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Pero sa kabila nito, meron pa rin po mga duda sa risulta.
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O baka naman, may mga hirap lang makamove on?
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Ako po ay si General Eliseo Rio,
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na-retired ng Armed Forces of the Philippines noong year 2000.
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At ako'y naging NTC Commissioner from 2001 to 2003.
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And naging Undersecretary ng Department of Information and Communication Technology.
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Membro si General Rio ng Truth and Transparency Trio o TN Trio.
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Ito yung grupong bumubusisi sa naging risulta ng May 2022 elections.
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Partikular sa pagkapangulo.
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Sinilip nila yung raw files na inupload ng COMELEC sa website nito.
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As you all know, automated po yung eleksyon.
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Yung mga balota, makina po ang nagbibilang
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at nagtatransmit papunta sa COMELEC servers.
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At dahil nga automated, inaasahang mabilis.
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Hindi tulad nung unang panahon na mano-mano yung bilangan.
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Pero para sa grupo ng General Rio, masyado naman yata mabilis.
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Lalo nung unang oras pagkatapos magsara
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ng mga presinto noong May 9, 2022.
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Kung nagsara ng 7 p.m.,
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mayroon pa sila dapat gawain.
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From the time and motion study,
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yung pag-print ng 8 copies ng election returns,
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both national and local,
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takes at least 12 minutes.
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Hindi ka makatransmit
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kung hindi ito na print
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at naibigay sa mga poll watchers.
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Kung lahat-lahat yun, suma total,
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will take about 19 minutes.
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So the earliest na transmission dapat,
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if they just follow the strict instruction of COMELEC,
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Ito po ang proseso natin sa presinto.
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Pagkatapos mabilang ang boto,
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masuma total ang lahat ng boto,
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yung mismong makina, nakikita po natin,
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nagpi-imprintan mo siya,
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muna siya ng election returns.
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8 election returns.
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Pagkatapos po makapag-imprintan,
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tsaka po siya kakabit
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yung mismong pang-transmit na kable.
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Ikakabit upang yung makina ay makapag-transmit
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mula sa presinto,
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papunta sa bayan o sa city hall,
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kung nasaan yung canvassing.
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So pag nakapag-transmit na po siya,
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muli po yung makina naman
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ay mag-iimprinta ng 22 election returns.
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pagkatapos transmission,
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pagkatapos imprenta ng 22.
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So ang kabuan po,
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30 election returns lahat
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ang na-imprinta noong mismong makina.
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Kine-question namin yung questionable
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na 20 million plus votes na nabilang
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noong first hour.
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8.02 in the evening of May 9.
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Sabi namin ay mukhang ito ay record.
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Were there enough VCM transmission
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in that very first hour
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to account that record 20 million votes counted,
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the highest in our history?
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Yung pong na-itransmit,
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sinasabi nila mga 20 million daw na results,
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yan po ay hindi po individual na result
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ng presidente, vice-presidente,
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at saka hanggang konsihal.
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Ang itinatransmit po
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yung tinatawag na election returns
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Voto po mula sa presidente
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hanggang sa konsihal.
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Yan po yung natransmit na result,
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election returns.
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Hindi po imposible
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na ma-itransmit sa isang oras
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ang buong 20 million
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na nilalaman ng 13 or even 33,000
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na election returns.
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Kung ang buong Pilipinas po,
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sabihin na po natin ay merong
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107,000 presinks, presinto,
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ibig sabihin meron din po
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107,000 election returns.
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Alam nyo po ba ang katumbas lang nung
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para po kayo nagpadala lang ng piktur
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sa sa inyo pong viber?
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Punta naman tayo dun sa
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mas seryosong aligasyon.
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It is a smoking gun.
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bilis ng transmission na mga resulta,
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itinatransmit na mga boto
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galing sa 20,300 vote counting machines
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gamit ang iisang IP address,
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yung 192.168.0.2.
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Pero ano ba muna yung IP
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o Internet Protocol Address?
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Pwede natin iliken yan
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to address ng isang bahay.
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So meron kang bahay,
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may address yung bahay na yun.
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I'm Dominic Ligot,
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founder of Data Ethics PH.
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I've been a technology professional
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for almost 25 years.
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Ang expertise ko po ay
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AI, data science,
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and also work in cyber security.
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So ano naman kung gumamit
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ng same IP address
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ang 20,300 VCM modems
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na nag-transmit ng
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milyong-milyong mga boto
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wala NCR sa kakatabing probinsya?
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Well, here's the thing.
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May dinaanan raw na private device.
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There is an illegal device
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inside or created by
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the Smartmatic contract
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that had a device
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with an IP address.
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Hindi nila matanggi yan.
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Nasa server nila.
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Ito raw yung man-in-the-middle
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na bawal ayon kay Rio.
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It is a smoking gun.
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Kung sa normal court cases yan,
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it would be a prima facie case.
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Man-in-the-middle, yung sabihin,
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isa yung cyber security term
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na between two stations
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between a private and a public network,
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there is a device
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na doon muna pumunta
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yung mga dapat pumunta rito
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sa actual recipient.
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Siguro gusto makita
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o makinig kung anong mga usapan,
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but they can also alter
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or they can produce clones.
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Itong sinasabi namin na
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kaya pala kabilis yan
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dahil hindi dumaan sa
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normal na network
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Dumaan or preloaded
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at dito lahat dumaan
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itong illegal na device
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ay nakapagpadala ng kanyang karami
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na hindi galing talaga sa
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So, paano nilang padala yan?
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may mga ebidensya kami nakuha
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na doon sa presinto,
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sa all over the consulate.
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Aba, mayroong mga iba eh
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na piprint pa lang na mga 10 p.m.
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8 p.m. natanggap na ng server.
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So, ibig sabihin,
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galing yan doon sa device na yan
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yung anong ipapadala
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nitong mga VCM na ito
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ay hindi po mangyayari yun
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dahil hindi po pwede mangyayari
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sa ating mga kababayan
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yung magtatransmit
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subalit hindi pa tapos
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wala po silang maipakita
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kahit isang ebidensya
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na nakapagtransmit
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na hindi pa tapos.
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Pag po nai-erase nila
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yung issue ng pre-loading,
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hindi sila rin po halimbawa
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ang nagka-counter
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sa kanilang kontensyon.
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Pre-loading ibig sabihin
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may boto na nakalagay
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Eh kung ganoon po pala
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at sinasabi nilang intermediary?
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Doon daw nila aayusin.
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Eh di po ba ayos na
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kapag pre-loaded na?
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Ayos na dapat sa presidento.
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So bakit ano pang aayusin?
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nagdagdag ka ng 50,
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magdagdag ka pa ng another 50
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dinadaanan na gateway.
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Kasi pag pre-loaded,
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hindi mo na kinakalagdumaan
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wala pong pre-loading,
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wala rin pong intermediary.
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Wala pong man-in-the-middle
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sapagkat para pong magkaroon
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ng man-in-the-middle,
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hingan po natin po sila
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na yung man-in-the-middle,
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ay nagmanyoobra ng result
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para iba po yung dumating.
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Isandaan ang boto ni Pedro
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dumating po ba doon
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sa mismong nagkakanbasing 50?
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Eh kung dumating po doon
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ay isandaan pa rin,
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wala pong man-in-the-middle.
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Dire-diretso po yung
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pagtransmit ng results.
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Walang kasiguruhan
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dahil wala tayong datos doon.
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pwedeng pag-aralan
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na tinatawag na forensics,
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digital forensics.
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Isa din yan doon sa
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mga ginagawa natin.
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Parang inaalam natin
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kung saan nanggaling nga yung atake.
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wala tayong datos,
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wala tayong proweba
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na nangyari yung man-in-the-middle atake.
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Ako si Lito Averia,
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kasalukuyang chairman
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ng National Citizens Movement
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for Free Elections.
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Isang organisasyon
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o nagbabantay ng ating eleksyon.
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sa tinatawag natin
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practice na cybersecurity.
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Hindi lang yung technical aspects
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but policy development.
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na-convince ka ba na meron
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noon na karaang eleksyon?
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kailangan pang mabusisi
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ang mas maraming datos.
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Kailangan ma-examine nga
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yung mga devices na ginamit
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at saka yung mga logs noon
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kung may preloading.
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sa kinatatakutan din noon
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na maaaring tinatawag
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na mag-preload ng program
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Yun nga yung hinihingi nating datos
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para mapag-aralan mabuti
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ano ba talaga ang nangyari
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sa nakaraang eleksyon
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at doon pa sa ibang eleksyon
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Yung mga terms naman,
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nakakatakot yun sa public
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merong man-in-the-middle attack.
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Pero for us to really talk about it
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ngayon sa yunitong bagay,
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kailangan maprove din natin
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paano kaya na man-in-the-middle yan
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in the natural course
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of the operation of the network.
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just being a non-political view,
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just being objective about it.
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gusto ko rin maaintindihan
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paano ba nagkaroon ng mga
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kunyari, yung timestamp.
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pero pwedeng off.
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Hindi nga synchronized lang yung clock.
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Maka yun lang yung reason.
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And then lahat ng logs.
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As if it's a matter of national importance,
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pakita nilang lahat ng logs.
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dun sa nagka-aakusa
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na may dayaan sa eleksyon,
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lalo na patungkol sa automation,
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wala po at hindi po makatutuhanan.
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I'm doing this now
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so that our election
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will be reformed, no?
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Because kung ganito ang eleksyon natin
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at palaging may duda,
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anong klaseng democracy mayroon tayo?
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Wala akong pakain na
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to be used by anybody.
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I am doing this for my children,
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na sila will not suffer
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a government that is not elected
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by the will of the people.
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only time and evidence
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kung totoo nga yung bintang ng TN Trio.
