent,
128:19.2
yung barrage ng media
128:21.2
na gagawin nila to push these
128:23.2
kinds of
128:25.2
things na
128:27.2
yung mga
128:29.2
freedom nipple na yan.
128:31.2
Yung mga
128:33.2
braless OOTDs.
128:35.2
I have nothing
128:37.2
against Nadine. I love Nadine.
128:39.2
Pero it's not
128:41.2
about her eh. It's about
128:43.2
the cultural push
128:45.2
that they are trying to do here.
128:47.2
And
128:49.2
we don't
128:51.2
even know kung
128:53.2
if Nadine understands this
128:55.2
totally.
128:57.2
Well, she's a smart
128:59.2
woman. Maybe
129:01.2
she does.
129:03.2
Pero I don't know if she just
129:05.2
gets enough insight from the
129:07.2
other side of the debate.
129:09.2
Yeah.
129:11.2
I guess it's just about money.
129:13.2
Ayos!
129:15.2
Ano yun na muna natin? Tapusin na
129:17.2
muna natin to. Sobrang haba na ito.
129:19.2
Magpaalam
129:21.2
na muna tayo. Nico David, gusto mo ba
129:23.2
bumalik para magpaalam?
129:25.2
Okay.
129:27.2
Garawi, may
129:29.2
gusto mo bang last
129:31.2
thoughts ka ba?
129:33.2
Siguro ang ano ko lang dito is
129:35.2
hindi natin pa makikita
129:37.2
yung consequence
129:39.2
neto. Pero
129:41.2
ang isa sa
129:43.2
naisip kong possibility neto
129:45.2
pagka halimbawa
129:47.2
from Nadine, tapos gumaya na yung
129:49.2
other influencers, so
129:51.2
sunod-sunod na yan, dadami na. Ang unang-unang
129:53.2
magiging problema siguro dito, tataas
129:55.2
yung crime rate. Dadami
129:57.2
yung makakasuhan ng sexual harassment.
129:59.2
Kasi kahit na
130:01.2
sabihin natin,
130:03.2
hindi
130:05.2
ano to,
130:07.2
malakas ang control na itong tao na to, pero possible
130:09.2
na isang araw
130:11.2
wala yung control niya dahil lang
130:13.2
sunod-sunod yung nakikita niya ganyan.
130:15.2
Yung mga ganun bagay.
130:17.2
So yun lang. So
130:19.2
I think
130:21.2
okay lang sana kung
130:23.2
walang mapapasama dito.
130:25.2
Pero hindi lang siya basta culture,
130:27.2
kundi feeling ko
130:29.2
yung mga hindi manyakis
130:31.2
ay magiging manyakis pagka
130:33.2
napadalas yung mga ganito.
130:35.2
Magiging manyakis?
130:38.2
Sa akin, I don't find
130:40.2
anything na may serious repercussion
130:42.2
dyan. It's just a fashion
130:44.2
statement as any other fashion statement
130:46.2
over the decade. It comes
130:48.2
and goes.
130:50.2
Okay.
130:52.2
If it will die down,
130:54.2
that thing will die down,
130:56.2
babalik ulit yung bra
130:58.2
a few years later or next year.
131:00.2
Sabagay. Totoo naman talaga yun.
131:02.2
Ah, so you're seeing this as a fashion statement?
131:04.2
Payikot-pikot yan.
131:06.2
Payikot-pikot lang yan.
131:08.2
Kasi may remote. Duma yung term eh.
131:10.2
Outfit of the day.
131:12.2
Para ang outfit of the day
131:14.2
is basically a fashion statement.
131:16.2
A fashion statement.
131:18.2
So it will
131:20.2
come and go. Iikot lang.
131:22.2
Babalik yan. A few years later mawawala din.
131:24.2
Babalik ulit yan.
131:26.2
But don't you think
131:28.2
parang this can
131:30.2
encourage other people?
131:32.2
Is it a trend worth
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copying?
131:38.2
People will get tired of it.
131:40.2
Hmm.
131:42.2
Okay.
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Yan ang bilis ko.
131:46.2
Ikaw,
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Billy?
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Ah, ako po. Kasi...
131:52.2
Yeah. Ako naman po. Siguro
131:54.2
last statement ko na lang. Kasi ako
131:56.2
personally nakikita ko na yung
131:58.2
shifting of culture dito sa states.
132:00.2
I would say that
132:02.2
sana po magkaroon ng ganitong
132:04.2
maraming podcast na
132:06.2
we can share our own
132:08.2
thoughts even we disagree.
132:10.2
Because I want to
132:12.2
imply to
132:14.2
every kids out there that is
132:16.2
listening to the podcast
132:18.2
na we still have
132:20.2
yung rights
132:22.2
to disagree
132:24.2
on our beliefs.
132:26.2
Hindi kailangan na
132:28.2
when somebody disagree
132:30.2
sa atin, eh kailangan
132:32.2
nati-trigger ka kagad.
132:34.2
Naga-ad hominin ka.
132:36.2
You attack the person
132:38.2
on his or own physical
132:40.2
attributes instead of having a good
132:42.2
conversation and a healthy
132:44.2
argument. Yun yung nawala
132:46.2
dahil sa culture na to eh.
132:48.2
And I wish that
132:50.2
parents can have more
132:52.2
control and government
132:54.2
should move away
132:56.2
on how to control
132:58.2
and how to
133:00.2
mandate families. Kasi naniniwala
133:02.2
pa rin ako na ang kapangyariyan
133:04.2
ng pinakamagagaling na bata sa mundo
133:06.2
ay nangagaling sa mga pinakamagagaling
133:08.2
na magula.
133:10.2
Yan lang po. Thank you.
133:12.2
Ayos.
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Alright. So
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I suppose. Siniko wala
133:18.2
na. Hindi na akyat.
133:20.2
So, yun.
133:22.2
And I'm
133:24.2
very happy
133:26.2
very happy dito sa podcast na to.
133:28.2
Madami tayo mga disagreements.
133:30.2
And
133:32.2
hindi naman tayo nakapag. Hindi naman
133:34.2
natin na-resolve kung may Diyos o wala.
133:36.2
Pero ang maganda ay
133:38.2
nakapag-usap tayo.
133:40.2
Napag-usapan natin at nakapagbigay tayo
133:42.2
ng mga ideas sa mga
133:44.2
nanonood. Okay. So
133:46.2
I suppose. Yun na
133:48.2
muna. Mga tol.
133:50.2
Dito na muna sa
133:52.2
Tambay Cast. Maybe next week.
133:54.2
Let's see kung
133:56.2
okay tong format na to.
133:58.2
Maybe we'll
134:00.2
experiment some more and keep
134:02.2
improving this show. Alright!
134:04.2
Paalam!
134:06.2
Paalam!
134:08.2
Paalam!


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