00:39.9
May mga developments na tayo sa International Criminal Court
00:43.5
Or not necessarily with the ICC itself
00:45.9
But at least efforts to make sure na papasok ng ICC
00:48.8
At magkakaroon ng masinsina na pagsusuri
00:53.6
Doon sa human rights record ng nakaraan na administration
00:57.6
And particularly, it looks like hindi lang si dating President Digong
01:02.7
Hindi lang si Senator West Philippine Si Bato de la Rosa
01:07.3
Mukhang ba't yung vice-presidente ay medyo dinadamay na dito sa mga ICC investigation na yan
01:13.5
Of course, not to mention
01:14.9
Simultaneously, there are also efforts by other people including folks in Malaysia
01:20.5
To push for also ICC investigation
01:23.1
Not against Tatay, but someone was close to Tatay
01:25.3
And someone that Tatay tried to
01:27.6
Give advice to in light of recent conflict in the Middle East
01:31.3
Of course, ito yung Prime Minister ng Israel, si Benjamin Netanyahu
01:34.1
So, nagpupush siyang mga number of lawyers from Southeast Asia
01:37.8
For ICC cases naman
01:41.5
Laban sa isa pang leader na kaibigan din ni Digong
01:45.1
Noong time na presidente siya at bumisita siya sa gitnang silangan
01:48.6
So, maraming nangyayari mga kamita
01:49.8
But what's interesting here is
01:52.4
Katulad nung pinost natin video kahapon
01:54.5
Katulad dun sa mga posts natin right and left
01:59.2
Ito na mga kamets
02:00.8
Ito, ito, katulad nung mga pinost natin over the past few days
02:04.3
Ito na, mukhang may openness or may push at the very least
02:08.7
Well, there's a push and then there's an openness to a resolution being passed sa Philippine Congress
02:14.0
Para talagang seryosoin na itong ICC investigation efforts
02:18.3
Katulad ng sinasabi naman natin parate
02:21.1
Kung wala naman kailangan itago
02:24.6
Kung wala naman ginawang masamang nakaroon na administration
02:27.4
Huwag silang magalala
02:29.1
Kasi itong mga ICC investigator na yan
02:31.1
Ay hindi mga bara-bara na investigator
02:32.9
Ito yung hindi mga kunyari lang
02:35.1
Gagawa magpa-plant ng evidence
02:36.9
Sasabihin nilang nananlaban
02:38.9
Hindi, mga ano yan
02:40.0
Mga legit international lawyers and investigators
02:43.0
Kung talagang walang nagawang mali
02:45.4
Ang mga nakarana na administration
02:46.9
Dapat wala silang ikakatakot
02:49.1
And after all, di ba?
02:50.7
Unitim naman ang nanalo in 2022 elections
02:53.2
Hindi naman yung tipong parang mga dilawan na nanalo
02:55.7
O mga pinklawan na nanalo
02:57.1
Hindi naman yung tipong parang mga dilawan na nanalo
02:57.2
Hindi naman mga nareretag ang nanalo
03:00.4
Ang nanalo naman ay isang Marcos Jr.
03:03.3
So ano naman ay i-worry nila
03:04.6
Just in case magkakaroon ng
03:05.9
Fair, thorough, comprehensive investigation
03:09.6
Dun sa mga allegations ng mass atrocities
03:12.3
Sa ilalim ng nakaraan na administration
03:14.8
Now, obviously, obviously
03:16.8
Things are interesting and things are complicated
03:19.7
Because may mga multiple layers
03:22.7
May multiple layers dito
03:27.2
May interplay ng multiple factors and games dito
03:29.4
Ng pag-usapan natin very shortly
03:31.0
Now, things are getting so heated
03:35.4
Medyo mainit-init ng laban
03:37.4
To a degree to which na bati si President Rodrigo Duterte
03:43.1
Former President Rodrigo Duterte
03:44.6
Who said last year na magre-retire na siya
03:48.0
Ilang beses niya sinabi nung presidente siya
03:49.7
Na alam niya, kaya natin niya sinasabi na
03:54.0
Di ba? Nagdi-drama siya na ganun parati
03:56.5
Ngayon, nagtatreaten na siya
03:58.6
Na magre-run na siya for Senate
04:00.7
Ako, eto na naman
04:01.5
Kung maalala niya last year
04:03.3
Ilang beses yung ginawa nila
04:04.5
Yung kalukuhan na ginawa nila noong 2016
04:06.5
Binabastos talaga yung mga institution natin
04:08.6
Yung tatakbo, tapos hindi tatakbo
04:10.9
Yung last year naman, tatakbo sa Vice President
04:13.0
Tapos hindi na tumakbong Vice President
04:14.7
Tapos tatakbong Senate
04:15.7
Tapos hindi tumakbong ng Senate
04:16.9
Yung mga ganyan, mga
04:19.3
Yung mga pang barangay politics level
04:22.1
Na yun, mga kababalagan
04:24.6
Yung ginawa nila last year
04:26.5
Let's see if si seryoso nila yun
04:28.5
But you can see that
04:29.4
The threat of running
04:31.4
The threat of coming out of supposed retirement
04:34.2
It's a reflection of something going on
04:36.6
On the ground, mga kamets
04:39.0
So pag-usapan natin yan
04:40.8
Let's go to a number of news
04:45.1
Now, si Vice President Sara Duterte
04:47.8
Ay nag-issue ng statement
04:50.4
Ukol dito sa ICC investigation
04:53.9
And potentially even herself
04:56.3
Because she is a member of the ICC
04:56.4
Because she is a member of the ICC
04:56.5
Being ensnared in a potential investigation
04:59.7
Pag-usapan naman natin
05:00.6
Yung paborito natin
05:08.6
Talagang the best yan
05:10.3
Ng senator na yan eh
05:11.7
Nasaan na nawala na naman itong
05:14.0
Nawala na yung pictures
05:18.6
Sir, nasaan ka na sir?
05:21.2
Bakit di lumalabas?
05:37.5
Nasaan yung picture ni Bato?
05:39.9
Yung article about Bato
05:41.6
Kailangan natin labas dito
05:42.9
Kasi kailangan natin pag-usapan
05:47.9
Bossing Bato na makakalusot siya dito
05:54.2
He's very confident daw na
06:01.6
Pag-usapan natin yan
06:03.0
Kapag nandyan yan
06:06.4
Wala tayong magagawa
06:28.4
So sa isang interview
06:34.1
Kung kailangan niya
06:35.5
Mag-cooperate dun sa ICC Probe
06:37.2
With the government
06:37.7
President Marco Jr.
06:39.3
Was even reluctant
06:40.4
About it earlier this year
06:43.7
Sabi ni President Marco Jr.
06:46.0
Wala tayong magkakaroon
06:50.9
Because of our sovereignty
06:54.5
The tone has changed
06:55.5
From the government
06:56.2
To discuss it very shortly
06:58.8
Bakit ako magko-cooperate
07:00.4
Bakit ako magbigay
07:02.5
Bakit ako magbigay
07:03.8
Ng counter affidavit
07:05.1
Kung ating gobyerno nga
07:07.5
Ayaw makipag-cooperate
07:09.4
That's now debatable
07:10.7
That's now very debatable
07:12.6
Why would I cooperate
07:13.3
Why would I give my deposition
07:15.2
Counter affidavit
07:16.3
If our government itself
07:17.3
Doesn't want to cooperate with them
07:18.4
Of course this is
07:21.1
Kapag nandyan yan
07:26.2
Kung naman nandyan yan
07:27.0
Wala tayo mang gawa
07:29.1
I am very confident naman
07:30.3
Na malulusutan ko yan
07:35.6
If the probe is there
07:37.9
If the probe pushes through
07:41.5
I am very confident
07:42.3
I will get through it
07:44.2
I were part of it
07:45.7
Ayosin niyo naman yung
07:46.8
Translation sa English
07:49.5
Translation tuloy
07:53.3
Sen. Bato de la Rosa
07:54.5
Bago siya naging senador
07:55.3
Bago siya naging senador
07:55.6
Bago siya naging senador
07:56.0
Bago siya naging senador
07:56.2
Bago siya nagsakay sa ako
07:57.8
Dun sa laro ng Philippines
07:60.0
Siya po yung PNP chief
08:02.6
Siya yung nag-oversee
08:07.8
The accusations is that
08:09.5
If not tens of thousands
08:11.3
Of ordinary Filipinas
08:12.7
Mostly poor Filipinas
08:14.2
Hundreds of children
08:15.6
May have been victims
08:16.9
Of extrajudicial killing
08:19.9
Nag-express ng concern
08:28.9
Very strong statement
08:31.0
This is a statement
08:40.0
Basahin po natin ito
08:47.8
Bakit siya is na dito?
08:48.8
In light of the sudden
08:50.6
Unannounced joint meetings
08:52.7
In the House of Representatives
08:54.7
International Criminal Court
08:55.9
Jurisdiction over our country
08:57.8
I respectfully remind
08:59.1
Our honorable lawmakers
09:00.4
Of the very words
09:01.4
That our President
09:03.6
Ferdinand Marcos Jr.
09:04.8
Rated less than half a year ago
09:07.7
Conducted by the ICC
09:08.8
Would be an intrusion
09:09.7
Into our internal matters
09:11.9
And a threat to our sovereignty
09:14.3
We are done talking with the ICC
09:15.8
Like what we have been saying
09:17.2
From the beginning
09:18.0
We will not cooperate with them
09:19.3
In any way, shape, or form
09:20.9
I think statement BBM
09:23.3
Medyo few months ago
09:24.8
And a lot has happened
09:26.2
Pag-usapan natin shortly
09:27.5
Given this clear standpoint
09:31.3
Kinote si Marcos Jr.
09:34.2
This is a quote from
09:35.3
The Office of the Vice President
09:36.9
Given this clear standpoint
09:38.8
Sino ba nagsusulat
09:43.5
Medyo ganda yun yun naman
09:44.6
Given this clear standpoint
09:46.2
Anong klaseng pagsusulat yan?
09:51.6
Okay, mamaya na tayo
09:56.5
We urge the House
09:57.6
To respect the position
09:59.2
Who is the chief architect
10:00.0
Of our foreign policy
10:01.0
The President has
10:02.0
Likewise affirmed
10:03.3
Is based on the fact
10:04.8
Sees to off jurisdiction
10:05.9
Over the Philippines
10:06.6
Upon the effectivity
10:07.8
Of our withdrawal
10:08.5
From the Rome Statute
10:10.9
To allow ICC prosecutors
10:12.9
To investigate alleged crimes
10:14.2
That are now under
10:14.9
The exclusive jurisdiction
10:16.3
Of our prosecutors
10:17.9
Is not only patently
10:20.5
So, unconstitutional
10:23.0
Belittles and degrades
10:24.2
Our legal institutions
10:37.6
Na mga dayuan lang
10:44.6
Sa ating sariling
10:47.2
Okay, interesting
10:49.9
Ang ginamit sa dula
10:56.1
There are a number of
10:57.3
Counter arguments
11:01.4
Huwag natin kalimutan
11:02.8
Yung pagsali natin
11:06.8
Through the Senate
11:07.7
Because the Senate
11:09.2
As a matter of treaty
11:10.0
So, this was a treaty
11:13.9
Ang Supreme Court
11:14.9
There was a petition
11:15.4
To the Supreme Court
11:16.2
To affirm the fact
11:17.7
That when it comes
11:19.5
The International Criminal Court
11:20.6
This is not just solely
11:25.4
This is something
11:26.3
That the legislature
11:30.4
So, yung sasabihin
11:32.3
Or foreign policy
11:33.8
That pagdating sa treaties
11:35.6
Like the Rome Statute
11:37.2
To the legislature
11:37.8
This is number one
11:40.1
Sinabi rin ng ICC
11:42.7
At nagsasabihin sa'yo
11:47.0
Or international law experts
11:55.9
Nakasama ka sa Rome Statute
11:57.6
Pasok sa kanilang jurisdiction
12:00.9
Even if you're not
12:02.8
You can still face
12:05.6
If it is determined
12:06.7
Based on evidence
12:07.7
And proper investigation
12:13.6
International humanitarian law
12:14.8
So, pinag-usapan natin yan
12:16.2
Yung issue ng jurisdiction
12:19.3
Yung counter-arguments
12:20.5
Of the administration
12:21.4
At least earlier this year
12:25.6
This is very very important
12:27.2
This is very very important
12:31.1
Sa ating mga ho-human
12:33.0
Yes, there's the principle
12:34.9
Of complementarity
12:36.7
Hindi pwedeng pumasok
12:38.3
Or mga international
12:45.8
It is established
12:46.9
That the local courts
12:47.8
Or local judicial institutions
12:49.3
Are not doing their job
12:50.8
If the accusation is
12:51.9
There have been thousands
12:52.6
If not tens of thousands
12:55.1
You have how many?
12:56.7
Mabibilang mo sa kamay mo
12:58.3
Yung mga conviction cases
12:59.4
That there's a huge
13:00.4
Huge question there
13:02.1
Are the judicial institutions
13:05.2
Or are they up to the task?
13:07.3
So under the principle
13:08.0
Of complementarity
13:09.9
Ang international community
13:11.0
Or international criminal court
13:14.6
After how many years
13:16.3
Accusation of EJK
13:21.3
The number of convictions
13:28.6
Of human rights violations
13:30.0
Or mass atrocities
13:34.9
Kung wala naman may itago
13:36.2
Kung wala naman nangyari
13:38.6
Maging concerned dito
13:40.5
There's another added element
13:42.2
That we have to talk about
13:43.1
And that's very interesting
13:47.0
The administration
13:57.0
Speaker of the house
14:01.1
Yung speaker of the house
14:11.9
Picture ni Batu dyan
14:14.1
So basahin natin ito ha
14:16.2
There is a movement
14:17.7
In the house of representatives
14:19.0
To urge the government
14:29.4
That the house of representative
14:32.8
Marcos administration
14:38.0
Under the former president
14:40.0
Let's talk about this
14:43.1
This is an issue of
14:47.2
There are a number
14:51.6
Who are pushing for this
14:52.5
Because of the very
14:53.1
Arguments that we mentioned
14:54.4
All the five points
15:00.6
This is what we call
15:01.6
This is the sense
15:02.2
Of the house of representatives
15:03.5
There were succession
15:05.4
That are being filed
15:06.5
As a matter of course
15:07.3
We have to read out
15:09.2
And we have to act
15:10.6
And we have to be sensitive
15:22.7
Dun sa press conference
15:25.7
Parliamentary Forum
15:28.1
We have to look at it
15:31.0
And within the context
15:32.2
Of the current events
15:33.1
And that's where we leave it
15:34.3
We don't read much more
15:36.2
Than what other people do
15:38.5
They're still entitled
15:39.4
To their own views
15:40.3
And even their speculation
15:43.1
So the house top leader
15:45.4
Whatever the chamber's decision
15:46.6
Dun sa solution na ayan
15:47.7
It would be reflective
15:48.5
Of the sentiments
15:55.8
So basayan lang natin yun
15:57.9
I have something to say
15:59.6
Because there was
16:00.0
Another important thing
16:00.9
Nang sinabi ni Martin Romaldes
16:08.7
Are very close allies
16:12.7
May mga resolutions
16:16.7
So I'm just trying
16:17.7
To bring this out
16:28.9
Sorry for some reason
16:32.9
Advertisement na yan
16:36.7
Nagbabasa ako dito
16:45.4
While the Philippine
16:46.1
Guarding withdrew
16:46.7
From being a part
16:49.3
And the Supreme Court
16:50.0
And the Philippines
16:55.2
Crimes against humanity
16:56.3
Perpetuated under
17:02.2
Doon sa press conference
17:04.2
Yung sinasabi ni Harry
17:07.8
Given his blessing
17:08.7
Doon sa filing of
17:15.2
Must have thoughts
17:17.7
We respect his thoughts
17:19.4
But they're not accurate
17:20.3
So I'll just put it
17:21.2
That there's nothing
17:25.6
Huwag kang magma-retest
17:27.5
Huwag kang magma-retest
17:29.2
Huwag kang magma-retest
17:30.1
Now interestingly
17:31.5
Kalo na sinabi ko
17:34.6
Or factor number six
17:40.0
Department of Justice
17:45.9
Even Department of Justice
17:54.5
Talagang mga kamets
17:56.9
Talagang-talagang
18:04.4
So Department of Justice
18:08.8
So there is a push
18:10.4
In the House of Representatives
18:13.9
In the House of Representatives
18:25.3
Things could still change
18:27.2
So Department of Justice
18:34.1
Three weeks ago said
18:35.0
There's a need to look
18:36.1
Into the records of
18:36.8
House of Representatives
18:37.5
I mean renewed calls
18:40.6
Duterte administration
18:41.5
So ito yung sinabi niya na
18:42.6
Hindi lang second hand
18:43.9
Or turn hand sources
18:45.0
Kinakailangan humingi kami
18:46.3
Ng transmita sa Kongreso
18:47.8
Tungkol sa mga usapin
18:53.3
Kung anong nangyayari
18:56.6
So ito kasi mahalaga
19:05.3
Pinangailangan ito
19:09.4
Kailangan makita namin
19:18.5
Our ears are open
19:20.6
I mean we're open to
19:21.8
Ideas and suggestions
19:25.8
Yung position ng government
19:27.3
This was said by the
19:33.5
There's more and more push
19:37.5
To discuss the issue of ICC
19:39.1
Now I wanna add also
19:40.0
Something interesting
19:44.0
Nag press conference
19:46.9
Interesting ni dun sa
19:50.9
Pinag-usapan din nila
19:51.8
Yung kaalagan ng Pilipinas
19:55.9
International legal instruments
19:57.5
Like the United Nations Convention
20:00.6
Position natin dito
20:06.6
Make sure we leverage
20:07.5
International legal instruments
20:08.8
To obstinately oppose
20:11.5
ICC investigation
20:12.7
I don't think the two
20:16.2
No matter what kind of
20:19.0
Or discursive games
20:21.1
So ito yung sinasabi natin
20:23.5
There seems to be an opening
20:25.3
Suddenly right now
20:26.1
In the administration
20:28.1
Revisiting the idea
20:29.9
There's more push
20:31.6
And all of this of course
20:32.8
In one way or another
20:33.6
Cannot be separated
20:36.1
Cannot be separated
20:40.9
Mga nakikita natin
20:43.5
Because BBM still says
20:44.9
Nice things about Sarah
20:46.2
That they're still friends
20:47.6
And he tries to still
20:48.7
Project this above
20:49.5
The fray kind of image
20:51.8
That things are already moving
20:54.0
In the legislature
20:55.2
On multiple fronts
20:56.9
Kaya nga si Digong
20:58.2
Nag-threaten na siya
21:00.4
Pwede siyang tumakbo
21:02.2
And in fact recently
21:03.6
I think yung mga supporters
21:07.8
Kamusta kayo dyan
21:13.6
Number one si Digong
21:21.5
Si Sir Tulfo yan ha
21:25.1
Is openly saying na
21:26.7
Umayas ayos kayo dyan
21:28.6
This is not only about
21:30.3
This could potentially
21:31.1
Go towards even impeachment
21:32.4
Of the current vice president
21:34.8
The danger to his daughter
21:36.3
Being a protective father
21:38.7
The broader shifts
21:40.2
Dun sa political landscape
21:43.5
Pwede na ako sumali
21:46.9
I'll throw my hat
21:48.4
Or whatever is left of his hat
21:54.8
Eto yung sinabi ni Digong
22:00.6
Yung pinaka number one
22:02.2
Media sa Pilipinas
22:08.0
Or attempts to impeach
22:11.8
I'll return to politics
22:13.9
I will be forced to
22:16.4
Nasa politika naman siya eh
22:20.9
Or I will run for
22:25.0
Tatapong Vice President
22:26.3
Matagal pa po yan sir
22:28.3
2028 elections pa yan
22:31.5
Diba medyo matagal na yan
22:35.2
Look you don't have
22:35.9
You don't have a headache as of now
22:37.4
I'll be forced to come out of retirement
22:39.0
So medyo nagtatreten na siya
22:41.2
And he's already looking at
22:45.1
We don't want her to be impeached
22:46.2
Referring to Sara Duterte
22:47.3
She does not deserve
22:51.2
There's a recognition of this threat coming out
22:53.1
So don't worry mga kamay
22:54.0
Lahat yan pag-usapan natin
22:55.2
Dun sa mga upcoming
23:05.1
Pag-usapan natin yan
23:06.2
So what I tried to do today
23:07.5
Was just to give you an overview
23:09.0
Of the evolving landscape here
23:10.7
And how important
23:12.2
These developments are
23:14.3
In terms of determining
23:15.2
Not only the course of
23:16.4
Justice in the Philippines
23:17.8
But also potentially
23:22.5
Dynamics dito sa Philippines
23:25.2
At saka yung mga alignments
23:27.7
Let me just end on this note
23:31.8
There are also accusations
23:33.9
Not naman double standard
23:35.7
But that ICC is not moving
23:37.4
With the same speed
23:45.8
Warrant of arrest
23:49.4
Into the conflict
23:55.1
Nag-release siya ng
23:56.2
Ng warrants of arrest
24:01.9
So some of the top leaders
24:04.3
And that raised some eyebrows
24:07.6
There was no basis
24:09.5
Because of the speed
24:10.6
Because of the speed
24:11.5
And some are saying
24:13.5
If you look at the situation
24:18.0
If you look at the situation
24:18.7
Dun sa ibang parte ng mundo
24:22.4
Tens of thousands
24:26.0
Of the Philippines
24:27.7
Or as some put it
24:32.9
In Gaza right now
24:33.9
So there was actually
24:35.6
Malaysian lawyers
24:39.8
Against the current leader
24:41.3
Because of what's happening
24:43.7
What's gonna happen
24:45.1
Whether what's happening
24:46.3
In the Middle East
24:46.8
Or what's happening
24:47.3
In the Philippines
24:51.2
Si Attorney Carranza
24:52.3
They're moving too slow
24:54.1
Pero dun sa Europe
24:55.9
Ang bilis nila gumalaw
25:01.2
For the investigation
25:03.4
Because of the horrible
25:04.7
That Russia has done
25:05.8
Since invading that country
25:12.7
If you're talking about
25:13.4
Tens of thousands
25:14.9
In the Philippines
25:15.3
If you're talking about
25:16.3
More than hundred children
25:20.6
So the question is
25:26.7
We're talking about
25:27.3
Completely different circumstances here
25:29.1
But critics would say
25:30.2
What completely different circumstances
25:32.1
We're still talking about
25:33.6
So on and so forth
25:34.3
So this is gonna be a debate
25:35.3
And let's see how this is gonna go on
25:37.0
And let's see also how ICC
25:38.5
Respond to some of these
25:40.7
And how ICC is gonna
25:41.8
Discuss these issues
25:50.2
Or whether there'll be
25:50.6
Attempts to patch things up
25:52.1
Before the end of the year
25:55.7
Thank you very much
25:57.6
Na dumadami na yung
25:58.6
Trolls natin dito
26:03.4
See I'm trying to be fair
26:04.5
I'm looking at the
26:05.1
Broader landscape
26:05.9
I'm looking at even
26:06.8
Criticisms of ICC
26:08.9
And at the same time
26:11.4
We're also looking at
26:12.4
The evolving position
26:13.3
Of the government
26:18.5
And then of course
26:22.2
Because more and more
26:25.0
PDP Laban are leaving
26:28.7
What will be left
26:30.7
To run for office
26:33.6
I never underestimated
26:37.0
Visayas-Mindana vote
26:40.6
A slot in the Senate
26:43.2
Too hard for Digong
26:44.4
Kasi higa lang siya
26:45.7
Wala siyang gagawin
26:46.3
May lek yan siguro
26:48.1
Whether he'll top it
26:53.1
Strong and powerful
26:54.5
But I still believe
26:55.5
He's popular enough
26:58.4
Really rock the boat
26:59.8
How things are gonna
27:00.3
Move on that front
27:01.8
Thank you very much
27:05.4
At nagmamahal sa atin
27:09.0
A little bit earlier
27:10.9
In the late afternoon
27:13.0
We're hoping to interview
27:14.0
Si Senator Laila de Lima
27:15.2
Also to get her views
27:17.6
I'll also try to interview
27:26.7
We're also looking forward
27:27.5
To launching dun sa
27:28.5
Isa pang new podcast natin
27:30.4
So we're hoping to
27:32.8
Of other podcasts
27:35.2
Kailangan ko na talagang
27:37.2
Sa West Philippines
27:45.1
Interesting discussion
27:46.3
That we're hoping to have
