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We can bring the good and the bad.
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The Political Conversations with the Mayors
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Marcy, maraming salamat sa pagkakataong ito.
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Maraming salamat din, Boy.
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At napakaganda ng umpisa ng ating pag-uusap tungkol sa ating mga nanay.
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Mahalaga sila eh dahil sa kanila tayo nang galing, sila nagturo, nagpalaki. Hanggang ngayon.
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As a public servant, as someone who is in politics, ano ang pinaka-importanting leksyon na natutunan mo sa nanay?
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Maging mabuti sa iba. Ang nanay ko, teacher. Kung saan ako nag-aral, doon siya nagtuturo eh.
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una kong lesson sa kanya, fairness eh.
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Hindi dahil nanay ang teacher ko, eh magagawa ko yung kahit ano.
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Kailangan maging modelo ka raw eh.
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Dahil para walang masabi sa nanay mo.
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Let's talk about leadership.
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Ano ang konsepto mo ng leadership as a public servant?
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It's a continuing dialogue with the people, I think.
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There should be engagement with the people.
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May governance is that of common sense governance.
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Kung ano yung sinasabi ng tao.
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Dialogue, as I have said earlier, it's a continuing dialogue with people eh.
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Pag alam naman natin, pag sa amin yung dialogue, pakikipag-usap eh.
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At pakikinig din sa tao kung ano yung kailangan, ano yung dapat gawin.
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Ganon ko tinitingnan eh.
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Ganon ko tinitingnan eh.
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Nagiging pragmatic din ako. It's a philosophy.
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Pragmatism. Kung ano yung ordinaryo, nandayin yung kahulugan eh.
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Ako, naninawala ko kay C.C. Roe sa Republic Boy.
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The welfare of the people is the welfare of the people.
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It's the supreme laws.
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Yung relationship, yung gobyerno, yung governance, gobernare, to steer, to lead.
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But you cannot lead in front of the people or behind the people.
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You should be able to lead with them.
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Paano mo napapagtagpo-tagpo itong the ideal and what is real?
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Power emanates from the people.
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Umabalik ako palagi dun sa tao.
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Saan ang galing yung kapangyarihan.
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But isn't the assumption people knowing also its power and its responsibility to dictate power on leaders?
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Yes, correct. Ang advantage ko na siguro sa isang maliit na bayang katulad ng Marikina,
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magkakakilala ang mga tao.
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Yung sense of accountability mataas.
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Magsasabi sa iyo, pag may ginawa kang mali o hindi maganda,
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it will reflect to your whole family.
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It's a concept of family again. Tingin ko.
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Yun lang ang advantage namin.
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We're not a highly urbanized city like the other big cities in Metro Manila na hindi na magkakakilala ang mga tao.
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Anong ginagawa mo at napapanatili mo yung relasyon mo sa nanay?
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Napapanatili mo yung pagiging lokal, pagiging personal, pagiging tao, pagiging guro?
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How are you able to survive?
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The challenge really to be in government or to be in public service
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is how to maintain who you are when you first entered politics.
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Ako, tinatandaan ko na yan.
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Ako, makikita ako ng mga tao sa amin.
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Simple pa rin, ganun pa rin.
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Pag meron akong mga decision making sa City Hall,
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I ask the experts, of course.
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Dapat data-driven talaga yung decision mo.
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Pero pagkatapos nun, pag gawin yung final decision,
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bababa ako sa City Hall.
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Lalakad ako doon sa maliit na plaza na nasa harap ng City Hall.
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Misan, pag naimbitahan ako sa birthday ng isang taga-Marikina,
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nakikipag-usap ako, nakikinig.
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And from that point, malalaman ko lang kung ano yung kailangan.
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Itong accessibility ninyo sa taong bayan,
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bumababa ka sa plaza, nakipagkwentuhan ka,
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at kadalasan ang ikunikwento sa'yo ay problema.
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Wala kaming pambili ng pagkain.
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Ang anak ko walang pang tuition fee.
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And these are not long-term problems.
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These are immediate problems of the moment.
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Parsley, paano yun?
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Nag-aabot ka kung ano yung kaya mo.
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Charity begins at home.
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Ang charity begins at home naman, ang concept naman,
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kung ano yung kaya mo, i-aabot mo.
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Hindi naman gaano kalaki.
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Kundi kung paano mo inaabot,
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at paano mo ipinaunawa sa kanya.
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Kung wala ka mang perang na i-aabot nun,
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directional ang tulong mo.
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Tinuro mo kung paano ang gagawin.
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Kung saan pupunta.
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O kaya kung hindi mo matulungan ngayon,
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Dahil ama naman ako ng lunsod.
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Yung hindi ko maibigay ngayon,
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bukas ibibigay ko sa'yo.
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At minsan yung pakikipag-usap at pakikinig,
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minsan ay malaking bagay sa iyong kausap.
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Kaya importante yung halimbawa may sinabi ka,
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Doon mabubuo yung tiwala ng tao.
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Is Marikina better because of your leadership?
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Are people of Marikina happier because of Marcy Chidoro?
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Hindi ko masagot, Boye,
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dahil tao talaga magsasabi.
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But you would get that sense.
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You would be able to discern
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insofar as your performance is concerned.
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Nari-elect ako ng dalawang beses.
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This is my last term.
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I think it's an affirmation of what I have done.
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What kind of service you've done.
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Is it expensive to run locally?
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It's not expensive.
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Hindi malala ang vote buying sa Marikina?
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Dahil may empowered citizenry tayo.
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Kilala kung sino binaboto.
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May mga attempts before.
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Pero binaboto pa rin ang tao kung sino yung tingin nilang malalapitan nila.
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Saka binaboto pa rin nila.
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Alam nila na may ginawa nung nakaraan.
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Maraming pera ang Marikina?
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Hindi katulad ng ibang syudad.
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Hindi ako interesado doon sa buwis eh.
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Mas interesado kami doon sa...
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Halimbawa, meron kami sa shoe industry na zero tax.
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Kung ikaw nagsisimula pa lang.
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Mga nagtitinda ng karinderiya.
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Yung mga home base.
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Yung mga marilit na sari-sari store.
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Pag ang kinikita nila sa isang buwan ay mababa lang.
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Or not more than 100,000 in a year's time.
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Ibig sabihin nun, hindi yung negosyo eh.
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Ano yun eh? Pangkabuhayan lang.
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Kung naunawaan mo kung ano yung kanilang pinagsisikapan nun.
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Yung pangbaon lang nung anak nila eh.
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Yung pangkain lang nila araw-araw.
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Kaya we don't collect tax from these establishments.
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Meron kaming mga ganong pamamaraan.
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May programa kami.
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Tulad ngayon, nagkaroon ng price cap on regular and well-milled rice.
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I asked my city council to pass an ordinance
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para doon sa mga maliliit na rice retailer na nasa public market namin.
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Huwag munang pagbayarin ng rental nila para doon sa mga stall na inuupahan nila sa public market.
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Nung nakaraang eleksyon, I moderated an international forum.
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On some Asian countries, including Singapore, Malaysia.
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Isa tayo sa mga participants.
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Ang pinag-usapan ay yung electoral process.
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At may nagsabing, kami sa Singapore, we're also polarized.
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Pero kami, ang description nila sa kanilang pag-aaral, benign ang aming polarization.
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The short of the long story, nung napunta na sa Pilipinas, because I was just listening,
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ang ginamit nilang salita ay predatory.
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Ang Pilipinas, pagdating sa politika, divided.
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Pero pag hindi mo binoto ang kandidato ko, mali ka.
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Let's localize the question. Ano ang naganap sa Marikina?
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Were you just as divided? Were you different in the last electoral process?
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We're similarly situated with the other cities.
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But I think the discussion in Marikina is more...
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In a way, yes. Oo.
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Kasi ang Marikina, alam naman natin, it's a Jesuit mission.
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So, maraming mga taga-Ateneo, maraming nag-aaral sa universidad.
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So, it's really, ano, the discussions were then historical, ideological.
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Pero hindi ba mas malala pag nagiging intellectual na ang differences at ang polarization?
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Because people, you know, stop listening to each other.
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May dialectic, may thesis, may anti-thesis ka.
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But at the end of the day, they will be synthesis eh.
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Tingin ko, ganun naman nangyari sa Marikina.
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Saka, ang isang advantage sa Marikina, close-knit yung families eh.
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Malapit sa isa't isa eh.
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Halos magkakamag-anak ang mga taga-Marikina.
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Kaya kung meron na nagtatalo-talo, naguusap-usap,
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mga magkakamag-anak, magkakakilala rin na alam nila,
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at the end of the day, pagkatapos itong political process o electoral process, kami pa rin ang magkakasama.
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But it can go both ways.
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Kami pa rin ang magkakasama.
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May nagpatuloy na hindi na naguusap.
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Because of the closeness of relationships.
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Pero salamat, hindi naman nagkaganon.
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Hindi ko alam, hindi naman nagkaganon.
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Problema talaga sa atin kasi yung party system eh.
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Let's talk about that.
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It should be really strengthened eh.
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So, if you talk about the party system, what are your thoughts?
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Either way, whether it's a two-party or a multi-party,
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but there should be really a clear guideline
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or a law that would define what is a party and what should be a party.
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Tulad sa Indonesia, you cannot be a candidate without meeting the eligibilities that they have.
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Tapos, pag bumoto ka sa kanila, makikita mo sa balota kung ano yung platforma ng partido.
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Hindi sa Pilipinas.
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Pag boto mo, makikita mo yung pangalan ng tao.
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Naniniwala ka that the Constitution should be amended at this point?
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It should be a living Constitution.
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It is. It should be.
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It should be able to answer the call of the time.
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Lalo na ngayon yung advent ng technology eh. Iba na.
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That point leads to the discussion of nung the framers naman, nung ginagawa nila yun,
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wala pa yung onslaught of technology and social media.
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Correct. Correct.
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So this is a general question, Marcy, and I want to put it very strongly.
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Hindi lahat, pero bakit napaka-corrupt ng politiko dito sa Pilipinas?
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Nakakalimutan ng tao.
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Ang tao should also be assertive with their rights.
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They should demand for good governance, I think.
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Good governance is imperative.
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Ibig sabihin ng good governance, from my point of view, is yung
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there should be an efficient way how to deliver the services required by the people.
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There should be effectivity.
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Yung ganong bagay.
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Ang Pilipino, minsan tinatanggap na lang na okay na yan.
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Sila naman ang nakupo eh.
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Sila nakakaalam eh.
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We should be able to empower our citizenry.
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Meron silang forum dapat eh.
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Meron silang lugar kung saan they could masasabi ito.
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Sobrang lawak ng mayaman at mahirap dito sa bayan natin.
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Ano ang thoughts mo?
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There is inequity.
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There should be equitable.
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Dapat kung sino yung mas nangangailangan mabigyan ng mas marami.
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Yung kulang sa buhay, mabigyan ng pagkakataon sa edukasyon,
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kaya yung free education, health services, dapat mas mapagbute sa kanila.
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There should be practical steps.
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That we could take.
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In terms of bridging that chasm, that gap na napakalayo.
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Hindi naman achievable.
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Tingin ko yung there should be equality talaga eh.
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Dahil at the outset naman ang tao naman ang sinasabi nila ang state of nature naman natin talaga.
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Iba-iba yung capacity natin eh.
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Iba-iba yung kakayahan natin eh.
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Talaga mayroong iba mas may kaya.
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Minsan physically, intellectually or even in their, ano, yung kanilang disposition in life.
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Iba-iba eh. Iba-iba.
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Pero balik tayo sa Marikina.
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How strong is tourism in Marikina?
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Yung programa namin hindi pa ganun kalakas eh.
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Word of mouth lang eh.
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Pag may nakapunta sa Marikina, nakapunta sa isang restaurant na masarap yung naka, eh.
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Ikaw kwento niya, magyayaya ng kaibigan.
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Yun yung ano eh, isang challenge na gusto ko sanang ma-address sa Marikina.
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Sana ma-ibran namin yung...
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At napakayamang kasi ng kwento.
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Dahil ang Marikina, located along Marikina River eh.
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Connected to Pasig River.
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Saka ang Marikina dati eh, before the Commonwealth period ng 1930s, would extend as far as Nagtahan area eh.
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Saka kaloocan eh.
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So, yung Ateneo dati eh.
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Yung UP, yung Katipunan area, Marikina dati yan eh.
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Maraming hindi nakakaalam.
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Nung Holocaust, ang Marikina ang nag-a-host na sa mga Jews na tumira dito sa Pilipinas.
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That's the reason why we have a special relationship with Israel.
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Dahil yung pahingahan, rest house ni Presidente Quintana.
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Ay nasa Marikina dati.
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Yung PSBA area ngayon.
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Where do you see yourself 10 years from now, Marcy?
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Ah, taga-Marikina pa rin.
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Maraming hindi na ako politiko.
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Hindi na ako mayor.
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Ayaw mong ipagpatuloy?
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Kahit sabihin ng tao na kailangan namin ng maraming Marcy sa aming buhay?
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Depende sa kanilang sasabihin.
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Pero ako nakikita ko rin.
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Sabi ko nga kasi, power is transitory.
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Yung authority is transitory.
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Alam ko matatapos at matatapos naman.
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On your third term, ano yung pinakamalaking pangarap that has yet to be fulfilled?
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Free college education.
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We were able to provide the access by providing free tuition fee.
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But quality of education is another thing that we're working on it.
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Yung kasi talaga nakikita kong pag-asa ng mga tao.
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Our river rehabilitation, we have started with our river rehabilitation.
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11 kilometer river dredging na ginagawa namin ngayon.
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We were able to widen and deepen the waterway from 55 meters to 90 meters ngayon.
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But our target is still 100 meters.
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After that, we should be able to put this to protection.
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But ang idea hindi lang water channel.
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Kundi dapat yung bank of the river maging usable.
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For promenade, as parks, playground.
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Kailangan namin ng space.
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I want public space to be developed.
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You're doing a lot for Marikina.
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And you would refer to Lee Kuan Yew and Singapore once in a while.
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I just wanted to raise this point because he has a book called Hard Truths.
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Ang lumabas dito ay yung continuity of leadership.
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Pero ang parating sinasabi ni Lee Kuan Yew,
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I am not obsessed with power.
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Pero I built this country with a lot of people.
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But I want young people to understand that Singapore was a marshland.
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And it is a first world country today.
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And I'm not going to allow loss of memory and young people to forget what we've done.
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So if I have to be with government,
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if I have to be a senior minister, which he was,
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Because I want to protect my country.
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Having said that,
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how do you make sure that Marikina moves forward from where you are today?
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I could be a friend to the next government.
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That's how it should be?
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Yeah. I could be a friend to the next government.
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Why? Is it tiring?
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Hindi naman nakakapagod eh.
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You just want to give other people a chance to leadership?
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No. It's recognizing the fact that my time will lapse and my time will end.
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I understand that.
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My time will end.
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If you were to write your epitaph as a last question,
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how would that go?
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Tagang Marikina ako.
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And that will, I think, define everything.
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That would cover everything?
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Dahil pag tagang Marikina ka,
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it's an embodiment of ideals of the community.
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And it is your story?
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Yeah. It's my story.
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Including the story of your mother?
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I don't have a personal, but my story is with my community.
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No. It's your core.
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With my community.
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Marcy, maraming salamat.
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Salamat din, boy.
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Salamat sa pag-uusap na ikaw.
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Maraming, maraming salamat.
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Hi, people of the Philippines and people of the world.
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Let's keep talking.
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