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Let's keep talking!

Kaibigan, tuloy ang usap!

Joy, maraming salamat.

Thank you very much.

Nagkita tayo muli.

Of course, looking forward nga po.

Hindi ko ina-expect actually.

Sabi ko nga, looking back, who would have imagined that COVID would happen?

Not only that, Tito Boy, even Taal hit us.

Tama.

The volcano eruption.

That was really bad.

Let's talk about the Taal volcano eruption.

Anong kwento, Joy?

Actually po, that was 4pm.

The sky was getting dark.

Okay.

And suddenly, all the mayor's phones rings.

Kapatid, Mayor Joy, we need help.

Lahat ng mayor, tawagan.

Bakit?

Sabi ko, ano nangyayari?

Pumuntok na ang vulkan.

Kailangan natin ang magtulungan.

So, there are private trucks to help me.

Sinundo namin tong mga tao, no?

Alam mo yung idea na they're all full of ashes.

And we need to hose them down to put them in our evacuation centers.

It's just like, it's very touching na talagang wala silang dala.

Because that time, fiesta kunyok nagkakamali.

To the nearby town.

And everybody was preparing for the fiesta for the next day.

So, everybody was out from their houses, helping each other.

Nagtutulungan sila, nagbabayanihan.

Nakumatay na mo, nagluluto.

And then, suddenly, skies get dark, earthquakes hits, and that's it.

In one snap.

Things change.

That was January.

Then, March came.

COVID hits us.

Di lang po natapos yung sabi sa Batangas.

Lalo na kami.

I'm in the 4th district.

And we are a swine place, which is the piggery industry.

ASF hits after two months.

It was really devastating for a lot of us.

Pero ito yung mga panahon kung saan lumalabas ang maraming mga leader

in the most challenging times.

Dito, nag-blue bloom.

I mean, historically speaking, ang maraming leaders in the world.

I would say, not leaders.

Lumabas yung puso ng mga tao.

Leaders na may mga puso.

At ang tao na may mga puso.

And we help each other.

Wala nang leader dito, boy.

Ang ano ko lang, kung willing kayo tumulong,

even until alas 3 na madaling araw, gising ako eh.

Nasa opisina na ako, natutulog minsan.

Kasama yung mga staff ko at yung empleyado.

Tapos yung mga volunteers, talagang salitan.

Kasi hindi rin naman kaya.

That was like almost three months until COVID hits.

Talagang tuloy-tuloy.

Kasi yung donors, dire-direcho rin.

Dire-direcho.

So, I would say it's more of yung totoong puso mo.

Yung totoong ikaw na ano ka ba sa komunidad mo?

Sino ka ngayon?

Ano ang takeaway mo?

Ano ang learnings mo from the COVID,

from the Taal experience?

Now looking back, when you think about it,

what did you learn?

That you can't stop learning.

Keep on asking, you keep on researching,

you keep on thinking ahead.

Anticipation, prevention, preparation.

Yun po yung natutunan ko.

Hopefully, the pandemic is over.

Kumusta ang ibaan?

Malaki pong pinagbago ng ibaan.

Talk about it.

We had our infrastructure.

Meron na po kaming bagong palengke,

which is the public market mall.

Not only a palengke-palengke,

it's an economic enterprise.

We have ongoing po ang aming bagong munisipyo.

We're going to have our sports complex

with cultural center.

So, it was a big attempt,

pero it was ongoing po lahat, awa ng Diyos.

Tapos, one of the things siguro din po,

going back to your question,

ngayon ko lang na-realize,

siguro po din naniwala yung tao sa akin,

kasi there was a, I call it a promise bridge.

Ako sa akin ngayon po,

I call it a promise bridge.

Because everyone promised it

that it will be built

from the time it was washed away.

Kung nawala yun,

nakaparo na bagyo, inanod siya.

So, sa 3 barangay, outside,

may ilog po kaming malaki,

which is the Katandala Bridge.

And now, I would say,

I'm proud to say,

meron na po siyang foundation

and ongoing po project

and it should be done by 2024.

It will cut the trip from Manila to Lobo,

like 30 minutes more or less.

And the promise is finally fulfilled.

The promise is finally fulfilled.

You are on your second term

as mayor of Ibaan.

How are you?

After COVID,

I started balancing my time.

I realized that,

minsan, sa buhay,

sa politika,

sa leadership,

kailangan mo rin bigyan ng oras

ng sarili mo

in order to be renewed and reborn.

Kasi, when you sucked up too much,

you get burnout,

either people start not to understand you,

and that sometimes

would put you in a line

na,

am I still doing the right thing?

And you start to think a lot of things.

In my experience,

No, I appreciate the concept.

Kasi, ako simple lang,

habang pinakikinggan kita,

I have to take good care of myself

because paano ko aalagaan

ng aking mga constituents

kung hindi ako malusog?

Yeah.

But again, the keyword is balance.

Balance.

Because it's not your money.

It is not your money.

As long as the interest of the people

is more than your interest,

you're okay.

And if it's equal,

then you're okay.

But if it's more,

yung interest mo than the people,

and using that money,

then that's something's wrong.

Doon sa ground ng politika,

how bad is corruption?

I'm not talking about ibaan.

I'm talking about corruption as a reality.

I guess it's still there.

It's still there?

Yeah.

Siguro po ang difference lang is,

siguro po yung mga bagong mayor,

yung tao na naglagay ng bagong concept nila

na subukumbok naman tayo ng iba,

siguro ito yung gumigising na.

May konting naman po.

Kaya lang kasi minsan,

kung ano yung status natin ngayon,

it depends din sa bigger anchor,

bigger picture,

kami ng lokal po,

mga less affected lang kami ng resulta

ng kung ano po ang meron.

Bukod sa corruption na pwedeng manggaling

sa sarili mong dugad.

But sometimes it's more of because

you are the result or the effect

of a bigger picture.

Gaano ka kadalas umikot sa ibaan ngayon?

Ngayon, what we did is,

may season naman talaga kami

na bumababa sa barangay.

We give free services.

Right now, ang request sa amin is

free eye check-up and eye glasses.

Yung grade talaga.

Senior citizen.

So, bumababa po talaga.

Kinakamusin ko ang tao.

Kinakamusin ko kung yung pakiramdam ko,

gusto pa ba nila to?

Okay pa ba ako?

Kasi, honestly, I don't know.

I got the numbers.

Pero iba yung nakikita,

iba yung naririnig mo.

Iba po yung nararamdaman mo.

Pero let's talk about the problem of poverty.

Anong punot dulo at ano ang solusyon sa ibaan?

Siguro po yung una yung napansin ko is

yung proper system muna ng

lokal na pamalan kung paano mo talaga

i-assist yung tao.

Bukod sa talagang ayaw lang,

humilos ng tao.

That's one.

Second talaga yung,

hanap buhay talaga dito.

Hindi kaya ng lokal na siya lang yung

mandigaw ng investors.

We need the help of the national

in a way that they can do.

Are you getting that from the national government today?

Not entirely.

Because, like us,

we are on a agriculture base.

So ako yung gateway.

So what I was proposing is

sa DA is,

we need a parang quarantine area.

Sa atin, wala tayong quarantine area.

Doon sa livestock na nangyari sa amin,

yung sa swine, and even sa poultry.

So, imagine that.

So, babalik tayo sa issue ng food security.

This is getting broader.

This is it.

Yung nangyari sa atin ng COVID.

Food security.

Anong issues?

Mahal ang inputs.

Anong gagawin natin?

Hindi ko naman kaya ito bilang lokal na pamalan.

Pag mag-offer ka sa national,

limitado rin yung program nila.

So, in short,

doon lalabas yung sinasabi mong galing.

Right.

Doon ka na lang.

At saka diskarte mo.

Doon ka didiskarte kung paano ka iikot

from what you have.

So help,

I'm not saying that they're refusing us,

but what I'm saying is,

probably, I guess,

if they really wanted to change,

they have to listen to the real ones na talagang nandun.

Nasa baba.

Oo.

LGUs, diba?

Second term, as mayor,

nabago ba ang iyong pananaw

sa politika dito sa Pilipinas?

Medyo nabago.

In a way na…

Are you more realistic now?

I guess so.

Ha?

I guess so.

Nabago siya in a way na

you have to do acceptance

na may bagay kang kailangan tanggapin

na hindi mo kaya.

That's for me.

Like, on my end.

Because if you don't,

nababaliw ka na lang eh.

Ikaw yung masisira,

ikaw yung magbabago,

ikaw yung mawawala.

This is hypothetical.

Halimbawa, partido mo iba

doon sa partido ng nanalo.

May dynamics siya nakakaiba.

When I was young,

that was very interesting.

When I was young,

I do believe that

dapat lang magpartido,

magkalaban.

Kasi sabi ko,

to do the check and balance.

Yes.

And then it happened to me.

And what did you discover?

How to be dapat kakampi mo.

Because kakampi mo kasi

parehas kayo ng advocacy,

parehas kayo ng naiintindihan,

parehas kayo ng puso

at ng interest.

Hindi dahil kakampi mo lang sa politika.

Siguro that's where the line is drawn.

So my second fight,

I made sure that these people

will be backing me up.

Will be really understanding.

Actually,

sa katunayan po,

meron po akong isang konsyal

na nag-independent siya.

Pero alam kong naiintindihan niya ako.

So hindi ako,

hindi ko pinuno yung slot ko.

Okay.

I open it up

because I do believe na mananalo siya.

Mananalo sa kabilang batid.

That's one.

Tito mo, acceptance.

And then, nung ngayon,

And realistic.

And realistic.

Ngayon,

we're working together.

I always explain to them,

to the sanggunian before

I tried to push something to them.

And then sabi ko,

ask me questions,

I will answer you as much as I can.

I've been talking to a lot of mayors.

Sinasabi nila,

pag-eleksyon,

mahalaga naman kami eh.

Pag-eleksyon,

bumaba ba sa amin

yung mga national candidates.

At sinasabi nila lahat,

natutulungan kami.

Pag-eleksyon,

lahat posible.

Pag mga nanalo na,

marami ng rules.

I don't care on national

because they have their own fight.

I have my own fight.

I am here for my people.

Sino ang mas nakakatulong kanino

pag-eleksyon?

Lokal.

Mas nakakatulong ang lokal

kaysa sa national?

Yeah.

I think that's a reality.

For me.

No, for a lot.

For a lot.

I've been talking to a lot of

local officials.

So Joy,

kung mapupunta tayo dun sa discussion

ng party system,

saan ka mas pabor?

Sa two-party system

o sa multi-party system?

I guess,

what I experience

with some limitations

and questions,

I would go with

two-party system.

Because,

let's be honest,

it helps kahit papano.

Because,

when magkakahiwalay kayo

and you have your own advocacy

in your own party,

your own interest,

it's highly impossible.

You don't have the interest

to be there.

It starts to box out.

At saka sana lang,

klaro ang idolohiya.

Ito ang pinaninindigan

ng partidong ito.

Ito ang pinaninindigan

ng partidong ito.

Kasi diba,

nakawan lang naman.

Para isa lang talaga

ang pinag-uusapan natin.

Hindi ko naman sinasabi,

perfecto,

I'm not a fan of

American politics.

Pero pag sinabi mong

Democrats,

alam mo ang tindig.

Pag sinabi mong Republican,

alam mo ang tindig.

I don't know how true

it is to you.

Hindi ko alam.

Pero napansin ko lang,

syempre kapag kapartido mo,

wala na masyadong bureaucracy

na bargain.

Kung mag-bargain man kayo,

you know,

you deserve it.

Parang alam mo naman

na ito yung nilalaban natin noon.

Bakit mo ngayon haharangan?

So that's one that you could

demand to them.

Ang nanonotice ko rin

dito sa Pilipinas,

and this is a personal observation,

pagkatapos ang eleksyon,

naglilipatan lahat

ang mga politiko

sa partido ng mayorya.

What does it say to you?

I would disagree with that one.

Not all locals would definitely

No, not all.

Pero ibig sabihin na

ang daming mga politiko

Majority of the locals dito,

not much.

Pero siguro sa national probably.

But sa local, kasi iba eh.

May mga local parties nga eh,

di ba?

So yung prinsipyo nila,

ito, ito talaga kami.

Kasi ito kami.

Kaya palang maraming

nagpapa-adapt.

Ito ang supporter namin.

So pag lumipat kami sa inyo,

sa sama loob namin,

bangawalan kami.

So parang,

it's kinda,

sa akin ah,

sa nakita ko sa lokal.

No, no.

I'm listening.

So pag halimbawa,

mayor, konsejal ka

sa isang bayan,

nasyonalista party ka,

ang tendency ng local

is to really stay

with the party.

Your local party.

Your local.

Ah, okay.

Not a national party.

Because national party

doesn't affect you that much.

I moderated a symposium

which was sponsored

by an NGO in Singapore.

At napagusapan nga namin

yung polarization,

yung paghihiwa-hiwalay,

na sinabi nung isang analyst

na kami din polarized kami.

Pero benign ang salitang ginamit.

Benign kami.

Hindi kami nagpapatayan.

Magkapatid kami.

Ibang aming ibinoboto.

But after the elections,

we're okay.

Sa atin,

predatory ang ginamit.

Na ibig sabihin,

magkapitbahay tayo,

tapos na ang eleksyon

pero hindi pa rin tayo naguusap.

Actually,

pinaka best example lang dito po

is barangay elections.

Nadarating.

Arang angkana.

Talagang kahit ako bilang isang mayor,

kahit ako minsan,

hands-off ako.

It's very scary

because maapektuhan ka

kasi ang away nila personal.

Ganon.

So, I would agree to that.

Predatory.

It is.

Gaano kahalaga ang suporta

ng barangay captain

sa in-eupolitically?

Malaki.

Malaking.

Malaking bagay.

Kasi kapag kalaban mo

ang isang nakupo,

kahit papano,

he could do anything

that could harm you

in a way.

It might be small or big.

It depends.

Pero yan yung isang bagay

na nanggaling kasi ako

tito bayo dyan eh.

But do you believe?

Lumabar na ako sabi ko

kasi hindi ko alam

kung yung pumasok na yung sa isip ko

nung binalikan ko.

Wala naman akong kampang kapitan eh.

I started with seven.

We are 26 barangays.

With seven kapitans

na ipanalo ko.

Nanalo ko

pito.

Twenty-six o nineteen kanya.

Diba?

So, nag-transition.

May in-endorse siya.

Umalik.

Comeback mayor.

Laban kami.

Salpukang kami.

I made it.

Anong sikreto dun?

Gratis.

As in mano a mano talaga?

Tao.

Tao.

That's when it becomes difficult.

Probably that's where it evolved.

The people starting losing trust.

Probably,

on those people.

That's why you have to make sure

that

that people,

itong mga tao,

itong mga kababayan mo,

ay tunay talaga

na kasama mo.

May mga panahon joy na

you're alone

and you're thinking about

everything that's happening in your life.

You're thinking about ibaan.

And you have your moments of wise.

Yung,

bakit ako nandito?

Bakit ko ito ginagawa?

Meron kang mga

moments of reflection na ganyan?

Meron po.

Nagdaringan ko rin

at bakit mo kailangan mag-stay?

Yun.

Oo.

Ano ang kasagutan?

Tumayo ako sa ibaan.

May sinigaw ako.

Pagbabago.

Pag-asa.

Nagsalita ka.

Big words.

Panindigan ko.

Kailangan ko panindigan.

That was the time.

First time.

Inoffer ko ang buhay ko.

I'm not from ibaan.

I don't have friends.

I don't have family.

I was there

when I started politics

for only

a year or two.

I ran for vice mayor 2016.

I got plucked in 2019.

Ran for a mayor.

This is my second term until now.

So, no families.

No friends.

Joy,

huling katanungan.

Anong dasal mo?

Para sa'yo.

Anong dasal mo

para sa ibaan?

For me,

it's like safety

and good health for my family.

And,

hindi po ako kainin

ng sistema.

Always guide me.

I always have this heart.

Nakayanin ko yung

dapat kong gawin.

Na hindi ako

pumasok sa bulok na sewa.

Huwag sana akong ma-push.

It's more of,

I have the resistance

to be the,

as much as possible,

this person

na nagustuhan

ng tagaibaan.

And for ibaan,

I'm really wishing na,

hindi ako po,

Tito Boy,

nag-wish ng grand

na maging sobrang

siyudad siya,

na maging sikat siya.

All I want is,

yung realidad,

magkaroon ng investor,

pumasok,

magkaroon ng hanap buhay,

mamenting po lang yung

crime rate,

yung healthcare,

yung ano.

I'm not saying that I could

perfectly do it well.

As much as I could do,

it's the majority I could please.

That's it.

It's a community for now.

I would say,

hindi pa rin po kami talagang

sasabihin mong problemadong bayan.

I wish you success.

Thank you po, Tito.

I really do.

I wish you success, Joy.

At maraming salamat

sa kwentuhang ito.

I will see you again.

I hope so.

Thank you.

Kaibigan,

tuloy ang usap.