ICC PROSECUTOR PWEDE MAG IMBESTIGA! VIETNAM AT CHINA PROBLEMA NG AFP SA WPS.
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Ang inyong mga pangalan after.
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Doon sa mga, sa comment section.
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Doon ko makikita.
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Pero mamaya pa yun.
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Pero, pagka whole live at sumali kayo sa live,
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dito ko makikita nyo yung mga pangalan.
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So, ito binabanggit ko.
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Mr. Reyes, good morning.
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Estelita Estereiro.
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Silaging kasama sa live natin.
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Arlene Ocampo ng New York.
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Sige, salamat po.
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Helen Villanueva.
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Ito yung ating pag-usapan ngayon.
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Kasi kahapon, talagang, alam nyo, matyaga akong mag-monitor, eh.
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Nakapalo po ako sa Senado, sa Kongreso, at saka RTBM.
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Salamat sa Radio TV Malacanang.
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Lahat ng activities ng Pangulo na mamonitor ko yan.
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Kasi ang RTBM ang nagmamonitor.
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Yung iskla, Bella.
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Kahapon, kung di ako nakakamali, mga hapat na oras yata yung hearing ng committee.
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Dalawang committee kasi.
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Committee on Justice at Committee on Human Rights.
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Ang topic nga po ay yung tungkol sa tatlong resolusyon ng Kongreso.
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Dalawang resolusyon doon, ang gusto nila makipag-coordinate ang gobyerno sa ICC.
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Yun namang isang resolusyon doon, yung 1477, kung di ako nakakamali, ni Lagman,
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Ang purpose doon, inuutosan niya, inaatasan niya,
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ang lahat ng agency ng pamahalaan makipag-coordinate sa ICC.
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So kahapon po, pangalawang hearing.
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At tinapos na nila.
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Grabe ho yung, ano, grabe ho yung mga opinion, interpretation, suggestion,
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at yung opinion ng matindi ng mga legal expert.
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Sa gobyerno, nandun si Sekretary Edardo Guevara,
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dating Justice Sekretary, ngayon Solicitor General ng Marcos Administration.
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Tapos yung may mga taga-UP, may mga oposisyon, may mga polis, at may mga taga-CHR.
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So sa tindi po ng mga opinion at tanungan, lumabas doon at ilang beses inulit
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ni Sekretary Guevara, dating Justice Sekretary ng panahon ni Duterte,
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at ngayon eh, Solicitor General,
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pwede palang pumasok, ICC Prosecutor, pwede palang pumasok,
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pwedeng mag-imbestiga.
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Dahil hindi daw naman pinipigilan yung Prosecutor,
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kasi iba yung Prosecutor mag-iimbestiga.
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So yung pag-iimbestiga pala ng International Criminal Court Prosecutor,
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hindi pala yun, no?
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Hindi pala pinagbabawal nila yun.
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Pwede mag-imbestiga pala.
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Dahil yun ang panayawala nila ng Solicitor General,
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pwede mag-imbestiga ang ICC Prosecutor.
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syempre nag-question and answer mga Kongresman,
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itinanong ngayon yung mga nandodon kung sila'y willing bang makipag-coordinate.
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Iyan, inamin ng PNP na sila'y willing makipag-coordinate kung papasok ang Prosecutor.
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Ang CHR, ganun din.
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Ang medyo nakakalito lang, bakit ng PNP walang official record
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kung ilan ang victim casualties dun po sa kampanyang niyan
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ng nakarang administrasyon sa illegal drugs?
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Kasi sa record ng Department of Justice kahapon,
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dyan sa hearing na yan lumabas,
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7,732 yung casualties.
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Fatalities, ano, ganun ang karami.
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Kala natin 6,000 lang, hindi pala.
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7,732 yung victim.
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Casualties po ito. Wala nang buhay ito.
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Pero sa CHR, ang natanggap nilang formal complaint o reklamo o nag-file ng kaso
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dahil nga sa human rights violation ay mahigit lang 3,900, more or less 4,000.
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Walang kalaw na 4,000 yung kasong nakarating sa CHR.
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So magsusumiti pa raw sila ng panilang record.
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Obvious naman ha, di naman talaga maglalabas na official record ang PNP kung di mo hihingan.
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Kasi sila nga yung involved dyan eh.
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Dahil sila yung inatasan sa War on Drugs campaign ng nakarang administrasyon.
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So kung inyo pong gustong madeneg or review,
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i-reviewin po ninyo yung public hearing kahapon.
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Medyo mahaba, 4 hours.
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Alas 10 yata yan.
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Tapos alas 2 na yan.
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At doon po nagkaroon talaga ng ano.
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Medyo naipig dyan si Sigar, si Solicitor General Guevara.
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Pero sinagot naman niya ang lahat.
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Misa may mga pagkakataon parang naging redanda na.
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Pero yung, yung tanong isa yung,
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pwede bang mag-imbestiga ang ICC prosecutor?
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Sabi niya, pwede silang pumasok.
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Hindi naman namin pwedeng pigilan yan eh.
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So, syempre, iba yun.
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At yun ang gusto ng mga tao.
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Inungin ang gusto ng iba.
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Pero may mga limit ang galaw.
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So, at ang issue kong isa na lumabas, nilabas ni dating congressman,
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Atty. Eric Colminares,
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ay yung mga basic or dahilan.
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Mga dahilan kung bakit sila nagpunta ng International Criminal Court.
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Bakit doon nagpunta yung mga komplena.
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Sandali. Pakilig ko nga sa inyo ito.
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Kasi may mga importante siyang pinakita
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kung ano ang mga dahilan.
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Noong 2017 pa pala eh.
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Noong magpayas sila ng kaso, member pa tayo ng ICC.
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Sandali ah kung makukuha natin.
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Palagi kong makukuha naman ito.
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Kasi malinaw naman.
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At importanteng maraming yan eh.
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It's a bit of a timeline, Mr. Chair.
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Since 1996, the Philippines under President Ramos
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took an active role in the ICC's establishment
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and was even a member of the drafting committee,
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which is what Gilbert just said.
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So we did not only sign the Rome Statute,
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we helped draft it, Mr. Chair.
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Kaya later on, yung claims to sovereignty,
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parang nagsintunado siya, Mr. Chair,
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kasi we helped draft the Rome Statute.
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December 28, 2001, it was signed or ratified by President Estrada.
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And August 30, 2011, with the support of President Taquino,
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the Senate concurred in the ratification.
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Three presidents, Mr. Chair,
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from different political parties,
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President Ramos of Lacaz,
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President Estrada of Partido ng Masang Pilipino,
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President Aquino of Liberal Party,
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all supported the Rome Statute.
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It is not something personal.
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It is not about any person in a sense
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because all political parties supported it
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and it was really supported by the Philippine government.
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Atty. Jude Sabio files a case
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called communication,
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they call it communication,
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before the ICC firm was murdered.
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Sen. Trillanes in 2017 filed a supplement there.
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it was filed before the Philippine withdrew.
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On August 18, 2018,
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Rise Up for Life and AJK Victims
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and disclosure, Mr. Chair,
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I'm one of the councils of the families of AJK victims,
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we filed the case in August of 2018.
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And mainly, of course,
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those complaints mainly centered on a President,
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a former President Duterte.
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That's why we keep on asking,
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is he being prosecuted?
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Because that is in relation to what Gilbert,
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Atty. Gilbert just said.
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Precisely, it was a question of the victims of the family.
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On March 17, 2019,
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the Philippines withdrew.
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So, before the Philippines withdrew,
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was there a matter,
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under consideration by the ICC?
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The answer is yes.
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It was already filed before that.
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It's a matter under consideration.
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If you look at Article 127 later on,
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we will find out what our interpretation is.
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Next slide, please.
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So, next slide, please.
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So, on November 23, 2021,
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the Office of the Prosecutor
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the first investigation giving the Philippines 30 days.
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That was the request of the Philippines.
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Up to December 22.
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the Philippines again sought for a 3-month extension.
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More or less up to March.
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The Prosecutor granted the request again.
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And when did the ICC start the pre-trial chamber,
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authorize the prosecution?
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It was in 2023, Mr. Chair.
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Ibig sabihin, mula 2021, 22, 23,
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binigyan ng ICC ang Pilipinas ng extension, in a sense,
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sige, sabihin niyo,
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ang iniimbestigan niyo ba?
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Pinoprosecute niyo ba?
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Hindi ito parang inapakan ng ICC ang Pilipinas eh.
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So, on 26 January of 2023,
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after appeals by the Philippines,
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the pre-trial chamber authorized the prosecution
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to resume investigation.
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Mahaba na po ang nangyari.
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But that's because
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the ICC recognized the due process rights
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of the Philippine government.
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Gusto niyo mag-a-a-a,
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gusto niyo mag-imbestiga?
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Sige, imbestiga kayo.
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We'll give you a chance.
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Gusto niyo mag-prosecute?
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Sige, prosecute kayo.
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We'll give you the chance.
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But in 2023, sabihin ng ICC,
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Mahaba na nito eh.
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So, on July 18 of 2023,
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the ICC appeals chamber
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will allow the prosecutor
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to continue the investigation.
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So, yun ang timeline.
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Next slide, please.
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ang binabanggit na complementarity provision,
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which the government,
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may nilabanggit na
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may nilabanggit na
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may nilabanggit na
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may nilabanggit na
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Ang sabi ng 17 ang court,
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inadmissible ang isang kaso
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against certain person.
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if the case is being investigated
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or prosecuted by a State
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with just jurisdiction over it.
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So, ang tanong na naman
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kung soong tingnan niyo yan
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yun ang crucial sentence.
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Yung unless the State
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is unwilling or unable
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to carry out the investigation
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Sin舞tas Iceland to
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will only be triggered
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if there is prosecution.
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If there is no prosecution,
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it is not even an issue for the ICC.
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Sabihin ng ICC, sabihin ng Pilipinas,
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eh, willing naman kami.
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Yeah, yeah, okay, you're willing, you're able,
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your justice system is functioning,
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but are you prosecuting him?
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Aba, kung usapan natin.
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You're not prosecuting him.
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So, why do you even get?
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O, yeah, yeah, sige lang.
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But if you're not prosecuting him,
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may jurisdiction ng ICC.
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It's a proof stage formula, Mr. Chair.
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And the willingness and the inability
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only becomes an issue
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if the state is prosecuting.
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Kasi pag pinaprosecute mo
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at sabihin ng mga biktima,
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actually, unyari lang yan,
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hindi naman yan, hindi genuine.
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As Attorney Andres said,
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hindi naman genuine.
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di yung defense naman ng kabila,
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Doon nalang yan pag-usapan.
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But as long as you're not prosecuting
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or investigating that person,
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there is even no need to talk
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about your willingness.
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Because you may be able,
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but you're not investigating
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So, next slide, please, Mr. Chair.
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I think I'm just three slides.
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Ano ang definition?
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Sige na, pumunta na tayo sa unwillingness
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kung gusto nating pag-usapan,
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although sinasabi ko it's not even an issue.
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Anong definition ng Article 17,
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Unwillingness is,
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the proceedings are being undertaken
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was made for the purpose of
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shielding the person concerned
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from criminal responsibility.
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Ibig sabihin, yung prosecution,
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actually, intention,
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kunyak-kunyari lang,
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but actually to shield the person.
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In that case, kahit pinuprosecute nyo,
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may jurisdiction kami,
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you're actually trying to shield him.
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Or, look at Letter B,
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sa Paragraph B, Mr. Chair.
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There has been an unjustified delay in the proceedings.
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Hindi ba delay yun?
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2017, 2018 pa na,
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2023 na, wala pang kaso.
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So, that actually already shows your unwillingness
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under the definition of the Rome Statute
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which we have draft.
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We have draft that provision.
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So, we cannot now say,
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we didn't intend that.
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Kasi, you have draft it.
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the moment you're committing unjustification,
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unjustified delay in the proceedings,
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you're unwilling.
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We agreed to that.
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So, or the proceedings were not conducted
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independently or impartially.
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So, I don't see any debate at all
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on Section, on Article 17,
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on complementarity, Mr. Chair.
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Kasi, ang tanong lang naman,
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itong prosecute nyo ba yung tao,
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hindi itapos ang usapan, di ba?
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Last two slides, I think, Mr. Chair.
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Next slide, please.
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So, why does ICC have to do this?
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ICC has jurisdiction over the case in 2017-2018.
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Well, tingin namin,
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because it was President Duterte
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who was the main,
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kung baga, accused or responded then.
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Tingin namin, it's not being prosecuted.
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So, the ICC has jurisdiction.
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And then, of course, unwillingness.
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Yun na naman, naihingi ng pamilya ng biktima,
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In fact, nagpumunta sila sa amin
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noong panahon yun.
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attorney, pwede ba kami mag-file dito?
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Sabi ko, pag nag-file kayo dito against him,
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madi-dismiss ng korte yan.
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Eh, he will claim presidential immunity.
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O di, saan kami mag-file?
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So, ICC na lang muna tayo.
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Kaya nasasaktan ako
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pag binibira ang pamilya ng biktima
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ba't doon kayo pumunta?
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Ba't doon kayo dumulog?
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Eh, papa, dismiss mo yung kaso
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that's really for me
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na naghanap na nga
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ng paraan ng ustisya
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ang mga pamilya ng biktima
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tapos durug-durugin mo
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That's my opinion, Mr. Chair.
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ito na yun na nga.
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Pialiwanag niya yung mga proseso.
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yung nag-file ng kaso
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So, binigyan ng pagkakataon
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mula 27 hanggang 22
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ang Philippine government.
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Hindi naman nila pinakikialaman
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at hindi naman pinipigilan.
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Mayroong jurisdiction
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ng Philippine government
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Mag-file ng kaso.
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Eh, mukhang hindi naman po
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itaniliwanag na rin.
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Paano nga nga gagalaw
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hindi talaga gagalaw.
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Kasi ang iba pa nila,
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ang kakasuhon nila,
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Ay, ang presidente nga po
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sa ilalim ng saligang batas
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hindi pwedeng kasuhan
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hitting president,
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hindi pwedeng kasuhan
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mayroong immunity.
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Hindi siya pwedeng kasuhan
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sa ilalim ng saligang batas.
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So, yun ang dahilan.
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at doon sila nag-file ng kaso.
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Yun ang lumalabas ngayon.
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Na lagi sinisising.
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jurisdiction ng Pilipinas.
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Sayang yung ating mga batas.
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Sayang yung ating
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tayo may karapatan.
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So, ayun pala yung dahilan.
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pero hindi ginawa.
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at bigyan ng justisya
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E, paano mo kakasuhan
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sa lahat ng kaso.
19:06.5
Ayun ang mga issue.
19:13.4
sinasabi ni Col. Minaris
19:18.5
at mag-file ng kaso.
19:23.0
gusto na silang pumasok.
19:24.7
Tapos, yun na nga
19:25.3
nagkaroon po ng mahaba
19:26.4
kasi apat na oras
19:28.1
Hindi naman debate.
19:31.8
sa yung mga nag-uusap.
19:33.9
Si Sekretary Guibara
19:34.9
siya ang kinatawa ng gobyerno
19:36.7
Hindi siya naipit
19:37.3
kung hindi umamin siya.
19:39.1
hindi naman nila pinipigilan
19:40.3
ang ICC Prosecutor.
19:46.6
Pwedeng mag-imbestiga
19:47.7
ang ICC Prosecutor
19:49.2
dyan sa kaso ngayon.
19:51.8
tinanong ng mga congressman
19:53.9
na makipag-coordinate?
19:57.2
willing daw sila.
20:00.9
makipag-coordinate
20:05.5
kung papasok sila.
20:06.7
Kaya kung papasok sila
20:07.8
huwag na tayo magulat
20:09.1
pala ang nangyari.
20:11.2
Kaya nga ako tinapos
20:12.0
nakahapon yung hearing
20:16.2
Committee on Justice.
20:18.6
yung mga pro-Duterte
20:24.7
or mga ka-Duterte,
20:27.7
yung nangyari niya
20:29.6
maintindihan niya.
20:31.1
Wala tayong magagawa.
20:33.3
pipilitin kayo ng Congress
20:34.2
maniwala kayo o hindi.
20:35.4
Ang aking binabalita rito,
20:39.1
Dahil trabaho ko yun.
20:42.5
dito sa aking channel,
20:43.4
ibalita ang nangyari.
20:44.6
Yun ang nangyari.
20:46.1
At walang fake news diyan.
20:47.1
Hindi tayo katulad
20:48.3
na nagpe-fake news.
20:50.2
Kung hindi kayo naniniwala,
20:53.4
puntahan nyo yung record
20:55.5
Yung apat na oras.
20:56.4
Hindi ko naman kasi pwede
20:58.1
yung apat na oras na hearing.
21:01.1
Puntahan nyo yung hearing na yan.
21:02.9
Nakarecord naman yun
21:04.5
Nandun yung palitan
21:05.4
ng mga paliwanag.
21:06.6
Dun yung pag-amin
21:08.5
na pwedeng pumasok
21:10.4
ang ICC prosecutor
21:14.6
Although kanyang pinaninindigan
21:15.9
na inirespeto niya
21:17.9
siyempre ang Pangulo
21:18.7
kung ano ang magiging desisyon.
21:21.1
Kasi sabi ni Guevara kahapon,
21:23.2
dalawang isyo sinabi niya.
21:25.5
ng Pangulong Marcos,
21:28.2
ay yung kung tayo
21:35.0
ni Guevara on record yan.
21:37.2
para malinaw lang,
21:38.1
ang sinabi ng Pangulo,
21:39.7
aaralin ang malalim
21:41.0
ng Office of the President,
21:44.0
kukonsultahin ng lahat
21:45.6
kung dapat tayong bumalik
21:47.2
o hindi as member.
21:49.5
Tapos sinabi niya,
21:50.4
ang paninindigan ng Pangulo,
21:52.0
ayaw niyang pumasok
21:56.1
Kasi baka sinasabing
22:01.3
hindi po magkaiba.
22:02.3
Ang sinasabing aaralin
22:03.4
yung pagiging member
22:04.5
kung tayo may babalik
22:06.8
Kailangang paniniwala
22:08.5
ba mag-imbestigahin?
22:11.7
huwag natin papasukin.
22:13.8
Pero ang sinasabing ni Guevara,
22:15.5
sa kanyang pagkakaalam,
22:16.7
dahil siya ngayong abogado,
22:18.1
Solicitor General,
22:19.1
abogado ng gobyerno.
22:21.1
Yung Department of Justice
22:22.9
abogado ng taong bayan.
22:25.5
Napareho niyang pinanggalingan.
22:26.8
Nandiyan pa nga siya.
22:32.1
as Justice Secretary
22:33.5
panahon ni Duterte.
22:35.6
Solicitor General,
22:39.3
under President Marcos.
22:41.1
Magkaibang posisyon niya.
22:42.2
Para maintindihan niya.
22:44.0
sa inyo na po yan.
22:44.7
Kaya pinapaliwanag ko
22:45.7
kung saan kayo may iniwala.
22:47.5
At yan po yung nangyari.
22:50.0
At napagkasunduan kahapon
22:51.8
bago na tinapos yung hearing
22:53.0
na makikipag-coordinate sila
22:55.7
dahil mayroong counterpart
23:03.3
Inaatasa ng gobyerno
23:04.5
makipag-coordinate sa ICC.
23:06.4
So, ibig sabihin,
23:07.2
three resolutions sa Congress
23:09.0
approved na sa committee
23:13.0
Magkakaroon ng debate yan.
23:14.7
Tingnan natin kung anong mangyari.
23:16.7
counterpart resolution
23:17.5
naman doon sa kabila.
23:19.1
apat na resolusyon na yan.
23:21.2
Senate in Congress.
23:29.3
ang tawag nila dyan.
23:34.2
sa iba nating issue,
23:36.3
baka makalimutan natin
23:41.4
Kailan ba ninyo yung,
23:43.9
binabantayan ng ating
23:50.0
agresivo na rin dyan po
23:51.1
sa West Philippines.
23:51.9
Maliit na bansa yan,
23:54.6
Hindi katulad ng China,
23:58.7
problema rin pala.
24:01.7
ng mga estruktura dyan.
24:03.5
Pero binabantayan din,
24:06.8
National Security Council,
24:09.5
National Security Advisor,
24:11.8
Department of National Defense
24:13.9
Forces of the Philippines.
24:17.8
ng dalawang bansang ito
24:20.9
sa West Philippines.
24:23.3
pinababayaan yan.
24:33.8
China dun po sa ano?
24:38.5
at saka ng Australia.
24:40.3
naisahan sila ro.
24:42.3
Australian government
24:43.9
Philippine Air Force
24:46.6
na dumikot-ikot dyan.
24:48.0
Ang problema dyan sa China,
24:48.9
kaya sila nagagalit,
24:50.1
eh hindi nila matanggap
24:52.9
yung West Philippines.
24:55.2
gawin ng Pilipinas
24:58.7
wala sila magagawa.
24:59.9
Inang ayaw na ayaw
25:13.3
Kasi ang ginagawa
25:14.7
ng gobyerno nila,
25:16.8
kanilang mga mamamayan,
25:23.3
kanilang ginagawa.
25:45.5
na si Xi Jinping.
25:53.8
ang mga mamamayan
26:48.0
tapang at talino,
27:04.3
Defense Secretary.
27:15.7
Chinese government
27:28.7
Dahil mas maraming
28:40.3
nakikipag-ugnayan
30:08.0
kasi hindi yata nila alam
30:15.5
yung kailang mga galaw
30:16.3
talagang hindi pepede ako dun
30:19.3
ang may prinsipyo dun
30:21.2
ang prinsipyo ko dun
30:26.6
kasi hindi ko gusto
30:27.6
yung kailang binagawa
30:28.4
lalo na yung kailang
30:32.7
nakita mo yung stand nila
30:33.6
pakinggan nyo sila
30:40.9
ang galaw ng lahat
30:41.7
ng mga program dyan
30:43.8
yung mga pro-China
30:50.7
pero ako hindi ako
30:51.2
huwag lang yung monitor
30:52.9
sabi ng kongreso eh
30:57.7
hindi trabaho ng media yan
31:03.3
kasi ang frequency
31:07.2
privilegio lang yan
31:15.1
kalabang ka ng Estado
31:16.2
pag kinampihan mo yung
31:20.0
sa national security
31:21.7
malaking problema yan
31:25.7
kapag kagukinawa yan
31:26.9
pwede kayong tanggalan
31:29.1
kasi threat sa national security
31:31.5
ba't yung kakampihan
31:35.8
o yung tungkol sa ICC
31:38.4
syempre maraming magagalit
31:40.0
kasi may mga sarado
31:41.6
kakaunti naman yun
31:44.2
bakit ayaw nyo sa ICC?
31:46.7
pero bakit hindi kayo
31:48.0
nagigilty sa inyong sarili
31:53.2
sa teritoryo natin
31:59.2
ang ginagawa ng China
32:01.3
anong klaseng pag-iisip yan?
32:06.7
nagsasabi ng totoo
32:09.2
wala akong paalam
32:12.2
ang channel na ito
32:16.3
and YouTube channel
32:26.0
hindi sa ilang tao
32:27.6
hindi sa isang pamilya
32:31.5
kung anong dahilan
32:32.3
kung bakit gano'n sila
32:34.9
bakit kayo gano'n?
32:37.6
pero pabor na pabor
32:40.5
o baka yung ginagawa
32:42.1
paborhan din ninyo
32:43.3
anong klaseng pag-iisip yan?
33:01.9
bigyan ng justisya
33:23.2
bigyan ng mustisya
33:25.7
sa hearing kahapon
33:35.8
pinagbigyan pala ng ICC
33:37.3
hindi tayo nag-imbestiga
33:38.4
so tapos na yung ilang taon
33:40.1
sila naman ang gusto
33:41.4
hinaharap nung iba
33:44.1
tinatanong ko lang ulit
33:49.4
ngayon magagalit kayo
33:50.4
baka iba naman sabihin nyo
33:51.7
ang sabi ni Gibara
33:55.8
pwedeng mag-imbestiga
33:57.5
yan ang lumabas sa hearing
33:58.7
kung hindi nyo alam
33:59.8
punta nyo yung hearing kahapon
34:05.6
ang public hearing kahapon
34:09.9
over time na tayo
34:16.0
save the Philippines
34:19.1
ang kaisipan ng mga Pilipino
34:20.5
na sana yung magkaisa
34:22.6
para sa nakakarami
34:24.0
magkaisa para sa bansa
34:27.3
para sa iisang grupo lang
34:29.7
o para sa kanilang
34:31.1
personal and political interest lang
34:37.1
para sa mamamayan
34:47.6
see you this afternoon
