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00:30.0
... Kaya nagkaroon ng referendum sa Saba kung kanino sila gusto. Ang basis niyan, there is a right to self-determination. People in the colonies have a right to decide anong gusto nila, sasama ba sila sa colonizer sa isang bansa o magsasarili sila magiging independent state sila. So important yan, that's part of the principle of international law.
01:00.0
... So the most we can do kasi dinaan natin sa legal process, we ask for a plebiscite. A plebiscite was held, kaya lang the people decided to join Malaysia. Ang sabi natin hindi free consent kasi hindi maganda ang pag-conduct ng referendum.
01:30.0
... We will ask for another referendum kasi hindi naman sasabihin ng korte o sa Pilipinas yan. Kasi ang pinakaimportante ngayon is the will of the people, their free choice kung saan sila gusto, where they want to join or they want to be independent.
01:48.0
Hindi pwede na because you belong to us before, you will still be with us. Hindi na kasi part of the decolonization process. So pag sinabi natin okay let's go to ICJ, ang action natin there should be another referendum. Yan lang.
02:07.0
... Hindi na ang dating arguments natin."
02:37.0
... Let's put it in the backburner. Pag ipilit natin yan, pag sabihin ng Malaysia mag-referendum tayo, patay tayo. So let's just put it in the backburner."
02:49.0
... Hindi ko na-relation justice because all along I was thinking, kung sakaling bumalik tayo, kunwari dumulog talaga tayo sa ICJ at pumayag ang Malaysia, we would still be using the old arguments na ginagamit natin.
03:01.0
... Because kinestion lang natin ang referendum. So the court will say then we'll hold another referendum. Wala tayong panalo dyan kasi in control sila ngayon. At saka of course, Malaysia is more progressive than us.
03:21.0
... Ang sabi ko, let's put that in the backburner because maybe 20, 50, 100 years from now, iba na ang principle of international law, hindi the self-determination. We can never know.
03:36.0
... So right now, the legal environment does not favor us because the only recourse we can do is to ask for another referendum."
03:45.0
... Salamat sa paglalino niyo sa Saba claim.
