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00:00.0
Okay, so ang tanong ko sa'yo
00:02.7
Secretary Llamas is
00:04.9
Are we witnessing the official end
00:09.2
And the beginning of a purge
00:10.8
So your argument is
00:12.3
The moment na lumabas itong
00:14.2
Coup plot discussions
00:16.0
That accelerated the process
00:18.2
To the next level
00:18.8
Kung baka yung sinabi ni Hemingway
00:21.5
Na it starts slowly
00:24.2
And then suddenly you lose everything
00:25.6
Yung parang big-big lang slow
00:27.7
And then suddenly everything gone
00:28.9
Is this what's happening?
00:30.0
Over the past week since I returned from Greenland
00:33.0
Nadala po lahat ng lamig ng polar
00:35.3
North Pole dito sa politika natin
00:38.4
Well, yung nakikita kasi natin
00:41.9
Bawat episode may climax
00:45.4
Starting last year pa lang
00:49.3
So hindi siya talaga actually
00:53.1
May mga bumps along the way
00:56.3
Bawat episode may climax
01:00.9
Tapos puputok na naman
01:02.2
Immediately after the election
01:06.3
Nagsimula na yan eh
01:07.9
When GMA didn't become speaker
01:11.0
Narinig mo na yung grumblings
01:12.9
When Vic Rodriguez was
01:16.6
As executive secretary
01:18.3
Together with the spokesperson
01:20.5
Nakita mo na yung grumblings
01:22.2
Nung nangyari yung pagbabago
01:24.9
Sa chief of staff of the armed forces
01:26.7
Na parang arbitrary
01:28.2
Na nagreklamo yung active
01:32.1
Nakita mo na naman yung mga grumblings
01:34.3
So maraming episodes na pumuputok eh
01:38.4
Ang pinakamalalaking putok
01:40.2
Nung nangyari yung tambalus-los
01:41.8
Nung natanggal si GMA
01:43.4
As a senior deputy speaker
01:48.6
As deputy speaker na rin
01:50.3
And is this a purge?
01:52.5
Laman ba yung kabila?
01:55.7
Itong unraveling ng UNITEAM
01:59.6
Hindi talaga siya dahan-dahang nangyari
02:02.6
May mga sporadic na explosions
02:05.7
At nitong nakaraang dalawang buwan
02:08.7
Mas matindi yung mga explosions eh
02:10.4
Nung tilanggal yung
02:12.3
Hundreds of millions of intelligence
02:14.5
And confidential funds
02:17.0
Nung naglabas ng statement
02:23.0
Si Digong calling for a tax boycott
02:25.6
Civil disobedience
02:27.4
That's almost a dishon eh
02:28.8
That's almost a dishon eh
02:29.0
That's almost a dishon
02:30.1
Actually that goes under the definition almost
02:32.8
Nung nagsalita si Banatbay
02:35.2
Their number on blabber
02:36.3
Calling for people power
02:42.1
Another one of their main blabbers
02:45.0
Bilang na ang oras
02:46.6
Bilang na ang oras ni BBM
02:49.0
Versyon ko ng Maharlika
02:54.2
Tapos itong statement ni Chief of Staff
02:59.7
Imagine the Chief of Staff
03:01.8
Binabanggit ang destabilization
03:04.6
At saka kudeta in the same speech
03:07.4
Na na-misquote daw siya
03:10.4
Nung dumating ka talaga
03:13.9
Kaya meron ka talaga mga negative energies na bitbet
03:18.8
Galing sa Greenland or wherever ka nang galing
03:21.9
Nag-accelerate na na mabilis
03:24.7
Itong mga pangyayari ito
03:25.9
At yung nangyari today
03:29.5
Si Deputy Speaker Arroyo
03:32.6
As Deputy Speaker
03:33.7
At ang pinalit sa kanya
03:34.9
Yung kanyang inaanak
03:36.2
Si Tony Petalbano
03:37.2
Talagang kinisikis sa mukha niya
03:41.6
Yung statement ni Joel Villanueva
03:44.5
Ni Chisa Escudero
03:46.2
At saka ni J.B. Ejercito
03:52.7
Ng Intelligence at saka Confidential Fund
03:55.5
Nung mga hindi naman dapat
03:57.5
Karapat-dapat na magkaroon yan
03:59.3
So ito na yung last
04:04.9
Totoo yung sinabi nila
04:06.5
Wala nang compromise sa Senate
04:08.1
Wala nang compromise sa BICAM
04:10.0
Yun yung nangyayari
04:15.4
Ex-President Duterte
04:17.8
Dapat pag-usapan publicly
04:20.1
Mayroon mo isang lawyer
04:22.3
Isang ex-president
04:23.4
Sinasuggest na pag-usapan
04:25.4
Ng CUDETA publicly
04:26.8
CUDETA is a military
04:31.8
Hindi lang yan illegal
04:34.0
Yan ay highly illegal
04:35.9
Tapos gusto mong pag-usapan
04:38.9
Saan ka ba nag-aral
04:43.5
Ng pagiging abugado
04:46.8
Ang kanyang expertise
04:48.0
Ang kanyang doctorate
04:49.6
So hindi kinakailangan ng batas doon
04:55.4
Let's keep things in mind
04:57.7
I mean we had two lawyer presidents
04:59.2
In the past half a century
05:00.5
One had the CUDETA
05:02.0
Very successfully
05:03.5
And had a new constitution
05:07.8
Not competent enough
05:09.8
But he's still trying
05:11.3
Even if he's not in power
05:13.2
So maybe there's something
05:14.8
With our legal training
05:16.4
Sa pansa na kailangan natin
05:18.6
Or the lawyers that became
05:20.5
Are the problematic samples
05:22.1
But let's go back to this
05:24.1
So what you're saying
05:24.8
Hindi ito marites lang
05:30.6
Within the armed forces
05:37.8
May apot na pinaghuhugutan
05:41.5
Na mukhang hindi naman rumors
05:43.5
Because chief of staff
05:45.1
Kahit nag-backpedal siya
05:47.4
Ay may mga complaints
05:55.5
Yung mga hindi na promote
05:56.9
Yung mga natanggal
06:02.8
Sa chief of staff
06:04.2
Yung nagkagulo sa DND
06:05.8
Tapos mayroon pang mga
06:07.4
Bukor na hinahunting
06:09.6
Mayroong head ng PSG
06:12.0
Nakasuhan ng murder
06:24.8
Nang electoral fraud
06:25.9
Na pinamangunuhan
06:28.6
Former Secretary Rio
06:29.7
Na dating general
06:33.8
Maraming military officers
06:36.0
Kung nabasa mo yung
06:37.0
Resolution na yun
06:50.7
Ni Secretary Diop
06:55.1
The elephant in the room
06:58.3
Hindi pa natuloy yan
06:59.4
Pero maraming galit yan
07:07.7
Itong mga nangyayari
07:12.4
Longest president
07:14.9
Nagiging presidente
07:17.1
Si Gloria Macapagalaro
07:21.6
Ng maraming beneficyo
07:30.1
Itong mga rumors na ito
07:31.6
At I'm almost sure
07:33.2
May nagdidikit-dikit dyan
07:36.2
Not only a political narrative
07:38.2
Kundi into a political project
07:42.3
Ni Chief of Staff Browner
07:44.4
Kaya Chief of Staff Browner
07:45.7
Mukhang nauna yung statement
07:47.4
Bago yung framework
07:50.7
Yung mga threats na yan
07:52.4
Dapat nakapaloob na yan
07:54.0
Sa isang strategy
07:55.0
O isang framework
07:56.1
Mukhang in retrospect
07:57.6
Na una yung announcement
07:59.9
Kesa dun sa framework
08:02.3
Kaya Secretary Año
08:04.3
Mas experience yun
08:06.8
Nasa sinasabi niya
08:08.9
Ang message ni Año
08:10.5
Ayusin muna natin
08:11.7
Baka bukang maglabas
08:19.1
Kasi spokesman yun dati
08:21.6
Maybe he has this kind of
08:24.0
Instinctive way of
08:26.1
Expressing things
08:30.5
Na nilabas niya yan
08:32.2
To warn yung plotters
08:34.9
Yung ginagawa nyo
08:38.2
Ay tutugisin namin kayo
08:43.3
But still an option
08:44.5
Pwedeng pinainan siya
08:46.1
Pwedeng pinainan siya
08:47.8
Anong may nagpa-plot
08:48.8
Para yung mga plotters
08:50.6
Ay ipaabot sa gobyerno
08:52.9
Huwag nyo nang gawin
08:56.8
Huwag nyo nang papasukin
08:57.9
Huwag nyo nang ituloy
09:02.8
Pwedeng may ganong
09:04.9
Ang tawag dyan sa
09:06.3
Counterintelligence
09:09.9
Yun yung nangyayari
09:11.0
So ito yung dalawang
09:15.5
Yung unang pinanggit ko
09:25.1
Ganito ang mangyayari
09:28.9
Shut across the bar
09:32.0
We're watching what's happening
09:33.2
So what you're saying here
09:34.8
It's a confluence
09:36.5
You have a former
09:42.1
And former secretary
09:43.2
Who's now openly questioning
09:45.8
Openly questioning
09:46.5
The integrity of the election process
09:50.2
Some of the rumblings
09:52.0
That happened earlier this year
09:54.2
Which also had to do something
09:55.5
With earlier appointments
09:56.8
When Vic Rodriguez
09:58.5
At least based on
09:59.1
Some of the reports
10:00.2
And then of course
10:01.3
There's the pension reform issue
10:04.1
Given how sensitive
10:06.8
Hindi pa kung ikaw
10:09.2
Medyo magingat ka
10:11.9
Na may influence pa rin siguro
10:13.4
Dahil hindi pa naayos
10:15.0
Itong pension reform issue
10:15.9
I don't even know
10:16.6
Jokno will be around
10:17.7
To oversee this process
10:19.4
This has to be coordinated
10:24.6
In fairness Richard
10:26.6
Wala pa dyang final decision
10:28.1
May ibang proposal
10:34.7
Ayaw nila nyan eh
10:35.7
Tapos hindi natin alam
10:36.9
Anong kinabukasan
10:38.7
Ni Secretary Jokno
10:39.7
Maraming maritest
10:41.0
Na siya ipapalitan eh
10:43.3
Compromise din yun
10:44.9
Dito sa mga grumblings
10:46.4
Dito sa mga galit
10:49.3
You need strong secretaries
10:53.5
You need a tag team there
10:59.2
You have two powerful
11:03.5
Marami pa rin utang na loob dyan
11:05.8
Within and outside
11:07.2
The military establishment
11:08.5
Pero from my vantage point
11:10.2
Ang tingin ko Richard
11:14.1
Yung chain of command
11:15.1
Dati kasi may mga
11:16.4
Organizations sa loob eh
11:26.6
In a different tone
11:28.4
Parang professional ngayon
11:30.0
Pero alam mo naman
11:32.4
There can be triggers eh
11:37.4
Katulad itong pension fund
11:40.1
Pag magkamali dyan
11:41.2
Ang handling ng gobyerno
11:42.3
That can be a trigger
11:44.4
Within the chain of command
11:45.7
Within the active
11:51.3
I'm not pushing back
11:52.3
Exactly against what
11:53.5
I mean these are factors
11:54.3
I've been looking at
11:54.9
Especially the pension reform
11:55.8
Ako naman sa pension reform issue
11:57.3
If US is strongly there
12:00.2
And US can support
12:03.8
Through other means
12:04.9
Like expanded foreign
12:06.5
Military financing
12:07.3
That could be the anchor
12:09.5
We're not supporting US
12:11.0
Getting into the game
12:11.7
I'm just explaining
12:12.9
That it's not like
12:14.4
BBM doesn't have a backing
12:16.7
And it's not like
12:17.7
The US does not have
12:19.4
Na hindi makagulo-gulo
12:21.5
Because AFP is very important
12:24.0
In fighting against China
12:25.2
Dealing with the Taiwan issue
12:29.8
Kind of contradicting
12:32.2
In terms of saying
12:33.8
Conflict avoidance
12:36.1
Isn't this playing with fire?
12:38.4
Or talagang wala eh?
12:39.6
His hands has been forced
12:41.1
Is this what we're saying here?
12:45.0
Conflict avoidance
12:46.3
Can be part of the problem
12:47.5
Dahil ang tingin sa kanya
12:55.2
Hindi pwedeng mangyari
12:56.5
At the very least
12:58.2
At itong pangyayari
13:00.9
Kung mapafinalize na yan
13:03.6
May blessing na yan
13:04.9
Kung mangyayari yan
13:05.9
Na mukhang nangyayari na
13:09.2
You can be conflict avoidance
13:19.8
You invite crisis right?
13:22.7
You invite crisis
13:25.1
With the last czar of Russia
13:27.3
I was just checking his biography
13:28.4
The last czar of Persia
13:31.5
Even the last emperor
13:32.9
Probably of China
13:33.5
Like a lot of these
13:34.5
Major empires that fell
13:35.6
Is because yung last king nila
13:39.1
And when you're indecisive
13:40.1
You invite others
13:41.3
To take the initiative
13:43.0
Either yung mga kakampi mo
13:44.6
Na aggressive hawkish
13:45.8
Or yung kalaban mo
13:47.0
Na mahinang tingin sa'yo
13:49.3
We're not contradicting ourselves
13:50.4
We're saying precisely
13:51.5
Because of the indecisiveness
13:54.1
Indecisiveness of the president
13:57.0
These aggressive moves
13:58.4
And counter moves
13:59.8
Which has created
14:00.7
This whole dynamic
14:02.0
That now is kind of
14:03.8
I think this is the fundamental
14:05.0
Argument we're making here
14:07.4
Kung titignan mo si Speaker Martin
14:10.8
Nung dumating si Nishida
14:12.2
Anong kanyang statement?
14:18.5
Umatake sa ating institusyon
14:20.7
So yung kanyang projection
14:22.7
Yung kanyang narrative
14:30.1
Dalalam niya may vacuum eh
14:31.8
Hindi sila pwedeng
14:34.1
Kailangan nila magpalakas
14:36.7
Kung yung big boss
14:38.0
Is conflict avoidance
14:40.5
Kaya sinusubukan ni Martin
14:41.9
Feel up on yung ganong
14:44.8
Yung kanyang narrative
14:45.7
These past few days
14:48.0
At yung mga kasama niya
14:49.5
Stand up and be counted
14:52.7
Winauwasa ka ang ating institusyon
14:55.2
Tapos nagteteka-teka tayo
15:00.4
Kailangan maging decisive tayo
15:04.6
With extreme prejudice
15:10.0
Yun naman yung message
15:11.1
Halimbawa ni Martin Romaldes
15:14.2
Hindi mo pwedeng atakihin
15:18.1
Kung ikaw ay walang loyalty sa akin
15:27.8
But the Japan now invested
15:29.9
So you'll feel confident
15:32.5
Guest ko lang ngayon
15:40.1
Ang tanong ngayon
15:41.8
Ang tanong ko sa iyo
15:43.7
Yung option ng China?
15:46.1
Richard Llamas na naman tayo
15:52.7
Ako kasi small R lang eh
15:55.2
Anong tingin mo sa China?
15:56.7
Anong magiging role nila rito?
15:58.2
Parang nakasandal din sila sa pader eh
16:01.0
Wala nilang kinabukasan eh
16:02.4
Aalis na nga sa kwal eh
16:04.6
Initiative ang kwal eh
16:09.1
Ako yung nag-announce nun
16:11.6
Hindi na to pivot
16:14.6
Anong tingin mo rito?
16:15.8
What will be the option of China?
16:19.4
Lalo na yung kanilang mga kakabbe
16:22.7
Yung kanilang kaibigan
16:28.8
Yan yung specialty mo ha
16:31.8
Ako politics lang
16:33.4
Alam mo Richard Llamas
16:35.5
Itong stance ni Ronaldo
16:38.6
Itong stance ni Ronaldo
16:44.7
Hindi galit sa akin
16:47.1
Dahil I effectively said
16:48.4
Philippines has pulled out
16:51.8
When I wrote that R
16:54.7
By Secretary of Transportation
16:57.1
Parang point niya
16:58.9
Parang hindi naman
16:59.8
Interesado ang China
17:00.9
We cannot wait forever
17:02.2
Yun yung term na ginamit niya
17:03.3
Sinasayang oras natin
17:08.4
And I had some friends
17:11.9
Di pumunta dun sa China
17:13.7
There was a mistake
17:14.5
In one versions of my article
17:15.8
Meron pa akong isa today
17:18.4
Ang tawag ko dyan
17:20.7
Kasi hanggang pledge lang
17:22.6
Dumating sa wala rin utang
17:24.2
Pero walang dumating
17:24.9
But China won't take this
17:28.1
They won't take this
17:30.2
But they're also not doing
17:31.2
Anything positively
17:32.4
They're just bullying us
17:34.1
In West Philippine Sea
17:35.1
They're just hoping
17:36.9
Parang sul-sul strategy
17:38.5
May limitation yung
17:39.9
Sul-sul strategy na yan
17:41.1
I think they think that
17:42.6
They will make us
17:45.1
What they don't understand is
17:53.2
You know what I'm saying?
17:54.3
So I think the Chinese
17:55.2
Are not reading the situation
17:56.4
Very correctly here
17:57.5
Or baka may ginagawa
17:59.7
Na hindi pa natin nakikita
18:04.6
Again, my point is
18:05.5
Are they doing good things?
18:07.4
Of course they're gonna do things
18:08.5
But ang point ko is
18:11.4
I know what you're saying
18:12.3
And you know that
18:12.9
I know what you're saying
18:16.4
Hindi naman tanga
18:17.5
Yung mga kabila rin
18:22.8
Actually I would say
18:26.6
Wala na si Digong
18:27.4
He couldn't control
18:28.3
Na the China policy
18:29.4
Talagang nag-take over
18:30.6
Ang establishment
18:32.0
Because ang palpak
18:33.0
Nung nangyara sa Reed Bank
18:36.2
From 2016 to 2019
18:40.7
Americans heart attack
18:47.1
So I think they learned
18:49.0
Don't take Philippines
18:52.1
Hindi lang yung mga
18:53.1
Nasa West Philippines
18:54.0
In the whole island
18:56.2
Huge things are happening
18:59.3
Is China smart enough
19:01.4
That they have to
19:02.7
My understanding is
19:04.6
Masyadong invested
19:06.6
Boys na in charge
19:12.1
And if they wanna go
19:15.5
Ready na yung kabila
19:17.0
Yun nga yung point ko
19:19.8
I don't know about
19:22.0
But I hope yung China
19:22.9
Medyo matawahan sila
19:24.3
Na malabong kausap
19:25.5
Mga kausap nila dito
19:26.6
At maybe it's time for them
19:30.0
Hindi ako hater sa China
19:31.2
I love their culture
19:32.8
I've had many Chinese good friends
19:34.5
Back during your president's time
19:36.6
I said we should engage
19:38.0
So I was never a China hater
19:41.3
Duterte's China policy
19:42.8
Kumbaga dahil kay Duterte
19:44.0
Nasira ang China sa akin
19:48.0
Hindi naman makasahan to
19:49.2
Parang ganoon na argument ko
19:50.5
I want China to treat
19:52.0
Us like they're treating Indonesia
19:53.3
Like they're treating Singapore
19:55.9
They know that they're bigger
19:56.9
Ba't di ka babastusin
19:58.9
Tingnan mo naman si Jokowi
20:00.2
Tingnan mo si Li Shenglu
20:01.2
Pag kinakausap yung China
20:03.8
May investment na pumapasok
20:05.5
May mga kompromiso
20:07.7
Sa atin parang kinakausap tayo
20:09.5
Banana Republic eh
20:10.8
Dahil kay Digong yan eh
20:12.2
So dapat ayusin natin
20:13.7
So I think they're still not realizing
20:15.4
The Philippines is
20:16.7
A bit less of a Banana Republic
20:19.3
Maybe I don't know
20:21.1
Medyo mas matigal
20:22.0
Medyo may mas basis
20:23.9
So I think they're still
20:25.3
Going through that process
20:26.3
But they're not fast enough
20:28.2
They're not sharp enough
20:29.2
Ang problema Richard
20:30.5
The moment has passed eh
20:33.8
The moment has passed
20:36.4
Ang audience ng China
20:37.7
Is more their own population eh
20:40.2
Inward looking na sila eh
20:42.6
Lalo na with all their problems
20:44.4
Na nag-unrebell ngayon
20:47.5
Tinitignan nila tayo
20:49.6
Pero ang main concern nila
20:53.2
Yung kanilang sariling population
20:54.7
Na ito yung mga problema
20:56.2
So ang tingin ko sa kanila
20:57.8
Mas magiging wolfish sila eh
20:59.7
Mas magiging wolfish sila
21:02.6
West Philippine Sea
21:09.3
Kaya we have to contend with that
21:11.7
Mahirap na tayong itrato
21:14.8
Mahirap na tayong itrato
21:17.6
In the next decade or so
21:19.4
I wanna end on this note
21:21.6
Dahil hindi ko na-record
21:22.9
Let's finish this episode
21:24.9
Because the next episode
21:25.7
I wanna talk about
21:26.6
Digong as opposition
21:28.3
Like what's gonna happen
21:29.6
But before we go there
21:31.1
Maging exciting yan
21:32.2
Let's talk about this
21:36.6
Recently guest of
21:38.8
On the other side
21:40.9
He said something like
21:42.1
Baka makakagyera na
21:43.3
Or something like that
21:44.0
Basta nakita lang
21:47.2
Sino yung tinutukoy ni Ronald
21:58.1
Yung tinutukoy mo
22:05.9
Is a two-edged sword
22:09.6
Baka akala ni Rafi
22:12.1
Kekirahin na tayo
22:21.2
Ay he will become
22:24.5
Naging irrelevant na siya
22:26.3
Nang panahon ni Digong
22:27.4
Medyo nagpasabog siya
22:30.0
Medyo nagbigay siya
22:31.5
Pero dapat kasi yan
22:32.9
Based on solid evidence
22:34.5
Based on clear analysis
22:44.4
Masyado kang paranoid
22:46.0
Tapos bordering ka na
22:49.8
Yun naman ang sinasabi ko
22:51.3
Thank you so much
22:54.6
For that great analysis
22:56.5
Let's go to our next episode
22:58.5
Which will be even more exciting
23:01.3
Yung mga ex-Uni team
23:02.5
Saan pa sila pupunta
23:03.4
Except opposition
23:06.1
If you're opposition
23:08.9
Sasali sila sa booth natin
23:12.2
Thank you so much
