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00:00.0
All right, yan. Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa ng mga live stream.
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Mga kabatas natin, balik tayo dito.
00:10.6
Ito naman ang title niya, Philippine Senate Leaks, Sino Ang Salarin?
00:14.9
Kasi nga, syempre, wala naman tayong magagawa kundi kumuha na lang ng hints
00:19.0
kung ano ba talaga yung nangyari because hindi pa naman natapos talaga yung usapan nila tungkol dito
00:24.8
at magkakaroon daw ng investigasyon.
00:26.3
Ang nakuha natin so far, mga kabatas natin, eh, lahat ng mga senador na nagsasalita dito
00:32.4
ay nagbabanggit ng kanilang seniority.
00:35.7
Kaya we can get a hint from there, malamang na baguhan o medyo bago yung senador.
00:43.3
Ito nga naman, mga kabatas natin, ay syempre, critical thinking lang.
00:48.2
Okay, critical thinking lang. Doon talaga makikita.
00:51.0
Otherwise, they will not mention their seniority.
00:56.3
Pangalawa, mga kabatas natin, ang nasaktan, yung parte nila, Jingwe Estrada,
01:01.8
kung saan, na-mention, sinabilyar, sinabato.
01:06.1
In other words, yung mga pinapalabas nila na pro-confidential funds.
01:11.8
Sila yung umangal.
01:14.4
Ngayon, mga kabatas natin, yun din namang mga parang pinapalabas nila
01:20.3
ng news report na anti-confidential funds ng Office of the Vice President.
01:26.3
Hindi naman masakit.
01:27.6
Parang gano'n, ang lumalabas.
01:29.7
So, ano na ang pwede natin tignan o basihan para malaman?
01:37.6
Kasi syempre, mag-iimbestiga sila. Mag-iimbestiga rin tayo.
01:42.8
Baguhan o kaya medyo bago lang.
01:51.7
Hindi kasali doon sa mga pro-confidential funds.
01:54.7
O anti-confidential.
01:56.3
Hindi kasali doon sa pro-confidential funds ng Office of the Vice President.
02:00.7
O kaya, o kaya, hindi binanggit.
02:06.9
Kasi pag titignan mo ang umaangal, yung mga binanggit na pro-confidential funds.
02:20.8
Ngayon, sinasabi ko sa inyo, bakit hindi maganda ito?
02:23.8
Katulad ng isang trial by publicity.
02:27.0
Because the decision of the senators will be influenced by the public.
02:36.8
Ang problema dyan, ang mangyayari, padamihan ng trolls.
02:43.1
Uy, trolls. Sino yung madaming trolls?
02:45.8
Padamihan ng trolls.
02:49.3
Ngayon, madaming trolls dyan sa comment section.
02:51.7
Doon kayo sa mga susunod na dalawa.
02:55.5
Seryosong usapan dito, hindi nyo maiintindihan nito.
02:59.2
Padamihan ng trolls ang mangyayari.
03:02.1
Ngayon, kung nakita nila na parang, uy, parang mas madami na gustong mag-pro.
03:07.0
O kaya, mas madaming gusto akong mag-antay.
03:11.2
Ngayon, hindi nila iwe-weigh yung pros and cons ng kanilang desisyon.
03:16.3
Ang titignan nila ngayon,
03:18.6
what will make me look good?
03:25.5
What will make me look good?
03:29.1
Ngayon, hindi na nila titignan kung maganda yung gagawin nila o pangit.
03:34.3
Titignan na lang nila saan ba ako mas pogi sa mukha ng tao.
03:39.1
Even if I believe that dapat pro ako o dapat anti ako.
03:49.4
Yun ang malaking problema dito.
03:52.4
Baka yung nag-leak, yun din ang gusto niyang mangyari.
03:55.5
Gusto niyang magkaroon ng sway votes
03:58.7
if eventually they will have a division of the house.
04:03.9
Pag nakita nyo, sinabi na rin ni Jinko Estrada.
04:07.9
We unanimously agreed upon na tanggalin na lahat yan.
04:20.3
Healthy discussion on how we will treat this budget,
04:25.5
on the confidential and intelligence funds.
04:28.3
It's not fair to say that one group was for this and one group was for that
04:32.9
because in the end,
04:34.4
tama po sinabi ni Senator Estrada.
04:38.2
Di ba yung sinabi ko?
04:39.9
They divided the house.
04:42.1
One for this and one for that.
04:44.7
Sino ang pinapalabas na masama dito?
04:48.1
Yung mga for this.
04:50.8
Kaya yung mga for this ang umaangal
04:53.0
kasi kasali doon si Jinko Estrada.
04:55.5
Pogi for the survey. Oops.
05:06.5
We were unanimous in the committee report
05:10.7
that the good gentleman from Aurora will be...
05:13.7
Ito, ito sabi ni, ano, ni Your Game is a Scam,
05:17.8
That is what we don't like.
05:19.1
Because if you bandwagon,
05:20.9
you don't actually rely on...
05:25.5
research, statistics, or data.
05:28.2
You just rely on popular belief.
05:31.6
We don't like that.
05:33.4
Because popular belief is not necessarily
05:35.9
the nice or the good thing to do.
05:44.6
Presenting today,
05:45.9
we are in full support of this committee report.
05:52.4
I am very alarmed.
05:55.5
That's why we were late.
05:56.6
I usually try to start at 3 p.m.
05:58.6
We had a meeting with the leaderships.
06:01.6
Bakit kaya wala si Rafi Tulfo dito?
06:03.3
Anong oras ba nag-uumpisa yung Rafi Tulfo in action?
06:08.2
Nag-uumpisa yung Senate nila.
06:10.4
Itong session nila usually nag-uumpisa ng 3 p.m.
06:16.4
Bakit kaya wala si Rafi Tulfo dito?
06:19.9
Pero di siya nagsalitain, no?
06:25.5
Ano sa tingin nyo ang dahilan?
06:27.7
Wala ba siya dito o meron siya?
06:30.4
Anong oras nag-uumpisa yung Rafi Tulfo in action?
06:43.7
Nasaan siya kaya?
06:54.4
Tanong lang naman.
07:00.8
Ito, gusto ko yung sinabi ni Lars Balaw dito.
07:03.8
Dito natin makikita kung meron paninindigan mga senador
07:06.7
na parusahan ang kapwa senador.
07:11.0
Dito natin makikita, mga kabatas natin,
07:14.5
if the senators really are for the people
07:18.8
or for their colleagues.
07:22.7
Dito nyo makikita kung ang pinag-uumpisa,
07:24.3
pinaglalaban talaga nila,
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eh yung mga bumoto sa kanila.
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O yung mga kapwa nila senador.
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Because this is a huge breach.
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Ang penalty dito,
07:35.9
expulsion from the Senate.
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Hindi basta-basta yun.
07:45.6
Because that is expulsion already.
07:47.6
That's the worst penalty that you can get.
07:52.2
If you are a senator,
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administratively.
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yan yung reclusyon perpetua sa criminal law.
07:59.8
Yan yung pinakamataas na krimen.
08:02.4
Pag criminal law ang usapan.
08:04.1
Kasi pinakamataas na penalty ang binibigay.
08:16.3
Pinakamataas na penalty ang binibigay.
08:18.9
And if they brush this aside,
08:21.1
ano ang sasabihin ng tao sa kanila?
08:24.3
Ito, sabi ni, ano,
08:35.3
Protect their own yan.
08:39.7
Protect the people, please.
08:45.0
Ayaw natin ng padrino system.
08:48.6
People or padrino system.
08:57.1
The pieces that decreases during executive session.
09:01.5
The executive department and very sensitive
09:05.8
agencies of government
09:07.0
may no longer divulge information to the executive session
09:12.7
if they know somebody might leak it.
09:15.0
That why I take this very.
09:17.6
Alam niyo mga kapadid natin.
09:20.0
Irrelate ko rin yan.
09:21.3
Para matututong tayo...
09:22.4
In relation to...
09:26.5
there will be amicable settlements
09:29.8
court annex mediation na tinatawag
09:32.7
at saka yung judicial dispute resolution
09:34.7
nag-uusap yung dalawang
09:36.5
partido dyan para magkaroon sila
09:38.7
ng settlement. Ngayon
09:40.6
kung may mga sinasabi dyan na okay
09:42.4
babayaran kita ng ganito, bibigay ko
09:44.6
sa'yo yung ganito, okay
09:46.1
may admissions man o wala
09:48.7
they are not admissible in court
09:52.3
Just like an executive session
09:54.1
it is confidential
09:58.5
eventually pag lumapit
10:00.4
sa'yo yung isang tao o lumapit ka sa
10:02.2
isang tao, nagkaroon kayo
10:03.8
ng pag-uusap tungkol sa pag-aareglo
10:07.3
nakita mo na parang oh
10:09.9
umamin naman siya, tas eventually
10:12.3
pupunta ka sa korte, umamin siya doon
10:14.2
sa court annex mediation, you cannot use that
10:18.5
Kasi pwedeng yung pag-amin niya
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kasi doon ay para lang
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matapos na yung kaso
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that is buying peace, pwede
10:26.2
yung pag-sorry niya, kunwari nag-sorry siya
10:28.2
that is buying peace, pwede
10:30.2
Pero kapag hindi natapos yung amicable settlement
10:33.2
walang settlement na nangyari
10:35.2
you cannot use that in court
10:41.2
strongly and I make sure
10:43.2
and I told the majority floor leader
10:49.2
Rabacerong young man, she's already poisoned the well, she's missed lang doon
10:51.0
Sabi ni ano, Rabacerong young man, she's already poisoned the well, she's missed lang doon
10:53.2
Yung source ng article pwede yung sabihin na gawa-gawa niya lang
10:56.2
Downside, pwede siya ma-libel yun na yun
10:58.2
Downside, pwede siya ma-libel yun na yun
11:01.2
I was kinda expecting that
11:03.2
Kasi basing on how
11:05.2
Chis Escudero also
11:07.2
defended Erwin Tulfo
11:09.2
defended Erwin Tulfo
11:15.2
of his appointment
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as a DSWD secretary
11:20.2
Dinount play niya rin eh
11:21.2
Dinount play niya rin eh
11:23.2
Dinount play niya rin
11:25.2
yung conviction sa libel
11:33.2
May ahas na nakapasok sa Senado
11:35.2
May ahas na nakapasok sa Senado
11:37.2
I even called up Senator Nancy Binay
11:39.2
because she is the head of the ethics committee
11:41.2
that we have to send a very
11:45.2
that this shall not happen
11:49.2
So, majority floor leader?
11:51.6
Yes, Mr. President.
11:53.0
Before I give my statement, Mr. President, which I...
12:01.4
Tignan nyo kasi napaka-generic din eh.
12:03.6
Konting-konting hints lang yung binibigay nila.
12:06.5
Sabi ni Nonsense yun, chismis lang.
12:09.3
Yan yung sinabi nila.
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Pero, if you will dismiss this as chismis,
12:17.5
Ano ba ang tawag doon?
12:27.0
Magmumukhang syunga yung mga tao na nang-react ng ganyan sa chismis.
12:36.6
Di ba? OA nyo naman.
12:37.8
Pero, pag titignan nyo, do you think they're kidding?
12:40.7
Sa tingin nyo ba, itong mga senador na ito?
12:47.5
Chismis lang ang tingin nila doon?
12:50.1
Sa nangyari na yun?
12:51.9
And, most of them, especially doon na nandoodoon,
12:57.3
sa na-mention na pro-confidential funds, isolated,
13:01.6
do you think that's chismis?
13:06.1
I actually agree with your manifestation and the statements made by our dear colleague,
13:14.0
Sen. Jingoy Estrada.
13:15.1
Sen. Chis Escudero is seeking...
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...the floor to clarify something, Mr. President.
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Yan. Ito na. Ito na.
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Yung, ano, yung...
13:25.8
Parang, sinabi kanina na poisoning the well, no?
13:29.2
May I just recognize...
13:30.3
Thank you, Mr. President.
13:31.3
Mr. President, I agree 100% with what Sen. Jingoy Estrada said,
13:37.0
that the account is not accurate and that is not what transpired in executive session.
13:46.9
it's not accurate.
13:54.2
It's not accurate.
13:55.5
Kasi pag accurate, sabi mo, 100% eh.
13:58.8
Pero ang nangyari kasi dito, at sasabihin nung ano mamaya, blow by blow eh.
14:03.4
Alam niyo yung blow by blow?
14:05.6
Yung blow by blow account, yung nangyari mismo, ang pinalabas.
14:11.6
So, dito, tignan niyo yung gagawin ni Chis Escudero.
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I hope, Sen. Jingoy, you and I...
14:16.9
I will not be sanctioned for saying part of what happened, as you said,
14:20.0
it was the unanimous consensus of the members of the Senate in executive session.
14:26.1
So, this is not the facts contained in the article, Mr. President, Your Honor.
14:33.3
Yes, it is not the facts.
14:36.5
But, some of it are.
14:41.7
Pero Chis Escudero would like to dismiss this as chismis.
14:46.9
Sabi mo kasi ito, as chismis, wala nang investigasyon na mangyayari.
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Ibig sabihin, walang nag-leak.
14:54.0
Totally in-invento lang yun.
14:56.0
Yun yung ginagawa ni Chis Escudero dito.
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It's not a leak. Chismis yun.
15:08.2
Ibig sabihin, sinasabi dito ni Chis Escudero, walang dapat managot.
15:20.0
Pag leak, dapat may managot.
15:22.2
Bakit? Kasi may nag-leak eh.
15:23.7
Pag chismis, walang dapat managot.
15:26.6
Yun yung gustong ipalabas ni Chis Escudero dito.
15:30.2
Tama yung sinabi ni Clown Prince TV.
15:34.4
Gusto niya palampasin.
15:44.7
Ba't sila galit na galit?
15:53.0
Chismis the point.
15:59.7
I don't agree with him here.
16:03.9
Bakit ikaw yung katangit-tanging goods lang yung nangyari?
16:14.2
Kalimutan na lang daw.
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Sabi ni Leandre Reid.
16:19.0
Palampasin equals protektahan.
16:31.4
Mahirap mag-defend, no?
16:37.1
Isipin mo dito, no?
16:38.8
Sinabi ng iba may leak.
16:40.6
Pero, sasagutin din siya ng konti mamaya eh.
16:43.5
By using the word blow-by-blow.
16:46.9
Blow-by-blow account of what transpired in the executive session.
16:54.0
Ito kasi ang isipin nyo to.
16:55.6
Kung di sinasabi ni Chis Escudero na Chismis yan, yung nangyari na yan.
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It will not be close to the truth or there will be no truths.
17:04.8
Katulad ng sasabihin ko sa inyo na yung nangyari sa senado sa kanilang executive session,
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eh nag-usap sila kung ano yung mas masarap.
17:23.2
Itong si Chis Escudero, sabi niya mas masarap yung balot.
17:27.6
Kasama niya, apat pa sila.
17:29.0
Yung kabila naman, sabi nila penoy ang masarap.
17:35.8
Pero kapag it's tainted with the truth and it is manipulated, it is not accurate.
17:51.7
Pwede naman kasing maghalong Chismis yan at leaked.
17:56.3
Ang ginagawa ni Chis Escudero dito, you have to choose.
18:01.3
Kung totoo yan o accurate yan, so leaked.
18:05.0
Pero kapag inaccurate o may hindi totoo, Chismis.
18:10.3
That's not how it is.
18:12.1
It can be both a Chismis and a leaked.
18:21.6
Perhaps, to ah...
18:24.2
Tama yung sinabi niya ano dito, Nino Nonsense.
18:27.9
It's a false dichotomy.
18:34.9
Create a story about it, but I confirm the statement of the good Senate President and the Senator Jingoy that
18:40.3
it was the unanimous position of the House, of the Senate rather, what Senator ang...
18:45.0
Pag nakikita mo kasi,
18:46.9
you have the feeling that he wants to brush it aside.
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Hayaan nyo na, Chismis lang yan.
18:53.8
Ungara will be sponsoring today and the other vice chairpersons.
18:57.1
That was the unanimous position of the Senate and all the members of the Senate.
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Thank you, Senator Escudero.
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But before we ask our colleague to react, Senator Estrada,
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may we ask the majority floor leader, what are the rules, particularly in executive session?
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Yes, Mr. President.
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So we are all clear.
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Thank you very much.
19:16.0
Mr. President, first of all,
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Ito na, mga kabatas natin, ito na yung rules, ha?
19:20.4
Put into the records that I'm...
19:22.7
Isipin nyo, isipin nyo ito.
19:24.5
If it just, it's, it's just purely chismis.
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It's an, it's, it's inaccurate.
19:33.1
It's wholly inaccurate.
19:35.7
Do you think they will go to this extent?
19:38.3
Ganto na ba sila kababaw?
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I'm aghast of what happened, Mr. President.
19:45.8
Whether this is...
19:46.9
Is leak or pure chismis, the fact that it came out, Mr. President, and...
19:52.1
Pero, it came out, eh.
19:57.6
So it was leaked.
20:01.3
Pwede rin kasi na chismis yung nangyari.
20:05.1
Eh, ano ba ang definition natin ng chismis?
20:16.9
They really believe it's leaked.
20:23.6
Ano ba ibig sabihin pag may lumabas, nag-leak, di ba?
20:30.1
Is leak or pure chismis, the fact that it came out, Mr. President?
20:35.7
Pag nag-leak yung bubong mo, may lumalabas na tubig.
20:39.8
Water is coming out.
20:42.6
Kapag nag-leak yung radiator mo,
20:46.0
water is coming out.
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Water is coming out.
20:53.3
And it appears blow by blow, and...
20:57.7
It appears blow by blow!
21:05.3
I think, Senator Cheese,
21:08.1
I would believe Senator Joel Villanueva here,
21:13.3
and Senator Chingoy Estrada,
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Senator Cheese Cudero,
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It appears blow by blow!
21:20.9
Tignan nyo ang ibig sabihin ng blow by blow, ha?
21:46.4
Oxford, mga kabatas natin, no?
21:47.7
Oxford languages.
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Oxford Dictionary.
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A description of an event.
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Giving all the details in the order in which they occurred.
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Yung chismis yan, Cheese.
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Do you think, yung chismoso at yung pinag-chismisan,
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they can give all the details in order in which they occurred?
22:40.5
Detailed and sequential.
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O, balikan natin yan.
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Unfortunately, Mr. President,
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the figures, the numbers,
23:16.4
the names that were mentioned were disoriented, Mr. President.
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I would just like to put into the record of this chamber, Mr. President,
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what our rules say about executive session.
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Rule, what's this?
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Rule, on Section 126 of our rules, Mr. President.
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Mr. President, section, sorry, Section 129 of our rules, Mr. President,
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it states here, and I quote,
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who violates the provisions contained in the preceding section,
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may, by a two-thirds vote of all the senators,
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be expelled from the Senate.
23:57.5
And if the violation...
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That's the highest penalty.
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Si Kamen Easy sabi niya,
24:12.3
baka alam ni Cheese kung sino nag-leak.
24:16.4
Hindi ko rin alam.
24:18.4
Eventually, we will know.
24:20.4
Sana, they owe the Filipinos to divulge who that person is.
24:28.4
Because public office is public trust.
24:32.4
Now, if you guys can't even trust your kapwa-senator,
24:36.4
how will the Filipino people, the voting public, trust that senator?
24:43.4
If he is untrustworthy,
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if he is untrustworthy.
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If the legislator is an official or employee of the Senate,
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he shall be dismissed.
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I'd like to put that on record, Mr. President,
24:56.9
because at the end of the day...
24:59.4
Sa sa tingin niyo ba,
25:01.4
malaki ang tsansa na ito ay tauhan
25:06.4
at hindi senador?
25:09.4
Ano sa sa tingin niyo?
25:10.4
Ano sa sa tingin niyo?
25:11.4
Ano sa sa tingin niyo?
25:13.4
Ano sa sa tingin niyo?
25:14.4
Boto nga kayo ng 1
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kapag sa tingin niyo,
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malaki ang tsansa na ito ay empleyado.
25:22.4
Kapag hindi naman,
25:24.4
press niyo yung 2.
25:26.4
Press 1 kung sa tingin niyo pwedeng empleyado ito.
25:31.4
Press 2 kapag hindi siya empleyado.
25:36.4
Pag hindi siya empleyado, ibig sabihin senador.
25:44.4
Pag hindi siya empleyado, ibig sabihin senador.
25:51.4
Pag hindi siya empleyado, ibig sabihin senador.
25:52.4
Alam niyo, malaki ang hint na makukuha natin doon sa sinabi ni Bato.
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Kung empleyado ba ito o senador?
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Kung empleyado ba ito o senador?
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Maraming 2. Parang 2.
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Maraming 2. Parang 2.
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Kung napanood nyo ito
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Napanood nyo yung sinabi ni Senator Bato
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Makakakuha din kayo ng hint
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Na malaki ang chance
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Na senador ngayon
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At tuloy natin ito
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It's not just the leak or chismis
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That we're talking about here
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And I agree with Senator Jinggoy Estrada
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Here in the Senate
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Meron na naman tayong panggit ng mga veteran senator
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It's more of the sanctity
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It's more of the sanctity
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Of the executive session
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Perform our duties and responsibilities
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Here in the Senate
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During committee hearings
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He would call for executive session
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E papano tayong pagtitiwalaan
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Ng mga nasa executive
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Papano tayong pagtitiwalaan
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Kung ang ating executive session
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Yung mga ganitong pangyayari
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Kasi pagtitignan nyo ha
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Kapag empleyado ito
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Kapag empleyado ito
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Madaling i-eliminate
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Hindi malaking problema
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Yung empleyado na ito
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Ang mag-executive session
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It's not a problem at all
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Ang laking problema
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Bakit ang laking problema ngayon?
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Again, Mr. President
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Majority floor leader
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The preceding section
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Is very important
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The President as well as
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The Senators and Officials
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And Employees of the Senate
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Of the confidential
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And all proceedings
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Which might have taken place
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In connection with the said matters
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Shall be likewise considered
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By two-thirds vote
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Of all its members
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The ban of secrecy
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So ganoon ka'tindi
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Very clear, Mr. President
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You think they will go to this?
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If staff lang yon?
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Ay magkakaroon ng lakas ng loob
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Crystal clear, Mr. President
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Senator Gingoy is seeking the floor
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Move the TV right
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Yes, Senator Strada
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Thank you, Mr. President
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I would like to associate myself
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With the comments made
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By the Majority Leader
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Kahit chismis yan
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That is, for me, that is the most important thing.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
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Thank you very much.
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Senator Minority Floor Leader?
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Senator Bato de la Rosa is seeking the...
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Okay, mga kapatid natin.
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Putulin natin dyan.
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30 minutes na tayo.
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Tignan natin yung mga sinabi ni Senator Bato de la Rosa
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at saka yung mga iba pa bukas.
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Maraming salamat mga kapatid natin
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at syempre, tulad na lagi yung sinasabi,
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matulog po tayo ng mahimbing dahil alam natin
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na yung natutulog ng mahimbing,
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siya yung laging panalo.
