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00:00.0
Given the context, the political context under which you were put in prison for more than six years,
00:13.0
hindi naman kaya nag-succeed na yung mga nagpakulong sa inyo,
00:16.6
given the fact na napakalunga kayo for close to seven years.
00:20.5
Wala kayo sa public eye, basically.
00:21.9
Pwede nilang isipin nyo, at talaga namang,
00:27.9
yun ang iniisip nila, victory nila sa kanila yun,
00:32.7
kasi naging limitado na yung aking exposure.
00:36.5
Yung pag-ano ko ng mga commentaries ko, yung aking mga advocacy,
00:42.0
naging limitado na dahil unang-una nga wala akong cellphone,
00:46.6
wala akong laptop, at hindi nga naman ako nakakaparticipate noon sa Senado.
00:53.8
Yung mga deliberations, and I could not even vote.
00:56.8
So in that sense, iisipin nila, nag-succeed na sila.
01:01.8
Dahil sayang, sayang yung panahon na yun na pwede ako maging useful
01:07.9
and could have really performed my mandate more fully and effectively.
01:15.0
Pero sa isang banda naman, yung pinaka-target naman talaga nila is yung gibain ako.
01:23.4
Yung pinaka-target nila is patahimikin ako.
01:26.8
Sa usapin na yan, malinaw na hindi sila nagtagumpay.
01:35.0
Kasi hindi pa rin nila ako napatahimik, at hinding-hindi nila ako mapapatahimik.
01:42.2
At hinding-hindi nila ako pwedeng basta-basta nilang gibain o pahinain ang loob.
01:49.9
So in that sense, they have not succeeded at all.
01:56.8
I didn't want them to succeed.
02:02.5
And I could not, and I cannot allow them to succeed.
02:07.5
Isa po sa mga very unfortunate things that were done to you, Senator Delima.
02:13.6
Ito, namonitor niya rin po, namonitor ng maraming tao ito.
02:16.9
Yung pambababoy sa inyo, yung pambabalahura sa House of Representatives.
02:22.0
Unfortunately, may ilang pang mga babaeng kongresista na mga sip-sip.
02:26.8
Nakaupong pangulo ng time na yun.
02:29.3
Lagi ko sinasabi sa programa na ito, pwede niyo i-YouTube, hanapin niyo yung videos na yun.
02:34.1
Nagtatawanan sila.
02:35.1
As in, pinagkakatawaan yung pagkababae niyo.
02:39.0
Anong tumatakbo sa otak niyo ngayon na nasa labas kayo?
02:43.3
On bail, at least.
02:45.3
And then these people were party to destroying your reputation,
02:49.6
or at least to paint you as someone guilty before the Court of Public Opinion under the previous administration.
02:56.8
Masakit pa rin hanggang ngayon.
02:58.6
It's really so revolting that they have to do that,
03:03.1
and go through that extent para magpapogi lang dun sa nakaupong presidente noon.
03:11.7
But I do hope they realize now what they did.
03:15.1
That it's such an unjust doing na lalo nang I was also a fellow lawmaker.
03:26.8
Ortesia, which they accorded to me.
03:30.4
Siniraan talaga nila, binalahura nila yung pagkatao ko.
03:33.7
And yes, until now, it's still very painful to me that we have these lawmakers
03:43.2
throwing away any kind of dignity just to put up a show,
03:56.8
in order to please a certain man.
04:01.2
And may hirap eh.
04:05.1
But I, while I still consider that very painful,
04:11.5
pinapatawad ko na naman sila.
04:13.9
Maybe under those circumstances,
04:16.8
they thought they were doing something that could further their own interests,
04:25.7
but not necessarily the interests of truth and justice.
04:32.1
And in fact, it was very much against the interests of truth and justice.
04:40.9
Okay, bayit nyo ha, napatawad nyo na.
04:43.4
Pero kasi pag napapanood namin yung video, ang hirap eh.
04:47.2
Anyway, how about yung mga colleagues nyo before sa Senate?
04:50.2
Diba, merong labing-aning yata na colleagues nyo sa Senado
04:53.6
who voted to oust you.
04:55.7
From the Justice Committee, as chairperson.
04:59.6
In yung kasagsagan ng kalakasan ng Duterte administration yun eh.
05:04.1
And perhaps what you said about the lawmakers of the House,
05:07.8
siguro ganun din yung mga nasa Senado na tayo na yan.
05:12.5
Ngayon iba nagpaparamdam, diba?
05:14.5
Nag-congratulate pa yata sa pag-release yung mga statements pa, diba?
05:18.3
I mean, pati ba yan, napatawad nyo na rin,
05:20.7
yung mga colleagues nyo mismo sa Senado.
05:23.5
They have their own reasons why they did that.
05:25.7
Of course, political, personal.
05:29.6
And again, they just really wanted to, I think,
05:33.1
just wanted to go by the time of what was happening there.
05:37.6
Kasi parang siguro at the time,
05:40.3
fashionable sa kanila na sumama sa mga paninira sa akin
05:46.7
at sumama sa pag-aapi nila.
05:50.6
So, they have their own reasons.
05:55.3
While I do think also that some of them may have been sympathetic to me
06:01.3
inside of them, but they had no choice.
06:06.0
But again, as I said, to go with the time.
06:09.5
Dahil that's the direction then of the political climate.
06:21.1
How about the likes of Atty. Harry Roque?
06:24.1
Diba marami siyang mga binitawan-salita against you.
06:27.2
Tapos, isa ron, yung sabi niya,
06:28.9
Happy anniversary on your first year of detention.
06:32.5
May you spend the rest of your life in jail.
06:35.3
I think, in terms of trying to get you to detention,
06:39.8
hindi naman kapantay nung mga senador lang at saka kongresista,
06:43.8
yung gilas o gigil nitong Harry Roque para sa pagpapakulong nyo.
06:48.3
I mean, ano naman ang attitude nyo regarding him?
06:52.1
It was very deplorable.
06:54.1
I don't think we can expect anything less from him.
07:00.4
Masyado siyang nagpakakaano.
07:03.1
Maski nga sa human rights community,
07:06.0
maraming na turn off sa kanya.
07:10.3
He's pretending to be fighting also for human rights causes,
07:17.1
but it turned out it's the opposite that he's been doing.
07:20.3
And then sa mga ginawa niya sa akin, again,
07:24.1
pagpangsisipsip lang, just to be within the graces of the former president,
07:30.9
he had to go to that extent.
07:34.7
And kahit na ganun, napatawad ko na rin siya kahit hindi nagbihini rin ng kapakatawaran.
07:45.5
Ang light ng feeling nyo ngayon, ha?
07:47.2
Sa ano to, Dilima?
07:47.9
Okay, how about naman si former Justice Secretary Vitaliano Aguirre?
07:54.1
Merong impressions na pinare-
07:56.6
Allegedly, pinare-sure daw niya yung witness to go against you.
08:02.9
Kasama ba yun sa mga listahan nung napatawad niya?
08:08.0
Lahat naman sila except for one.
08:11.6
Sino po yung isa?
08:20.0
My chief oppressor.
08:21.9
The former president.
08:23.2
Si former president.
08:24.0
Si former president.
08:24.0
Si former president.
08:24.1
Si former president.
08:24.1
Si president Rodrigo Duterte.
08:30.0
Siya ang hindi nyo mapapatawad.
08:34.2
The magnitude and the gravity of what he did to me.
08:41.8
Parallel yung persecution.
08:45.5
Dahil lang sa paghihiganti.
08:48.3
It's all about paghihiganti.
08:50.0
And then using the entire machinery.
08:55.8
Kumamit ng mga pusino-sino.
08:57.9
Kumamit ng mga testigo.
09:01.4
Ng mga peking mga testimonya.
09:03.8
Kumamit ng mga ibang mga tao.
09:06.7
Para lang mamasira ako.
09:11.0
And when I was simply doing my job.
09:16.9
And depriving me of more than six years of my prime life.
09:23.7
And rubbing me of the company of my family and friends.
09:37.3
And also of my mandate.
09:41.2
The full discharge of my mandate as then duly elected member of the Senate.
09:48.1
I simply cannot forgive him at this point.
09:56.0
But not at this point.
