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I'm so proud of our good friend Jet Tolentino
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Who we interviewed on our platforms, on my own podcast, among other platforms
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Several times, at saka yung kanyang mga plano
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Pagdating na bringing the Philippine cinema to the next level
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So congratulations, Asian Persuasions
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I suggest you guys go and check it
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Medyo maraming hugot
01:13.0
It's a good fusion of Philippine American culture, Philippine Asian culture
01:18.4
But at the end of the day, meron pa rin may Pinoy flavor
01:23.4
At dun sa mga ibang pet peeves natin, may mention din dyan
01:27.7
Go and check it out
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I was very glad about how it turned out
01:33.2
Nung mga medyo nervyoso tayo
01:34.6
I hope this turns out well
01:36.7
This is something big, this is something important
01:39.2
It's about putting the Philippines on the map
01:40.8
In the same way, mga ibang Asian American movies
01:47.3
Crazy Rich Asians
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They put a lot of Asian American on the map
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So we're hoping na this will be part of a bigger effort
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To put the Filipino American experience
01:58.2
And also the Filipino on the map
01:59.5
So congratulations again
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Dun sa kaibigan natin, Jett Tolentino
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Dun sa kanyang new movie
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Pag-usapan natin separately
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And sigura I'll give a proper review of that
02:11.4
We get some downer time
02:14.6
Now in the meantime
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Ito mga kameta na may mabilisan tayo ng mga developments dito sa ating politika
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Nako po, things have been intensifying over the past 24 hours or so
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So nag-share tayo
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Nang video ni Vice President Sara Duterte
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As of course you guys may know
02:31.9
It's not only Rodrigo Duterte
02:34.4
But Sara Duterte and actually two other senators
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Have been placed dun sa ICC probe document
02:41.2
So hindi lang si Rodrigo Duterte
02:42.6
Kasama din dyan si Sara Duterte
02:44.4
At if I'm not mistaken, not only Bato de la Rosa
02:47.2
Yan, shoutout naman dyan kay Bato
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At mukhang si Bongo rin yata kasama dyan dun
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So this is just quite something serious mga kameta
02:55.7
So if you're sorry
02:57.7
Sara Duterte, you're not only worrying right now
02:59.7
About what could potentially happen dun sa kanyang
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You know, the previous president
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But apparently she's also now on the list
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So mga kameta, pag-usapan natin yan
03:09.7
Before that, obviously nakita niyo kaapon yung video na pinost natin from Sara Duterte
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And there you could really see
03:17.7
Literally there's a change in tone
03:19.7
There's a change in cadence
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There's a change in level of confidence
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And pizazz and suave
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And some would say yabang and all of that
03:27.7
Nakita niyo, even the tone is very very important
03:30.7
And very very different from what we're used to
03:33.7
From this powerful or maybe increasingly once powerful family
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So just to show again yung mga hindi nakita nung video natin
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This went viral, half a million views right now almost
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Dyan sa Twitter feed natin
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And I just also shared dyan sa Instagram
03:50.7
For some reason, parang bumaba yung views natin sa Facebook
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I don't know what happened
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Just in the past week lang ha?
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Alam mo minsan suspicious talaga itong Facebook na to ha
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Because yung views po natin sa YouTube
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Views natin sa Twitter
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Lahat explode ngayon
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Sobrang taas nung views natin
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Thank God no, I mean
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I think over the past month naka million views na tayo sa YouTube
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Twitter, minsan one post lang naka half a million views na tayo
04:16.7
Instagram, I'm also starting to get the ball rolling
04:18.7
TikTok, minsan tsamba tsamba
04:22.7
Pero naka 100k views na rin tayo with the few posts that I made over the past few days
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So I'm trying to get back into TikTok also
04:28.7
And also try to work that out
04:30.7
Also shout out dyan sa ating cousin na si Anton
04:33.7
Helping me out now with making shorts and all
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Kasi kailangan ko talaga yan pagdating sa TikTok
04:37.7
Mga kamayeta talagang I'm spread thin
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Sobrang pagod ako
04:42.7
I think people don't realize how hard it is to organize people and bring them together
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Lalo mga Pilipino
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I'm very glad and very blessed na we have friends like Ronaldo, Lisandro
04:53.7
We have young generation of scholars who
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Who bothered to join us
04:57.7
But you know generally it's very hard to organize interviews and all
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Akala niyo yung interview lang mismo yung time na nilagay natin no guys
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Mahirap talaga mag-organize mismo
05:05.7
So much effort goes in
05:07.7
I have no staff, I have no production team
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So I do all of these things alone no
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So kitang-kita ninyo medyo overstretched na tayo
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So thank you so much again sa mga sumusuporta
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Yun lang, minsan yung Facebook ko biglang bumababa eh
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Kasi half a million views tayo few weeks ago
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Ang taas ng views natin
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Biglang this week bumaksak yung views natin sa Facebook so I don't know what's going on there
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So I don't know what's going on there
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I don't know what's going on
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I don't know what's going on
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Misa suspicious yan
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Remember yung ilang times na na-shut down yung mga live natin or something nung last year
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Sobrang frustrating yan
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We were going from millions of views a day or two no
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To suddenly barely a thousand viewers a day
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So that was a difficult transition pero maraming salamat sa Diyos
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Medyo nag-diversify na tayo
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So medyo malaki yung following natin ngayon in different places
05:47.7
And malaki yung engagement natin on different platforms
05:50.7
Now this is not because gusto natin magpa-cute or anything like that
05:53.7
This is not because gusto natin magpa-cute or anything like that
05:54.7
No, this is about getting the message out
05:56.7
Dahil ang daming basura out there, ang daming propaganda out there, ang daming nonsense out there
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So we have to push back against that
06:02.7
And we have to bring an informed discussion to the Filipino people
06:05.7
And I think they really deserve it
06:07.7
And sobrang tuwantuwa ako na we have the privilege of having many friends na maraming kalaman
06:13.7
Maraming kanilang kalaman sa ating politika at saka mga iba-ibang adhikayin
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So yun ang mga pinag-usapan natin sa mga ating mga platforms
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Top 200 na tayo sa Pilipinas
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Target po natin before the end of this year
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God willing we go to the top 100 podcasts in the Philippines
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I think yun yung ranking eh
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Nakalagay lang Philippines eh
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So probably this is all podcasts in the Philippines
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So being top 100 in the podcasts in the Philippines is a big deal for us
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Kasi ang kalaban natin mga big celebrities, media, or journalists working with media outlets
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Again, this is just tayo-tayo lang yan
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So thank you so much sa lahat ng mga sumusuporto natin
06:51.7
Like 50, 60 countries na naging ginagamit natin sa Philippines
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I really, really appreciate it
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Yung mga Barbados, Tonga, Jersey
06:59.7
May bansa pala na Jersey, I didn't know that
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It's British territory yata
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So, so many people are listening to us
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Shoutout dyan sa mga kaibigan natin from Saudi Arabia
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Many, many people joining us from all around the world
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Thank you very much for that
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Now, let's go back to this
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Ito po yung pinakita ko the other day
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Sorry ah, medyo nag-ugot lang ako kasi
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Misang weird talaga tong Facebook eh
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Hindi siya reasonable eh
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Parang minsan, agad doon, minsan, yun eh...
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Hindi, I mean, I'm not doing something too different
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If anything, nagiging more active tayo
07:26.7
And we're sharing more even on Facebook
07:27.7
So, I don't know what's going on there
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Kaya nang humuska dyan
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Kung may shadow ban or something nangyari sa atin
07:35.7
But thankfully, we have many platforms
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So that's the point
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Diversify ako, it was not easy
07:40.7
Precisely to make sure na pag may shadow ban
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I'm not saying that's not happening
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But I'm saying just in case
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Meron tayong backup plan
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Alright? Meron tayong backup plan
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So thank you so much sa lahat ng mga sumusuporto natin
07:51.7
Sa ibat-ibang platforms
07:54.7
Now, let's go back to this mga kameta
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Panoorin natin to
07:58.7
Masaya to, masaya to
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So, ito po yung video na
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Singshare natin the other day
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Being the chief architect of
08:12.7
The position of the president
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Being the chief architect of foreign policy
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So, yun po lahat ang dapat na position natin
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Pero, we will continue to reach out to the Department of Justice
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Regarding our position on this matter
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Ma'am, when you say na makipag-ugnayan tayo sa DOJ
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So, we will still push na huwag dapat mag
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Ito importante mga kameta yung makipag-ugnayan sa DOJ
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Diba dapat independent yung mga investigations na yan
08:47.7
And then you're reading the administration?
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Hindi na makipag-ugnayan tayo sa DOJ
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So, we will still push na huwag dapat mag-imposisyon ng government
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Ang pakikipagtulungan sa ICC
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We will continue to reach out to the Department of Justice
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Regarding our position on this matter
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And we will lay down the legal basis of our position
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Yeah, but the problem dun sa legal basis argument is
09:16.7
We already had a number of
09:18.7
Conversations including with international humanitarian law experts
09:22.7
Like Professor Carranza, Dr. Carranza, Atty. Carranza
09:26.7
We also had a number of our own vlogs explaining
09:29.7
Why itong argument ng jurisdiction no longer holds
09:32.7
Clearly, there is determination by the International Criminal Court
09:36.7
That the Philippine courts have not been doing a sufficient job
09:39.7
To deal with tens of thousands of alleged extrajudicial killings
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So, just showing a few cases here and their supposed resolve
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Doesn't go anywhere close to establishing that the Philippine courts
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And the Philippine judicial institutions are
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Undertaking what they're supposed to undertake
09:52.7
Given the scale of extrajudicial killing allegations that are out there
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By the way, last night I was also reading yung book ni Patricia Evangelista
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Yung ating senior sa debate society dati sa UP
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Mang small world yan
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Kami LLO, Patricia, all of us we come from the same world
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Very emotional, very strong
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So, I really also suggest you guys read that book
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Based on the quote from Duterte
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Some need a killing or something like that, okay?
10:16.7
Some people need a killing
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Some people need a killing
10:18.7
So, hopefully we'll arrange also an interview with Patricia down the road
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But let me read the book
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Because I'm expected to do a review on it
10:28.7
For a number of international publications
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In the coming weeks
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So, I'll get back to that
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Kaya medyo last night medyo emotional tayo
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Kasi etong issue ng mga extrajudicial killings
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Again ha, again ha
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Ang dami ako nakikita mga nagsasabi
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Oh, salamat sa drug war ni Digong
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We feel more safe
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That's very important, we feel
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Kaling lang pala yan
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Because show me the evidence
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That there's a sustainable reduction talaga
10:51.7
Doon sa drug supply and overall criminality
10:54.7
How can you say crime is down
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When murder rates are up?
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I mean, when the worst kinds of crimes are up
10:59.7
How can you say crime is down?
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I mean, that's ridiculous
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Let me absolutely clear
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How can we say for sure na yung mga pinatay
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Tens of thousands including hundreds of children
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Paano mo alam na mga drug pusher mga yan?
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And paano mo alam talaga
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Na big time drug lord yung mga yan?
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And even if drug lord mga yan
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Or small time pusher mga yan
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To be just summarily killed
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The way they were killed?
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We don't even know what happened there
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Because it was under
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It was shrouded under very very questionable circumstances
11:33.7
So, yung mga elitista dyan
11:36.7
Na either gollible na napapauto
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Sa mga propaganda dyan
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Or mga nagfe-feeling safe bigla
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Kasi gusto nila i-justify yung kanilang kabubuan
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Sorry to say that
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Your feeling safe is not worth a single life
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A single innocent life
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And you tell me with a straight face
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That you're 100% sure
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Doon sa 10,000 or 20,000
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Or 6,000 even by government numbers na namatay
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And guilty by what?
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I mean, summarily killing is not allowed
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That's called extrajudicial killing
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At lahat yan ng laban
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And to say collateral damage lang yan
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And if that collateral damage is you or your people
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Then you're gonna say it's collateral damage?
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And wag kayo mag-feeling massa dyan
12:22.7
Kung nagte-Twitter, Twitter kayo
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So, obviously may pera kayo pang internet
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Pag mga English, etc
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So, yung mga nagfe-feeling dyan ng middle class, middle class dyan
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Umaayos kayo dyan
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Let's go back to this issue
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That's why I'm saying
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This is very very important mga kameta
12:36.7
Because the fate of our democracy
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Not only the credibility of the ICC
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Because the problem with the ICC is that
12:43.7
The bulk of the people that they prosecuted throughout the years
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Come from Sub-Saharan Africa
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I don't know, Liberia, Kenya, mga ganyan
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Arguably Serbians
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So, they are yet to really go after people successfully outside
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More or less the immediate surroundings of Europe
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So, in case if this pushes forward
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This tells you a thing or two about
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It can really go beyond
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Geopolitical parochialism
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And they also have to prove to us
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That wala silang institutional bias
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This is very important
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So, ICC's own credibility
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It's very very important for them to get this question right
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Came out with the warrant of arrest for Putin
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Just months after the war in Ukraine
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Now, people are asking
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A situation we're seeing right now
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More than a hundred children are being killed
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A lot of people are going to be killed
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Not too far from Europe
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What is ICC going to do about that?
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Is ICC going to investigate it?
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Because there are allegations of
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The case of the Philippines
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Ang tagal na to eh
13:57.7
Ang tagal na itong case ng Philippines eh
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This is also an ICC
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This is also up to ICC
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ICC also has to prove
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They got what it takes
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But you cannot also blame ICC kung binablock din sila ng mga ating authorities. Kaya very very important mga kameta to see what the Marcos administration is doing. Now in slight disagreement with my ka-R&R si Ronaldo, if you really look at the statement of Marcos Jr.
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Because you know what I do as a journalist, because I write eh. When you write, you go through the quotes one by one, one by one, one by one. You examine. And as a scholar also, I see textual analysis, I examine. Actually, Marcos Jr. is a little bit leaning to the other side. Kaya tignan niyo yung mukha ni Sarah when she's talking about this issue. She doesn't look like a very confident person. Right? She doesn't look like it. So with all due respect to some other people, I don't think Marcos was totally, you know, obfuscating.
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I think may medyo nag-lean shot.
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And this is what's interesting. Because maraming nagtanong, wait lang, hindi ba conflict of interest yan? Or hindi ba questionable yan? Na the vice president in the same administration will kausap yung DOJ about an investigation that's supposed to be impartial and independent?
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So interestingly in response to that, the DOJ actually came in with a strong response. At sabi nila, hindi kailangan na magsalita si Sarah about this issue, etc. Because they're also feeling the heat. Right?
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Because suddenly people are asking, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean that kakausapin nila Sarah itong DOJ? What's that supposed to mean? Alright?
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So sabi ng DOJ, hindi naman po kailangan mag-request dahil hindi naman po nagbagong stance ng DOJ, sabi ni Clavano.
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Anyway, but of course, the more important question here is, is it even appropriate to do that?
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Now, let's not forget that earlier, Marcos Jr. said it's understudy.
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Secretary Jesus Crisman Ramulia said it's under serious study. Right?
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So, and ito ha, very important yun ha. Ito yung sinabi ni Clavano, yung isang top official sa DOJ. Sabi niya, kagaya siguro nang sinabi ni Secretary Ramulia, pinapag-aralan lang po.
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Dahil may mga nagsalita galing sa kongresa, trabaho namin po na makinig sa ating co-equal branch of government.
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So it is true that the president is the ultimate architect of Philippine foreign policy.
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But it cannot completely ignore yung sinasabi ng legislature because our very membership in the ICC had to go through the Senate fire ratification process.
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So the legislature has to do something about this.
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At ito rin po yung sinabi.
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And I think dito po sa amin sa DOJ, sa ngayon, ito pa rin po yung stand namin na wala pong jurisdiction ng ICC.
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Although, of course, magiging bukas kami if ever meron po tayo nakikita ang pagbabago sa policy.
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So that's extremely important.
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This quote is very, very important from the DOJ official.
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So in short, hindi final ang lahat.
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Now, katulad ng argument ko earlier, mga kameta,
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I still doubt Marcos Jr. will go all-in sa ICC issue niyan.
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Because as I wrote in my article today,
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as I wrote in my article today sa Philippine Daily Inquirer,
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that will be a declaration of war on the Dutertes.
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And there will be almost a...
17:29.4
civil war, mini-civil war among them.
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Now, we can debate about who has the upper hand.
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Obviously, you can imagine that given the current circumstances,
17:37.2
parang sinking ship or sunk ship na in one side.
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But I won't underestimate the other side.
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I won't also underestimate Marcos Jr.'s cautious nature.
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So I don't think Marcos Jr. will move ahead right away with the ICC
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unless he's absolutely sure that they can take care of the fallout.
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Meaning he has been reassured by people around him na kami bahala.
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Ayusin na kami niyan.
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And also, of course, if my 100% support from outside,
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including our European, American, and Western partners.
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I'm just about to interview actually one of the big...
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one of the important key ambassadors to ask him also about this issue.
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So we'll have more discussions on that.
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Don't worry, I'll post on that.
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Also, check out yung sa YouTube po,
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yung clips or yung full copy na interview natin sa view from Manila sa One News TV 5.
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So you can check also interviews natin with the senior officials, ambassadors,
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undersecretaries, among others.
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And of course, some important senator also quite soon.
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So what I'm saying is, that would be declaration of war.
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But clearly, and clearly, and this is what I'm gonna say, mga kameta.
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This is what I'm gonna say, mga kameta.
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What we are seeing right now is the third act in a Shakespearean play
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as far as the Marcos Duterte dynamics is concerned.
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And let me explain very quickly because I'm gonna end on this point.
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I have to leave na.
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Naisin natin yan.
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Para pwede gawin ng shorts.
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Ito, ito mga kameta.
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Let me be absolutely clear.
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Naisin ko lang dito.
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Let me be absolutely clear.
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What we're seeing right now,
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is a kind of a Shakespearean play.
19:31.5
Marco Jr. won as a continuity candidate.
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Pero alam natin, the moment he won the top office,
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and emphatically based on the official tally,
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he began to sing to a different tune.
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Kitang-kita natin yan, mga kameta.
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First of all, and this was the first act,
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or act number one, diba?
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When he did not give Sara Duterte the defense secretary position,
19:54.9
and connected to that,
19:56.1
when he did not give the Speaker of the House,
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or rather, he did not facilitate the Speaker of the House position
20:02.4
going to Gloria Macapagalaroid.
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That was already act number one.
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The second act happened when nangyari that whole Tamba Los Los.
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Essentially, explosion.
20:12.5
Whereby you had Sara and Arroyo versus,
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essentially, the President's right-hand man in the Congress.
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And his many supporters right now,
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including the former allies of the former President.
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Now, the Tamba Los Los episode itself
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was an upshot of Marcos Jr.
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dun sa mga key legacies ni Digong.
20:30.8
Yung kanyang drug war,
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hindi kasing bara-bara.
20:33.5
Yung kanyang red-tagging,
20:35.4
hindi kasing all over the place,
20:38.0
And pangatlo, very importantly,
20:40.6
clearly, nag-recalibrate si Marcos Jr.
20:43.1
pagdating sa ating polisiya sa West Philippine Sea.
20:45.7
And clearly, he was distancing himself dun sa pro-China,
20:48.7
pro-Beijing policies ni Digong.
20:50.9
So that was act number two.
20:52.7
And then, Digong responded.
20:54.6
He went to China,
20:55.7
essentially a slap on the face of the President,
20:57.5
diplomatically speaking,
20:58.8
and then, over the coming months,
21:00.5
he began bashing the administration
21:02.6
and calling the Congress rotten
21:04.1
as act three came in,
21:06.1
which was the retaliation.
21:08.2
Yung Confidential Intelligence Fund.
21:09.7
So this is act three.
21:11.0
And let's see how this act three is gonna end
21:13.2
because it all goes down to the decision of Marcos Jr.
21:16.7
If he is gonna go and give the green light signal,
21:25.1
that's total declaration of war.
21:28.8
act three could have sub-acts
21:31.3
if Marcos Jr. believes this is not the time to do it,
21:34.3
or Marcos Jr. may feel that if he goes against Dutertes,
21:37.2
and then Dutertes fight back,
21:38.4
he could be squeezing between two sides
21:40.1
if the other side, the progressive and opposition,
21:42.0
also take on him at the same time
21:43.5
because, of course, the Marcoses have their own baggage.
21:46.5
So, there's also a lot of other dynamics to keep in mind.
21:50.0
Kaya dapat sa political analysis,
21:51.6
you're looking at many moving parts at the same time.
21:54.2
It has to be a multi-variable analysis,
21:57.1
multi-variant analysis.
21:58.3
Yun po yung dapat ginagawa natin.
21:59.8
So, yung mga nangyayari nang sasabi sa'yo,
22:01.6
ito mangyari dahil ito nangyari,
22:03.3
simplistic mag-isip mo nga yan.
22:04.6
They don't know basic political analysis, right,
22:08.5
or social analysis for that matter.
22:10.4
On that note, thank you very much mga kameta.
22:12.1
Let's continue this kind of conversation.
22:13.7
Marami pong nangyari, marami pong plot twists.
22:16.2
Actually, sub-plot twists.
22:18.0
Sabi ko nasa act three na tayo,
22:19.9
and may sub-plot twist potential is.
22:21.7
Let's see how it's gonna happen.
22:22.6
Now, the interesting thing is,
22:24.9
so there could be a spirit of holidays and all,
22:27.9
Maybe, temporarily, there could be another patch up.
22:30.4
But much will also depend on what Digong is gonna do next
22:33.0
because clearly, his side,
22:34.7
nage-hemorrhage yung kanyang side,
22:36.2
yung kanyang aliado,
22:37.1
they're all defecting to Martin Romaldes,
22:38.8
and boom, all of this,
22:40.8
the act three will also be determined
22:43.0
by the calculus vis-a-vis the 20, 25 midterm elections
22:47.1
which could be very, very definitive.
22:49.4
So, you cannot separate the ICC decision
22:51.6
from all of these other calculus
22:53.2
that is happening at the same time.
22:54.4
On that note, thank you very much.
22:57.4
And talk to you soon.
22:57.9
Talk to you soon.
