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Alright!

Como estas, mi amigo?

Ricardo!

Ricardo, Ricardo. Before we go

to the Singaporean Prime Minister,

of course, medyo trotsky yung

ano natin, drama natin

like the idea that

you may not be interested in

conflict, but conflict will be interested

in you, right? Which brings us back

exactly to BBM, right?

Exactly!

So, it is true that

BBM is the most conflict-avoidant

president perhaps now, but the

reality is, conflict is coming

to him and potentially on two different

fronts. So, no less than the

Singaporean Prime Minister,

Li Shenglu. This is not Li Kuan Yew. The father was

medyo carry and he'll say

everything. Pero itong alak niya, medyo

okay siya. I mean, you know, I know about

I've dealt with them a lot, itong generation

of leaders of Singapore. Sabi niya, are you sure

referring to us Filipinas, you want to get into

a fight when you will be the battleground? So,

medyo parang

bakery forum yung dating niya

saan? But anyway, I mean,

that was quite something and I think it's quite a genuine

fear being expressed by some of

our neighbors here. And Singapore knows a lot because

they deal with China a lot. But before we go to the Singapore

part, let's talk about the domestic front part because

potentially, BBM is

now facing a two-front

conflict. Not war yet, thankfully.

At least not in the West Philippines yet.

But ito eh, at related

yung dalawang front na yan. Kasi

the common denominator is China,

di ba? Ronald,

sa tingin mo ba, handa si Marco?

I mean, Marco Marcos? I mean, what's going

on here?

Kipasa! Kipasa!

What's going on? It's about

political and military

strategy. Sabi mo ah,

if you're confronting two fronts,

tanggalin mo yung

isang front.

At mag-focus ka doon

sa main front. Ngayon,

para tanggalin yung isang front,

either kapusi mo yung

away dyan, or

makipag-settle ka, makipag-compromise

ka. Eh, kaso, itong

isang front mo, hindi

naman ito yung mga compromising front eh.

Di ba? Ito yung mga

pag natalikod ka, sasaksaking

ka sa likod. So, ang gawin mo, tapusin mo

na yan. Tapusin mo na yung

away na yan, para makapag-focus

ka doon sa main front

mo. The biggest

navy in the world, the biggest

armed forces in the world,

the second biggest economy in the world,

doon ka mag-focus. Pero,

hindi pwede na habang kaharap mo

yung major

front na yan, meron kang

fifth column. Di ba?

Meron kang mga, hindi mo alam

na pag talikod mo, sasaksaking ka

sa likod. Di ba? Hindi pwede

yun eh. Di ba? Kahit ikaw

ay conflict-averse, you have to

settle this with

finality. At dyan

papasok yung ICC.

You can use the ICC

para tapusin

yung panay. Meron kang unique opportunity,

eh. Hindi na yung babalik,

yung opportunity na yan.

Pag hindi mo yan ginamit,

tapos kaharap mo itong major

front. Sa likod mo, sa tagiliran mo,

meron kang mga

kapwa-Pilipino ka na hindi

malinaw yung loyalty

at are out

to get you.

So tapusin mo na yan. If I were him,

para humarap dito.

Para humarap dito.

Kalawa, kung i-deconstruct

natin yung away na yan, yung

major front na yan,

hindi naman tayo nakikipag-away, eh.

Very simple yung ating ginagawa.

Meron tayong BRP-Sierra Madre

na bubulok, kinakalawang

na barpo, na nandun sa loob

ng ating EEZ.

Alam ng China, hindi nila yan

pwedeng pasabugin because it's an

active vessel. Pwedeng

i-invoke dyan yung Mutual Defense Treaty

na ang China hindi pa handa.

Hindi pa sila handa. Alam nila

there's still a generation away

militarily from the

forces of the West.

At yung mga Chinese, very pragmatic

yan. Hindi yan papasok

sa away na hindi nila kayang ipanalo.

Hindi katulad ni Putin.

Hindi katulad ni Russians.

Oo. Kaya nga for a

long while, yung Xiao and Lai

framework, ang dominant foreign

policy na nila. Let us

outweigh the Americans.

Let us outweigh the West.

Huwag tayong bumunggo. Baka mangyari sa atin

nangyari sa Russia. You mean Deng Xiao

and Lai, not Xiao and Lai.

Ah, Xiao and Lai.

Xiao and Lai also.

Diba?

So, yung ginagawa natin,

hindi yan papasabugil, hindi yan

wawasakin ng China. Anong gagawin nila?

Tatanggalan nila ng oxygen.

Diba? Isaswarm nila

para hindi tayo makapasok.

Para eventually, tayo na lang ang kusang

umatras. Yun ang ginagawa nila.

Hindi pwedeng isuku

yan ni BBM.

Anong magiging itsura niya sa Filipino people?

Diba? Anong magiging itsura niya

sa kanyang mga allies?

Kahit siya ay conflict-averse,

hindi niya pwedeng iwasan yan.

Ano? The lines are

drawn, diba? Yun yung

problem.

Actually, Ronald, maybe the lines are not drawn

enough and that's why we have to take a

strong stance. I think China is not realizing

we mean business here.

That we are going to stand our ground and we're

willing to risk it because

hindi na tayo papayag na eche porayang tayo

and we have a leverage because the ETCA sites,

we can give the Americans,

even more access close to Taiwan.

Kaya sabi nga nung isang critic

ng presidente, si Maharlika,

anong tawag niya kay Bongbong?

Kalo ko si Malu.

Kuting. Diba? Ang tawag niya, kuting.

Diba? Ibig sabihin, harmless.

Diba? Kailangan magpakita siya ng ngipin.

Sa tulad ni Speaker.

Diba? Last week, magpakita ng ngipin.

Diba? Ipaglalabang ko.

Baka yun na yung ngipin niya.

Yung mga numbers.

Ibig sabihin sa kanyang ngipin.

Pero, ibig ko lang sabihin,

hindi siya,

hindi tayo nakikipag-gera.

Very minimal yung ating efforts.

A small supply ship

to supply BRP

Sierra Madre

kinakalawang, nabubulok

na barko

na naka-beach sa isang shoal.

Diba?

So, baka ang kalala ng China,

kaya nilang tanggalan ng oxygen

para tayo na mismo

ang kusang matras.

Baka yan yung sinasabi ni Lee Hsien Loong na,

kayo ba ay talagang pumapasok na sa gera?

This is not war.

This is very basic,

but at the same time, very fundamental.

Ayaw nating ipakita sa ating mamamayan

na yung ating mga sundalo doon,

na hindi natin mapakain.

Na hindi natin masuplayan.

Noong lumalampas yung mga proposal,

alimbawa, may mga politiko nagmamagaling.

Pinropose na magtayo tayo

ng permanent structures

with the help of the Americans.

Anong sinasabi ng Coast Guard?

Ayaw namin yan.

Hindi kailangan yan.

Noong may nag-propose,

na again, mga politiko na nagmamagaling,

magpasama tayo

sa mga allies natin

para ihatid yung supply ship

sa BRPCR.

Anong sabi ng Coast Guard?

Hindi namin kaya gawin yan.

Kaya namin gawin ito on our own.

Ganoon ang tamang posisyon.

Of course, Ronald,

our allies can be just over the horizon,

just in case lang may

escalate, yung tinatag na

escalation domination. Of course, mas malakas

ang China sa atin kung mag-escalate.

That's why his allies should be there. Pero just over the horizon.

The fight should still be by us.

And ako for me,

ang China ang nagdadrama dito.

This is just a tactical operational issue.

It's not a big strategic issue.

Pwede tayo bumawi through strategic decision.

Of course, you know,

our stance is very nuanced on ETCA.

It should not undermine our sovereignty, etc.

But I think we should be brutal

in a sense that if China threatens us,

Aba! Gusto niyan? O sige!

All-in na kami sa Japan and America

sa Taiwan. O lagot kayo sa amin sa...

Bawi kami sa inyo sa Taiwan. Lagot kayo.

I think Taiwan is even more important

to China if you think about it.

And I was talking about to former

Admiral Ong. He was saying

Taiwan is also important to us because

kung sasakupin ang China ng Taiwan,

ang aming bahay natin isang higanteng isla.

Taiwan is a big island

compared dun sa mga malilitan ito

na gawain sa West Philippines. So,

that's the reason why I was

asking you, Ronald, on the exit ramp.

Because I was thinking, maybe he can

pull off a Molotov-Ribbentrop

pact with one side

and then focus on the other side.

But what you're saying na Molotov cocktail

na yung Molotov-Ribbentrop option.

So this is it talaga.

Well, kung ito ay isang

simpleng labanan na

ang kalaban mo ay pwedeng kausapin,

pwedeng kausapin,

oh! Truce muna tayo!

Diba? Dahil meron tayong

mas malaking kalaban.

Eh paano kung yung kausap mo hindi gano'n?

Diba? Paano yung

kausap mo, Tridor? Paano kung

yung kausap mo, supportado

ng iyong main front?

Hindi ko sinasabi na sila ay

mga...

Wala tayong sinasabi gano'n, Ronald.

Hindi ko sinasabi na sila ay

bayerang isang super power, ha?

Wala ko sinasabi. Pero kung sakaling

may gano'ng possibility,

paano ka makiipag-akuan?

Paano man i-de-diffuse yan?

Tapusin mo na ang laban. Huwag mo na i-diffuse.

Diba? Kung hindi,

mas delikado ka.

Mas delikado ka. Eh dito

sa West Philippine Sea, hindi naman tayo pwedeng

umatras eh. Diba?

Dahil ang ginagawa lang naman natin,

sinusupla yan. Yung isang

bulok na barko natin,

no, ng pagkain.

Diba? Yun ang naman ang atin

nilalaman. Mga damer. Sa looban doon ng

exclusive economic zone natin and

Ayungin Shoal is not a territory

that can even be claimed.

Dapat walang paking Chinese.

Exactly.

Hindi tayo pwedeng umatras dyan.

Diba? Hindi tayo nakiipag-gera.

Isang maliit na

supply ship, no, na

binobomba ng water cannon.

Muntik na lumabog. Sa liit.

Anong laman nun?

May laman ba yung mga quants? Stinger missiles?

May laman ba yun ng mga

supersonic missile?

Mayroon ba sa ilalim nun na

nuclear submarine na nakatago?

Diba? Very basic e.

Pag dyan umatras tayo,

baka yan ang ika-collapse ng Marcos

government. Lalo yung iisipin

ng mga Pilipino. No?

Pagkain, gamot lang yung dala natin,

di pa natin magawa.

Ronald, I mean, for me,

just quick on this. I mean,

I think the Chinese are testing our

will. They're testing how far we're

willing to stand our ground. So may pagka psychological

warfare also going on here. So I think that's

important to stand our ground

because that's how you're gonna get respect. By

these kinds of powers. Kaya nga si Digo,

respect yun unless you show strength. Kaya nga si Digo,

six years siya na ganyan-ganyan sa kanila, wala

siya na po. Kasi wala silang respect.

Wala, wala. For the weak. But I

have a question, Ronald.

Ako naman kasi, again,

I'm not forcing this Molotov-Ribbentrop

angle thing. But I'm just saying,

I guess

ng tao. Iman lang kayo sa history,

you know what I'm trying.

I'm not implying anything. I'm just saying. Diba?

I mean, alangan

on, you know, I mean,

going back to this. Don't you think there's

a room for Marcos to come out and say,

okay, I think you guys have been

underestimating me. Let me make it clear.

Ewan ko kayo digong. Pero yung

iba dyan na medyo okay pa. Pwede na

kausapin. I think you underestimated me

and let me make it clear to you, you

will pay a cost if you continue to do this.

Can't he come down with a hammer finally?

Na biglang, hindi na siya

Ant-Man, Thor na siya.

Kaganaan diba? Kasi Ant-Man,

eh. Mag-Thor na siya.

Mag-Thor na siya. Yan. Oo. Tama.

Tama. We should

hold our ground. Diba?

We should hold our ground. Lalo na

dito sa napaka-fundamental na usapin

ng BRP Sierra Madre.

We should hold our ground.

Pero at the same time,

while holding

our ground, dapat

huwag tayong magkaroon ng delusion

na yung isang front

will just fade

away. Or pwede pa

bang bigyan ng hallmark

greeting card na sinasabi

na

friends to all, enemy to none.

In the real world,

lalo na itong mga

psychopath at saka sociopath

na kaharap mo,

hindi ko sinasabi na sila yun.

Sinasabi ko lang, ito yung kaharap mo,

hindi naman tayo yan.

Huwag kang tumalikod

sa kanila. Huwag kang tatalikod.

Halimbawa kami, pag nasa high school,

mag-grumble kami. Tapos yung

karambol namin,

marami. Anong una namin

hinahanap? Pader.

Pader. Kahit mas marami

yung sumusuntok sa'yo,

pag nagkamali ng suntok, bali yung kamay noon

dahil pader yung tatamahan.

Pag sumipa sila, maling sipa,

bali yung kanilang mga paa.

So, naghahanap ka ng pader.

Yun yung dapat

hanapin ng presidente. Ano ba yung

pader na itong

isang front at itong isang major front,

ay pwede natin harapin

nang walang sasaksak

sa likod.

Ikaw siguro, hindi ka pa na-parambol.

Pag napa-parambol kami, pader ka agad ang hap.

Parang walang sasaksak sa'yo sa likod.

Di ba? Hindi ka pa hindi saksakin sa likod.

Hindi ako nag-rarambol kasi

nag-pupong daw. Tapos yung kalaban mo,

halimbawa, umiwas ka.

Umiwas mo yung ulo mo. Pag suntok,

naku, sa pader tatama. Bali.

Bali yung kamay.

Makikita natin yung topic.

Makikita naman ang makikita natin.

Sabi niya, kabardagulan naman si Ronald na ito.

Okay, ito. Towards the end na tayo ng episode na ito.

Let me just put it this way, Ronald.

As you see, the difference between you and me is

I think your argument is, you have to have killer instinct.

Go for gold.

This is it. There's no turning back.

Ako ang argument ko is,

I agree with that in principle,

but I'm still worried na may point of

I'm like, sigurado ka ba?

May pag-alisya yung loo, di ba? Sigurado ka ba?

Kasi, I'll tell you one thing, Ronald.

May mga kausap tayo na people.

Kunyari, mga pensyonado ng military.

May kausap tayo ng mga ordinaryong tao.

Dito sa Baguio pa ito.

Sa Baguio pa ito.

So, Baguio.

Solid north. Ilocano kami, di ba?

But you would hear like,

Richard, kamusta naman si BBM? Bakit ganun?

Ang taas ng presyo ng bilihin.

Yung pensyon namin baka babaw.

You get what I'm saying? And then suddenly I was thinking like,

Hmm, parang medyo vulnerable

yata si BBM. I mean,

Solid north. Ang dami naiinis

sa presyo ng bilihin,

sa pension reform issue,

and then maharli ka fund.

Di pa lumalabas yung mga potential

ekeg dyan. So, vulnerable.

Big R.

Yan yung third front

na hindi natin napag-uusapan.

Parang pinag-uusapan nating front,

ito, political.

Dito, geopolitical.

Pero merong isang front

na hindi natin

napag-uusapan na kung magkalat sa dyan,

tatamaan yung dalawang front.

I agree with you.

Pero that is a different matter.

Hindi ka pa rin pwedeng

umatrust sa dalawang front na ito.

Dahil yung options mo

are very limited. Di ba?

Yun yung problema mo.

You didn't make

these choices.

These choices ay inabutan mo.

Inabutan mo

at hindi mo pwedeng takasan.

So, I agree with you.

Yung third front ay napakahalaga

because it will affect

the two fronts na sinasabi natin.

Pero sinasabi nila,

medyo nakakahinay na na.

Bumaba ang presyo

ng bilihin. Inflation 4.9.

It's not that simple.

Yung peso lumakas

against the dollar.

It's not that simple.

Tuloy na yung

IRR na mahali ka.

Again, it's not that simple.

Kailangan mo head-on

yung mga problema na yan.

Also, go for the jugular.

Kung sinasabi ko kanina,

go for the jugular dito sa mga kalaban mo

itong isang

second front. Dapat

sa mga problema ng bansa,

tumbukin mo rin. Kung hindi, hihina ka.

Saka yun nga Ronald.

If he gets the economy issue wrong

because God forbid, there could be

a big war in the Middle East. Tataas na naman

yung magreklamo ng presyo.

So, hair-worn.

So, bug-bug na naman yung mga kababayan natin.

Ayaw na nga middle-class, nagreklamo na kami.

Especially nga kami mga Itokano.

Magreklamo kami sa presyo.

Because if something goes wrong

big time, sa Muharlic Fund,

something goes wrong again sa economy,

nagsaslowdown ng economy overall,

yung mga never-Marcos

na opposition na liberal and progressive

ay pwede pumasok sa eksena.

Because as I said, katulad na sinabi natin,

one reason why BBM can confidently

have this two-front war is suddenly

one front is quiet.

It's all quiet on the western front.

May pagkakaroon.

So, you can take on the eastern front.

But something can come out here.

So, what you were saying,

you're going for jugular. I'm going for micromanaging

while doing the jugular.

Uy, ayusin natin yun habang I'm going

for the gold here.

Kaya nga mahirap. Kaya nga hindi enviable

yung position ng BBM.

Kaya nga talaga maging presidente in short.

President. I don't know.

Look at the lessons. Ako naman, ito lang

yung proposal ko based on limited

options. Based on

the imperfections of the present government.

Pero I agree, may third

front na hindi na pag-uusapan.

It's the economy, stupid.

Diba?

Yan ay kailangan harapin din head-on.

Kung hindi,

the two fronts, you will be weakened

pag kinaharap mo yan.

Diba? Yun yung point.

For now, wala akong nakikita

indications na yan ay inaayos.

Diba?

No, exactly.

So on that, I think we more or less

exhausted a lot of this. Let's just leave more for discussion.

Kasi I'm still organizing RRL

naman with Lel.

Lel will be happy to join.

Pero ako na, pag-aaralan mo yung mga rumble.

Yung mga style sa rumble.

Ano magagamit saan dito?

Ako kasi na-Korean massage na ako.

I don't know if you know, guys. When you're gonna

get a black belt in Taekwondo,

bubog-bogin ka ng sampung black belt

or something like that.

Hindi alam ni mami yan. Medyo purple yung likod natin

before. Kaya favorite yung purple.

Anyway, sana hindi makita ng nanay

natin yan. Thank you so much

ka R&R. I really appreciate it.

Because I think this was good, sharp

analysis. Kasi we're already looking at the next

3 to 6 months, if not 3 to 6 years.

And I think many people

are excited or happy.

Ganun tayo. Okay, let's be happy.

Ako hindi ako excited.

Hindi obvious.

Hindi obvious.

Ako ay very calm.

Very circumspect.

Very gentle.

Better go for jugular.

Better go for jugular.

Kaya ano problema sa'yo, Ronald?

Saka rumble, saka dero.

Puro rumble lang, jugular.

Ako nga purong micromanaging.

Best of the basics.

Kaya maganda yung kombinasyon ng

big R saka small R.

Pero may L na parating. May L na

parating soon. So

i-set up natin yan. Magandang usapan yan.

Kaya may historiador naman tayong

kasama na makulit. At mas controversial

pa minsan sa'yo, Ronald.

Pag si Leloy nagsalita, ayoko.

Parang i-delete ko itong part.

Grabe yung magsalita minsan.

Matapang.

Yung mga kaibigan natin sa extreme left,

parehas galit sa amin.

Ayun lang. Correct.

Pero maraming galit sa inyo kasi koops kayo.

Kopsara.

Ako. Ako.

Ako.

Maraming galit sa akin.

Maraming galit sa akin.

Thank you very much.

Grazie. Grazie. Grazie.

Grazie. Grazie.

I'll talk to you soon.

Sa mga nakiinig sa'yo, minsan kasi

naki-carry the weight.

Salo na kung may devil's advocate

nakaharap na big R.

Hindi lang devil's advocate.

Ang mga kulit to.

Ang mga kulit to.

I think that's what people appreciate about

this R&R setup is because

there's authenticity.

People can feel our emotions.

Hindi lang tayong nagpapa-cute,

nagpapa-English lang, magaling.

Hindi, magaling naman talaga.

Emotionally invested.

Invested kasi tayo.

Talagang upal talaga.

Magagagalit na naman sa atin ang mga tao.

Pero invested talaga tayo, Ronald.

We are emotionally invested.

Today's topic was also emotional.

Kasi yun nga eh.

This is Laila de Lima.

Nung nakita ko yung picture mo with Laila,

natuwan-tuwa yung mukha niya.

Di ba, Ronald?

Bumabalot ka sa'kin dahil ako daw

nakangiti habang si Laila umiiyak.

Pero masayang iyak.

Characteristically Ronald daw eh.

Nakangiti habang yung

kayakap ay umiiyak.

Ayan ako, Ronald.

Touch of cry ka. Touch of tears.

Touch of tears ka.

On that note, thank you very much.

God bless you, parang Ronald.

Salamat. Regards sa mother mo.

Sabihin mo, usensya na po.

Pakasilola rin.

Luwalabas yung aking inner child eh

pagkausap kita.

Nagiging bata ako eh.

Ikaw, GNC ka ako. Millennial na. Matandang.

But let's sum up.

I'm looking forward to the RRL

soon. I-update kita, Ronald. At saka i-update

natin yung mga followers. As soon as we clear

itong RRL, I'm sure yung dynamic

yung dalawa ni Lele will be also interesting.

In short, ako yung maging mabait talaga

tapos kayo yung dalawang magbanatan.

Wala ko lang dyan.

Mano'y mano.

Mano'y mano.

Mano'y mano.

Alright. On that note,

baka magalit mong italyano kung kasama.

On that note, thank you very much.

Ciao! Ciao!

Bello! Ciao bello!