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MARCOS’ MINDANAO CRISIS: RETURN of ISIS!???
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00:00.0
Pagdating sa Pilipinas, of course, it's not just the communist insurgency which has been really a major national security problem, but the other one is extremism, religious extremism and terrorism.
00:13.0
Now, it looks like based on the reports we're seeing, is it ISIS, Daesh, which is claiming to be responsible behind the latest terrorist attack na nangyari sa Marawi?
00:28.5
If I'm not saying this is Marawi State University area ba yan? Ronald, what do you think about this? Because I thought Digong was so good that he banks Amoro and he fixed everything, etc. But I mean, do you think this is, how should I put it?
00:45.1
May kinalaman ba ito dun sa kapalpakan ng dating administration when it comes to reconstruction of Marawi? Because yung center ng Marawi, when it was there in 2019, totally nothing fixed. Two years after Duterta promised to make Marawi beautiful again.
00:58.5
Basta sa reports ng mga Mindanao friends ko, as in recently, not much also changed. To what degree is this terrorist attack, assuming it is really associated by religious extremist groups, to what degree is this a result of the failure of the previous administration to make Marawi beautiful again? And ironically for our president, who's the favorite son of Mindanao, right?
01:21.6
Very complicated kasi itong Mindanao, as you well know, Richard. Di ba?
01:28.5
Baka hindi lang ito isang possible source. Hindi lang yung Marawi. Marami kasing nangyayari at the same time.
01:37.0
Halimbawa, before the attack, 11 BIFF ang namatay just a few days before in a military offensive. Tapos meron din tayong yung binabanggit mo, may mga disenchantment, reklamo tungkol sa handling nung Marawi.
01:58.5
Meron din mga nag-agitate within the MILF who now controls the BARM sa mga bata na yung promise o yung mga commitments ng BARM ay hindi na-achieve para dun sa mga mas maliliit na mga mamamayan ng BARM.
02:18.4
So may nag-agitate even against their own leadership. Yan ay mapupulot mo kung saan saan. Tapos meron din, pinag-uusapan natin sa isang episode,
02:28.5
meron din mga pangyayari sa National Center of Power na possible rin na gamitin. Gamitin itong mga pangyayari sa Mindanao for their own political national objectives.
02:45.4
So ang dami yan. Nag-intersect, nag-interact itong mga developments na ito.
02:53.2
Ang lumalabas ay yung suspect dito.
02:58.5
Ay isang dating maute sub-commander, si Katab. Dati siyang maute sub-commander na nahuli dati pero suspiciously, strangely, ay pinakawalan.
03:13.2
E napaka-init ng maute nun. Ba't yung papakawalan ng isang sub-commander, itong si Katab? Siya yung parang ina-identify dito.
03:21.4
Pero ang nag-claim ay yung bagong pangalan ng ISIS dito sa Mindanao.
03:28.5
Parang bahagi ay revenge dun sa mga pinatay na BIFF na hindi naman formally kasama sa maute or sa ISIS.
03:37.6
So ito ay iba't ibang grupo na parang merong coordination o merong intersection.
03:44.9
Sa bagay, isang mindanao naman, yung iba, member ng Abu Sayyaf, former member ng MLF, former member ng MILF, bahagi ng itong...
03:55.6
Yes, splinter.
03:57.1
Yes, splinter.
03:58.5
Nag-halo-halo minsan.
04:00.8
Ekos-ekos.
04:01.6
Ayaw natin na ito ay magmukha na namang religious war between Christians and Muslims. Kahit may nag-create ng gano'ng klaseng condition.
04:13.1
Dahil ang binomba, misa eh. So malinaw yung objective eh. Pero baka may mga ibang objectives na hindi ko naman sinasabi na may basis.
04:25.7
Pero may kaunting question mark.
04:28.5
Itong suspect sa bombing, si Katab. This is ang maute na nahuli. Hanggang ngayon hindi ko alam pa'nong nakawala. Tumakas ba? Pinakawalan ba?
04:38.8
Kailan ba pinakawala?
04:39.5
Noong panahon ng previous government. Noong panahon ng Duterte government.
04:43.9
That's my point.
04:44.9
Kung nahuli yan, bakit siya nakawala? Pinakawalan ba siya? Nakatakas ba siya? Medyo may question mark. Hindi ko yan dinidikit sa kahit ano.
04:54.1
We're just saying legitimate question mark.
04:56.6
Hindi ko nakakalak.
04:58.5
Yung mga nakakaalam sa mga pangyayari, yung kilala ito, mga taong ito, ay nagtatanong lang.
05:04.7
Nagtatanong lang.
05:05.2
Kaya nga lang, mga kapiling.
05:07.4
Pakavyat, kavyat.
05:08.4
But just to say, on the record, ito pa yung position na ating awareness.
05:12.1
So, ayon kay the Armed Forces Chief Romeo Bronner, sabi na it is possible that what happened this morning was a retaliatory attack, referring to the attack over the weekend, dun sa pagpatay ng isang Daula Islamia.
05:28.5
So, yung mga magsasabi ng isang leader.
05:29.1
Pero Richard, yung mga revenge attack na yan, hindi yan gano'ng kabilis eh.
05:34.6
Just a few days.
05:36.9
Lalo na kung ibang grupo ang mag-implement.
05:40.0
Hindi siya gano'ng kabilis.
05:41.0
Ilang naman yung tanong ko.
05:42.0
Pwede yung gano'ng kabilis.
05:43.4
Pero usually, hindi ganyang kabilis.
05:45.6
Dahil maghahanda ka, i-casing mo yung lugar.
05:49.5
Titignan mo yung best targets.
05:51.3
I-casing mo saan ka makakatakas, saan ka aatras.
05:54.4
Anong klaseng bomba yung gagamitin mo?
05:57.8
Na hindi...
05:58.5
forensically mako-connect yung
06:00.7
signature. Alimbawa, in this case,
06:02.7
ang ginamit ay isang 60mm
06:04.3
na usually gamit
06:06.1
at isang RPG.
06:09.3
Dinikit siya at nilagay
06:10.6
sa isang bag
06:12.2
or something at sumabog.
06:14.6
Ang strange dito, wala yung
06:16.6
usual na ginagamit for maximum
06:19.0
damage. Ito yung mga
06:20.7
big nails.
06:23.1
Ito yung mga lalaking pako
06:24.2
and other metal objects
06:26.7
na sinasama dyan. Wala yan.
06:29.4
So, yun ang medyo
06:30.8
strange. Usually, ang ginagamit ng mga
06:32.6
terorista, maximum damage.
06:34.7
Sinalagyan niya, buti naman! Hindi.
06:37.0
Bagamat nakakalungkot pa rin
06:38.6
yung mga namatay at yung
06:40.5
mga injured
06:43.1
at yung mga na-shock
06:44.6
sa pangyayari. Ang laki
06:46.5
ng damage nito na hindi
06:48.6
dapat nangyari. Pero, looking
06:50.7
at how they do it, usually
06:52.8
hindi ganyang kabilis yung mga
06:54.5
revenge attacks. Lalo na ilang araw
06:56.8
lang ang pagitan.
06:58.0
Hindi ko sinasabi na hindi.
07:00.1
Sinasabi ko lang, usually,
07:01.9
it takes some time. Dahil i-case
07:04.1
mo yung lugar, pipili ka ng
07:05.8
tatakasan, paano, magbibuild
07:08.1
ka ng team na gagawa,
07:09.8
tapos gagawin mo yung bomba.
07:11.7
Sabi ko nga, in this case, parang isang
07:13.7
60mm na dinikit sa RPG
07:16.2
without the usual name.
07:17.9
I see your, I mean like
07:19.7
that operational
07:21.6
logistical detail, what does it say about
07:23.9
preparation at saka the intention.
07:25.9
Well, Gibo Chidoro,
07:27.6
stands naman, Ronald, is
07:29.7
foreign elements were involved.
07:31.8
So, it could be Malaysian, Indonesian,
07:33.8
if not, mga Arab elements.
07:35.5
I mean, this is about whatever remnants
07:37.5
of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Daesh,
07:39.5
saying that we're still around, something like that.
07:43.1
Do you think
07:43.9
that this is more foreign than Filipino
07:45.7
maute?
07:47.5
It could be, pero nung ulang
07:49.3
in-interview si Secretary Gibo, ayaw niya
07:51.4
magbigay kaagad ng
07:52.6
conclusion. Mas circumspect
07:56.0
siya na in-investigahan pa.
07:57.6
Ang unang nagbigay,
07:59.5
yung Presidente, diba? Siya unang
08:01.5
nagsabi na ito ay terrorist act,
08:03.5
etc. So, ngayon, baka mas
08:05.4
may enough evidence sila,
08:07.5
mas enough intelligence para
08:09.1
gumawa ng mga conclusions.
08:11.2
Ako naman ay wala eh.
08:13.1
Hindi ko pinapresume na hawak
08:15.5
ko yung intelligence at saka evidence
08:17.6
na hawak ng gobyerno.
08:19.1
Akin lang naman ay mga panay.
08:21.2
Even if we had, of course, we cannot share.
08:23.5
Pero Ronald, ako kasi, the reason I'm asking
08:25.5
is, I mean, you and I have been following,
08:27.6
this is a very unfortunate
08:28.8
line of business.
08:31.6
I mean, like, you know, following all of this
08:33.5
yung strings
08:35.6
of terrorist attacks sa region,
08:37.9
sa Aten, you know, before
08:39.4
Daesh and ISIS, there was
08:41.7
Al-Qaeda and all of that. And unfortunately,
08:43.9
diba, second front talagang Southeast Asia,
08:45.8
especially Pilipinas, diba, over
08:47.6
the past decade or so. And I was hoping, kasi Ronald,
08:50.3
I was really hoping, after the
08:51.5
Bangsamora, I mean, if there's one thing good I appreciate
08:53.7
about Presidente Digong was he tried to
08:55.6
at least nudge us towards,
08:57.6
giving some basic respect and some recognition
08:59.7
of the historical injustice against our moral
09:01.5
brothers and sisters, essentially. And when I was
09:03.6
there in 2019, sa, no, actually,
09:05.3
kausap natin si, si, back
09:07.6
then, Colonel Bronner, no, before
09:09.5
he became the AFP Chief in General.
09:11.4
And, you know, there was a lot of optimism na election
09:13.4
violence were going down, that people
09:15.4
were feeling more safe. Yun lang,
09:17.5
the big problem was yung center ng
09:19.5
Marawi, ang daming problema,
09:21.9
including yung ancestral land
09:23.4
issues. So, and then there were
09:25.5
still refugees not far away.
09:27.6
Mas depressed ako dun sa developmental
09:29.5
reconstruction part. But I felt
09:31.7
in terms of overall security, we were really moving
09:33.7
in the right direction. So, ngayon ko lang
09:35.6
nag-gets nga ako nga pala na
09:37.0
maybe, you know, may natulog na naman sa
09:39.6
pansitan. But before we end
09:41.6
on this episode, because I'm gonna use this, I
09:43.6
think this episode is perfect transition for another
09:45.5
topic, no? Before we go to the question
09:47.8
of, you know, of China, West
09:49.6
Philippine Sea, kasi marami tayong pag-usapan dyan.
09:53.1
I mean,
09:54.5
ganito,
09:55.6
what I noticed, Ronald, is the
09:57.5
pro-Duterte people,
09:59.5
no? Mga empresarius na,
10:01.3
are using this crisis to say,
10:03.4
ayan pala eh, bakit kayo nagyabang-yabang
10:05.6
dyan sa China, West Philippine Sea?
10:07.9
Sobrang, ano, gulo pa sa
10:09.2
Pilipinas, unain yun. In fact,
10:11.2
yung line nung isa, diba? Yung line nung isang
10:13.2
marites dyan, sabi niya, yan kasi
10:15.4
dahil masyado tayong West Philippine Sea,
10:17.3
baka na-distract daw tayo sa mga internal
10:19.3
problems and all. You know, when in fact,
10:21.7
we should, you know, we should focus
10:23.5
on external security and our problem was
10:25.4
we never dealt with the sea. Kaya ang gulo ng line,
10:27.5
nila eh. Like, ayon ng peace negotiations
10:29.5
the communists, I don't know anong
10:31.3
solution nila sa Marawi reconstruction,
10:33.5
and ayaw rin nila na labanan
10:35.4
natin ang West. Ang gulo, I mean, I just don't see,
10:37.6
I mean, it's a ridiculous positioning that
10:39.3
some of these empresarius are making. Anong basa mo
10:41.4
dyan, diba? Na dapat si
10:43.0
BBM, huwag mo na siya mag-ambisyosa na makipaglabon
10:45.6
sa West Philippine Sea, laban sa China,
10:47.3
focus na siya dito sa mga domestic. I mean, anong basa mo dyan?
10:49.5
Obviously, we can do all of the above, but
10:51.6
you clearly see, ginagamit
10:53.8
ng any crisis, yung mga
10:55.4
kampo na yan, to say na,
10:57.5
let's be nice to China, kasi we cannot
10:59.3
afford it, kasi we're weak, kasi we're divided
11:01.5
because we have problems. And ako naman,
11:03.4
wait lang, kasalanan nyo yan, diba?
11:05.9
You had six years to make Mindanao
11:07.8
beautiful again, to make Marawi
11:09.3
beautiful again, and even before that,
11:11.6
I mean, Ronald, I don't want
11:13.5
to get into trouble with military people because I
11:15.3
don't think, I think they're patriots, they fought
11:17.2
the Maote terrorists well, but
11:19.1
still the question is, bakit nangyari nung
11:21.2
2017 Marawi crisis to begin with?
11:23.6
Because I talked to some military people and they
11:25.4
were telling me, we provided the intelligence,
11:27.5
we did our job. Ang problema yung
11:29.5
political leadership who didn't act on it
11:31.4
because remember back in the day, this is
11:33.6
2017, digong, drag-drag-drag,
11:36.1
drag-drag-drag, pupunta sa Russia,
11:37.8
Putin-Putin. Remember, this happened
11:39.7
during his visit to Russia, diba?
11:41.6
So, actually, the position of some
11:43.5
security people I talked to is that they did their
11:45.5
job, ang hindi, ang natulog sa pansita
11:47.8
na yung mga political leaders who didn't
11:49.6
act upon the actionable intelligence that
11:51.6
were provided on Maote
11:53.1
in early 2017 and 2016.
11:55.2
Can we talk about that and then go
11:57.3
towards the last part, which is,
11:59.0
we are too divided and unstable
12:01.3
to do West Philippine Sea.
12:03.9
Well,
12:05.5
ayoko siya masyadong patulan
12:07.0
dahil itong mga
12:08.6
hindi ko naunawaan ng mga argumento
12:11.4
doesn't hold a solid
12:12.9
foundation.
12:15.2
Sabi mo nga, ikaw partly sinagot mo na eh.
12:17.8
Yung mga
12:19.2
Rhetorical ko tanong ngayon,
12:21.3
binanatan ko.
12:22.7
Mga kasyong nga.
12:24.6
Pero, madali yung sagot eh.
12:27.3
Actually, ginagawa mo nga.
12:29.4
Binabalik mo sa kanila eh.
12:31.6
Halimbawa, yung billions
12:33.2
na dollars
12:35.2
na commitment ng China, saan napunta?
12:37.8
Kapalit ng inyong
12:39.1
pag-affirm ng loyalty.
12:41.9
Including Marawi Construction.
12:43.4
Including Marawi, yun ang pangangakon.
12:45.8
Isang Chinese company
12:47.3
na nag-commit dyan. Yung pala, wala naman palang
12:49.3
resources.
12:50.8
At blacklisted sa World Bank.
12:54.0
At blacklisted sa World Bank.
12:55.2
Yes.
12:55.9
Dodgy.
12:57.3
Pero, interrelated, madali yung sagutin
13:00.0
mula dun sa jet ski na
13:01.8
gagamitin mo para maglagay ng flag
13:04.2
dun sa mga contested islands, etc.
13:06.6
Pero, I doubt
13:08.3
kahit sa mga surveys
13:09.9
na gagawin, if that will hold water.
13:12.7
Itong ganitong klaseng spin.
13:14.5
Yung ganitong klaseng stretching
13:16.1
it too far.
13:18.1
Hindi ko alam kung sino yung maniniwala
13:20.2
dyan. Pero, I agree with you.
13:22.6
Mag-a-attempt sila na
13:23.8
na gamitin ito.
13:25.2
Pero, ang hirap eh.
13:27.3
Ang hirap gamitin eh.
13:29.6
If yung gumagamit
13:31.6
ay standing
13:33.5
on muddy ground.
13:36.0
Puro putik yung kanilang paa.
13:38.0
Mahirap siya gamitin.
13:40.3
May ibang problema
13:42.2
yung kasalukuyang conjuncture.
13:44.5
May ibang problema
13:45.5
yung kasalukuyang gobyerno.
13:47.3
May ibang problema yung kasalukuyang
13:49.8
mga political parties at kilusan
13:51.6
na pwedeng
13:53.8
ipaliwanag sa kasalukuyang
13:55.7
conjuncture.
13:57.3
Yun yung nakikita ko.
13:59.3
Kaya, hindi ko siya masyadong papatulan
14:00.9
dahil parang hindi lang siya hindi logical eh.
14:05.2
Masyadong stupid eh.
14:07.4
Yung mga...
14:08.0
Yung mga...
14:09.8
Oo.
14:12.3
Alam mo naman na
14:13.8
ibang-iba yung mga hugot.
14:16.3
Ibang-iba yung mga hugot.
14:17.7
Parang yung isang senator na nakalaban ko
14:20.4
several months ago
14:22.0
na sinasabi na
14:23.5
wala namang nangyaring
14:25.0
harassment.
14:27.3
Wala namang nangyaring
14:27.8
aggression.
14:30.0
Oo. Wala namang nangyaring ganyan.
14:32.1
Kayo lang ngayon. Ina-exaggerate nyo.
14:34.2
Et cetera, et cetera.
14:35.4
So, it's a big non-sequitur.
14:37.4
Na
14:37.8
pinitikula ng konti pero
14:41.2
ayoko masyadong patulan
14:42.8
dahil lumulubog siya sa sariling
14:45.2
mga
14:46.6
unfounded
14:49.0
presuppositional arguments.
14:52.1
Tingin ko yung mga nagsasabi nito
14:53.8
malilito eh.
14:55.3
Malilito sila sa sariling nilang arguments.
14:57.3
Well, I mean,
14:58.9
sabi nga ni Nietzsche,
15:03.7
choose an enemy that will
15:05.2
honor you. Yun na lang ang ating piliin.
15:08.9
Malapit na tayo
15:09.7
mag-hegel ulit. Bago tayo mag-hegel,
15:11.6
palitan na natin itong topic.
15:14.4
Please check out
15:15.4
yung interview natin with
15:16.4
Senator Rafi Tulfo. He has interesting
15:19.1
Tulfo way of putting ito sa bully.
15:21.1
What should be done with the bully sa West Philippine Sea.
15:23.3
Thank you very much
15:24.1
Secretary Ronald Llamas for that overview.
15:27.3
Of the latest. I mean, of course, we don't have the final
15:29.3
information yet. This is still a developing story.
15:32.3
But yun nga, ah, by the way, hindi mo
15:33.3
sinagot. Anong take mo dun sa Marawi?
15:35.2
Why did Marawi crisis even happen to begin
15:37.3
with? If sobrang galing si Digong, sobrang
15:39.4
matapang at lakas niyang leader,
15:41.6
bakit sa ilalim niya yung nangyaring
15:43.3
Marawi crisis? Which is
15:44.6
the worst. Parang pwede rin eh.
15:46.7
The worst terrorist attack we have ever had.
15:49.4
Diba? Parang
15:51.3
pwede rin eh. Parang yung attack sa
15:53.2
Israel ng Hamas.
15:54.4
No?
15:55.4
How can you not?
15:57.3
How can you not notice?
15:58.8
No? Yung ganitong kalaking
16:00.2
major offensive sa iyong bakuran.
16:03.5
No? How you?
16:05.2
It's a huge intelligence
16:07.0
failure. No? Ganon din yung
16:09.5
sa Marawi eh. When it started.
16:11.8
No? Dapat
16:12.7
may mga preemptive moves na eh.
16:15.5
Diba? Paano nakikita mo na yan?
16:17.5
May mga assets ka dyan, may mga
16:19.2
monitoring ka, may mga drones ka, may
16:21.1
satellite, etc. Dapat
16:23.0
dahil ay na-monitor mo na before it happened
16:25.2
para na-preempt mo.
16:27.3
As I was saying,
16:29.8
the problem that was the intelligence,
16:31.9
the problem was that distracted yung
16:33.6
presidente mo, administration niya
16:35.6
kasi purong drug war,
16:37.1
purong narkopak.
16:39.5
So, hindi binigyan na attention
16:41.4
itong mga legit na security issues,
16:43.1
including itong terorismo,
16:44.7
tunnels na binibuild nila sa Marawi, etc.
16:49.3
Tapos nangyari pa, yung mismong
16:51.4
conduct, dapat
16:53.4
pagganyan kasi,
16:55.2
bigyan mo ng graceful exit,
16:57.3
yung mga yan, para hindi masira
16:59.2
yung population center
17:00.6
na winasak mo
17:02.8
using your air force,
17:05.7
etc.
17:06.7
Talagang winasak mo yung
17:09.4
Marawi, the beautiful city of Marawi.
17:11.6
Usually yan, pipigyan mo sila
17:13.6
ng daan para tumakas.
17:15.6
Tapos tsaka mo na sila durugin
17:17.3
at tsaka habulin. Mamamonitor mo
17:19.4
naman eh. Hindi ako
17:20.8
military expert, pero
17:22.7
from my limited
17:24.3
perspective,
17:27.3
ay yun dapat ang ginawa
17:29.0
para lumayo sila sa population center.
17:32.0
Para lumayo sila sa city.
17:33.9
At I'm almost sure gagawin nila yan.
17:35.9
Dahil gusto nilang tumakas eh.
17:37.6
Ayaw nilang makulong sa isang lugar.
17:39.9
No? Itong mga
17:40.9
terrorists, itong mga guerillas na ito.
17:43.6
Pero hindi ginawa eh. Parang
17:45.2
kinulong eh. Kinulong tapos
17:47.4
dinurug. Eh syempre, kasama
17:49.3
sa nadurog, parang sa
17:51.3
Gaza, kasama sa nadurog
17:53.3
yung population.
17:54.0
No? Yung mga buildings,
17:56.3
yung mga
17:57.3
magagandang lugar sa Marawi.
17:59.1
At ikatlo, yung
18:00.9
reconstruction, lalong
18:03.2
gumulo. No? Lalong gumulo.
18:05.8
Halimbawa, may kausap ko
18:07.6
dati dyan yung mga kaibigan ko na
18:09.4
gumagawa ng water system
18:11.4
para dyan sa reconstruction.
18:13.8
Hindi sila makadaan
18:15.5
dahil may mga problema sa right of way.
18:18.5
Pero mo tubig ah,
18:19.4
very basic. Hindi nila
18:21.4
ma-implement dahil may right of way
18:23.4
problems. Tapos yung kinuwang
18:25.3
Chinese company, blacklisted
18:27.3
na, wala pang pera.
18:29.5
Di ba? Kaya na-delay ng
18:31.2
ilang taon. Yung
18:32.8
reconstruction, dapat nalaman yan from the start eh.
18:36.3
Ba't hindi mo nalaman na
18:37.4
blacklisted itong company na ito?
18:39.3
Itong Chinese company na ito?
18:41.3
Dahil may kumausap ba sa'yo
18:42.7
na Chinese? Na ito ay okay?
18:45.4
Ito ay napakagaling?
18:47.4
Etcetera.
18:48.5
Nakausap ko yung mga leaders dyan sa Marawi.
18:51.7
Nakausap ko yung mga leaders sa Marawi.
18:53.3
Na-insulto din sila na bakit
18:54.7
hindi kami yung kinakausap nyo? Parang
18:56.8
completely excluded daw yung
18:58.3
local structures.
18:59.9
Ilang dodgy na Chinese company ang pinasok.
19:02.8
Walang consultation whatsoever
19:04.4
dun sa komunidad mismo.
19:06.3
Siudad nila yan.
19:07.9
Bastos yung nangyari. Sobrang undemocratic.
19:11.0
Tablay talaga.
19:12.1
Richard, nakikita natin dito,
19:14.2
tatlong epic fail eh.
19:17.0
Yung before the attack,
19:18.6
yung epic fail na hindi mo na
19:20.5
nalaman,
19:23.4
a failure of intelligence,
19:24.6
hindi mo na nip in the bag,
19:26.8
hindi mo na na,
19:28.5
na pan sila, na diver, na, na, na, na,
19:31.8
na, na, na, nadurog?
19:33.3
At ikalawa, yung mismong
19:34.9
gera. No?
19:36.7
Na winasak mo ang isang magandang lunsod.
19:39.7
Ano yung mga,
19:41.0
mga tactical failures mo dyan?
19:44.1
At ikatlo,
19:45.0
yung reconstruction.
19:46.5
Na very basic, very avoidable,
19:49.6
yung mga pagkakamali.
19:51.2
No? So tatlong epic
19:52.8
fail yung nangyari.
19:54.2
Diba?
19:55.5
Kaya,
19:56.1
tapos walang
19:57.4
nag-admit nitong failure?
20:01.3
Parang all's well?
20:03.7
All's well?
20:05.6
Yun yung
20:05.9
wala man lang circumspection.
20:08.6
Uy, nakamali kami rito.
20:10.3
Uy, pasensya na. Nakamali rito.
20:12.5
Aayusin namin, etc.
20:14.2
Ba't walang ganong klaseng summation?
20:16.6
Ba't walang ganong pag-amin?
20:18.4
Kaya hanggang ngayon, problematic ang Marawi.
20:21.6
Diba?
20:22.9
Yun yung nakakagalit
20:24.5
dito sa Marawi na ito.
20:26.1
Thank you very much for that
20:29.8
Secretary Ronald Diaz. I really
20:32.1
appreciate it. I think these two topics
20:34.1
were very related. Communist insurgency
20:35.8
at saka itong problema ng
20:37.5
terorismo, religious extremism, and other.
20:39.9
I like the fact that we don't make it
20:41.8
the typical racist,
20:43.5
Islamophobic civilization. This is
20:45.7
a national security issue.
20:47.6
Mukhang may foreign element pang-involve
20:49.6
na hindi pang-Pinoy.
20:50.6
I organize in
20:53.8
Basilan. I organize in Sulu.
20:56.1
I organize in Maguindanao.
20:58.2
South Cotabato.
20:59.8
Galako yan lugar na yan.
21:02.0
Hindi lang maganda yung lugar.
21:03.9
Maganda yung mga tao.
21:05.9
I can easily say this is the richest
21:08.1
part of the country. Pero dito
21:10.2
mo makikita yung mga poorest communities,
21:12.6
poorest people. Diba?
21:14.3
So, ang laki ng possibility
21:16.1
at hindi na gagamit.
21:17.8
Because of failure of
21:19.6
successive governments. Diba?
21:21.8
Including mine.
21:24.4
Pero,
21:26.1
some governments are
21:28.2
more of a failure
21:30.4
than others.
21:31.7
At tingin ko, itong
21:34.0
previous government ay talagang
21:36.8
min-nest up
21:38.6
yung Marawi,
21:41.0
yung Mindanao, na nakakapagtaka.
21:44.3
Dahil,
21:44.7
galing Mindanao yung presidente.
21:47.5
Diba? Galing Mindanao.
21:48.7
Bakit nangyari pa yung mga
21:50.5
ganyang klaseng pangyayari?
21:54.4
Thank you very much. Yes, on that,
21:56.1
on that note, well, some of you may have seen
21:58.1
my article today, the trial of Rodrigo
22:00.1
Duterte, I mean, building on the
22:02.2
trial of Henry Kissinger.
22:04.9
Imagine if there's
22:06.2
ever a trial. I mean, apparently
22:08.3
he didn't show up dun sa subpoenaed court niya.
22:10.1
But if there are court cases and all,
22:12.3
you know, one of the things that we have to go back to is
22:14.0
anong track record niya dito sa Mindanao at
22:15.8
reconstruction of Marawi? And if he was such a
22:18.1
good leader and the favorite son of Mindanao,
22:20.5
bakit ganyan yung situation ngayon? Diba?
22:22.6
Dapat nun palang he got rid
22:24.1
of this problem. At saka yung root causes ng terror.
22:26.1
Thank you very much, Secretary Renald Llamas.
22:29.3
Thank you, Big R.