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00:01.8
Made in Maritas 3
00:05.2
First of all, before we go to Tulfo
00:08.6
Before we go to Trillanes
00:10.0
Before we go to Riza and Opposition
00:11.9
What's going on with Aimee Marcos?
00:14.5
What's her game plan here, Ronaldo?
00:18.7
Well, nakita naman natin
00:19.9
Immediately after the election
00:22.4
Nakita naman natin yung mga personal rift
00:25.1
Between the first lady and the first sister
00:28.2
Tapos kahit papano
00:31.7
Nadamay yung presidente
00:33.3
Dahil parang hindi niya pinapakinggan yung kanyang sister
00:36.9
Halimbawa, during the first zona
00:39.1
Very apparent yung differences nila
00:41.4
Sa gustong pag-usapan sa first zona
00:43.6
Kaya nakikita na natin
00:45.0
Pero it's much deeper than dati
00:47.4
Mukhang itong family feud na ito
00:51.2
It's worse than House of Cards
00:54.0
And House of the Dragon
00:59.0
So, talagang kwento eh
01:03.0
Filipino telenovela
01:04.8
From a different vantage point
01:07.1
Halimbawa, ang tingin ko dyan
01:08.3
Wala naman talagang future si Aimee sa mga Duterte
01:12.4
Dahil ang tingin ko before
01:14.4
Ay parang malabo naman na siya ay maging vice president
01:19.3
Kahit meron siyang mga away at tampo sa pamilya
01:22.7
Sa dulo, ay parang wala siyang future
01:26.1
Kahit si Harry Roque
01:28.2
Sa isang interview niya last month
01:30.3
Sabi niya, imposible yan
01:31.6
Pero, after nitong mga talks about destabilization
01:37.5
About the new opposition
01:40.5
About coup d'etat
01:43.2
Sabi ni ex-president Duterte
01:46.2
Kahit mag-iisa na lang ako
01:47.9
Itutuloy ko yung laban sa aking mga prinsipyo
01:51.9
Diba? Principal ngayon si Duterte
01:54.1
At sumunod naman si Aimee
01:55.9
Sasamahan ko siya
01:57.7
Kahit mag-isa na lang siya
02:00.0
Mukhang mali yung aking assumption
02:04.8
Baka ang tingin ni Aimee
02:07.3
Wala na siyang future dito sa kanyang kapatid
02:11.4
Sa kanyang sister-in-law
02:13.1
Sa political alliances ng kanyang pinsan
02:17.4
At ang tingin niya, yung kanyang future nandito na
02:20.6
A couple of days ago
02:23.0
Sabi ni Harry Roque
02:25.9
Mukhang magandang combination yan
02:29.9
Sarah for president
02:32.6
Aimee for vice-president
02:34.3
Dahil parehaw silang may bayag
02:36.2
Hindi ko lang sigurado kung si Harry may bayag
02:41.8
Pero at least sinabi niya na yung dalawang babae ay may bayag
02:45.6
Medyo hinahinay lang sa tatay ko
02:58.6
Tignan nyo naman o, yan o
03:00.0
Sambaba ko nang galing
03:02.8
Basta naman na yung mga
03:04.9
Basta naman naman
03:05.7
Basta min-blue kid naman, Mark
03:07.9
Kireport ko yun nung isang araw
03:10.8
Sorry, sorry, Mark
03:15.9
Parang big deal din na nang galing
03:18.5
I call him Tatay Harry
03:19.8
Na nang galing kay Harry Rock
03:22.1
Kasi itong si Harry
03:24.0
Si pinaka-loyalist
03:25.8
Tanitong si Sarah
03:29.8
Kung para i-push niya yung
03:35.8
Medyo, medyo may ano yun
03:37.3
And I think that's what
03:38.2
Aimee is aiming for
03:40.3
Yun talaga ang game plan niya
03:41.8
She will run for re-election
03:45.5
Hindi mayor na Manila
03:49.4
Dapat narinig ko na yan
03:51.0
Nung barangay elections
03:53.2
And it doesn't make sense then eh
03:55.4
Mahirapan siya kay Sko
03:59.4
And it doesn't make sense then
04:02.1
Parang sure win naman siya
04:05.1
And that gives her a chance
04:06.5
To campaign for another 3 years
04:08.4
Nothing to lose siya sa 2028
04:11.2
Yun yung she's aiming for ano eh
04:17.7
Mga naninira kay Sarah
04:19.4
That gives her a chance na
04:21.4
Siya yung taangat
04:22.9
Kung, kung nandun siya sa
04:25.4
Ano nang mga Duterte
04:28.7
That gives her a chance
04:33.3
The presidency after her
04:36.2
Parang hindi din na
04:38.0
Yung naging strategy
04:41.1
Binibigay na kahit ano
04:45.0
To the other side eh
04:46.1
Instead of having her
04:48.8
You think there should be
04:50.3
Like what could be
04:51.2
A realistic Consuelo
04:53.2
Consuelo that could work
04:57.4
Kung what would be enough
04:59.2
Kung anong mga department
05:04.9
Sa mga pamilya ni Ivy
05:06.8
Mga bataan ni Ivy
05:09.3
What would be enough
05:10.4
Nung maramdaman lang niya
05:13.0
Kung baka maisan tabi
05:14.1
Yung mga personal na
05:18.5
Sarili niyang pinisan eh
05:20.1
Mukhang sarili niyang pinisan
05:21.2
We didn't siyang taluhin eh
05:23.3
And anong itsura nun sa tao
05:25.3
Yung mga Marcos loyalist
05:29.2
Caught in the middle
05:30.5
Na hindi sure kung duterte
05:33.3
Nandun kay duterte eh
05:34.6
So I can remain a loyalist
05:36.6
And still support
05:39.1
Kasi nandun si Ivy eh
05:41.0
Meron na nga yung hashtag
05:46.8
Parang sa Marseille
05:53.4
Si Ivy matalino din eh
05:55.2
Si Ivy matalino din eh
05:55.6
She knows the magic
05:59.5
Yung power nung tao
06:01.0
And alam din niya
06:01.9
Na siya din naman
06:05.1
If you put them together
06:06.2
Ang hirap talagang talunin
06:14.6
They gave her some
06:16.4
They gave her a part
06:24.0
There is realistic
06:35.7
Na pinagbabatayan
06:41.3
Very critical siya
06:44.2
Very critical siya
06:52.9
Very critical siya
06:59.9
Mga economic policy
07:01.6
Very critical siya dyan
07:06.8
Pa-relevant lang yan
07:09.9
I think that's genuine
07:15.8
Yun ang gusto niyang
07:38.2
Ng kanyang kapatid
07:43.1
It's more personal
07:45.9
Isang pinanggagalingan
07:48.7
Siya yung hinanda
07:50.4
To be a president
07:53.2
Hindi yung kanyang kapatid
07:55.1
Kaya may gano'ng klase
07:59.1
Na ako yung hinanda
08:00.4
Bakit ito yung presidente
08:02.7
Tingin ko malalim
08:04.6
With the first lady
08:09.6
Ay isa sa dahilan
08:12.4
Kaya medyo malalim
08:14.2
On a personal level
08:20.6
Wala namang ginagawa
08:31.9
Doon sa kabilang kampo
08:36.3
Pwede pa rin may small chance
08:40.8
Maliit na possibility na yun
08:42.5
Lumiliit na gusto
08:43.5
Parang tayang pato na siya
08:46.1
Nung sinabi niya na
08:48.6
Sasamahan ko siya
08:51.1
Mahalagang statement yun
08:52.8
Dito sa mga nangyayari
08:56.8
Do you have something to say
08:58.0
Before we transition to
09:01.4
Mamaya na si Rafi
09:03.8
Rafi na lang tayo
09:08.0
Where do you see Rafi coming in
09:09.3
We see na yung issue
09:13.5
Parang may banat na
09:15.5
May banat na naman
09:28.4
Where's the Rafi angle
09:30.6
What is Rafi doing for you
09:35.8
From your perspective
09:46.7
Naniniwala talaga ako
09:48.1
And I like yung style niya
09:50.1
I like yung pulso niya
09:54.5
He has the best chance
09:59.9
Kung magkaroon ng
10:00.8
Elections na one-on-one
10:02.3
Diba sa presidential
10:06.4
Ginagawa lang yan
10:08.0
Siguro nakikianos siya
10:09.5
Nakikibagay siya sa lahat
10:11.3
Ako mas interested ako
10:12.6
Tignan yung ginagawa
10:15.7
Where Erwin is going
10:21.7
Mukhang may ano eh
10:24.7
Siyempre pagkakapatid
10:25.6
May kanya-kanyang ginagawa
10:27.2
Merong isang direction din eh
10:30.2
Ang end goal pa rin
10:31.8
Is to have a Tulfo
10:34.3
Tinitignan ko yung
10:35.2
Mga galaw ni Erwin
10:38.3
Speaker Romualdez
10:54.4
Sa Taylor Romualdez
10:57.1
Weapon pa rin talaga
10:58.6
Speaker Romualdez
11:02.4
Ang tinitignan ko eh
11:07.2
Hindi niya kailangang
11:08.5
Mag-take ng side eh
11:11.5
Ginagawa lang ngayon
11:17.9
Aligned yung magkakapatid eh
11:20.6
Sa susunod na election
11:21.9
Si Ben Tulfo naman
11:29.6
Habang mainit sila eh
11:31.1
And why not diba?
11:43.3
Forced to reckon with
11:46.1
Akin pagdating sa mga
11:48.2
Binabantayan ko ngayon
11:55.0
I wanna comment this
11:58.3
Trying to explain
11:59.4
Yung confidential fund ni
12:01.2
I mean you could say that
12:02.1
Maybe Erwin was actually
12:04.1
Doing his own thing
12:05.6
I'm not saying it's an
12:06.3
IME BBM situation
12:09.6
We could also have a situation
12:10.7
Of each of the Tulfo brothers
12:14.5
Kung ako nagtawag
12:15.6
Bakit siya yung magpresident
12:17.3
You know what I'm saying
12:18.0
Like I mean of course
12:20.4
We are on good terms
12:23.7
Between any of them
12:25.8
If Erwin tops this
12:28.2
Then why shouldn't he
12:33.2
I mean where do you see
12:33.9
This going Ronald
12:35.9
The next big force
12:39.2
Hindi ko sigurado
12:41.6
Yung mga relasyon
12:43.8
Iba-iba rin yung mga
12:44.5
Personality niyan
12:45.5
Pero from my vantage point
12:47.9
Magkalapit si Erwin
12:50.7
Hindi sila magkalayo
12:52.3
Kumpara halimbawa
13:03.2
For my vantage point
13:05.0
Magkaayos silang dalawa
13:14.8
Hindi siya masyadong
13:21.4
Shooting distance
13:23.5
Siya doon sa number one
13:25.4
At medyo bumababa
13:27.0
Sabi mo nga kanina
13:28.4
Mataas pa rin si Sara
13:29.9
Pero ang tinitignan kasi natin
13:31.5
Are not the absolute numbers
13:33.1
Ang tinitignan natin
13:34.5
Are the movement of numbers
13:36.9
Yung dalawang survey
13:37.8
Pulse at saka Octa
13:39.7
Medyo bumababa siya
13:42.2
Yung dalawang pang survey
13:44.3
Then delikado siya
13:46.4
Dahil magiging trend na yan
13:47.9
Yun yung delikado
13:48.9
Na dapat gwardihan nila
13:51.0
Ang sinasabi ko lang
13:54.3
Yung kanyang presence
13:55.3
Huwag masyadong malayo
13:56.6
Huwag masyadong invisible
13:59.4
Masyadong prominent
14:00.5
Dahil maaga pa eh
14:02.7
Pinupuruhan na siya
14:06.0
Sinisimula na siyang
14:10.0
Masyadong prominent
14:14.4
Dahil tatakbo siya
14:20.5
May pagka-attack dog
14:24.2
West Philippine Sea
14:25.2
Banat siya sa mga
14:28.0
Sumasama siya sa mga raids
14:30.8
Sa intelligence fund
14:34.4
Attack dog ng kaunti
14:41.2
Kaya ang binabanatan niya
14:51.3
Mahalaga sa agriculture eh
14:53.1
At saka employment
14:54.2
At binabanatan niya
15:01.1
Sa buong Pilipinas
15:03.1
Pwede magkakaroon
15:04.1
Di ko kilala mga yan
15:05.0
Di ko kilala mga yan
15:06.2
So pwede magkakaroon
15:07.8
Yung kanyang atake
15:09.9
After the midterm
15:11.9
Tingin ko diyan siya
15:13.8
After the midterm
15:15.0
Ngayon before the midterm
15:16.2
Babalansihin niya eh
15:17.5
Babalansihin niya
15:19.6
Pero not too much
15:23.4
Tingin ko tama yun
15:27.2
Dahil tatakbo siya
15:31.4
Nagdagdag ko lang din ha
15:32.4
Huwag tayong tumigil lang
15:36.4
Kasi napakarami nila
15:43.3
Sa Batka District 2
15:46.7
Sa Partido Federal
15:51.4
Card-carrying member
15:55.1
So ano ibig sabihin nun?
15:57.0
Siyempre hindi gagalaw yan
15:58.1
Ang walang basbas
16:04.5
In the future din
16:10.6
May sariling following din
16:12.3
So the Tulfos are
16:15.2
Or on an expansion mode
16:18.1
They have to be careful din
16:20.4
Kung kanino sila mag-a-align
16:22.1
Kung kanino sila mag-ano
16:25.3
Ninuwala talaga ako
16:26.4
Itong magkakapatid
16:28.3
Ang end goal nila
16:29.6
Is to have a Tulfo
16:33.4
Dagdag sa sinabi ni Mark
16:36.1
May iba't iba pang
16:38.7
Na pwede mangyari
16:42.9
As vice presidential
16:44.4
Candidate ni Sara
16:46.4
At medyo mataas din
16:47.3
Yung kanyang rating
16:47.9
At magkapatido sila
16:51.6
Pinoproject din yung sarili niya
17:00.2
Hindi pa niya sinusuko
17:01.4
Yung kanyang ambisyon
17:02.3
Na maging presidente
17:03.2
Kahit hindi pa niya sinasabi
17:05.3
Pumaporma na rin siya
17:07.3
Pwede rin mangyari
17:11.9
Si Speaker Martin
17:15.7
Magkaroon ng compromise
17:20.5
That's a distinct possibility
17:23.0
Kung aangat si Martin
17:27.3
So marami pang possible
17:31.6
Four and a half years pa
17:33.6
So maraming mangyayari pa
17:35.8
Ang sinasabi ko lang
17:38.7
Anything can happen
17:41.9
Doesn't that give the leverage
17:44.7
Because he will be the admin
17:46.0
For 2028 elections
17:49.7
Thumb on the deal
17:53.6
Malakas pa rin si BBM niyan
17:55.6
All of those permutations
17:57.3
BBM's choice will be decisive
17:59.2
Martin, Tulfo, Tulfo
18:01.8
All of them, right?
18:03.1
In one way or another
18:03.8
He'll be very decisive in that
18:05.2
Except kung malakas si Sarah
18:09.4
So magiging lame duck siya
18:10.9
Kung malakas si Sarah
18:12.1
Kaya nga sinasabi ko kanila
18:15.5
Para pababain si Sarah
18:16.8
Is one and a half years
18:18.1
Kung hindi nila magagawa yan
18:23.6
Complexion ng political landscape
18:25.9
Magbabago yung complexion
18:28.6
Pero at the same time
18:32.0
Non-administration pa
18:33.7
Na posibleng pumorma
18:39.8
Depende kung ano yung
18:43.2
War of position, di ba?
18:49.1
So this will set the tone
18:50.4
For our next episode
18:51.5
Because in the next episode
18:53.6
Separate na lang natin
18:56.1
Kasi medyo nakatakot din yun
18:58.3
Let's talk about the opposition
19:00.7
Ideological opposition
19:04.6
Had some back and forth
19:08.3
I make a distinction
19:09.1
Between functional opposition
19:10.5
And ideological opposition
19:13.4
The Dutertas are the opposition
19:15.2
But ideologically
19:15.9
I don't think they're really
19:18.3
So let's now talk about
19:24.1
And you're saying
19:30.3
Let's talk about that
19:31.4
So I'll leave that
19:32.1
For the next episode
19:33.5
Parang pag sinabay lang natin
19:37.0
It deserves its own episode
19:40.1
Thank you very much
19:41.0
Marco and Ronaldo
