00:17.5
Nag-back out na tong reporter natin.
00:19.7
Sir Mark Gamboa, andyan mo pa kayo?
00:23.6
kapon, andyan ka sa franchise
00:25.6
committee. And franchise ba yan?
00:27.4
Andyan sa Philippine House of Representatives
00:29.4
kung saan pinag-usapan po
00:33.6
Ano po yung report
00:35.2
niya dyan on the ground? Mark Gamboa?
00:42.0
Ayan, na-mute ka tuloy.
00:43.8
Na-mute ka tuloy.
00:45.4
Sir Mark Gamboa, can you hear me?
00:47.6
Ano po yung nangyari kapon dun sa...
00:49.9
Naka-mute ka pa rin, bro.
00:52.3
Naka-mute ka pa rin, bro.
00:53.6
Eto, tatanggalin ko natin.
00:57.5
Mark, ba't naka-mute ka pa rin?
00:59.4
Sorry, naulog eh.
01:09.7
para sa kanilang franchise.
01:16.0
Talagang, ano, talagang
01:21.1
ng mga congressman
01:23.9
dito sa mga abogado
01:26.5
At mga host nito rin pa.
01:30.4
So, sobrang intense.
01:31.6
Sobrang talagang galit na galit sila.
01:33.9
Talagang umabot sa point na ano,
01:36.5
may isang congressman na sinabi
01:38.1
na kung kaya niyong patunayan
01:40.1
yung claims na 1.8 billion
01:42.5
yung expenses ni Speaker Martin,
01:45.8
magre-resign ako.
01:48.2
Pero, pag hindi nyo mapatunayan,
01:51.2
eh, yung franchise nyo,
01:53.8
May mga ganong threats na kahapon.
01:56.1
Ganyan na kagat. Hammers down.
01:59.9
Tapos, nung nagsasalita si Ka-Erik,
02:02.5
yung kasama ni Lorraine Badoy,
02:04.1
so magkasama silang dalawa.
02:06.1
So, yung the congressman were
02:12.0
sino ba yung source mo?
02:13.4
Saan mo nakuha yung 1.8 billion
02:15.7
na figure na yun daw yung ginastos
02:18.5
nila Speaker Martin?
02:20.6
Ayaw magsalita nitong si Ka-Erik.
02:23.7
So, nakakakontempt.
02:27.6
Talagang napahal.
02:32.5
baka you undermine your own case,
02:34.6
mag-self-incriminate.
02:35.5
You don't talk, makontempt ka.
02:37.5
Tapos, pinapakano?
02:39.3
Ano na, all-in na.
02:40.4
Either mag-aalis kayo sa negosyong to
02:42.9
or ipaprove niya na kami ang may ginawang kalokohan dito.
02:47.9
Hindi lang intense.
02:48.9
Hostile yung questioning.
02:50.5
Hostile. Hostile is the right word.
02:53.3
I remember this ito pa.
02:55.0
Meron yung abogado ng SMNI.
02:57.4
Nagsasalita na we are just doing our job as journalists,
03:05.9
trying to uphold journalistic freedom,
03:08.7
hindi dapat yung mga rights ng mga journalists.
03:14.1
So, may mga sinasabi siyang ganon,
03:15.8
biglang sumagot yung isang congressman.
03:18.1
So, are you trying to lecture us?
03:20.5
Kung ano ba yung dapat?
03:23.0
Wala talagang panalo.
03:24.3
Wala kang panalo dyan.
03:27.2
Wala kang panalo doon.
03:30.1
So, talagang ano, talagang,
03:32.6
it was very entertaining to say the least.
03:36.2
Pero if ikaw yung nasa hot seat,
03:39.2
So, Mark, meron kang video doon?
03:40.7
Nung na-video mo,
03:41.7
allowed ba kayo to video the exchanges?
03:43.7
Yes, we are allowed to take videos naman.
03:47.4
Pero nasa'yo naman yan,
03:48.6
naka-upload naman yan sa mga pages ng congress.
03:52.4
Kaya nga Richard,
03:53.2
nung cabinet secretary ako,
03:54.9
hindi ako pinapadalo ng budget.
03:57.2
Hindi ako pinapadalo ng budget hearing eh.
03:59.2
Hindi ako pinapadalo ni Ochoa at Rene Almendras.
04:02.2
Dahil pag pinastos tayo sa budget hearing,
04:05.2
kaya kasi yung pagkakataon eh,
04:06.2
ng mga congressman at senador na i-bully kayo, diba?
04:09.2
Eh ako naman, hindi naman ako sanay na i-bully.
04:12.2
Pag binully ako, I will bully pa.
04:14.2
So, sabi ni Ochoa at Rene Almendras sa akin,
04:18.2
wag ka na humarap.
04:20.2
Wag ka na humarap.
04:22.2
Nag-meltdown ka ba?
04:23.2
Nag-meltdown ka ba, Ronald?
04:27.2
Ang budget ng office niyo, diba?
04:29.2
Kaya yung pinakapitre?
04:30.2
Pero may mga senador at kongresista,
04:32.2
tinatanong si Ochoa,
04:36.2
Bakit wala siya dito?
04:38.2
So sinabihan ako ni Ochoa,
04:40.2
tsaka ni Rene Almendras.
04:41.2
Sabi ko, mga bossing,
04:43.2
wala akong problema ang humarap.
04:45.2
Pero pag binastos ako,
04:47.2
babastusigil ko rin sila.
04:49.2
Sabi ni Ochoa, wag ka na dumalo.
04:54.2
Hindi ka pwede magiging abogado na imbesig yun.
04:56.2
Wala akong sinasabi.
04:58.2
Wala akong sinasabi.
04:59.2
Wala akong sinasabi na alam ko kung nasa inyo
05:00.2
kanila mga boyfriend at girlfriend.
05:04.2
Pero pag nagkapitpitan,
05:07.2
baka may lumabas.
05:09.2
Hindi ko sinasabing may lalabas.
05:14.2
Alam mo naman, laki tayo sa U-belt.
05:17.2
Pag binato tayo ng pillbox,
05:19.2
baka binato tayo ng mola to.
05:22.2
So, Sir Ronald, agree ka nun sa sinabi ni Digong nun na...
05:25.2
Huwag niyong bastusin yung mga cabinet members ko.
05:28.2
Di ba pinagalitan ni Digong?
05:30.2
Commission on Appointments ba yan?
05:32.2
Di ba may time na nagwala rin si Digong na huwag niyong bastusin yung mga cabinet?
05:36.2
Mahirap lang kung galing...
05:38.2
Mahirap lang kung galing kay Digong dahil siya yung hari ng kabastusan.
05:43.2
Kaya nawawala ng...
05:44.2
Dapat lang daw isa lang.
05:47.2
Isa lang pwedeng ano.
05:50.2
Ito, Sir Ronald, bago tayo babalik kay Mark,
05:53.2
kasi I wanna get the most out of you.
05:54.2
I wanna get the most out of Mark habang andun pa siya,
05:56.2
nag-Maharlika-style life from parking lot pa siya.
06:00.2
Sir Ronald, itong nangyayari sa SMN 9 ngayon na clearly talagang going after,
06:07.2
you know, the leadership of the Congress, etc.
06:10.2
Ano to? May pakasuicidal na ba ito?
06:14.2
Digging their own grave na ba?
06:16.2
This is declaration of war na ba?
06:18.2
What's going on there?
06:19.2
Or this is still attrition warfare sa tingin mo?
06:22.2
May sense of entitlement.
06:23.2
May sense of entitlement sila eh.
06:26.2
Dahil ang tagal nila na ang tingin nila sa kapangyarihan sila,
06:28.2
they can't do nothing wrong, no?
06:30.2
Hanggang ngayon ay ganun pa rin ang pagtingin nila sa sarili nila.
06:33.2
Hindi nila nakita yung writing on the wall as early as this year.
06:37.2
Paano as early as this year, no?
06:40.2
Early this year, tinanggal na sila sa kung ano eh.
06:43.2
Tinanggal na sila sa Facebook eh.
06:46.2
At kalina, nag may podcast ako sa US, sabi ng mga tiga US,
06:51.2
nag-rally sila sa Facebook para tanggalin yung SMNI,
06:58.2
dahil puro fake news na lumalabas.
07:00.2
Sa Silicon Valley?
07:03.2
At nangyari yun, tinanggal sila.
07:05.2
Ang ginawa nila, bumalik sila, binago lang nila yung pangalan.
07:09.2
Binago nila yung pangalan para makabalik sila sa Facebook.
07:12.2
Ganun kasi yung style dyan eh.
07:14.2
Bababuhin mo yung pangalan mo para makabalik ka.
07:21.2
Pero yan, marunong na din sila Facebook.
07:23.2
Kumaka natin case na dun eh.
07:27.2
Ganun. Ganun ang ginawa nila.
07:29.2
Sir Ronald, tanong ko lang ha.
07:31.2
Sige, Mark. Balik mo lang ako sa iyo, Mark.
07:36.2
Bago ako babalik kay Ronald.
07:37.2
Mark, habang nandyan ka pa.
07:38.2
Ang question ko, Mark, is
07:40.2
do you have a sense na yung nakita mong circus,
07:44.2
let's just call it what it is, dun sa hearing na yan,
07:46.2
kasi almost interrogation na niyan.
07:49.2
Do you think na may, hindi lang posibilidad,
07:52.2
pero may probability na they will go for the jugular,
07:55.2
meaning yung prangkisa mismo ng SMNI could be up for question na ngayon?
07:59.2
Do you think they might go that far?
08:01.2
Or magaling yung mga abogado ng SMNI to essentially let the dust settle a bit?
08:07.2
I know it's a hard prognostication.
08:11.2
Pero kung tataya ka ngayon, sa tingin mo may posibilidad or probability that even?
08:16.2
Na yung prangkisa.
08:17.2
Hindi lang posibilidad.
08:19.2
Mataas yung possibility na maalisan talaga ng prangkisa yung SMNI.
08:25.2
Mukhang galat yung mga congressman eh.
08:27.2
Sa gano'ng sitwasyon, alam nyo din yan.
08:30.2
Alam din naman ni Sir Yant na
08:32.2
minsan kahit anong sabihin mo eh.
08:35.2
Yung nga, pag binubuli ka na ng mga congressman, wala kang panalo eh.
08:38.2
And it brings me back.
08:40.2
It brings me back doon sa ABS-CBN.
08:50.2
Kung paano na-handle nyo sa ABS-CBN, kahit anong paliwanag mo na hindi,
08:56.2
yung sa BIR, bayad lahat yan.
08:58.2
Yung sa ano, maayos lahat yan.
09:03.2
Parang formality lang na you get to air your side.
09:06.2
At the end of the day, kapag galit sa'yo yung mga congressman, if they have the numbers,
09:11.2
you will lose your franchise.
09:14.2
ako personally, parang hindi din okay naman sa'kin na,
09:19.2
in the same way na ayoko nung nangyari sa ABS-CBN,
09:22.2
parang hindi din maganda na nawe-weaponize minsan itong mga franchise kapag ayaw sumunod, kapag hindi ko gusto.
09:28.2
I feel like news stations have the right para i-air eh yung ano nila.
09:34.2
Meron naman tayong mga cyber libel laws kung talagang sumusobra na.
09:38.2
Parang nawe-weaponize kasi itong pagdating sa franchise.
09:42.2
Pero yun na eh, it is what it is eh.
09:46.2
Kumbaga, double-edged sword yan eh.
09:49.2
Diba? Yung pwede mong gamitin sa…
09:50.2
Oo, parang the genie's out na. Diba, Mark? Parang after what happened sa ABS-CBN, wala na. May precedence na eh.
09:56.2
Medyo across the line na eh.
09:59.2
Kaya nga poetic justice eh. Diba?
10:03.2
Ikaw, Sir Ronald, anong basa mo dyan? Do you think this is shot across the bow or this is talagang go for jugular na ito?
10:11.2
Sabi nga ng lolo ko, Richard, Mark, no? When it rains, it pours. Diba? Tuloy-tuloy na yan, no?
10:20.2
Diba? At hindi lang yan isolated. Konektado yan sa ibang political targets. Diba?
10:29.2
Pero ito nga, poetic justice. Dahil nung sila yun nasa kapangyarihan, ginawa rin nila yan with impunity. Diba?
10:36.2
Ginawa nila yan sa ABS-CBN.
10:39.2
Isang legitimate media na talagang nanalo ng legitimate awards, hindi nagsasama.
10:46.2
Just to be clear, hindi the same level yung dalawa na yan. Okay.
10:49.2
Oo. Pero ginawa pa rin nila. Kaya ulit-ulitin ko, poetic justice. No?
10:55.2
Dahil yan ang ginawa nila kay Chief Justice Sereno, Cuaranto, no?
11:00.2
Kay Laila de Lima, et cetera. Diba? So, konektado yung offensive na yan. No?
11:09.2
Na sila naman ang nasa target, nasa firing range.
11:16.2
Kaya hindi ako masyadong naiiyak, Mark, sa nangyayari sa kanila, no? Hindi ako masyadong naiiyak, Richard.
11:21.2
Hindi ako naiiyak sa tawa.
11:22.2
Baka mas naiiyak pa ako doon sa love life ni Richard.
11:25.2
Ayan na naman tayo. Alam ko ikaw ang gusto mong pag-uusapan. Nagpa-project ka na naman sa akin.
11:31.2
Sir Mark, bago ako mapalik kay Boy Hugot dito.
11:38.2
Sama natin to. I mean, Mark, how should I put it? I mean, is there a possibility? Kasi yung isang kritisismo is, kung mawala yung franchise ng SMNI, baka pwede bumalik ang ABS-CBN, but through partnership with some people. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's like, you know, obviously, diba? There's a possibility na pwede bumalik ang ABS-CBN, diba? I mean, isn't that a discussion?
12:06.2
If mawala yung SMNI, yung kanilang franchise will be available, will be for sale. In the same way na binili yung franchise ng ABS-CBN nila Villar, diba? I don't see anything stopping ABS-CBN from trying to acquire yung franchise ni SMNI. Diba? So, posible talaga yun. That's in the realm of possibility talaga.
12:31.3
Is this being openly discussed by the bloggers? I mean, of course, Mark, ikaw yung original na blogger.
12:36.2
Can you tell us a little bit about the discussion? Mga kaibigan natin dyan, mga Banat Boy, Banat Bay, Maharlika. I mean, kasi si Maharlika, diba, nag-live siya two nights ago na eto na, eto na yung parang coup plot almost laban sa SMNI because ang argument niya, galing din siya sa parking lot katulad mo, ang argument niya is because SMNI is the platform for Digong. So, that's their original sin daw. This is not really about this report and all of that.
13:02.2
At nagahanap lang daw ng excuse to shut down SMNI. Of course, very conveniently, if you nor get all of the issues with red-tagging and hysteria, bati si Mayor Magalog nagalit sa kanila at some point. Doon sa mga kwesyonable na nilang people. I mean, what is your read on this? Nagwawala na rin ba? May marching order na ba sa mga big bloggers na pro-Digong? Because SMNI is one of their amplifiers, diba? It's one of their big platforms sa mainstream media or whatever media you can call that.
13:29.4
Now more than ever, kasi sa politics ngayon ako nag-a-active ulit, matagal ako nagpahinga. Pero now more than ever, yung mga unit team na bloggers, they are starting to choose a side na. So, wala na masyadong nasa gitna eh. It's either you stay loyal to the admin or nandun ka na sa side ng SMNI, Duterte, anti-ICC.
13:56.5
So, you have to choose na.
13:59.4
Ganun na nangyayari. Hindi na pwedeng nasa gitna. So, yung panahon ngayon, now is the time talaga na nagtitilian na ng side. Kaya medyo magulo yung nangyayari ngayon pagdating sa blogging.
14:12.6
Si Mahalika, she's doing well. And the thing is, that's the only advantage na meron ng DBS sa ngayon, ang mga Duterte, is yung kanilang blogging, yung kanilang social media, they're still the best at it eh.
14:27.1
Are they at the best at it or meron silang first movers advantage? Because Mark, they were there active 6-7 years ago, right? Years ahead of you, many years ahead of me. So, feeling ko, not necessarily because they're the best, but because they really built the machinery nung 6 years ago.
14:44.2
But are they still strong?
14:45.5
You could say the same thing to the Marcoses. Kasi mga Marcoses, matagal din naman na pe-prepare for this, di ba? Pero mas active, mas maingay, mas passionate.
14:57.1
I could say, mas passionate. Yung mga DBS. And that is the thing that siguro gives them confidence na kakayanin ko to kahit admin yung kalaban ko.
15:06.1
So, yun yung tumatagbo siguro sa isip. Tama ba yung gano'n na may confidence ka because of that? Will that be able to do anything? Hindi ko alam.
15:13.6
Pero yun eh, it's the same na pati sa issue sa ICC that we'll talk about later.
15:19.5
Pero Mark, nahati din sila, di ba? Nahati din yung mga DBS na yan.
15:27.1
Yung mga nga nag-BBTM, di ba? Katulad ni Tinking Pinoy, di ba? Hindi gano'ng kalaki yung umalis. Pero merong umalis. May naka-BIAC sa kanila, di ba?
15:37.8
Tapos, katulad nga sabi ni Richard, may mga bago rin na players.
15:43.6
Yung mga kay DBS, maraming intact. Siyempre may mga paisa-isa na tatalon, may paisa-isa na lilipat ng kampo for whatever reason.
15:54.4
Pero for the most part, yung mga ban at buy, yung mga die-hard na mga DBS talaga, sasot, nag-mobilize, nag-prepare na for civil war.
16:13.0
Baka may budget galing China. Talong lang yun ah, talong lang yun ah, hindi yun na conclusion ah. Talong lang. Baka may tumutin yun na super power.
16:22.3
Ronald, ikaw na lang paamak natin.
16:24.4
Maingat yan si Mark Amboa.
16:26.5
Talong lang yun eh, talong lang eh.
16:29.2
But Ronald, what about the aspect na sasabihin nila? Di ba? Kasi yung radio ng ABCVN, dati di ba may partnership dun sa Romualdez Media or something?
16:37.9
So, some are saying, yeah exactly. So, some are saying, maybe this whole SMNI episode is just a springboard para eto na, yung new partnership na aakyat, Romualdez-ABS-CBN.
16:48.6
Come back and take it. Yun ang sinasabi. Anong basa ko dyan?
16:51.7
Pero una Richard, yung di kasing laki ng ABS-CBN.
16:55.7
Ikalawa, merong notoriety yung SMNI na wala yung ABS-CBN.
17:00.7
So, baka apples and oranges eh. Baka magkaiba eh.
17:04.7
Limawa, kung investo, mag-i-invest ba ako sa SMNI?
17:08.7
Or, kukuling ko ba sila as a partner?
17:11.8
Di ba? May iba't ibang permutations yan eh.
17:15.2
Pero offhand, magdadalawang isip yung mga investors.
17:19.4
Dahil iba yung ABS-CBN, iba yung SMNI.
17:24.4
I mean, it's getting the franchise, right?
17:26.0
I mean, it's getting, yung franchise, it's ang issue dito eh.
17:28.3
Technicality, logistics, di ba?
17:29.6
Ikaw, Mark, anong basa mo dyan?
17:31.3
Kasi yun yung, okay, yun nga.
17:33.6
Good point to you, Richard eh.
17:35.0
Kasi, isipin mo yung number one radio station dati ng ABS-CBN,
17:42.1
ngayon, kalahate is owned na by Speaker Martin's family, di ba?
17:48.7
What's stopping na ganun din yung mangyari
17:50.7
sa pag nawala yung franchise ng SMNI,
17:54.4
it will be available for sale,
17:56.9
na kukunin din ng isang company na connected
17:59.6
kaya speaker, kasi he's building a media powerhouse na eh.
18:04.3
Ang laki nung kanyang reach na ngayon sa kanyang stations eh.
18:07.5
Eh kung ABS-CBN pa, di ba?
18:09.8
Really? I didn't know that, Mark.
18:11.4
Can you tell me a little bit about it?
18:12.7
Kaya ni Ronald, I was not,
18:14.3
hindi ko alam gano'ng kalakas yung media machine nila, Romualdo.
18:17.6
Can you tell us a little bit?
18:18.5
Malaki eh. Sa radio, malaki.
18:20.6
Malakas na, malakas na.
18:22.6
Ano ang station do they have, mga seven?
18:25.3
Oh, wow. Malakas na ng operation niya, no?
18:28.9
Mga local, local radios.
18:32.9
Kaya malakas pa rin ang radio, lalas sa provincia.
18:36.2
Ang daming tele-radio ngayon eh.
18:38.0
No? Nanganganak ko rin, puro tele-radio eh, no?
18:40.6
Ang hindi ko lang sigurado, Mark,
18:42.3
paano yung mga blabbers na DDS,
18:45.0
hindi naman sila nakatali automatically sa SMNI eh.
18:48.0
Independent naman sila, di ba?
18:50.2
So, ibang-ibang klaseng relasyon yung gagawin
18:54.4
Dito sa mga blabbers, di ba?
18:58.8
Which means peace with Digong.
19:00.5
Kung anong sabihin ni Digong, kung saan ano.
19:02.5
And ang malaking factor din dyan nga,
19:04.8
is dahil yung support base ni Digong
19:07.7
is still very much, ah, malaki pa rin.
19:11.4
Yung mga nanunood ng pro-Digong na videos.
19:14.4
Oh, Vizmin, Solid South.
19:16.0
Oh, Vizmin, Solid South.
19:18.7
Nationwide, yung appeal ni Digong is still there.
19:22.3
Kasi, the same way na,
19:24.4
na nangyari nung sa franchise ng ABS-CBN dati,
19:27.8
lumabas sila lahat.
19:29.6
Ngayon, lumalabas na din sila uli eh.
19:32.6
May karisma yung si Tatay Digong eh.
19:37.5
And kaya, lalabas yan.
19:42.0
And, yun nga, the administration,
19:44.3
ah, needs to be prepared din on that side.
19:47.6
Although, yun nga, hindi ko alam.
19:48.6
Hanggang makaingay lang social media.
19:50.6
Kasi, antagal pa ni PBBM.
19:53.6
For an half year.
19:54.4
He's still in power.
19:57.3
he still has to make the decision.
19:58.2
Kahit ingay na ingay sila,
19:59.6
Tatay Harry Roque eh.
20:01.4
Kaya, let's talk about your favorite guy,
20:04.4
Kung sakali makuha ng ICC si Digong,
20:06.1
Hindi na siya makakapag-radio.
20:08.2
Kung sakali makuha ng ICC,
20:10.0
O, next episode na natin yan,
20:12.4
Bago tayo mag next episode,
20:13.7
ICC Perfect Segwine.
20:15.0
Let's talk about the most important person
20:17.1
in Mark Gamboa's universe,
20:19.5
Attorney Harry Roque.
20:21.4
Anong basa mo sa kanyang mga hanash?
20:23.5
Yung mga latest hanash niya.
20:26.8
He's got a main...
20:27.9
He's got a main expression.
20:31.0
Siyempre, he's the main, ano,
20:32.6
he's the main, ah,
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defender ng SMNI,
20:37.2
being also a host sa SMNI.
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And Harry Roque is,
20:43.5
he's the presidential spokesperson of Digong
20:45.7
for a reason, eh.
20:49.2
if tumagal ka ng ganun kay Digong,
20:50.9
lahat mong mga ginawa ni Digong,
20:54.1
he's good at what he does.
20:57.7
ah, all out support siya sa SMNI,
20:59.9
ah, defending yung, yung station.
21:02.2
Lalo na, he's part of that station.
21:04.4
So, meron sariling vlog si Harry,
21:08.3
yan, and siyempre,
21:09.0
pinapanood siya ng mga DDS na faithful
21:11.2
tungkol dito, and
21:12.9
all of them are leading towards, ano,
21:17.5
Ang problema lang, Mark,
21:19.2
ang problema lang, Mark, ni Harry,
21:23.5
Kaya, hindi nag-grab on sa kanya
21:26.0
yung, ah, Duterte Magic,
21:33.6
kay Francis Tolentino,
21:35.5
at saka kay Pato.
21:37.1
Dahil, ah, hindi siya nanalo
21:38.9
na tumakot siya sa Senate.
21:40.9
Kalawa, hindi nakatulong yung, ah,
21:43.7
yung kanyang pagiging spokesperson ni Digong
21:45.8
kay Vice President Sara Duterte.
21:48.5
Patuloy pa rin bumaba si Sara Duterte
21:51.9
kahit ang main defender,
21:53.3
hindi na nalang, hindi na nalang,
21:53.4
niya ay si Harry Roque.
21:55.4
So, magkaiba yung teflon
21:57.0
ng tatay doon sa anak.
21:59.8
At hindi nakatulong si Panelo
22:01.7
at saka si Harry Roque
22:03.0
na, na mapigilan yung pagbagsak.
22:07.4
babagsak sa next survey pa ulit.
22:10.0
Pero, Ron, I think, Mark,
22:11.6
in defense of Mark, is that,
22:13.0
given what Digong is,
22:14.7
this is the best legal defense
22:17.0
or spokesmanship you can do.
22:18.5
Diba? I think that's your point, Mark.
22:19.9
It's not necessarily that
22:21.3
galing-galing talaga ni Harry.
22:23.4
given what you got with Digong,
22:25.6
this is the best in-doctor game
22:28.1
Parang ganun, diba, ang point mo?
22:32.2
ganun nga yung nasasabi ko.
22:34.1
And si Tatay Harry siguro,
22:39.4
si Sara will win.
22:40.3
mati si Harry patay ka lang.
22:44.9
he may not be able to win
22:49.2
by, by some chance,
22:50.7
becomes president,
22:52.8
he's the Sara loyalist.
22:55.5
Siya yung nandun talaga na.
22:59.2
kahit saan nandun si Sara,
23:03.2
At sabi nga niya,
23:04.2
kung pinakataya niya,
23:07.2
yung tandem ng Sara-Amy,
23:09.2
yan ay mga babae na may bayag.
23:12.1
Yan ang sabi niya, no?
23:13.7
Guys, guys, guys, guys.
23:16.2
na-earth na sabi niya mga supporters
23:18.1
ni Sal, Sal, Salpanel,
23:22.3
attention si Panelo.
23:24.5
Na-earth na daw si
23:27.6
Matagal din naman siyang
23:28.8
spokesman niya, no?
23:30.1
Alright, alright, okay.
23:31.0
I think you set the tone perfectly
23:32.2
for next episode,
23:34.3
one of the persons
23:35.6
that BBM actually consulted
23:38.3
on the ICC question was
23:43.0
otherwise known as
23:44.0
ex-human rights lawyer.
23:45.2
So he's still influential.
23:46.7
He's still the leading voice
23:47.8
defending the previous administration
23:50.4
that leftist of that voice is.
23:53.1
current state institution.
23:54.4
Thank you so much for that,
23:56.4
next episode from now.
