PLEASE RAFFY TULFO VLOGGER MAG CONTENT PA TAYO SA DEATH WISH- COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
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00:00.0
... Alright yan magandang araw mga kapatid natin at welcome sa isang live stream. Mga kapatid natin grabe damage control ng kabilang panig, kabilang banda, ngayon mga kapatid natin pag-usapan natin ang death wish ni Traffee Tulfo...
00:30.0
... It does not matter kung death wish o death threat yan ang hinahabol nila ngayon. It does not matter kung death wish o death threat. Pero sana yung mga Tulfonatics vloggers makinig kayo sa dalawang abugadong ito kahit kay Atty. Jojo Ticman na lang.
01:00.0
... So ano nang hahabulin nyo doon? Doon palang GG na kayo. Pero syempre hindi natin titigilan ito. Samahan nyo rin ako mga Tulfonatics vloggers na pag-usapan nito. Itong ulit si Atty. Jojo Ticman at Atty. Freddie Villamor, let's expound on cyber libel. Kasi pag-uusapan dito yung truth as a defense in libel.
01:30.0
... Itong cyber libel naman kasi talaga technically basic libel lang yan. Naging cyber libel lang yan dahil sa Cyber Crime Prevention Act 2012. Doon lang pumasok yan. Huwag na tayo magpaligwi-ligwi pa mga kapatid natin. Let's talk about this."
02:00.0
Atty. Jojo Ticman at Atty. Freddie Villamor, let's expound on cyber libel. Kasi talaga technically basic libel lang yan. Naging cyber libel lang yan. Huwag na tayo magpaligwi-ligwi pa mga kapatid natin. Let's talk about this."
02:30.0
Q1. Atty. Jojo Ticman at Atty. Freddie Villamor, let's expound on cyber libel. Kasi talaga technically basic libel. Naging cyber libel.
03:00.0
Q2. Atty. Jojo Ticman at Atty. Freddie Villamor, let's expound on cyber libel. Kasi talaga technically basic libel. Naging cyber libel.
03:30.0
I don't understand where he is coming from. I don't understand where he is coming from. How is it different when in fact it was only qualified because it was with the use of cyber technology?
04:00.0
Atty. Jojo Ticman at Atty. Freddie Villamor, let's expound on cyber libel. Kasi talaga technically basic libel. How is it different when in fact it was only qualified because it was with the use of cyber technology?
04:30.0
But why will they care?
05:00.0
May hagod sa utak ng konti.
05:31.0
Ewan ko. Sabi ni Cogito Ergozum, I think therefore I am. Kilala ko yan si Rene Decartes. Isa mga paborito ko yan. Pilit masyado. Sige let's go.
05:49.5
Vlogger ka at maraming followers sa iyong channel.
05:54.0
Ops. Si Raffy Tulfo yan. Vlogger tapos maraming followers sa kanyang channel. Okay. Let's go.
06:02.5
The more. The damage is mas malaki.
06:06.5
The more damage is mas malaki. Okay. I want to ask the lawyers here.
06:11.5
I want to ask the lawyers here. When it comes to libel or cyber libel, binibilang ba kong ilang tao?
06:28.0
Binibilang ba kong ilang tao? Ibig sabihin. Ibig sabihin. Let's cut the story short. Huwag na tayo magpaligoy-ligoy katulad nila.
06:37.5
Kung konwari 100,000 ang nakapanood o nakabasa, mas matindi ba ang penalty niya kesa 26 million ang nakapanood?
06:50.5
I don't think so. I don't think so.
07:00.0
Sinabi ba ng cyber libel o kaya libel na kapag mas marami ang nakapanood, mas matindi?
07:11.5
Correct me if I'm wrong. Kasi wala akong alam na ganoon. Ang elemento ng krimen na yan is publication.
07:22.5
Ang elemento ng krimen na yan is publication.
07:26.5
Atty. Tikman, can you please give us citations kung saan sinabi ng SC o ng kahit anong batas na kapag ops mas malaki yan kasi buong mundo ang nakakakita kaya mas matindi at kakaiba?
07:45.0
Can you please tell us where did you get that?
07:52.0
Pakibigyan kami ng citation kasi may libro ka. Please give us a particular citation.
07:59.5
Iba yan! Iba yan! Sir bakit po iba yan? Kasi nakikita ng buong mundo yan. What? Really now? Nakikita kasi ng buong mundo yan kaya iba yan? Kakaiba yan?
08:13.5
Pero when I look at the elements, kasi mga kapatid natin, I always tell you whenever we talk about crimes, we always look at the elements of the crime.
08:43.5
1 million to 10 million viewers, sobrang tindi. 10 million and above, Universal, Galaxy, mega-mega, tindi-tindi.
09:01.0
Ito ang problema ko kasi mga kapatid natin, if we don't give citations and if we just tell things to people this and that, kahit abogado na tulad ko hindi ako makasabay.
09:18.5
Kaya gusto ko magbigay kayo ng citation kung saan nakuha yan Atty. Jojo Ticman. Please give us citation kasi gusto ko matuto, nagtuturo kayo katulad ko. That's why I in my case try so hard to give citations.
09:40.0
Pero tignan niyo ang sinasabi nila dito. The more damage is mas malaki. The more the merrier. Yan lang ang alam ko.
10:10.0
That's a life sentence. I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine. I think Atty. Jojo Ticman owes us an explanation kung bakit niya sinabi ito.
10:26.5
Diba in libel or cyber libel?
10:31.5
Libel or cyber libel? Akala ko ba magkaiba yan?
10:45.5
Bakit niyo grin o grupo?
10:56.5
No truth is not a defense. Pinaliwanag ko na yan. I beg to disagree Atty. Freddie Villamor. Generally truth is not a defense.
11:07.5
Diba? Impliedly however, if the person is a public personality or a public servant, truth may be a defense. Pero generally speaking truth is not a defense.
11:25.5
That's my opinion. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
11:38.5
Pinapapatay siya o papapatay siya. Doon pa lang panalo na ako.
11:46.5
Kasi death wish ang sinabi ko. Gusto niya akong mamatay.
11:54.5
There's a huge difference between pinapapatay o papapatay at gusto niya akong mamatay.
12:02.5
Kasi magpapatala siya ng bulaklak. Send flowers. Send flowers.
12:13.5
Huwag naman. Ay, huwag naman.
12:15.5
Ay, huli sa mouth. Diba mga panas natin? Yan ang sinasabi ko sa inyo. Pinapahid nila sa akin. Yung kalokohan nila. Kalokohan niya yan. It's not mine.
12:33.5
Ay, ito si IGN7 Colorum. Malamang isang law student to.
12:45.5
According sa judge na proof namin the truth is not a defense unless it is a public officer or a public personality or celebrity.
12:54.5
It doesn't get. Nabasa niya. Attorney sa Refrigerator Act of 2023. Article 2201 Tulfo Brand of Justice. Limited edition. Alam niyo kung bakit limited edition yan? Sila lang na may kopya.
13:19.5
Ayaw ko na, nahihiyahan ako sa sarili ko.
13:24.5
Now generally, pag ikaw ay kinusukan ng cyber libel, proof of truth is not generally proof of truth is not a defense.
13:55.5
Why should we go into generics pharmacy? Ba't hindi tayo magmercury drug o Southstar? Bakit generic? Ang pinag-uusapan natin dito si Rafi Tulfo.
14:09.5
Sino ba yung nandyan sa video niyo? Di ba si Rafi Tulfo yan? Hindi niyo ba kilala yan?
14:16.5
Atty. Giorgio Ticman, Atty. Freddie Villamor, I'd like to introduce to you Rafi Tulfo. Rafi Tulfo is not only a public personality but also a senator of the Philippines. Ngayon kilala niyo na. Let's go.
14:32.5
For as long as there is no justifiable motive or good intentions.
15:02.5
The people deserve to know.
15:33.5
Accusation of a crime. Crime ba na a person is convicted na tatulad si Rafi Tulfo na convicted of libel? Or accusation lang na wala pang conviction?
15:57.5
Sabihin naliba Atty. Freddie, nagkasaga kita, rapist ka o swingler ka o mamamatay tao ka. Di ba? Kahit wala akong justifiable motive or good intention.
16:11.5
Medyo nagpopos na si sir. Pero tuloy natin.
16:15.5
Pwede akong ma-acquit ng libel kung mapapatunayan ko yung katulad. Ngunit ang naliba ang accusation mo.
16:24.5
Pero accusation eh. Saan niya kaya nakuha ito? Kasi pinakita ko sa inyo ang jurisprudence tungkol sa libel.
16:41.5
And if we talk about public personalities or public servants like Rafi Tulfo, kailangan ng actual malice.
16:49.5
Actual malice mga kabatas natin is of course extreme disregard of the truth.
16:55.5
Pagbigyan natin. Let's go.
17:17.5
So ito ba pagsinabihan mo yung isang tao na bobo ka, libelous yun?
17:30.5
Sige, sige, sige. Pagbigyan natin.
17:33.5
Di ba? So kahit napapatunayan ko na ikaw ay bobo...
17:56.5
Speechless talaga ako. Let's go, let's go.
17:59.5
Di ba? Hindi yun defense on my end. For that to be a defense, okay?
18:10.5
So dapat hindi daw defense na kapag napatunayan mo na bobo yung isang tao, hindi pa rin defense yun.
18:18.5
Pero napatunayan mo na eh. Hindi ba descriptive na yun?
18:28.5
Parang sinabi mong pangit ka. E pangit naman talaga siya eh.
18:38.5
Kasukang ka ng libel.
18:53.5
Medyo kailangan ko pa rin explanation. Let's go.
19:07.5
Eh paano pag descriptive lang? Parang sinabi sa akin na maitim ako. Tapos napatunayan talaga na maitim ako.
19:22.5
Kasukang ka siya ng libel. Sasabihin ko, wait lang. Kahit napatunayan mo maitim ako, hindi ko gustong sinasabihan na maitim ako.
19:42.5
Malibel tayo kapag nagsabi ng pangit. Di ba? Yung pangit sa itsura. Yung bobo sa utak. Parang ang bobo pangit yung utak mo.
19:52.5
Nawiwirdoan ako. I need more explanations. Let's go.
20:04.5
Sir dito, in this particular case, kung ang pinagbabasayan niya lang ay yung video na yun, how can he say na totoo yung sinasabi niya?
20:12.5
He's right agad. Kung ang pinagbabasayan niya ay yung video na yun, how can he say that he is right?
20:21.5
Well by watching the video. If people will see that in the video actually there is a death wish, then maybe he is right.
20:32.5
Ano bang ibang basihan natin except for the video? Parang pagpangit, ano bang ibang basihan natin kundi yung mukha? Kung bobo, ano bang ibang basihan natin kundi yung utak?
20:46.5
Ngayon, if we're talking about the video, at kung ano yung ginawa ni Rafid Tulfo sa video na yun, ano pa bang magiging basihan natin?
21:01.5
Siyempre, yung video lang. Nakakaloka na talaga. Mahilig sa solo fight na bisdak.
21:17.5
Siya niya lang ay yung video na yun, how can he say na totoo yung sinasabi niya? That's right. Wala namang binagat na pangalan. Panalawa.
21:26.5
Wala namang binagat na pangalan. Siyempre, yung video pa rin.
21:35.5
Ito, Atty. Ikman, please pakiliwanag din. Atty. Freddie Villamor, pakiliwanag din. Ano ba yung sinabi ng Supreme Court when it comes to libel?
21:47.5
Kailangan ba may banggitin na pangalan ng tao? Kasi nga, ang pagkakaalam ko bilang isang abogado na katulad niyo rin, hindi naman kailangan may banggitin na pangalan. Ang importante, the person is identifiable.
22:08.5
Yung sinabi ni Sen. Raffi is not in any way a death threat. Di ba? Hindi. And I agree with you. And the Tulfo vloggers agree with me also.
22:27.5
Paano yung pagsasabi ng inutil? Well pagtatanongin mo yung mga abogadong ito malamang i-spoil ko na hindi libelous yun pag si Raffi Tulfo nagsabi.
22:48.5
Pero pag ako at ibang tao sinabi kay Raffi Tulfo yun, libelous yun kahit mapatunayan mo na inutil si Raffi Tulfo. Easy. Then streams. Easy. I'll answer for them.
23:18.5
Gusto kong sagutin ni Atty. Jojo Ticman at Atty. Freddie Villamor yun. Yung pagsabi mo na inutil ang isang tao, libelous yun. Tapos siyempre, libelous ba yun? Tapos kahit mapatunayan mong inutil yung tao na yun. Pero alam niyo mga kabatas natin, may taong bobo.
23:38.5
Pwede. Kasi sa isang particular na bagay pwedeng bobo kayo. Parang ako. Di ba? Pag merong mathematician nagsabi sa akin na bobo ako sa math, yes. I will gladly accept. Pero yung taong inutil, sa tingin ko walang taong ganoon.
23:57.5
Kasi ang inutil ibig sabihin wala kang silbi. Lahat ng tao kahit kung bobo ka sa math, bobo ka sa batas, wala kang alam sa batas na mababatas ka, hindi ka parin inutil. Kasi pwedeng may silbi ka parin sa isang bagay. Paano? Sa pagpapakasal. Magaling kang magpakasal. Magaling kang magkaroon ng magaling kang mag-anak.
24:25.5
Magaling kang mag-joke. Mas matindi ang inutil sa bobo. Ang inutil wala kang silbi. Yan ang inutil. Ang bobo, pwede kang bobo sa isang bagay, matalino ka sa isang bagay. Di ba?
24:55.5
It's not even a death threat. Pero ang masakit...
25:25.5
... Ang masakit dito kasi ang implication na sasabihin mo isang senador ng Republica na ito may kapasidad na pumatay."
25:55.5
Kaya lang ganito na lang mga kapatid natin. Ito ang video ni Atty. Villamor sa pang-death threat libel at cyber libel. Babalik-balikan natin yan.
