RAMON ANG VS JOSH MOJICA - SAN MIGUEL CEO vs KANGKONG CHIPS CEO - Sino ang MAS WISE?
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How's it going mga kamatis, mga kaibigan? It's your boy Nico David
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and maganda ang pag-uusapan natin ngayon kasi it's about Ramon Ang and Joshua Mojica.
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At dapat huwag natin isipin yung pera-pera kung magkano pera mo.
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Ang kailangan natin maalala, ganong karaming tao matutulungan natin
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at kung paano gumaangang buhay ng mga taong makakasama natin.
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E yung pera, measurement yun para sa akin.
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Hindi yun ang measurement ng success in life.
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Ang success in life, measurement is, oh, ang saya mo kasi,
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ako, natulungan ko yung mga kaibigan niya, nagkatrabaho na mabuti.
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Pa-explain mo bakit yung ibang tao sinasabi na money doesn't buy happiness.
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Wala silang pera.
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Kaya sinasabi nila na hindi nabibili ng pera ang kasiyahan.
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Wala silang pera. They don't have any.
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Lahat na nagsasabi ng money doesn't buy happiness, they don't have any.
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Kasi unang-una hindi bumamapapalit.
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Magpapasaya ang buhay mo.
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Hindi ka masasaya kapag yung pamilya mo mag-inahawa ang buhay.
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Hindi ba masaya yun?
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Hindi ba masaya yun na kapag kailangan ng gamot ng isa sa kapamilya mo,
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nagpapagaling mo agad siya dahil may pera ka?
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So, si Sir Ramon Angpo, ang majority stockholder ng San Miguel Corporation,
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he is worth billions of dollars.
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Si Kang Kong Chips naman, si Boy Kang Kong Chips, CEO, extraordinaire.
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Sigurado naman, milyonary yan.
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With an M, siguro in pesos siguro.
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And aabot siguro in dollars.
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But then again, if you compare the two, kung sino yung mas mayaman sa kanila,
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si Ramon Ang yun.
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But si Ramon Ang doesn't value money as much as he does.
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What Ramon Ang values is his silbe sa mundo.
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His purpose in life.
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Kasi hindi mo naman talaga dadalin yung billion na yun.
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Pag namatay ka eh.
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Eh kaso nga lang, naiintindihan ko rin naman si Josh.
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In a way na kailangan mo talaga ng pera para mag-function ka sa mundo na to.
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But the thing is, if ang point mo naman lang talaga ay gusto mo lang pasayahin yung tao sa paligid mo.
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Kasi parang yun yung sinasabi ni Josh towards the interview na yo.
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Gusto kong umaman para kunyari may problema sa pamilya, kaya kong sagutin agad.
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I understand that.
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But then again, you have to be more patient.
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You have to be more practical.
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Hindi lahat ng tao magkakaroon ng Kangkong Chips Empire.
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Hindi lahat ng tao magkakaroon ng San Miguel Beer Corporation.
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Not everyone of us will have that.
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But, everyone of us can work hard.
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Everyone of us can save money.
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Everyone of us can prepare for rainy days.
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Yung mga tragedy sa buhay natin.
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We can prepare for that.
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And of course, everyone of us has the capability to make other people happy without the money.
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Sa akin ng mga fanboys ni Kangkong Chips eh, wala ka kasing pera.
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Siguro, I don't have as much as Josh.
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But, you know, happiness is really relative sa kalagayan ng buhay nyo.
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And what I want here, what I want you to understand is that kung hindi ka man naging milyonaryo, okay lang yun.
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Kasi parang yun na yung nagiging takbo ng social media ngayon eh.
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And coming from a billionaire, nasasabihin niya gano'n.
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The money, I don't care about it.
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And if pakikinggan nyo yung interview niya with Katon Ying, sasabihin niya dito mga kamatis mga kaibigan,
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that most of his money, ginagawa niya to improve the Philippines.
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Hindi para bumili ng fancy cars and all that jazz, mga kamatis mga kaibigan.
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And siguro, our discussion would go through their developmental stages in life.
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Kasi merong akong theory na gustong i-introduce sa inyo.
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But then again, pakinggan muna.
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Nating sila ulit.
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Hindi, lahat ng anak ko, gano'n ko pinalaki.
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Yung anak kong panganay si Paul, nung siya elementary, pinapadala ko yan sa talir ni Mr. Kawangko.
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Pinapasamahan ko yan sa mga mekaniko niya.
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Every summer, nandun siya.
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Dun siya sumasabay kumakain ng tanghalian.
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Ay lumaki na maayos.
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Hindi ko poproblemahin yun.
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Eh pare, kung pinalaki mo yung mga anak mo malalaking ulo,
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baka makipagsuntok ka sa security guard sakali yun.
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Pero pag pinalaki mo ng simpleng tao, ay pare, hahaba na buhay nun.
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Tayo nagyayabang tayo kasi para ipakita na posible.
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Hindi tayo nagyayabang para kaingitan yun.
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Kung tama yung mindset mo at itingnan mo kami,
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kaming mga nagpapakita ng magandang kotse,
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limbawa, inspiration siya.
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Ako dati, pag may mga bobomba sa akin na Ferrari,
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ah, magigigil ako.
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Bakit wala ako nun?
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Bakit sila may gano'n?
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Bakit ako wala diba?
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So, inspiration talaga siya.
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Fuel siya, drive siya.
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So, ganun mo dapat siya tingnan.
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Nagyayabang kami para patunayan namin na posible.
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At para magkaroon pa ng mas maraming kagaya namin.
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You know what? I understand, Josh.
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Kasi wala siyang Ramon ang sa buhay niya.
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What he has is yung mga materyosong mga tao
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na uunahin yung flex kesa ayusin yung brand nila
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dito sa social media.
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Or siguro yun talaga yung kalakarang dito sa social media
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because of the undertape phenomenon.
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But my point here, mga kamatis, mga kaibigan,
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is that si Ramon ang tinuturo niya sa mga anak niya
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is hindi maging materialistic.
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Yes, kaya ko kayong ibili ng Ferrari.
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At yung mga Ferrari na yan,
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pwede nyo ibomba yan sa harap ng mga kaibigan nyo.
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Pero that is not what I'm teaching you.
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I am teaching you the value of humility
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and be more empathetic sa kalagayan
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ng mga taong nasa baba nyo.
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Be one with them.
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Tignan nyo yung buhay nila
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so you can appreciate what you have in life.
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Si Josh kasi, of course, galing sa hirap.
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Of course, hindi naging madali yung buhay niya.
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So, binibase niya yung success niya
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through material means.
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And you know, that is a fairly simple way
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of understanding life.
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Ang idea kasi rito,
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kaya daw niya pini-flex yung mga yun,
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is to inspire people.
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Actually, it's kind of annoying in my opinion
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kasi parang you come off as insecure
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na kailangan mong i-flex yung sasakyan mo
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para ma-validate na successful ka.
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Si Ramon Ang, hindi niya kailangan mag-flex.
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You just know that he is Ramon Ang
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and he is worth $4 billion.
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He doesn't need to show Ferrari.
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Yung Ferrari yung lumalapit sa kanya,
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nakuha niya yung difference na yun.
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Kasi ito yung ano eh,
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alam niyo yung mga taong bumibili
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ng mamahaling cellphone
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para they look the part.
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Ganito si Josh actually,
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kaso ibang level lang.
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Kung nasa group siya ng mga millionaires,
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the real 1%, actually,
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they don't need to flex anything.
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Their achievements speaks for themselves.
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miski nasa taas na sila,
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they still value,
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the existence of the people beneath them.
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They try to help them.
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They try to be more empathetic to their situation
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in such a way na yung mismong mga anak niya
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tinuturuan na makasilimuha kayo sa mga tao.
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Ang point dito, mga kamadis, mga kaibigan,
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si Ramon Ang is teaching his children
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to be more empathetic to the people beneath him.
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I hope one day, itong si Josh
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finds a mentor much like Ramon Ang
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who would teach him values
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instead of being an asshole.
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You're a good kid.
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Pero, alam yun, siguro it's getting in your head
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yung CEO shit na to.
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siguro, try to go back to school.
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Importante kasi yun eh,
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yung values formation sa school.
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Yun yung ituturo sa'yo nun eh.
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Yes, you are successful sa paggawa
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ng kangkong, pero until when?
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Si Ramon Ang kasi
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is a mechanical engineer.
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A mechanical engineer na kukondisyon yun.
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Nabubuting tingin ninyo
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bilang isang mechanical engineer po.
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Tawagin natin bilang isang mekaniko.
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Eh pagka nasa solve natin yung mga sira,
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nare-restore natin yung mga lumang kotsing
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puro tulo at ayaw umandar,
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hindi nakakatuwa.
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At habang ginagawa ko yung mga yan,
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marami din akong mga helper na tinitrain
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para matuto itong mga ito.
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Hindi po yan ginagawa para kumita.
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Ginagawa yan para sa
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educational program ng mga bata.
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Ginagawa natin yung mga bata.
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Ito yung mga bata.
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Ito yung mga bata.
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For the satisfaction of being able to pick something.
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Wala akong masyadong belief sa sistema
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ng pag-aaral dito sa Pilipinas.
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experience ko sa journey on how
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a successful life.
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Nagaling sa eskwela.
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Ito seryoso to, ring talk lang.
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Wala talaga ako halos nagamit.
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self-earned knowledge.
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Yun ang mga nagamit ko.
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Kasi naniniwala ako na
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it could make you a living.
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Yung sarili mong pag-aaral.
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It will make you a fortune.
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It will make you a fortune.
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Doon talaga ako nag-focus.
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Tsaka hindi na din ako babalik sa college.
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Kasi ang focus ko ngayon,
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I will try my best
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to go hard on this business.
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Gagawin ko lahat. Aralin ko lahat.
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To have us a really successful business.
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So, mga kamadis, mga kaibigan,
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this would be the last part nito.
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Siguro mamaya po,
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magta-try ako mag-live
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para mas detalye.
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And yung mga psychological concepts din,
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doon ko na rin i-discuss.
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Pero let's talk about muna
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yung mechanical engineering
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or yung pagiging mekaniko
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ni Sir Ramon dito.
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Hindi niya sinabi ha.
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Hindi niya sinabi.
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Hindi niya sinabi na
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tawagin mo akong engineer.
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No, kinorect niya si Tunying,
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si Ka Tunying na sabi niya,
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call me a mechanic.
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Yung pagiging mechanical engineer,
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it is a very, very hard course.
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One of the hardest courses yan.
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Naalala ko nung college kami.
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Sinasabi ng mga kaibigan ko yan eh.
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So, mahirap yung course na yan.
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Pero sigurado naman,
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yung natutunan niya sa mechanical engineering,
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yes, na-apply niya,
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pero hindi niya nagamit lahat.
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Hindi niya sinabi.
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Walang kwenta kasi yung
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engineering school ko eh.
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Kasi hindi ko naman nagamit lahat yun eh.
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building an empire requires more than
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just your degree.
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It requires a lot of people,
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a lot of manpower,
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a lot of intelligence
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to build the San Miguel Beer Empire.
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hindi niya in-undermine.
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Hindi niya in-undermine.
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Hindi niya sinabi na
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walang kwenta kasi ng
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walang kwenta kasi ng degree ko eh.
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self-study lang ako.
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No, that's not it.
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Ang sinabi niya gano'n,
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yung pagka-mechanical niya
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is trying to build
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an education program
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and help other people
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how to fix things.
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So, and the ending,
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everybody around dun sa kanyang,
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benefits from his knowledge.
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Saying that the school system
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is bulo kasi hindi mo nagamit
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is undermining everyone.
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ng mga nag-i-skwela ngayon.
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Parang ginaslight mo yung buong
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Parang ginaslight mo yung buong industry.
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Parang ginaslight mo yung buong industry.
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Parang ginaslight mo yung buong industry.
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It doesn't compute na
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wala nang kwenta ang skwela.
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Maybe, doon sa sitwasyon mo,
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since nakadanggit ka ng
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Kangkong Chips Empire,
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pero not for everyone.
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Yung school na yun
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will always give you
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the pertinent knowledge
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and pertinent skills
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that would help you in life.
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Yung values na lang
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nang tututunin nyo sa GMRC,
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that's more than enough
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for you to be a better person.
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kung ayaw mo mag-aral,
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Ikaw yung mayaman.
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Kami yung sakto lang.
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ang akin lang din,
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walang kwenta yung school.
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hindi ko ginagamit
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yung engineering skills
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it is satisfying.
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is always satisfying.
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Understanding something
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is very satisfying.
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kasi I understood
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life a little bit better
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from hearing to perspective.
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later on tonight,
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let's talk about this,
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yung psychological perspective
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Pag-usapan natin yun
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Marami kong i-add.
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For now mga kamadis,
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I have to leave you.
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and Sir Ramon Ang
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maraming salamat po
