Eri neeman vs Seven Barreto - When Cooler heads prevail - A discussion on fair compenstaiton
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00:00.0
Going mga kamatis mga kaibigan, welcome back to another livestream
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Mabilis na kwentuhan lang po ito in relation po dyan kay Irene Niman at saka po kay Seven Barreto
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Kung saan nagkaroon sila ng very healthy exchange na maganda kasi ito eh
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Sa tingin ko it is something that this channel always value, healthy argumentation
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Nakita nyo naman kami ng mga friends ko, nag-argue naman kami, minsan nakakainitan
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Pero end of the day we are still friends, yun yung importante
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So meron din mga arguments na hindi maganda yung pinuntahan katulad nung about sa crypto and stuff like that
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So this is a breath of fresh air kasi someone like Irene Niman pinapakitaan niya tayo ng tamang galawan dito sa internet
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So very good, mali
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So Mr. Kentot first, hello sa'yo Kevin Mars
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As always tol maraming salamat
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Salamat lagi sa pag-suporta mo
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Requesto ng mga tao sa Armada
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And of course I love these people, walang problema
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Haven't you heard? What's up?
01:08.4
Mamaya po meron tayo kay Rosmar naman
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Or kay Josh, hindi ko alam kung ano yung mas gusto nyo
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Kung kay Rosmar ba o kay Josh eh
01:17.8
Josh, dyan ba ay Mark Frado DJ, haven't you heard?
01:21.9
Dyan Ed Victorino
01:23.2
And live ka na po ba?
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Hindi kasi simula pa lang
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Chris Leonex Equival, grabe yung pangalan
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Irene Niman and Seven Barreto
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Si Seven Barreto po ay isang sikat na photographer
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Habang si Irene Niman naman ay isang artista
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At saka ano siya, ano na tawag dito, host
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Siya yung mga MC na tinatawag sa mga show
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Purple Ram, hello
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Mike Frando, idol
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BJ New Haircut, medyo lumana ng konti
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Super Kakarot, hello sa'yo
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Karil Marie, hello sa'yo ma'am
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Mark Mapagmahal, hello bro
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Ano yun, anong tanong ninyo?
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Kuroro 100, hindi pa naman
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Mark Kevin X Talk Show, hello
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Jay Delo, watching ND while playing ML
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Chris Leonex Equival, thank you
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Sa mga kamatas, mga kaibigan
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Simulan na po natin ng mga kaibigan
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ng ating story for today
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Ang story po natin for today
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Teka lang, lalagay ko lang kayo rito
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Siguro, pagka ganito kasi
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Medyo patapos na kasi yung month
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Medyo kailangan na tayong mag-grind-grind
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Unfortunately, sa Facebook
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Kahit viral ako dun
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Wala akong bayad, pero okay lang
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Kasi mahal ko naman kayo eh
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Yung message ko, I want it na
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Kumalat sa internet
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Kasi sa tingin ko naman, hindi naman ako
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Okay, so ang story po natin ngayon
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Si Irene Niman at saka si
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Mr. Anong pangalan na ito?
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Para sa mga hindi po nakakakilala
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Si Seven Barreto po ay isang
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Photographer, professional photographer
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The internet, siya daw po ay isa
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Photographer dito sa Pilipinas
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Sa mga mga mga mga mga mga mga mga
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Sa mga mga mga sa mga mga mga mga
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Sa mga mga mga mga mga, sa satang handa
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As in mga mga mga mga mga
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Matagal na kasi siyang
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Matagal na siyang
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Photographer nitong
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Usual rate mo at saka yung
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Standard rate na tinatawag
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So nagulat siya, dahil nung huling shoot niya
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Sa kumpanya na ito gave them
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yung editorial rate na tinatawag, which is, according to the balita, it's around 8,000 pesos.
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Siyempre, ang kuya mo, after makareceive ng 8,000 pesos na nakita or ng editorial rate, mga kamatas, mga kaibigan,
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medyo dinala niya sa Facebook yung galawan. Marami siyang nasabi dito.
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Okay, ayan. Una muna, nag-post siya. Tapos, linabas niya yung mga DMs na tinatawag.
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Now, I am not a lawyer, of course, pero private messages kasi yun eh.
04:35.0
And of course, yung mga ganyan, lalong-lalo na kung, kasi ang alam ko, don't quote me on this,
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pero there is already jurisprudence, I think, na even if you do not name the person, as long as may hints doon,
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baka may problema pa rin. Pero the best siguro is to keep it private. Siguro yun lang yung gusto kong sabihin doon.
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Anyway, linabas niya yung DMs in relation po doon sa, teka lang hanapin natin, medyo nawala na kasi matagal na ito eh.
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Wait lang ha, kasi one week na kasi ito. Sabi niya ganoon, as per layout deliverables po sa singilang ko,
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kaya hindi po pwede pa ekstra, bawat ekstra dapat may additional.
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Also, this makes things clear na hindi na ito editorial rate hanggang di nyo inaayos yung sistema nyo.
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No contract, no shoot. I'll make sure you ask if nabayaran ng creatives ng tama.
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Lahat ng sumbong nila ipopost ko, bigyan nyo hanggang end of 2020 rin para ayusin lahat.
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Basically kasi nga, yun nga, kasi nga pag business, siyempre gusto nilang makatipo.
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But, eto, eh dito nagsimula yun eh. Nakaka-offend yung pinag-shoot ka ng pagkakadami-daming artista.
05:56.0
Oh, san kaya ito? Kasi artista to eh, diba?
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8K lang yung ibibigay sa'yo. Kulang pa yun pambayad ng assistant ko.
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This really shows kung gaano kababa ang respeto sa creatives, okay?
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So, ang creatives dito, yung artists.
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So, ang problema kasi, konting scroll down, may mga nakatag dito.
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Kasi, alam mo na, kung saan man yan.
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Hindi ko nalang babanggitin ah, kasi I don't wanna get in legal trouble.
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Nagbabagong buhay na ako, tsumitsismis na lang ako.
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So, hello po sa mga bagong pasok, palakpakan nyo sa sarili nyo.
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Hindi, yun naman din yung i-explain mamaya ni Irie, ni Irie Niman.
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Maganda nga, ang galing kasi ni Irie talagang very articulate na tao talaga.
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And gusto ko lang din ipakita.
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Pagkakita sa inyo na pwede pala tayong makipag-argue dito sa social media
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nang hindi kayo nagpapatayan at nagpapahiyaan.
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And mamaya, meron akong educational theory na ibibigay sa inyo.
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It's going to be a very fruitful discussion, okay?
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So, boss Andy, balita ko umabot ng mga walk dyan sa Pinas.
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Nuko, Diyos ko. Matagal na.
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Kaya nga, kaya nga yung ideology ko is kind of,
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gusto ko talaga yung,
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medyo conservative na philosophy.
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Kaso nga lang, napapangunahan kasi ng red pill eh.
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Yung extreme form kasi ng conservative philosophy,
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in my opinion, is yung red pill ni Andrew Tate.
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Gusto ko nakagitna lang.
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Yung values pa rin sana ng old school ay maano natin.
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Mailabas pa rin natin.
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Kaya nga, dinidibang ko si Josh Moy.
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Anyway, sabi niya dito,
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also, I'm calling out photographers, videographers company kayo,
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kung nagpasimula ng ganitong sustema.
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Pumayag kayo sa ex-deal or low-budget para mag-shoot ng celebrity and exposure.
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Kaya tayo inaabuso kasi di nyo alam worth nyo.
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We creatives are the heart and soul of art.
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Without art, we are nothing.
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Remember, exposure doesn't pay the bills.
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Iakyat mo ako, Nico David.
08:18.8
Paano kita iakyat, Comicsman Podcast?
08:24.1
Eh, hindi naman ako nakatawag dito.
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Anong tawag doon?
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Yung sa inyo, OBS ako eh.
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Walang link-link dito.
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Anyway, ang story, kasi Comicsman din kasi, by the way, is an artist as well.
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So, siya, may rate itong mga artist na to.
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Nagigets ko naman to.
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Kapaturo, hindi ako babayaro, gago.
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Ah, thank you to all those, ah, brands, clients, so pay in full.
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On time, pasabog, pakain, at maalaga sa shoot.
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You respect, you know your worth.
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Appreciate you all.
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Kaso, ang hindi ko lang siguro nagustuhan kay Seven kasi.
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Parang, sine-semi-exposed niya yung, ah, yung kumpanya kung saan siya nag-work.
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Eh, ang problema, konting scroll mo lang, parang magigets mo kung sino yung pinatatamaan niya.
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Katulad nito, diba?
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Hindi ko to, ah, kasi konting scroll lang, alam mo na kung sino, eh, diba?
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So, ah, kung gano'n, parang, of course, kung ikaw yung kumpanya, do you really would like to work with this person?
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Pagka gano'n, pero, ah, ano, risk niya yun, eh.
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Pero siguro, alam niya naman nga yung work niya, so alam niya kung gano'n siya katalented.
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So, I do not think naman na end of the day, mawawalan siya ng work.
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So, ah, gusto ko lang bigyan ng parang feel good yung arc nito.
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Kasi, ah, end of the, ang nangyari kasi after nito, mga kamatis, mga kaibigan, ah, na ano siya, na, na, na cover siya ng inquirer.
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Ayan, sabi, freelance, Filipino freelance photographer calls out client and their, the entire industry for engaging in lowball techniques.
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Ah, ayan, diba? Ah, teka, taas natin ng konti, ah.
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Photographer, kinalangpag, kinalangpag ang barat na client.
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Grabe naman, balita net, ayusin nyo.
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Grabe sa wording, mga kamatis, mga kaibigan.
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Pero, eh, I think ang pinakamagandang naging, ah, ano nito, is nakakuha yata siya ng isang, ah, ng isang kumpanya na he would be treated better.
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So, parang at least yung sa end niya, nakakuha siya ng company na, ah, na parang mag-a-appreciate sa kanya.
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So, saan papasok dito si Irene Niman?
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Kasi si Irene Niman understand the situation.
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And, of course, creative din kasi si Irene Niman.
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And, nag-host din siya for a fee.
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So, sumagot siya kay, ano, kay Mr. Seven Barreto.
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Ito yung kanilang discussion.
10:58.0
Ah, i-summarize ko na lang sa inyo, ah, kasi very, ano ito, eh, very meta yung kanilang usapan.
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Ibig kong sabihin ba, ah, if you are working as a freelancer, if you are work, ah, if you, ah, katulad nila comics man, magigets mo yung usapan nila.
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Ako kasi, I work for YouTube.
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I work for the Google conglomerate. I'm very sorry.
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I work for Alphabet. Di ba, yun yung, ano ko eh.
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Actually, yes, YouTube is kind of my job.
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And, of course, as a business owner, I don't understand this.
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Pero, yung mga tao, maraming nakaka-relate dito sa discussion na to.
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And, you know, this is how you really handle this kind of, ah, sagutan, with dignity.
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Alam mo yun, maraming kasing nagsasabi dito sa internet ng issue, hindi tao.
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Kaso, pansin ko lang, ah, pagka, kapag ka nagkakadiskusyonan na,
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nagkakaroon ng below the belt na mga tirahan and ding kung saan-saan umaabot.
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So, eto talaga yung example, the best example ng issue hindi tao.
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Yung, yung kay Seven at saka kay, ah, yung kay Seven at saka kay Irie.
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Sana lang talaga tularan natin.
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Kasi nga, ah, lalong-lalo na ngayon, okay lang naman makipag-argue.
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Kami nila comics man, araw-araw kami nagtatalon yung mga yun.
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Yan, minsan iniinis ko sila, iniinis din nila ako.
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Pero end of the day, magkakabati pa, ah, ka pa rin kami.
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Si Melo, diba, inakyat ko pa yan.
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Si Garawi, diba, so, ang, ang, yan yung gusto ko na, ano, na kind of discussion.
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Yan, we had a very healthy discussion.
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So, yan, I plan, I lent yung video tomorrow, Tackling the Keys, Things About Creatives.
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Okay, so, ah, dinownload ko yung, ano, gusto ko mag-react kasi dito, mga kamatis, mga kaibigan,
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dito sa gawa niya Irene Iman.
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Maganda talaga ito, eh.
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Anyway, pakinggan natin.
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I understand what Seven is fighting for, but the approach kasi is, I believe,
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modeling the wrong behavior for fellow creatives and young impressionable photographers who look up to Seven.
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Okay, so, this is actually a learning theory.
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I don't know kung education din ba itong si Irene Iman or may psychologist,
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but, ah, he is pertaining to the social learning, ah, theory ni Bandura.
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Ang galing nga, kasi hindi, hindi siya ma-flex dun sa alam niya.
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Pero, I, I know, pag nakita mo yung words na ginamit niya, he knows something about it.
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Kasi nga, ah, in today's time talaga, importanteng-importante talaga yung, ah, yung inaakto mo sa social media.
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Because, lalong-lalo na if you are in the position of, ah, Seven Barreto na isang tanyag na photographer,
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ah, you will be imitating.
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You will be imitated by, ah, mga baguhan na photographer.
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And this is also said, eto rin yung sinasabi sa social learning theory ni Albert Banduras, mga kamatis.
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Mga kaibigan, ah, one, ah, kasi sa, ah, ayan, ah, the theory that says human learn, ah, learn socially, not just intellectually.
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Ah, kung, kung gagawin ko itong pinakasimple, eto yung tinatawag na monkey see, monkey do.
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Kung ano yung nakikita mo sa internet, usually, kinokopia mo yun.
14:12.3
Kung nga rin may sikat na pranks, umikat yung mga pranks, edi ang daming gumaya ng pranks.
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Kasi nakikita nila, ah, nagiging fruitful yun, diba?
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Ngayon, ang ayaw kasi ni Irene Iman dito, na kapag ka hindi mo nagustuhan yung, yung galawan ng kliyente mo, eh, bigla mong i-call out.
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Yun, doon yung, ah, point of contention niya, which is correct.
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Kasi ako, doon ako nag-a-agree kay Irene Iman.
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Pero, ah, yung whole, ano neto, kayong mga creatives na meron kayong, ano, you have to push your, ah, kung, kung magkano, kailangan sabihin nyo yun.
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And makipag-hagel kayo.
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Irene Iman is a smart guy, kalbo lang talaga.
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Grabe naman sa mga kalbo.
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Ayon, so, ah, pabood na lang, Boss Andy.
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Hindi, mabilis lang to, Mardona.
14:59.0
Mga, walang 30 minutes to.
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So, this is, ah, so, mahusay talaga tong CIR.
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So, tuloy natin na.
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Kasi, kapupulutan talaga ng aral.
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Eto talaga yung, yung issue lang yung pinag-uusapan nila.
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And they treated each other with respect.
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Yun yung gusto ko, eh.
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Walang tawagan ng kung, ano, ano.
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Ano yung mabudeng?
15:18.2
Seven Barreto, um, he recently, um, is making the rounds on socials.
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And everyone has having this discussion about, he did 8 hours of work.
15:27.8
Ganas Ria, shout out for Baguio.
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He only got 8K, he shot almost 100 packs.
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Absolutely low ball.
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Totally understand Seven's frustration.
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Ayon, diba, ah, ano yun, ah, sign of empathy agad.
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Gets niya kasi nga, ang dami nun.
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Isang daan yung sinot niya, tapos 8K lang.
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Lugi pa sa assistant.
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Of course, i-edit niya pa yun.
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Ang haba nung proseso na yun, for 8K, diba, so lugi talaga.
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Ito na yung sasabihin nila yung contention.
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And I do agree with what he's fighting for, which is fair rates.
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We shouldn't be abused by clients who abuse their leverage and power.
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Totally naintindihan ko yan.
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This is something that so many creatives struggle with.
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I agree with that, Seven.
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What I disagree with is his approach to all of this.
16:12.4
Yan talaga yung hindi maganda.
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Kasi parang, ayong magpo-post.
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Nang screenshot, tapos binabad...
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Hindi naman binabadmout.
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Parang, hindi, ganun na rin eh.
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Parang, grabe yung criticism kasi ni Seven Barreto when I was reading this.
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Talagang galit na galit eh.
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Basically, he said he did a project with them before.
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And that was his basis for him assuming that he would be paid for the amount of work that he did.
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Oo nga, parang in-assume niya na kung ano yung inisip niya doon, kung ano yung dati, yun din yung i-apply.
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Ang problema lang...
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Ang problema lang kasi, I think Seven is working with a company na maraming moving parts.
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Kaya kailangan maging specific kung magkano yung rates niya.
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Dapat kailangan ganun talaga eh.
16:56.9
Though, it wasn't clear for this particular...
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Creditor approach.
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Kasi nga ngayon kasi, sa tingin ko kasi, we are in the age of information na konting ungot mo lang,
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pinopost ka kaagad.
17:08.3
We already have the power to broadcast eh.
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Kaya nga ang daling magkipag-away ngayon sa internet eh.
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Konting post mo lang na hindi nag-upload.
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Away na agad, right?
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So, I think si Irie dito is...
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Alam mo yung letting cooler heads prevail na nakasabihan.
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Yun yung essentially tinuturo niya, which is good, di ba?
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Ilang taon na ba si Seven Barreto?
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I think mas bata sa atin tong comics.
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Sabi yata, gen si Seven eh.
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He's gonna get paid the amount that he expected.
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So, what happened is,
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when he got paid, sobrang na-surprise siya.
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This is what he said.
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He took screenshots and posted.
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Yun o, yun pa yan yung hindi maganda nga.
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Kasi ako talaga, I would ask all of you guys to refrain from posting screenshots
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unless yung screenshot na yun ay yung neutral lang.
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Ito kasi medyo, alam mo yun, medyo ano eh, hindi maganda.
18:08.0
On his social media.
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Ato approach, sumisigaw.
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Okay, sige, sunod.
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Talking to a colleague.
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He's a talent coordinator, as I assume.
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Saying basically, he was basically frustrated and was pouring it out.
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When it came to rate na may please get your asking rate,
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you should have asked me this before we proceed with the project.
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I've been shooting for the brand for years already.
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I understand the authority for some projects,
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but I think the management should stop.
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Creatives deserve better than that pay us according to the amount of work we did.
18:35.8
This is where I just disagree with the approach.
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Kasi medyo ano nga eh.
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Medyo, it's such a gen-C thing to do.
18:44.1
Yung ipopost mo agad sa socials mo.
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So, do it professionally.
18:49.0
I think, naaalala nyo yung discussion natin dati doon sa lalaki na,
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hindi, ano to, ibang topic to.
18:56.5
Yung sa ahas, sino nakakaalala nun?
18:59.4
Diba dati may kinover tayo na isang photographer din na hindi niya sinote yung wedding ng dalawang tao.
19:08.5
Eh, malamang dalawang tao.
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Yung wedding kasi yung mga tao dun daw sinaktan nila or sinira nila yung habitat ng ahas.
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It's almost the same as this eh.
19:18.8
Kasi we're, it's as if we're putting, ah, we're putting things online na, private things online na pwede naman natin pag-usapan.
19:30.3
Siguro yung, ah, ah, sabi ni, sabi ni, ah, Biet Niwar, I have a digital marketing agency and importante talaga before closing the deal,
19:39.7
dapat sobrang linaw yung gagawin.
19:41.8
Mga gagawin expect, ah, ah, sobrang ipapagwa.
19:45.6
Kaya dapat malinaw yung service.
19:47.9
I agree with that.
19:49.3
Ah, kailangan talaga objective.
19:50.9
Yung goals nyo dapat align and kung magkano.
19:53.9
And kung mag-extra man, eto yung bayad.
19:56.0
Dapat ganun talaga.
19:57.4
Classroom, napak, hindi na, classroom move ba?
20:00.1
Parang, well, a little bit of immaturity I, I wanna say or at least, ano eh.
20:05.8
Basta, pakinggan natin si, ah, si Iris.
20:08.4
Gusto ko siya mag-explain.
20:09.7
Mas magaling siya sa akin dito eh.
20:11.0
I get Seven's, um, frustration.
20:14.3
But what he's saying,
20:15.6
kasi is, you should have asked me this before we proceeded with the project.
20:19.2
You, you are absolving yourself from the, from accountability of having to do this as well.
20:24.9
Yourself, you should make it clear.
20:26.7
Us as creatives need to make it clear.
20:28.5
Oo nga, hindi mo pwede kasing i-assume na yung value mo is already known by,
20:33.8
especially a big company.
20:35.4
You have to tell them.
20:36.8
Set contracts, put it in writing, para klaro lahat before we do any work or any service,
20:42.1
professional service, to any client.
20:47.8
This is standard.
20:49.2
Actually, na, yun nga eh, standard practice pa lang pala sa'yo niyan.
20:52.5
Comics, ikaw ba, mag, magsalita ka nga dyan kung ano yung sa'yo.
20:56.1
Gusto ko kitang pakikating ka, so hindi naman ako naka, ano yun, yung ginagamit yung lamelo.
21:00.6
Business, practice, and all good, decent clients do agree to these things.
21:08.7
Let's talk for the article.
21:10.2
Kasi in-explain ni Seven to in our exchanges.
21:13.1
Sabi niya, point taken.
21:14.5
Um, if we ask for,
21:15.6
for contrast, this particular client will blacklist them and think that we're brats or divas.
21:20.4
Resulting to us not having any clients or no food in the table, let me know.
21:23.7
What do you feel about us feeling that pressure and being abused?
21:26.4
I will touch on that later.
21:27.8
By the way, we had a very civil conversation.
21:29.5
Yan o, yan talaga yung masarap eh.
21:31.1
Sana dumating yung Pilipinas na lahat ng tao hindi nagbabardagulan.
21:36.5
No, yung civilized lang.
21:38.9
Tingnan ko nga kasi may kabardagulan ako dun sa ano eh.
21:42.0
Papakita ko lang sa inyo ha.
21:43.3
This is, this is the,
21:45.1
ah, thing that I get every day.
21:47.1
Every day, every single day,
21:50.6
So, meron akong argument na na hindi na pinatulan.
21:53.9
Eto, galing to sa lalaki na to.
21:56.1
Sorry ha, papakita ko lang just to give you an example ha.
21:59.3
Ngayon, meron, okay lang naman yung argument niya.
22:02.1
Kaso tinignan ko, hindi kasi siya kapatol-patol.
22:04.7
Kasi hindi niya na gets yung point.
22:06.7
So, minsan kapag kaganyan, hinahayaan ko na lang.
22:10.1
Kung baga, dissenting opinion niya yan eh.
22:15.1
sa page ko, nakita ko,
22:16.8
tumitinipira ako.
22:18.9
O, sige, okay lang kasi, ano naman yan eh,
22:21.3
public naman to, and, you know,
22:25.0
Wala tayong magagawa.
22:26.4
Eh, hindi ko siya sinagot.
22:28.9
minessage niya pa ako.
22:30.6
Eh, nanapika ako,
22:32.1
eh, disinagot ko.
22:34.5
Tawagin ba naman akong bobo?
22:42.4
Nag-aayos na ako sa buhay ko,
22:43.9
tatawagin mo akong bobo.
22:45.2
Parang ako si Tony Fowler, yung, ano,
22:48.5
nagbabago na ako eh.
22:49.6
Linabas mo yung, ano mo eh.
22:53.6
Bakit mo ko eh, may message pa?
22:55.8
Hindi ba pwedeng makipag-away ka dun sa
22:58.4
libo-libong tao sa comment section
23:04.6
Anyway, tuloy na natin to.
23:09.6
I hope, Boss Nix,
23:10.6
na matuto yung dalawang side.
23:12.4
Sa tingin ko, Boss Nix,
23:13.4
baka may kumiscommunication lang.
23:14.9
Before accepting the deal.
23:16.7
And of course, you don't need to put it on social media.
23:19.7
You can just talk with the client.
23:24.3
kasi parang pag pinost mo sa social media,
23:26.7
there is a very good chance that you burn bridges.
23:30.1
Mark, thank you so much for $5.
23:36.3
I appreciate this.
23:36.9
With Seven, he's obviously a articulate,
23:39.1
educated, level-headed person.
23:41.5
But this is a frustrated creative.
23:44.2
He's hired for a broken system.
23:45.8
An abusive system.
23:46.8
Siguro hindi lang first time nangyari ito kay Seven.
23:51.5
Pero again, kailangan kasi we have to work through our stuff in our head eh.
23:56.9
I'll touch on this later.
23:58.9
Let's go with the article because this is what everyone has been seeing
24:02.9
and a lot of young, impressionable, creative professionals have been seeing.
24:07.9
This is my main issue.
24:10.3
What Seven is fighting for is fair rates.
24:13.5
But his approach is basically modeling...
24:16.5
Kita nyo social learning theory na naman.
24:18.6
Ayree, ang lupit mo, Bokalz ha...
24:21.2
San na magkaroon ako ng mga kaibigan ng kalbon na matalino?
24:24.3
Kasi mga kaibigan kong kalbon na matalino...
24:27.0
mautak din naman,
24:32.8
...and saying that even if I do not talk to the client
24:38.0
and make clear how much my rate is and put that into writing,
24:42.3
the client should whine, I don't know how much ah p Import Freunde
24:42.5
mga regal ah kung kaibigan ng kalbon na matalino and make clear how much my rate is and put that into writing,
24:42.7
the client should whine, I don't know how much ah p There's a lot of nelaglichkeit.
24:42.9
Clients should still know what I'm worth
24:46.4
even if it's a new project
24:48.2
because we worked on past projects.
24:50.0
So me, it's okay for me to assume
24:52.6
and not do my due diligence
24:54.3
and make sure everything is in writing
24:57.7
and make sure at least you have some paper trail
25:00.3
na nag-areglo ko yung rate for this particular.
25:02.7
Oo nga, kailangan at least meron sa DM man lang.
25:06.2
Uy, ito yung presyo ko ha.
25:09.7
Sana dapat hindi, alam mo yun, at least doon.
25:16.0
Ikaw ba comics? Ano bang best practices mo?
25:19.3
Malita ko kasi si comics, loki mayaman yan eh.
25:22.0
Even if I do not do that,
25:25.2
it's okay for me to expect to be paid my standard rate
25:29.6
that I have for myself, what I am worth basically.
25:32.6
That is the mindset and that is the behavior
25:36.1
and the attitude that you are modeling.
25:39.2
Kasi nga, maraming, kilala kasi siya talaga.
25:42.6
So pagka ginagawa yan yung pinakamataas,
25:45.2
yun yung pinakamababa.
25:46.5
Kaya ako, mga kamatis, sinasabi ko sa inyo,
25:50.5
kung wag nyong gayahin yung mga kalokohan ko,
25:53.6
gayahin nyo yung, at least yung sinasabi ko,
25:56.7
wala naman akong kalokohan.
25:57.9
Actually, napaka-harmless ko ngang tao.
26:00.6
Pero ang sinasabi ko lang,
26:02.4
there are some influencers kasi here in this country
26:07.3
na parang they do,
26:09.2
so much extreme stuff
26:11.1
na ginagaya sila, ina-idol sila
26:13.8
nung mga tao sa paligid nila.
26:16.4
And it ends up na yung mga taong gumaya sa kanila,
26:20.3
sino pa yung napapatrouble?
26:21.5
Do you get it, mga kamatis, mga kaibigan?
26:25.4
Maradona, 500k subs,
26:28.4
sige pare, aahitin ko lahat ng buho ko sa ulo.
26:32.6
Leave absolves any creative professional
26:36.3
of the accountability to do healthy business.
26:39.6
Yung creative photographers who look up to 7
26:42.6
because he is very well positioned already.
26:44.7
Ah, dahil ginawa ni 7 yan.
26:48.5
Kaya nga, lagi kong sinasabi yan, diba?
26:51.2
Isang criticism ko yan doon sa mga influencer na,
26:54.9
especially those influencer na malakas,
26:57.4
yung paastig dito sa social media,
27:00.6
people will copy you.
27:02.6
So you have to be careful.
27:04.2
Kasi pag ikaw na malaki,
27:07.1
kaya mo yung sarili mo eh.
27:08.7
Kasi may position ka na, may kilala ka na.
27:12.4
Pero yung maliliit,
27:13.9
pag ginawa nila yan,
27:15.5
todas yung buhay nila.
27:20.8
I like this argument talaga eh.
27:23.6
Sana nagigets nung mga tao yung pinagsasasabi ko ha.
27:29.1
kung anuman rate ko,
27:29.9
maski hindi kami nag-usap,
27:31.4
dapat bayaran pa rin ako.
27:33.3
normally Boss Nix,
27:35.0
ang ginagawa ko kapag ganyan may discovery call,
27:37.8
alamin ang guling,
27:39.6
plan and lahat ng need niya,
27:41.5
saka ko ilalatang ibibigay ang presyo.
27:44.0
So objectives muna,
27:45.8
tapos tsaka yung presyo.
27:47.2
Ang problem din siguro,
27:48.6
ay may offer silang service,
27:50.1
tapos mahihiya silang magbigay ng price.
27:52.9
Hahayaan nila yung,
27:55.6
parang bigay yung client,
27:57.7
pag di nagustuhan,
27:59.3
it's bad practice.
28:01.4
Ang nangyari kasi,
28:03.3
meron kasing rate na si Irie,
28:08.5
na alam nung company.
28:12.1
lots of moving parts,
28:13.3
I would understand.
28:15.1
siguro iba yung nag-handle sa kanya,
28:17.2
so ang binigay sa kanya,
28:18.1
yung editorial rate,
28:21.9
biglang naging 8.
28:23.4
umalma ang kuya mo,
28:24.9
ba't naman ganon?
28:26.4
Dami kong ginawa eh,
28:29.4
So ganon yung nangyari.
28:31.6
ang sinasabi kasi ni Irie,
28:33.3
in all your transactions,
28:38.5
if you are someone
28:39.8
in the position of power,
28:42.0
if you are someone
28:42.8
in the position of influence,
28:45.7
Ganon lang kasimple yun.
28:47.7
Huwag mo munang daling sa social media.
28:49.7
Huwag ka munang mag-live sa social media.
28:52.3
Tapos bigla kang magwawala doon.
28:55.0
Yak yak kang ganon.
28:59.6
Anyway, tuloy natin.
29:01.7
Magaling talaga tong ano na to eh.
29:05.8
kung di nila nakuha,
29:06.6
kung ma-offend ako,
29:08.5
tuko sila sa social media.
29:10.0
This is my only gripe.
29:12.5
I understand what Seven is fighting for,
29:15.2
but the approach kasi,
29:18.2
modeling the wrong behavior
29:20.0
for fellow creatives.
29:21.8
Not only creatives,
29:23.0
it also applies to social media influencer.
29:26.8
impressionable photographers
29:28.4
who look up to Seven
29:31.4
where it's already so hard for creatives to make it,
29:34.3
especially here in the Philippines
29:36.3
because standard practices are really hard.
29:38.9
kwento ko lang sa inyo dati,
29:40.5
may hinire ako for professional work.
29:49.1
nagulat na lang ako
29:50.0
nung dumating yung rate niya sa akin.
29:54.7
tropa-tropa nung una eh.
29:57.4
Puta, ang mahal pala.
30:02.1
parang hindi ako ready
30:03.0
nung nakita ko yung resibo.
30:06.5
Hinayaan ko na lang.
30:08.2
Hindi ko na pinost.
30:09.6
So, parang, okay.
30:12.1
Ah, ganun pala talaga yung rate.
30:13.5
Kumbaga, tinanggap ko na lang
30:18.2
friends kami nung tao
30:20.6
during that time.
30:22.4
Parang, hinayaan ko na lang.
30:24.1
Pero, ang sinasabi ko lang,
30:25.5
as a paying client,
30:28.1
nakakagulat minsan
30:29.1
kung eto pala yung rate nyo.
30:32.5
May invoice na lang biglang.
30:35.5
kinang mahal pala.
30:37.3
Kaya, maganda talaga.
30:38.2
Magka-clear yung both sides.
30:40.0
For a lot of people,
30:42.8
a lot of clients abuse,
30:44.8
do you really think
30:48.8
Maganda lang talaga.
30:52.4
Emotional behavior.
30:54.8
seven here was definitely emotion.
30:57.3
when the emotions are high,
30:59.7
the intelligence is suffering
31:02.0
a little bit of depression.
31:10.3
Had he been more level-headed
31:12.1
and still went public,
31:14.1
let me make an example.
31:15.6
I have spoken to this client.
31:18.7
ito yung tamang rules,
31:23.3
Did not discuss rates,
31:25.5
but based on the work
31:26.9
I have done for them,
31:29.3
I assumed that I would be paid
31:31.7
the amount based on the work
31:33.5
that I have provided.
31:34.7
Since we did projects together,
31:36.5
I expected that I would be paid the same
31:38.8
because we already have that working history.
31:40.9
So basically, binayaran ako ng ganitong trabaho,
31:43.1
okay naman yung bayad nila.
31:44.9
For this one, it's safe to assume
31:47.1
that I would be paid the same thing.
31:49.1
Had he done this, and then he proceeded on saying,
31:53.2
I brought it up with the client.
31:55.4
Tapos yung client, yung kupal.
31:57.7
And I said, please pay me my standard rate,
31:59.7
this is the rate based on the history.
32:01.4
Kasi may history na sila eh.
32:03.1
Seven, you have history already.
32:05.0
Binayaran ka na ng rate mo.
32:06.9
You can just bring it up.
32:08.7
Please pay me the amount based on the amount of work.
32:11.6
You know my rates.
32:15.5
and the client said,
32:16.9
no, we're not going to pay you the rates,
32:18.4
we'll still pay you editorial rates.
32:22.4
And he brought it up on social media.
32:24.6
Kinausap po sila ng maayos.
32:27.3
I assumed you would pay me my rates.
32:29.1
I gave him a chance to pay me my actual rate.
32:31.7
They still pay me editorial rates
32:33.3
and not the actual rates that I'm supposed to be paid
32:36.2
based on our working history.
32:39.5
Oo. Lahat kami kakampi sa'yo.
32:41.8
Kasi naging professional ka eh.
32:43.6
Ikaw lang yung kinupal talaga eh.
32:45.9
Meaning you were professional with it.
32:48.6
You tried to handle it properly.
32:51.1
And because they still didn't pay you what you are worth
32:53.7
and what you're normally paid for based on your working history,
32:56.7
you went public and called them out.
32:59.2
Walang butas sa'yo.
33:00.8
You are not modeling entitled behavior.
33:03.9
You are not excusing them for the,
33:05.8
for the responsibility of having to negotiate yourself
33:09.4
and making sure the scope of work is clear
33:11.8
and putting that into writing.
33:13.8
You are modeling professional, objective, healthy behavior.
33:18.4
Parang dapat kasi last resort na talaga ang social media
33:21.6
before you put anything out.
33:23.6
Kasi once you put it out there, everyone will know.
33:26.0
Eto, putya, ang laking issue nito,
33:31.3
Inquirer pa yung nag-pick up, pare.
33:33.2
Putang inang yan.
33:35.3
Kasi binigyan mo sila ng chance na mag-ayos
33:38.0
and they still didn't.
33:40.5
If you did it that way, wala akong kaso.
33:42.9
Kasi kung napanood yan ng kahit anong photographer
33:45.3
na baguhan pa lang
33:48.9
creative that looks up to you
33:52.8
like, oh tama, gagawin ko yan.
33:55.2
O, pag hindi nagkaayos,
33:56.6
tara, popost kita sa social media.
33:58.3
Yan kasi yun talagang iniiwasan ko, mga kamatis.
34:00.7
Seven Barreto na yan eh.
34:01.9
Gagawin ko rin yan.
34:03.3
Hindi ang last option.
34:05.3
Alam mo, bago kayong magkatulpuhan,
34:07.5
mag-usap muna kayo.
34:09.1
Bago kayong mag-post sa social media,
34:11.0
mag-usap muna kayo.
34:12.9
Bago kayong magkasuhan,
34:14.2
mag-usap muna kayo.
34:16.8
Lalo na kung alam nyo yung Facebook
34:21.3
Juggernaut Prime, hello.
34:22.4
Long time no look, pare.
34:23.8
Are you really helping them succeed?
34:26.2
I guess, Boss Nix,
34:27.4
baba value ni Seven
34:28.4
dahil sa ginawa niya.
34:29.4
The last thing that they want to have
34:31.2
is a partner na pwedeng makas...
34:33.1
Yun nga yung biglang lalabas eh.
34:35.3
ang iniiwasan din ng ibang clients eh.
34:37.2
In a world that is already so hard for creators.
34:40.5
O, ang dami na rin kasi.
34:41.5
Are you helping them
34:43.1
practice and nurture
34:46.1
healthy business habits
34:48.1
that will get you closer
34:49.4
to finding clients that actually value you?
34:53.6
And this is my only issue.
34:55.6
So, yun lang mga kamatis, mga kaibigan.
34:57.5
Kasi gusto ko lang i-highlight talaga to.
34:59.4
Kasi ang dami talagang matututunan dito.
35:02.5
And I would implore everyone here na,
35:04.9
panoorin yung buong video ni Irene Iman.
35:08.2
Kung pwede nyo i-share, i-share nyo.
35:09.8
Kasi kulang talaga sa nakakakita rito.
35:12.6
It also applies to influencer.
35:14.7
Yung sinasabi niya eh.
35:16.2
Na if you have a platform,
35:19.3
kung may problema ka sa isang tao,
35:22.8
mag-usap muna kayo
35:23.8
bago nyo i-post sa social media.
35:25.6
Kasi once it's public,
35:27.3
lahat ng tao uuupin yun dyan,
35:29.1
patay tayo, right?
35:30.2
Yun lang naman yung sa akin for today, guys.
35:32.0
Mamaya po, Rosmar.
